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#14 - anon (12/19/2015) [-]
But calling her retarded would not be misusing the word. Because she is.
Why do people label words as offensive. Only a retard would find the word retarded offensive.

retarded
[ri-tahr-did]
characterized by a slowness or limitation in intellectual understanding and awareness, emotional development, academic progress, etc.
#133 to #14 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
Well, when you use the word negatively towards someone who isn't retarded it creates a new meaning that is offensive.
User avatar #119 to #14 - TheBigGummyBear (12/20/2015) [-]
It's just one of those things man, where one word refers to a group of individuals that'd be considered offensive, but to another group it isn't a big deal because it has no meaning. Allow me to explain;

It's considered offensive to call an actual retarded person a retard, call an ordinary person a retard and it's up to them whether they take offense or not, but shouldn't take it personally because they're not actually a retard.

It's considered offensive to call a fat person fat, but if you call some skinny guy eating a plate full of burgers and chips then they'd be called fat, but they shouldn't find it offensive because obviously they're not fat in the literal sense.

It's considered to call a gay person a faggot (which essentially means over the top, flamboyent homo sexual), but if you call a straight person a faggot for acting like a flamboyent homo sexual or wearing gay clothes then it shouldn't or wouldn't be offensive to them. However, again they shouldn't take it personally because they're not apart of the group of individuals whom that word actually has an effect on.

Can't think of anymore examples, but that's essentially how it works. These words are only offensive if they're actually true about the person.
User avatar #102 to #14 - iexs (12/20/2015) [-]
It wouldn't be misusing it, but you'd still be an asshole.

whoever made their kid hold this sign is retarded tho
User avatar #88 to #14 - suchusername (12/20/2015) [-]
'only a retard would find the word retarded offensive'

ayyyy lmao so only a black person would find the word ****** offensive? That logic maaaaaaaaan.
User avatar #78 to #14 - nickelakon (12/20/2015) [-]
Actually retards tend to be the least offended by it
#168 to #78 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
I mean, most retards are too retarded to be offended or upset by many things that should do so, that alone doesn't give us a free pass to do something that would otherwise be wrong.
User avatar #113 to #78 - quoterox (12/20/2015) [-]
unless, of course, they're told to be offended by some asshat pretending to be an authority on things that don't affect them.
User avatar #63 to #14 - teedoubler (12/20/2015) [-]
Really stupid that vorigan is getting thumbed down here.

That's how basically every cuss word came into existence in the first place. They start as normal words and become derogatory because of how they get used. Yes, 'bitch' can be a female dog and 'faggot' can be a pile of sticks, but those words are no longer appropriate for polite company because of how they have been used for decades.

You can't have it both ways. You can't call that guy you hate 'retarded,' that bad Russian teammate on your favorite video game 'retarded,' and that driver who cut you off 'retarded,' with clear intention to insult and demean all three people... And then also use 'retarded' five minutes later to describe a person with mental disability and expect nobody to take it as a demeaning insult. Pick one and stick with it.

Now, am I saying you shouldn't use it freely on a place like FJ? **** no. As I said, these words aren't appropriate for polite company. This isn't polite company, this is a mature (in humor, not necessarily demeanor) internet forum. Call me a ******* retard to your heart's content if you feel the need to insult me.
#167 to #63 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
******* retard
User avatar #62 to #14 - neokun (12/20/2015) [-]
I think its funny to call them retards when used humorously rather than to be mean. But to actually think its socially acceptable to say it TO them makes you a ******* idiot, no sorry, it makes you retarded.
#54 to #14 - imgood (12/20/2015) [-]
For all we know she could not be though.
Not every person with down syndrome is retarded, though it is a common occurrence.
Beyond that, " ****** " is a word to describe a black person, but you don't see people calling every black person on the street a " ****** " even though it is correct usage
User avatar #145 to #54 - dakkenly (12/20/2015) [-]
Please name one person with downs syndrome that is not retarded in any way. No slowing of any learning process at all. Good luck
User avatar #169 to #145 - teedoubler (12/20/2015) [-]
"Slowing of any learning process at all" is not the definition of retarded in the first place. Otherwise you're saying that literally everybody in the bottom 50% is retarded, and that's not how it works. Medically, the definition is generally considered to be an IQ of 70 or below. Specifically, the American Psychiatric Association guideline states: "Mild is defined as an IQ level of 50-55 to approximately 70. Moderate is an IQ level of 35-40 to 50-55. Severe is an IQ level of 20-25 to 35- 40."

But since all I have to do is name one person, how about a successful actor? That good enough for you? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Burke_ (actor)

Yes, while mental retardation with downs is extremely common, there are DEFINITELY people with downs who are not retarded. I've got a girl with downs in my 200-level statistics course and she's actually doing better than about half the class. Hope you feel like as much of an ass as you look like right now.
User avatar #172 to #169 - dakkenly (12/20/2015) [-]
Retardation includes physical development, which is also definitive of down's syndrome.
#175 to #172 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
Retardation does not at all include physical development. The term SPECIFICALLY refers to mental development, and IS strictly defined in APA guidelines.

Please don't just spread BS without any proper knowledge on the topic, and don't get upset with people for correcting you if you intend to do so.
User avatar #176 to #175 - dakkenly (12/22/2015) [-]
Pretty sure that it is specified by "mental retardation" psychomotor retardation "can cause a visible slowing of physical and emotional reactions, including speech and affect."

But sure, continue about how I'm just mad, and keep making what I say more specific than it actually is. I was trying to be general
User avatar #174 to #172 - teedoubler (12/20/2015) [-]
Medically, no it doesn't. Retardation specifically refers to intellectual levels. And down's doesn't actually do much to your physical development in all cases either. Frankly it sounds like you have no idea what down's syndrome actually is.
User avatar #139 to #54 - fwp (12/20/2015) [-]
**** you bitch.
#47 to #14 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
Because there are actual descriptions for their disabilities besides retarded? It's labeling a bunch of people under an umbrella term and half the time it's not even the right description, that's exactly why.
User avatar #112 to #47 - stealingbikes (12/20/2015) [-]
Just like male and female, right anon?!

Gotta make sure you use the correct pronouns, don't ya anon?!

Don't wanna use overly generalized terms, don't we anon?!

STFU anon.
#170 to #112 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
Different anon... How is that relevant is any way?

Jesus, apparently the formula for green thumbs on FJ is to relate anything you disagree with to feminism no matter how little your analogy makes any sense at all.

Male and female are correct because damn near everybody IS male or female and a bunch of idiots on tumblr think that we need specials nowflake identities for our gender as if our physical sex isn't good enough to use as a descriptor.

Tumblrites are trying to change the definition of male and female. Retarded already DOES have a definition, and many people misuse the word to begin with. Whether you're okay with the word retarded or not, your analogy makes zero sense.
User avatar #97 to #47 - captchakid ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]
Thats like saying the word handicapped is offensive. Im not gonna call you your specific medical term.
User avatar #92 to #47 - twiceasfun ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]
You're retarded
User avatar #52 to #47 - magicalsteve (12/20/2015) [-]
So like refering to caucasian people as "white" when they're actually
german
french
irish
british
russian american
canadian etc?
#171 to #52 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
Actually, in this case, it would be like me referring to that german dude as Mexican.

I'd just be outright wrong. Many people use retarded as a blanket term any time they see someone with a mental disability, but there are many mental disabilities that do not actually make you retarded. Retarded actually specifically refers to having an IQ below 70. For example, I have a friend with tourettes who gets called retarded often, yet he is actually not mentally deficient at all, he simply has a very bad twitch and a verbal tic. His IQ is actually just fine and he does great in school.

Whether you agree with the word retarded being used or not, your analogy is just wrong. Anon 1 was referring to people being called retarded when they are not, your analogy is white people being called white when they are in fact white.
#117 to #52 - bann (12/20/2015) [-]
I mean, when you factor in the demeaning qualities to the word retarded it makes sense why they'd want to steer away from it

Kinda like calling someone a negro, it's an outdated term and it has a pretty negative connotation to it. It's not incorrect to call someone a retard/negro, but you're packing some pretty heavy implications with it.
User avatar #100 to #52 - zetsuboukamina (12/20/2015) [-]
>Germany
>France
> Britain
>white

Maybe now but not in five years
#162 to #100 - nutellakeks (12/20/2015) [-]
even if you use a more defined map, like this they are still caucasian
(fyi everything that is blue is caucasian)

User avatar #166 to #162 - timoyr (12/20/2015) [-]
Finland is not caucasian? Wut.
#161 to #100 - nutellakeks (12/20/2015) [-]
everything that is green is caucasian....
so it will stay caucasian and caucasian and white are not interchangeable
User avatar #101 to #100 - magicalsteve (12/20/2015) [-]
the exact reason i didn't include sweden lol
User avatar #67 to #52 - opticmonkey (12/20/2015) [-]
including canadians and american's as though we aren't just a *********** of all the other ones
User avatar #30 to #14 - vorigan (12/19/2015) [-]
Because it's become a derogatory term? It's the same reasoning as to why words such as "bitch", "bastard", and "cunt" are offensive - sure if you're using them in their proper ways it's technically correct, but because the usage of these words have become so bastardised over the years, they've become offensive.

Don't use "retard" as an insult and expect to get away with calling a retarded person "retarded". That's retarded.
User avatar #21 to #14 - magicalsteve (12/19/2015) [-]
It's offensive when used as an insult but not when describing an actual retard.
I work with retards at school and they call eachother retarded all the time
#51 to #21 - imgood (12/20/2015) [-]
Well then you should probably know that "retarded" and "special needs" aren't the same thing. Retarded is a class of extremely low IQ and the "special needs" have a mental disorder. Though often the 2 overlap, not every special needs child is retarded and not every person who is retarded has a mental disorder.

On of my pet peeves
User avatar #53 to #51 - magicalsteve (12/20/2015) [-]
yeah I know, I'm just saying the retards call eachother retards.
I also help the dyslexic kids and they're obviously not retarded lol
User avatar #22 to #21 - magicalsteve (12/19/2015) [-]
side note: I only signed up to work with the special needs class honestly in the hopes that I would get some cool greentext stories
But apparently my retards aren't retarded enough to get stories out of
#64 to #22 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
That's because pretty much every greentext story comes from /b/, and did you forget the big banner at the top of /b/?

"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

Maybe you're the retard.
#45 to #22 - kiershar (12/20/2015) [-]
that´s some cold ****
even though its probably bait
User avatar #48 to #45 - magicalsteve (12/20/2015) [-]
not bait. The stories were kinda more of a bonus i guess. But it's my senior year and I only do it for 1 semester so i figured why not?
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