Title. lets enjoy the fact the person who posted this named himself unsaturated mangravy. I think that if they make : certian illegal, they should matte men des
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lets enjoy the fact the person who posted this named himself unsaturated mangravy

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I think that if they make : certian illegal, they should matte men deserting
women who they got pregnant illegal as well. Because if a woman can' t
bani: out at a pregnancy a man shouldn' t be able to either.
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#17 - chexlemeneux (01/18/2014) [+] (102 replies)
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But what about the opposite?    
Let's say a young lady gets pregnant and she doesn't want to have the baby, but the father does. She can get an abortion without a problem and the man has not legal standing to say otherwise.    
But on the flip side (as we all know), if she gets pregnant and wants to keep it and he doesn't he is still "responsible for his choices" and must pay child support for the next 20 years even though he wasn't ready to be a father.    
In my opinion, if a woman can get an abortion without the fathers consent, then a father should be allowed to opt-out of being a dad. In doing so, he wouldn't be responsible for child support and other responsibilities, but he would also be barred (for life) from being a part of that child's life. He wouldn't be allowed any visitation or legal standing as a father (i.e. taxes, student loans, ect.) without the mother's written consent.
But what about the opposite?
Let's say a young lady gets pregnant and she doesn't want to have the baby, but the father does. She can get an abortion without a problem and the man has not legal standing to say otherwise.
But on the flip side (as we all know), if she gets pregnant and wants to keep it and he doesn't he is still "responsible for his choices" and must pay child support for the next 20 years even though he wasn't ready to be a father.
In my opinion, if a woman can get an abortion without the fathers consent, then a father should be allowed to opt-out of being a dad. In doing so, he wouldn't be responsible for child support and other responsibilities, but he would also be barred (for life) from being a part of that child's life. He wouldn't be allowed any visitation or legal standing as a father (i.e. taxes, student loans, ect.) without the mother's written consent.
User avatar #2 - thechosentroll (01/17/2014) [+] (24 replies)
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Technically they're forced to pay child support and spend time with it. The only exception are fathers who literally run the **** away and can't be tracked down.
User avatar #37 - levelninetynine (01/18/2014) [-]
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I thank the majority for making this more of a discussion than an argument. Good on ya for helping each other understand our rights(as confusing as they seem to be)in relationships.
User avatar #1 - pikapimp (01/17/2014) [+] (7 replies)
it already is illegal, try not paying your child support
#94 - Blasphemer (01/18/2014) [+] (31 replies)
I don't get it, abortion shouldn't, forgive me, MUST NOT, ever become illegal...   
   
Mistakes happen, RAPE happens. No one wants to be forced to raise the child they have no time, ability or even love for. And no child deserves to be raised by incompetent idiot or by unloving parent.
I don't get it, abortion shouldn't, forgive me, MUST NOT, ever become illegal...

Mistakes happen, RAPE happens. No one wants to be forced to raise the child they have no time, ability or even love for. And no child deserves to be raised by incompetent idiot or by unloving parent.
#3 - taurusguy (01/17/2014) [+] (5 replies)
If you made abortion illegal the amount of "accidental" hits to the stomach would skyrocket.
#13 - sirbutterballs (01/18/2014) [-]
I like this idea.   
Half of it because it seems (morally) right   
Half because it'd be fun to see all this 						****					 play out IRL    
 It's pretty common for people to get pregnant in mah high school.
I like this idea.
Half of it because it seems (morally) right
Half because it'd be fun to see all this **** play out IRL
It's pretty common for people to get pregnant in mah high school.
User avatar #31 - eatherbreather (01/18/2014) [-]
All the considered and informed arguments in the comments are valid. No one has yet advocated there be more anal and blowjobs to help avoid this mess in the first place.
#30 - lyiat (01/18/2014) [+] (1 reply)
It's... already.... illegal......
It's... already.... illegal......
#9 - klutzyspy ONLINE (01/17/2014) [+] (4 replies)
so by the same logic:
if abortion is legal, men should have no responsibilities if they choose not to be the father. Even without having to kill the unborn child.
#15 to #14 - klutzyspy ONLINE (01/18/2014) [-]
yes cus the problem is that men dont get any choices except "dont stick your dick in anything"...

pic related
#71 - Greevon (01/18/2014) [+] (2 replies)
I think both should have an equal say over the fate of the would-be child. If the man wants the child, but the woman doesn't, then the pregnancy can be carried to a point in which it can be transferred to a viable surrogate (of course, not all men can find a surrogate, but at least I'm trying to come up with a solution here)   
but the woman would be exempt of child care payments, just as the man should be exempt from it if he decides that he doesn't want the child, but the woman carries it anyway.   
Maybe we should treat it less as "A MAN" and "A WOMAN" having a dispute over a child and think of it as "TWO PEOPLE" who have a disagreement over something that is both equally there own.
I think both should have an equal say over the fate of the would-be child. If the man wants the child, but the woman doesn't, then the pregnancy can be carried to a point in which it can be transferred to a viable surrogate (of course, not all men can find a surrogate, but at least I'm trying to come up with a solution here)
but the woman would be exempt of child care payments, just as the man should be exempt from it if he decides that he doesn't want the child, but the woman carries it anyway.
Maybe we should treat it less as "A MAN" and "A WOMAN" having a dispute over a child and think of it as "TWO PEOPLE" who have a disagreement over something that is both equally there own.
User avatar #49 - timmywankenobi ONLINE (01/18/2014) [+] (4 replies)
Women have all the reproductive rights they can use any of literally 100 different forms/brands/methods of conception, they alone decide to keep the child or abort it and they can still choose to abandon the baby at no cost any time after it is born no questions asked "no money required ever" and the woman can decide to give the child to a relative if she wants or the father and she will never be required to pay child support by the government if she doesn't want to in fact 98% of non custodial mothers do not pay any child support at ******* all. Legally she doesn't even have to tell the father about the child's existence if she doesn't want to. The only choice the man get is wear a condom or get a vasectomy and never have kids.
User avatar #41 - tittylovin (01/18/2014) [-]
I think that if women choose to keep the baby when the father doesn't want it, he should be exempt from having to pay child support.
User avatar #89 - heartlessrobot (01/18/2014) [-]
That's punishing the guy twice. Girl pokes holes in condom to get knocked up, he's ******* stuck with the little **** unless he falcon punches her in the stomach.
#7 - zantores ONLINE (01/17/2014) [-]
Yeah, but there's the 'not mine' claim... in theory a baby can be any guy's, but if it comes out the girl damn sure its hers.

Hows mandatory paternity testing? Solves that right quick and keeps cheaters honest too
#243 - dasbrot ONLINE (01/18/2014) [-]
MFW comment section.
#114 - sedativechunk (01/18/2014) [+] (10 replies)
**sedativechunk rolls 9** Magic conch, will I ever get a bitch pregnant?
#122 to #114 - zorach (01/18/2014) [-]
YFW
YFW
#102 - flufflepuff (01/18/2014) [+] (1 reply)
i just want women to pay for their own ******* abortion.

"It's my body!"

yeah? well it should be your ******* bill, too.
User avatar #46 - delphine (01/18/2014) [+] (7 replies)
OOOOR we could promote the **** out of contraceptives and offer free birth control to anyone, and educate people on how to use them effectively, specially teach about reasons that can render the BCP to be ineffective (the reason I happened was because my mother went on antibiotics and didn't realize it negated her pill) so there are fewer unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
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