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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - teranin
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Inb4 cognitive dissonance
Inb4 cognitive dissonance
User avatar #56 to #1 - aerosol
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What does that mean?
User avatar #57 to #56 - faimbot
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being able to hold two contradictory beliefs at the same time.
User avatar #60 to #57 - nightmareschild
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I prefer double think.
#2 to #1 - faimbot
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"All i'm saying is, when God does it, it isn't bad."

MFW
#13 to #2 - farnam
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Who says this? Obiously there wasn't a huge ark that kept all species inside. The thing was teaching that people that act bad, will have a bad future, call it karma or whatever.
Who says this? Obiously there wasn't a huge ark that kept all species inside. The thing was teaching that people that act bad, will have a bad future, call it karma or whatever.
User avatar #94 to #13 - thepandaking
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and then the dog looks worried for him. Man's best friend right there.
User avatar #170 to #13 - nigeltheoutlaw
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This was considered fact for most of history, and many people still consider it fact. In my opinion, all of the Bible should be taken figuratively as stories on how to behave, but people always end up taking things seriously until it becomes so obvious that they're false, then "nuh uh they were figurative all along!".
#105 to #13 - jokesexplain
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User avatar #45 to #2 - KINGOFTHESTARS
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thats actually true.

I used to say "well GOD solves all his probs with violence"
but there was a verse that basically said "GOD can do violent stuff but people cant because it isnt our job to do it" or something like that.

its not the "vengance is Mine" one
#128 to #2 - anon id: b2fde23e
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You're talking about the dude that literally created the universe because "**** it, why the hell not". He can do whatever the hell he wants and call it righteous, and no seriously religious person would question him (lest he fry their ass).
#8 to #2 - anon id: ba604150
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The issue i see with this reasoning is if an omnipotent God exists then the morale rules we are held to would be irrelevant to God. As an all powerful being he would define morality, not be subject to it.
User avatar #61 to #8 - YllekNayr
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So hypocrisy, basically.
#108 to #61 - anon id: a373053e
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when you're 3 years old, are you allowed do everything your dad does? doesn't that make him a hypocrite if he sets laws for you that he doesn't have follow?
User avatar #109 to #108 - crimsonsunshine
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pretty sure a parent isn't going to tell you not to murder than stab your cousin. i understand the concept it is just flawed.
#113 to #109 - anon id: a373053e
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the thing is though, God always gave the people chances to come back. He waited patiently, but if the people are gonna keep on doing the same thing then He should be able to do whatever He wants. I mean, if we're made out of dust by Him, then we'd technically be His property.
User avatar #126 to #113 - crimsonsunshine
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but from the begging of the bible he puts man in situations where he KNOWS they will do evil.
User avatar #138 to #113 - admiralen
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if hes omnipotent he would know what would happen, and thus hes just doing it to kill em off
#39 - dyslexicspiderman
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One of the major things that really bothers me about the bible is the story of Adam and Eve. So God being all powerful and all knowing creates a situation in which he KNOWS that the humans will fail and will be kicked out of paradise. He allows for Satan to be there which is the main reason humans are banished. It seems like the entire story is an excuse to punish humans for eternity.
#107 to #39 - anon id: a373053e
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Biblical studies major here. Genesis in its original language has a lot of poetic elements (and who doesn't love to take poetry... literally...?) and was written by at least 2 different authors. There are some plot holes that make it obvious that people weren't supposed to take it literally. And consider that in the story, pretty much every single human being except for Noah were wicked. Also, it was not a world-wide flood, but similar accounts of a flood involving an ark have been found from other Ancient Near Eastern civilizations, so there may have been a devastating flood around that area that killed many. Food for thought?
#174 to #107 - anon id: 8fef8dcf
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Well what's the point following the book then? Who can say what parts are to take literally and what not.

How about the story of Job. The omnipotent knew he wouldn't waver, but still that sadistic bastard made the poor guy suffer.
#114 to #39 - anon id: a373053e
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fun question: where in the bible does it say that humans burn for all eternity? just says they'll be thrown into an everlasting lake of fire.. but that doesn't make them fireproof.
User avatar #157 to #39 - oceanfrank
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It probably didn't go down exactly like that. I mean hell, what did Moses know other than what God told him and what he did? God could have lied to him to bring into action a different plan than what is intended in the bible. Bro we just dont know, it's hard to apply our logic to that of a God/god(s)
User avatar #182 to #39 - theshadowed
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Nah the serpent kinda got corrupted by Satan God didn't exactly want that **** there
#190 to #182 - dyslexicspiderman
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But... He's suppose to be all powerful and all knowing. The serpent was there because God allowed it/wanted it to be. It was part of his plan in the same way Judas was.
User avatar #204 to #190 - theshadowed
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He may be all powerful and all knowing, but because he allows people to have free will, so many events (including the snake and Judas) were beyond his control
#207 to #204 - dyslexicspiderman
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Nothing is beyond his control. That would imply that he is not all powerful. The writers designed a situation in which humans would fail because they needed an explanation for why humans are suffering. "The original sin" gives them this yet it's so full of contradictions. As a student working on my philosophy masters I have discussed free will at length. This is by no definition an example of free will.
User avatar #49 to #39 - helenwheels
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Without adversity there is no story.
And without a story what is the point of creating?

Seriously, would you rather read about a man and a woman who made the one mistake they knew they couldn't make. Riddled with symbolism and insight into human psychology.

Or the man in the woman who where always happy and died happy and now their children are happy because there perfect and smart. You'd put that book down in an instant.
#235 to #49 - anon id: 3c13a7f0
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so we are just a show for god
User avatar #237 to #235 - helenwheels
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Why does everyone think that's so horrible?

God might not even be aware that we are aware, he's just a creator, trying to gain insight and entertainment from his story. This doesn't mean the christian way of thinking is right or wrong. One thing they do have wrong is that god is omnipotent.
#104 to #49 - anon id: 54c2eb57
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One tiny minor detail though. You are talking about a story, the bible is supposed to be the true word of the Christian God. Its main purpose isn't to be readable, but to guide Christians and tell them what they should believe the truth is.
User avatar #236 to #104 - helenwheels
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Well, why would you create something with out meaning.
Thing's that are easy in life have no meaning.
User avatar #147 to #39 - gummybearwarrior
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the tree was a test
simply put, Whats the point of being loved and worshiped if they have no choice. They had to earn paradise by following that one simple rule, not turning their back to that simple rule.
User avatar #172 to #147 - nigeltheoutlaw
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Also, god knows all, so he knew Adam and Eve would fail before he even created them, yet he did anyways. It's not a test if you know the conclusion before it begins.
User avatar #171 to #147 - nigeltheoutlaw
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What's the point of being loved and worshipped if you're an omnipotent, all knowing, omnipresent being? You'd think god would be above something as petty as a need for validation.
User avatar #241 to #171 - validation
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You called?
User avatar #129 to #39 - hellomynameisbill
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It's like he's just being reverse psychological by putting making the fruit so attainable

If Man Obeyed God
User avatar #44 to #39 - bothemastaofall
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There' also kind of a plothole too.
>Need to eat apple to obtain critical thinking
>Used critical thinking to weigh arguments of serpent and Adam to decide to eat the apple

Also Satan isn't present in the garden. That character is known only as "the serpent"
User avatar #62 to #39 - YllekNayr
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It's almost like it was completely fabricated.
#10 - felixjarl
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This is going to be interesting to watch.
#5 - anon id: c711e03d
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Except the people were killed because they were wicked and beyond help or saving. (according to the bible anyways) But yeah I guess it's okay for you to have an abortion using this logic if you're an omnipotent, all knowing being and the reason for aborting was because you knew for a fact that the fetus would grow to be wicked.
User avatar #23 to #5 - baldraun
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Dude the first covenant is literally god saying "bro I ****** up and killed a bunch of innocent people - I promise not to do that again."
#35 to #23 - dyslexicspiderman
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How can God **** up if he is all-knowing and has the power to know exactly what is going to happen?
User avatar #36 to #35 - baldraun
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Don't ask me. I make no apologies for the wicked.
#115 to #36 - anon id: a373053e
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then don't say **** you can't back up
#136 to #115 - votekitty
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How the **** can you back up Religion in general anyway, if you had good solid proof everybody would be one religion.
#46 to #23 - anon id: 6daefd7e
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He didn't say he wouldn't do it again, he just said he wouldn't do it with water.
#93 to #5 - Kanoah
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You know what, honestly, I doubt the people of the time were any more wicked than we've been with our multiple genocides, world wars, and nuclear weapons, and nothing had happened, so I honestly think that if God killed the Earth's population for crimes that we've clearly exceeded, abortions mentioned here are kind of on the small end of the scale.
User avatar #7 to #5 - tittylovin
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Wait, so you ACTUALLY believe that all the unborn children at the time just before the flood were wicked and beyond saving?
User avatar #52 to #7 - dalokan
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Original sin man, read into it
User avatar #177 to #52 - nigeltheoutlaw
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Gotta kill them evil babies, amirite?
User avatar #11 to #7 - economic [OP]
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They were all baby Hitlers or being raised by cunts to be even worse cunts.
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#140 - gmacdotcom
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User avatar #124 - tonkkax
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