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emperorwatergate (11/16/2015) [-] 
There is an In-Universe theory that The Joker is actually faking his Insanity in order to avoid the Death Penalty. Then again, it was Harley Quinn who came up with this theory, so make of that what you will.
The Joker actually does have two Superpowers: He is immune to all known poisons and toxins, and all of his bodily fluids are highly toxic. Mosquitoes die when they drink his blood.
It has been revealed that the New 52 Joker is "immortal" because he has a personal supply of Dionesium, a chemical found in the Lazarus Pits.
The Post-Crisis Joker's real name has been confirmed to start with "Ja".
In The New 52, when Batman learned The Joker's real name, he reacted with horror and disbelief, suggesting that he has some kind of personal connection to Batman.
The Joker actually does have two Superpowers: He is immune to all known poisons and toxins, and all of his bodily fluids are highly toxic. Mosquitoes die when they drink his blood.
It has been revealed that the New 52 Joker is "immortal" because he has a personal supply of Dionesium, a chemical found in the Lazarus Pits.
The Post-Crisis Joker's real name has been confirmed to start with "Ja".
In The New 52, when Batman learned The Joker's real name, he reacted with horror and disbelief, suggesting that he has some kind of personal connection to Batman.
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elcreepo (11/17/2015) [-] So in the New 52 they're probably making the Joker actually be the Robin the joker allegedly killed
Setting up a plot where that Robin eventually broke down from the unsatisfying forms of nonlethal justice batman brings and decided to create his own justice as the joker
Or at the very least, faked his death.
Eh. I'd rather NOT have a detailed backstory to the joker.
Setting up a plot where that Robin eventually broke down from the unsatisfying forms of nonlethal justice batman brings and decided to create his own justice as the joker
Or at the very least, faked his death.
Eh. I'd rather NOT have a detailed backstory to the joker.
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theasexualgamer (11/17/2015) [-] I love that series, with the exception of the entire existence of new 52 Starfire.
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garymotherfingoak ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] "I don't know what this New 52 is, but it sounds disappointing."
but real talk I've been reluctant to look into it, especially after they turned Darkseid in JL:W into a 1 dimensional brute, is the reboot truly subpar or still good but just different
but real talk I've been reluctant to look into it, especially after they turned Darkseid in JL:W into a 1 dimensional brute, is the reboot truly subpar or still good but just different
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brackgrapple ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] New 52 could have been good if they had more than 6 writers who had any idea what they're doing
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hellomynameisbill (11/17/2015) [-] New 52 means that it's a DC comic published after 2012.
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emperorwatergate (11/17/2015) [-] My favorite New 52 writers are Geoff Johns, Scott Snyder, and Jeff Lemire.
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wimwam (11/17/2015) [-] Immune to all toxins and poisons? That's basically immunity in today's world. Got a bacterial or viral infection? Shove in as many antivirals and antibacterials as possible, since you don't have to worry about toxicity. Got cancer? Pump in enough chemotherapy to bring down an elephant.
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trojanhulc (11/17/2015) [-] well technically the chemo thing wouldnt work since the cancer cells would be his own and thus also immune to the chemo, but i agree with what your sayin
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sweetbutteryjesus (11/16/2015) [-] yeah but that's a reference to the actors that played him (jack nicholson and alan napier)
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painispleasure (11/16/2015) [-] you should've included Conrad Veidt, the original inspiration for that classic smile and look
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censius (11/17/2015) [-] His "motif" is using gag items, such as clattering teeth as explosives, a water squirting flower that actually squirts acid, and a gun that says "BANG" occasionally, and actually shoots bullets at other times.
His motive is not as cut and dry as trying to have Batman kill him. Sometimes he's characterized in that way, but not always in the latest run, Batman actually attempts to kill Joker along with himself in destructing cave. In that, Joker was begging for life. I really hated it. . Other times he's shown to simply be an Agent of Chaos, and other times he just wants to make himself laugh. He's also said that hes only ever wanted to make Batman laugh, and other times said he wanted Batman to admit that he's just as insane as the Joker himself.
Joker's insanity is not definite. Its not consistent with any disorder really. In one comic, its supposed that he is "super sane", a made-up comic book disorder stating that he perceives too much of the world, and has to create a new personality every day to adapt and cope with the world, showing why sometimes he's just a prankster, and other times he megamaniacal sadist.
There are many origin stories for him, but none are concrete. The most accepted theory, if any, is that he was a comedian named Jack Naper who was forced by some mob to steal from ACE Chemicals wearing the Red Hood suit that was worn alternatingly within the mob. He went insane after the acid bath that distorted him and made his wife disgusted with him.
And just so you know, Heath Ledger did technically kill himself, but not intentionally. He had accidentally overdosed on his prescription medicine.
His motive is not as cut and dry as trying to have Batman kill him. Sometimes he's characterized in that way, but not always in the latest run, Batman actually attempts to kill Joker along with himself in destructing cave. In that, Joker was begging for life. I really hated it. . Other times he's shown to simply be an Agent of Chaos, and other times he just wants to make himself laugh. He's also said that hes only ever wanted to make Batman laugh, and other times said he wanted Batman to admit that he's just as insane as the Joker himself.
Joker's insanity is not definite. Its not consistent with any disorder really. In one comic, its supposed that he is "super sane", a made-up comic book disorder stating that he perceives too much of the world, and has to create a new personality every day to adapt and cope with the world, showing why sometimes he's just a prankster, and other times he megamaniacal sadist.
There are many origin stories for him, but none are concrete. The most accepted theory, if any, is that he was a comedian named Jack Naper who was forced by some mob to steal from ACE Chemicals wearing the Red Hood suit that was worn alternatingly within the mob. He went insane after the acid bath that distorted him and made his wife disgusted with him.
And just so you know, Heath Ledger did technically kill himself, but not intentionally. He had accidentally overdosed on his prescription medicine.
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tkfourtwoone ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Actually, he started going insane when he found out that his pregnant wife died hit by a car or something.
Plunging in the chemical bath was just the straw that broke the camel's back
Plunging in the chemical bath was just the straw that broke the camel's back
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tkfourtwoone ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] That's what I recalled from "The Killing Joke", anyway
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tarabostes ONLINE (11/16/2015) [-] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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filledwithdetermin ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Yup, I agree.
Start using google ultron, emperorwatergate , it's not 2013 anymore
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Start using google ultron, emperorwatergate , it's not 2013 anymore
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methylgroup (11/17/2015) [-] Heath Ledger did not commit suicide. He accidentally overdosed on prescription medication. He was literally so devoted to the role of the joker that he suffered from depression, anxiety, and insomnia afterwards due to the mental strain of staying in character.
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kanedam ONLINE (11/16/2015) [-]
i never got that whole "evil lurks in everybody".
i dont get how killing the joker would prove that at all...
that kind of thinking and morale is just naive and dumb.
i dont get how killing the joker would prove that at all...
that kind of thinking and morale is just naive and dumb.
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kerfufflemachtwo (11/16/2015) [-] I don't think it's so much that he wants to prove that Batman has evil in him.
I think it's more that he knows that Batman has his own rigid rules, the big one being not to intentionally kill anybody. And he wants to push Batman as hard as he can so that Batman breaks that rule. To prove that Batman is like him. Willing to cross his own lines, willing to compromise who he is.
I think it's more that he knows that Batman has his own rigid rules, the big one being not to intentionally kill anybody. And he wants to push Batman as hard as he can so that Batman breaks that rule. To prove that Batman is like him. Willing to cross his own lines, willing to compromise who he is.
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kanedam ONLINE (11/16/2015) [-]
isnt it the other way round?
joker is the one not compromising, living his principles to the extreme. meaning that he and batman are similar because batman doesnt kill joker.
from another viewpoint: both are egocentric and not ready to sacrifice their believes. one because he enjoys it and doesnt have to, and the other... no clue why. batman willing to sacrifice innocent lifes again and again just to keep his own rule intact seems to me like something more egocentric than hero-like.
joker is the one not compromising, living his principles to the extreme. meaning that he and batman are similar because batman doesnt kill joker.
from another viewpoint: both are egocentric and not ready to sacrifice their believes. one because he enjoys it and doesnt have to, and the other... no clue why. batman willing to sacrifice innocent lifes again and again just to keep his own rule intact seems to me like something more egocentric than hero-like.
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kerfufflemachtwo (11/16/2015) [-] Well, we can probably assume that Joker had much more normal morals and stuff before the chemical accident. He often claims that that moment was when he saw the truth of the world and such.
And yeah, Batman is very egocentric. But he doesn't seem to see himself the way Joker does, and Joker probably thinks that if he can get Batman to kill him, then Batman will realize just how similar they are.
And Joker knows that if Batman were to kill anybody intentionally, it probably would be him, just because of everything he does.
And yeah, Batman is very egocentric. But he doesn't seem to see himself the way Joker does, and Joker probably thinks that if he can get Batman to kill him, then Batman will realize just how similar they are.
And Joker knows that if Batman were to kill anybody intentionally, it probably would be him, just because of everything he does.
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kerfufflemachtwo (11/16/2015) [-] Pretty much.
He wants to help people and stuff. That's fine. But, he isn't exactly taking the best path. And he either doesn't realize that, or doesn't care.
He wants to help people and stuff. That's fine. But, he isn't exactly taking the best path. And he either doesn't realize that, or doesn't care.
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kerfufflemachtwo (11/16/2015) [-] Because they were established back in the '30s and '40s, when that stuff was perfectly acceptable.
Which is part of the reason why I prefer Marvel to DC. Marvel seems to have a lot more characters that are more realistic to me. At least when it comes to their morals and stuff.
Not that I don't enjoy DC stuff. I just prefer Marvel.
Which is part of the reason why I prefer Marvel to DC. Marvel seems to have a lot more characters that are more realistic to me. At least when it comes to their morals and stuff.
Not that I don't enjoy DC stuff. I just prefer Marvel.
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emperorwatergate (11/17/2015) [-] I kinda like it when they explain that Golden Age still resonate in the Modern World.
For example, Captain America: The First Avenger. Steve doesn't want to hurt people, not even Nazis or HYDRA. But he can't just let them hurt innocent people. Steve does what he does not because of underlying Psychological issues, or severe childhood trauma. He's just a good guy.
Another example is Superman Versus The Elite. Both sides have good points: The Elite kill dangerous, incredibly powerful Supervillains like Atomic Skull because he's a Psychopath who kills people for no reason; And Superman points out that Heroes don't break the law and just kill whoever they want.
Another example (sort of) is Batman: Under The Red Hood. Red Hood points out that Gotham City would be much better off without The Joker, a man who has killed hundreds of people. Not The Penguin, Scarecrow, or Two-Face. Just him. Just this one monster of a person. Batman points out that he wants to kill The Joker, but Batman himself is not exactly a Mentally well person. He knows that if he kills The Joker, he'll kill more Supervillains, until eventually he'll become a murderous Supervillain.
For example, Captain America: The First Avenger. Steve doesn't want to hurt people, not even Nazis or HYDRA. But he can't just let them hurt innocent people. Steve does what he does not because of underlying Psychological issues, or severe childhood trauma. He's just a good guy.
Another example is Superman Versus The Elite. Both sides have good points: The Elite kill dangerous, incredibly powerful Supervillains like Atomic Skull because he's a Psychopath who kills people for no reason; And Superman points out that Heroes don't break the law and just kill whoever they want.
Another example (sort of) is Batman: Under The Red Hood. Red Hood points out that Gotham City would be much better off without The Joker, a man who has killed hundreds of people. Not The Penguin, Scarecrow, or Two-Face. Just him. Just this one monster of a person. Batman points out that he wants to kill The Joker, but Batman himself is not exactly a Mentally well person. He knows that if he kills The Joker, he'll kill more Supervillains, until eventually he'll become a murderous Supervillain.
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satchamo (11/17/2015) [-]
If I may chime in, I seem to remember Batman explaining that even though these people do horrific things, they aren't exactly in control of themselves either. Each villain he has put away, was once a regular person. Like Bruce used to be before his parents were killed. Something in this rotten world took their innocence in such away it twisted them into something they really weren't. Batman still sees them as people, not just monsters. He sees them as victims in a very limited way. He knows that if certain circumstances were different, these people wouldn't be the villains they are today. If you guys have never read The Killing Joke, you should look into it. It actually gives a bit of back story on Joker and why he decided to turn to crime in the first place.
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cheatman (11/17/2015) [-] The whole 'I don't kill because I'd become a psycho' idea is such ******** it hurts, even joker pointed it out to him. Though batman has never killed anyone intentionally, he has allowed villains and thugs to die without trying to help them. One instance is in the new 52, joker has taken over a train and batman is on top of it, fighting some thugs. One of them a gun pointed at batman and behind him a low bridge is coming up quick. Batman doesn't even say 'look out behind you', he just lets the dude get smacked by the bridge, only covering his face so the blood doesn't hit him. Despite that, time and time again, Batman has gone out of his way to SAVE joker anytime he accidentally loses his footing off o a building.
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eminemnmnms (11/17/2015) [-] They need a reason why Batman would even allow The Joker to exist after all the **** he's pulled. We all know he would be long dead in real life
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emperorwatergate (11/17/2015) [-] Batman believes that if he kills The Joker, an even more dangerous, competent Supervillain would take his place.
It's like a form of Natural Selection.
Batman's greatest enemy isn't The Joker, it's Gotham City.
It's like a form of Natural Selection.
Batman's greatest enemy isn't The Joker, it's Gotham City.
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DarKAng (11/16/2015) [-] I thought Penguin was Batmans first villain, and joker came in later but readers liked him more so they made him is Arch nemesis and primary villain.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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randaxkull (11/17/2015) [-]
It depends on which version you're referring to.
If you go back to the old TV show with Adam West, The Riddler was the villain in the first episode. Some people say that Doctor Death was Batman's first recurring villain. Catwoman and Clayface were in the comics as early as 1940, with Catwoman appearing in Batman #1 and Clayface being in Detective Comics #40.
The Joker was actually late to the party, but after several redesigns and a lot of character evolution, we got the "anti-Batman" we see today.
If you go back to the old TV show with Adam West, The Riddler was the villain in the first episode. Some people say that Doctor Death was Batman's first recurring villain. Catwoman and Clayface were in the comics as early as 1940, with Catwoman appearing in Batman #1 and Clayface being in Detective Comics #40.
The Joker was actually late to the party, but after several redesigns and a lot of character evolution, we got the "anti-Batman" we see today.
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emperorwatergate (11/17/2015) [-] The Joker was the latest in a long line of attempts of making an Archenemy for Batman (Professor Hugo Strange, The Mad Monk, etc.).
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angelious ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] no he wasnt...
joker was meant to be a one time thing. they didnt want to have someone as dangerous as joker hanging around too long since he would make batman look bad (as in, making him look inefficient as joker would always come back and start killing again)
but then fans started liking joker and boom. batman became inefficient.
joker was meant to be a one time thing. they didnt want to have someone as dangerous as joker hanging around too long since he would make batman look bad (as in, making him look inefficient as joker would always come back and start killing again)
but then fans started liking joker and boom. batman became inefficient.
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speedymcgee ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] The Joker is such a good villain. He's in my top 3 along with Deathstroke and Professor Zoom.
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speedymcgee ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] That's because they used to be the same thing. However, in the New 52, Reverse Flash is now Daniel West and Professor Zoom is just Eobard Thawne.
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speedymcgee ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Because he's ******* demented. He pretty much started as an obsessed fan of the Flash from the 25th century. However, after going back in time and pretending to be Flash, he started to grow a deep hatred for Barry. He pretty much devoted himself to tearing down the image of the Flash and even took it upon himself to become the cause of every single bad thing that happened in Barry's life. Plus his new design is neat and he was a badass in Flashpoint Paradox.
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speedymcgee ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Man this is super complicated but I'll try to summarize. He found a time capsule in the Flash museum from his time period that had the Flash's suit. The suit still had some speedforce energy in it, so he used his 25th century genius intellect to harness it's power. He had cosmetic surgery to make himself look like Barry Allen and ran back in time. He is responsible for the death of Barry's mom and pretty much any other bad experience that Barry had. The events of the Flashpoint paradox also kickstarted the new 52. So Barry going back in time actually restarted the entire timeline and created another prime universe. Before the new 52, the storyline for Professor Zoom was a lot more complicated, but now we only have a couple of issues that he appears in.
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gloriouschad ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Doesn't he exist outside of time because of Flashpoint?
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speedymcgee ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] I'm not even sure anymore. He appears in the new 52 Flash comics though. It's a good read if you like the Flash.
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speedymcgee ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] At first he wanted to BE the Flash, which is why he had cosmetic surgery to change his appearance to match Barry Allen. When he went back in time to try and take over Flash's life, Iris West (Barry's love interest) rejected him and he was later found out by Barry himself. Barry beat him and his obsession grew to pure hatred. Professor Zoom is basically a villain that just keeps haunting Barry. Everything he does is just to hurt the Flash in some way, no matter the cost. He was willing to destroy himself and the world just to see Flash burn. This kind of obsessive trait in him is something I find myself liking in a lot of characters, almost similar to the Joker with Batman. However, Professor Zoom takes it one step further by being a time traveling, manipulative, obsessed, salty asshole who also happens to have superspeed, the ability to steal memories, erasing people from existence, and can steal speedforce energy. which is god damn awesome.
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gloriouschad ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Professor Zoom, real name Eobard Thawne. Also went by the Reverse Flash. Enemy to the Flash, there's a lot of **** that's cool about the dude. He's a time traveler from the 25th Century. Personally not my favorite villain but he's on like the top 10 favorite.
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thegamegestapo (11/17/2015) [-] > Joker history
> Not multiple choice
Do you even Killing Joke?
> Not multiple choice
Do you even Killing Joke?
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sexypandas (11/17/2015) [-] Hey what do u think of my mask?
(Can't post videos on mobile I have a good one)
(Can't post videos on mobile I have a good one)
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mastadong (11/17/2015) [-] Am I the only one that would pay money to see Heath's journal during that month?
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anon (11/17/2015) [-] **anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** now I get to see your insanity take a catalyst and destroy itself
**anonymous rolled image** now I get to see your insanity take a catalyst and destroy itself
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grimfuck ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] The wording and order of facts is vastly reminiscent of a wiki page I read a while ago when I was learning about the DCuniverse.
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ghostninjaguy ONLINE (11/17/2015) [-] Joker's the living incarnation of insanity. The only reason he's still around is because he wants Batman to kill him
