lol Im actually not even attacking white people or defending india indians, im just sayin, its weird how you guys make fun of them for not poopin in toilets yet I've never seen a white guy wash his hands. Even after they leave the smelliest poo i've ever not wanted to smell, they casually walk out and shake other white guys hands and put their hands all over food in the store or put their hands all over the condiments in a resturant place and what not. And yes I spend over $1000 a month on booze, I am not a very hopeful model of the native american people.
Feels bad when a filthy rapist spic with an 80 IQ who can't speak english can get a job supporting a family of six, when I can't even work at McDonald's
Lemme put it this way. If an immigrant who doesn't even speak English as their first language is sooner hired at McDonald's than YOU- It means you are probably autistic or retarded.
mcdonalds won't hire people too experienced or smart cause they can ask for raises. if a nontalented person asks for a raise they can be replaced easily
well if you're talking about adults. im talking about just a highschool or college student maybe just out of college. but if you're like a full adult they don't want you to be too smart rocking the boat
High School kids are too unreliable and nobody wants them. College kids are OK, just don't act like you're going to ask for a 15 hr raise, they want people that won't make a fuss and just do their job and ask nothing. It would be really crazy if all of mcdonalds were run by illegals don't you think?
if you want a mcdonalds job you have to competently stupid in a way. it's hard to explain. you should have a nice personality and stuff though. dont appear too timid. you'll be fine
You sure about that? Illegal immigrants certainly do not seek to better the society they enter, they just want to help themselves. They aggregate in their own closed communities where they serve their own self-interest and try to expand, without giving much thought to how it hurts others. Squatting on land and using that feudal-age power to influence rule over everyone to match their ideal. A good example is France but it is happening all over the place, America included. Unintended or sneaky conquest is still conquest.
and what have you done to help your own society that didn't benefit yourself? Our society works in such a way that getting an education and a good job does benefit society as a whole and that's all immigrants want while also escaping the poverty and death that surrounds their lives in their home countries. Silicon valley was founded by mexican immigrants.
Really? People are still buying this? From what I remember there was one instance where Europeans openly used disease as a bio-weapon and it affected a very small percentage of one tribe. Most deaths had nothing to do with intentionally spread diseases.
I don't entirely disagree with him. I just disagree with the implication people usually draw that it was a major plot on the part of Europeans to kill off all the natives by spreading disease. In reality, it was nowhere near as widespread as people make on. And I doubt, most colonial Americans knew the viruses were going to kill off the native people when they arrived, as was implied by the context. As I said, I think there was only one or two instances where Europeans intentionally used disease to harm natives.
>clear counterexample
>doesn't count, doesn't fit the narrow criteria I just invented to support my conviction that all liberal causes are racist against whites
>"clear counter example"
>based on liberals from 50 years ago
I know you're likely not that bright, but when I say "liberals" I'm referring to current liberals, not every person who has called themselves a liberal in history, you ******* retard.
Next you'll be trying to argue that Liberals don't believe in gay marriage because classical liberals didn't, dummy.
I live in America and I could ask the next 10 people about what they think about Tibet and China, and probably none of them would have a clue what was going on.
I never even heard of the issue until I was out of high school and I had to educate myself on the issue.
If theres no assimilation, yes. You'd be hard pressed to find an Irish person who thinks Boston is a mini Ireland, but go into Pasadena, Texas and you won't be able to tell the difference from Mexico.
Oh yeah, because it's not like the mass Irish immigration in to the U.S didn't happen over a century ago or anything. OH wait... And let's not forget all these other "conquerors" like the Quakers, Catholics, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, or any other group who came in mass to the U.S. But here, let me make this easy enough for you to understand the difference between "a bunch of people from a different country moving in to or staying in an area." You know, because Texas was filled with Mexicans before we conquered it.
Conquer-
1.to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
2.to overcome by force; subdue: to conquer an enemy
Ah, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. i'm sorry. You see when I mentioned "assimilation" that wasn't just a random assortment of letters. That means that the people assimilated into the country.
"You know, because Texas was filled with Mexicans before we conquered it. "
Who conquered it? Surely you don't mean the american immigrants turned mexican citizens. They were peaceful. They only became violent after they stopped being peaceful, ******** .
You're calling the americans conquerors because they immigrated to mexican land lawfully and took it over?
The Mexican American War~
A war between the U.S. and Mexico spanned the period from spring 1846 to fall 1847. The war was initiated by the United States and resulted in Mexico's defeat and the loss of approximately half of its national territory in the north. In the U.S. the war is termed the Mexican–American War, also known as the Mexican War, the U.S.–Mexican War or the Invasion of Mexico. Which led to...
Outnumbered militarily and with many of its large cities occupied, Mexico could not defend itself; the country was also faced with many internal divisions, including the Caste War of Yucatán. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848, by American diplomat Nicholas Trist and Mexican plenipotentiary representatives Luis G. Cuevas, Bernardo Couto, and Miguel Atristain, ended the war. The treaty gave the U.S. undisputed control of Texas, established the U.S.-Mexican border of the Rio Grande, and ceded to the United States the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming.
Areas gained by the U.S through the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo colored in white.
Jesus Christ dude...
As per "assimilation" I don't think you understand how long it takes for entire cultures to assimilate, and you still don't have a clear understanding of the word "conquer" apparently if you still want to try to use that word to describe Mexicans living together in a certain area.
Lol, you're trying lecture me about history yet you can't go 10 years back to the ******* TEXAS REVOLUTION. You know, the war not involving the US government and which ended in the Republic of Texas in 1836? That war was fought by Mexican citizens, primarily American immigrants, but not the government of the USA.
Mexico lost it's lands to its own citizens. They went to war with the US after their former citizens decided to join the USA.
"Jesus Christ dude..." indeed. I love it when morons who have no idea what they're talking about try to educate their betters. It's just...perfect,
Yes, the mexicans who have existed in Texans since before the mass immigration of europe in the early 1900's and still haven't assimiliated are just more stubborn than the Irish who assimilated much quicker. It couldn' possibly have to with the social climate of todays america. Just those stubborn americans.
Ask Mexico if their former american immigrants weren't conquerors. You liberals are so cute.
So you're telling me every city that has a Chinatown has been "conquered"? A large group of people in a foreign country isn't "conquering" it just a people from the same culture bringing into their daily lives to enhance them.
Conquering is stealing land and calling it yours, driving people out, none of which is done by peaceful gatherings of immigrants who abide by all laws set in their host country. You can live in Chinatown, the laws are the same in Chinatown, there is no "conquering" being done.
"A large group of people in a foreign country isn't "conquering" it just a people from the same culture bringing into their daily lives to enhance them. "
Oy Vey, some cultural enrichments afoot.
Tell that to the Mexicans who lost Texas to "peaceful immigrants.",at least until the immigrants decided to not be so peaceful anymore.
Tell that to the current Texans who are losing their cities now. You don't know a thing about how immigration can easily turn into conquest.
indians didnt die because of illegal immigration though. they died because they came into contact with a more powerful people and with foriegn disease which decimated their numbers. it wasnt just because some people turned up that their entire race collapsed. alot of otehr **** had to happen.
when illegal mexicans are more technologically advanced, better educated, armed and supplied and carry diseases that US citizens arent immune to. then you can compare to the indians
The Indians had the same tech as the White man (guns, horses). The Indians' population rebounded after being decimated by disease. They lost to the White man because they couldn't unify to fight them off.
Truth; millions of native americans were wiped indirectly out from the initial burst of Columbus' escapades and what followed down south. Rampant sickness and ecological devastation spread up the East Coast like wildfire due to Spanish presence in Florida, in particular.
The result was that when the English began to settle in New England they were in effect inhabiting the ruins of a once prosperous and expansive society of people. I mean consider the spread of the Black Death: what served as a vector in its epidemic were rodent populations stowed on ships that were conducting trade. It follows then that in order for disease to spread so thoroughly across North America there must have been extensive trade lines or at a bare minimum interactions between all different kinds of civilizations.
You're an idiot if you can't distinguish an invasive force that pushes out the natives and takes their land from a group who come peacefully to cohabit the same land as the natives.
what this says is they pay taxes, but would contribute more if they could do it legally. I don't see anything about paying into social security, probably because they deduct it from your paycheck, and if you're an undocumented worker there's not a system in place for you to pay taxes into. If you're paying income tax and social security you have a social security number because you're somewhere along the path to citizenship or have a green card
I don't see why they would need to pay into SS if they're not going to rip the benefits of SS. They can't retire when they're 75 unless they are citizens, the way things are going, they will never have legal status because politicians keep using the "immigration reform" just to get votes (from both sides) and never do anything about it. Mainly because on the next election they can reuse the "immigration reform" and get more votes.
Either way SS i believe has a deficit and it's expected to get worse as the baby boomers start to retire. Too many americans are retiring and not many are contributing to SS. The solution? legalize iillegals so they can pay into SS. If im not wrong there have been estimates that illegals could solve the SS crisis by introducing a young workforce who will pay into SS until the baby boomers pass away.
Still SS can't last much longer the way it is now, they should just get rid of it and educate people on planning for their own retirements. Also, the money you get from SS is very little to begin with, if you retire earlier than 75 it's basically spare change. I have met many people living just on SS and they live in crappy conditions, that's why you see many old farts working part times because SS just isn't enough.
Same here, people dont seem to understand the hatred towards illegals is not "the racisms" but rather they can come here and like the jokes say take our jobs because they can work for cheap. They also dont pay taxes like you and most people say "well they pay sales tax on the things they buy" sales tax aint **** . Another argument is "They dont get paid as much as you so quit whining" No they make more because even though they get paid less they dont pay taxes so they get more in the end. Finally, the coup DE gra of it all is they get reap the benefits of being a tax payer despite not being one.
To top it all of Obama has made another executive order that allows graduate from foreign countries to get insta work visas. So now we have to compete with cheap college grads. Going to school in india or mexico is so cheap you can have doctors who work for half the current wages because they dont have insane loans to pay off.
So how come nobody is up in arms about corporations like Nike or Apple among thousands others outsourcing jobs to the east? Literally millions of jobs are outsourced and everyone blames the illegals. Most also do pay taxes, refer to my comment up or look up ITIN number on the IRS website. And about the college graduates it just sounds like whining from you.
You can graduate without getting loans you know? even if you're poor as **** (hell it's easier if you're poor) you can get your career without loans. Only idiots or dumb people get loans to finish their career. Many of my friends had to work 2 jobs to pay for their careers and they owed 0 money when they graduated.
Stop being entitled and work for your future, many doit and many have done so already.
1. I had no loans, I used scholarships and grants to pay for school did not owe dime.
2.Outsourcing is a large part of the problem but to say illegals play no part in it is dumb
3.I have a career, so I got work but again ignoring the issues facing the rest of our country is dumb as well, and it is not about being entitled but rather the fact that it is easier for a non-citizen to get jobs than the natives.
So stop whining and trying to defend the retards taking out loans who now owe the government billions of dollars and want it all forgiven. I really don't care if illegals have it easier (which they don't) or if Americans have it easier. This is America and hard work will make you rich, anyone who wants a handout can **** off.
People are dumb enough to let illegals "steal" their jobs, then they didn't deserve it to begin with.
I don't see an illegal marching in the operating room any time soon to perform a surgery.
I'd say, you pay more in sales tax, than income tax, especially if you don't earn that much which i doubt illegal immigrants do. In fact, most of them earn very little, comparatively, which would grant them tax returns but a lot of them don't claim them.
I'll just give my opinion, don't know if anyone agrees with me.
I am against illegal immigration.
With that, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. If you want to come here legally, come on over. But, if you don't want to, then don't come here. Because along with the illegal part comes an attitude. That attitude is often of non-assimilation. For example, not speaking English or waving your previous country's flag around. When you do that, you're admitting to us that you don't want to be here and we don't want you here either.
If you want to be here, live here, work here, be on our side and be on our TEAM. Then by all means come here. But more often than not, you don't actually want to be here. You're an opportunist and that's it. You are taking advantage of us and our good graces just to hold allegiance to your home country and to your people. Which is fine, but do that in your country....with your people.
My country is for me and my people. REGARDLESS of where they come from. We come together to be ONE people in ONE nation under ONE flag. We do not have the room nor patience to set up my way and your way in my country. It is to be OUR way, not both yours and mine. We are to have our ways together. If you want to do things your way, do it in your country, not mine.
Nothing wrong with waving the flag of your home county. You don't have to come here and root for the USA (or wherever, it's just where I live) when we duke it out at international events, and you can always be a part of that country.
But yeah, you are if our house, so if you're going to live here, you'd better try to fit in, learn the rules, and not disrespect us for not being your country. That's the point.
Completely closing our borders to people in need is also bad. *cough*Wall of Trump *cough*
A nice balance would be good, that allowed people to enter the U.S. legally, and not get denied for ******** reasons again and again. I've heard of people from places in Europe even that had to wait years just to get a green card.
Immigrants built this country. Quite literally, unless you're Native American, you or somebody in your ancestry immigrated here.
The simple answer is "because it's illegal". Let's quick making out like the problem is the immigration part that is the problem. It's not. It's the illegal part. I have no problem with people who come here legally. The USA has bent over backwards to make it easier to become a citizen and tons of people still choose to come here illegally. Why? So they don't have to pay taxes and follow other laws.
I was having a good time browsing funny **** and then i stumble on this piece of political **** . This is exactly why people are leaving FJ, nothing but neckbeards trying to make this the next pol.
Oh yea, look how FJ loves this piece of **** content. 1 single page of comments and most of them are a circle jerk between a couple of neckbeards. ******* retard.
Yeah, i've been getting sick of how much garbage is on the front page nowadays. It used to be overused memes and reposts, now its just reposts and political tripe.
Admin wonders why less people visit FJ every day? I imagine idiots like the OP posting their idiotic 14 year-old political opinions to initiate one of many daily circle jerks on a comedy-based sharing site may be a pretty big contributor.
that is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. Its not like Illegal immigrants come here with superior technology and deadly deceases, while we've never heard of them.