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The situation escalates. Hungarian state of emergency: www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/09/15/hungary-migrants-state-of-emergency/72295914/ Refugees sandi

Hungarian state of emergency: www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/09/15/hungary-migrants-state-of-emergency/72295914/

Refugees sanding off their fingerprints nyhederne.tv2.dk/samfund/2015-09-12-vil-undgaa-registrering-flygtninge-sliber-fingeraftryk-vaek (source is in Danish, the video is the second one on the page)

2 out of 100 refugees could be ISIS militants: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234458/Two-100-Syrian-migrants-ISIS-fighters-PM-warned-Lebanese-minister-tells-Cameron-extremist-group-sending-jihadists-cover-attack-West.html

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#6 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Pretty happy that I live in one of the most isolated places that nobody can be bothered to make the journey to.

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#20 to #6 - repugnantpug (09/16/2015) [-]

Yeah we have it pretty good with refugee stuff. We've never had much stress with them, and probably never will thanks to where we are in the world.

Still though we probably should try and take as many as we can, because we simply can. ****** nations in the middle east like Saudi Arabia have always been refusing to help their own neighbours because they're oil tycoon twats, so everyone goes to europe because there's at least some hope of getting in. It puts a ****** strain on countries like Greece that can't handle them because of their economic situation right now.

Meanwhile we've got just a few hundred war refugees coming over, and we can honestly take a few more easily. It's often blown up by provocative media how damaging bringing people over is (David Cameron and news papers vilifying the 1000-2000 refugees over the whole of last year as a "swarm" and even as "cockroaches"). In reality if a country has a system in place that works which is set up to handle these sorts of people can take them on pretty cheaply. It's only when the system is put under too much strain like in Greece that things get out of hand.

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#276 to #20 - onionsam (09/16/2015) [-]

I'd rather we focus on our own poverty situation that bringing in more

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#467 to #276 - privatepumpanickel (09/17/2015) [-]

only you're probably only in poverty because the goverment is restricting you guys of resources they can afford 100 times over. Common misconception.
"we need 2 luk afta our own furst!"
Even if every country - mainly English-speaking ones + Europe - was 100 percent "clean" of immigration you really think things like homelessness and unemployment will improve drastically? Everyone will be so damn surprised when they realise its not even the main issue and the goverment will continue to not fund the right things anyway, and it's actually not immigrants which are starving us of resources. Immigration in the UK is so much smaller than what these gullible idiots make themselves believe. I don't even know why i'm getting into this i'm gonna get butchered for expressing this opinion lol

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#491 to #467 - onionsam (09/17/2015) [-]

being that you are most likely not from New Zealand i feel like you cant really have an opinion on the high poverty rate that exists here. im all for immigration but i think that government funding needs to be spent on helping the impoverished here instead of spending millions more on rehabilitating and settling more and more refugees than we currently do. especially in recent times where we are having to resort to programs to pay for thousands of childrens school lunches, giving them breakfast and even clothing them because their parents are unable to care for them properly. Not to mention the fact that we are spending billions on rebuilding one of our biggest cities in the wake of a series of large earthquakes that killed people and displaced thousands. our government spending is needed on our shores for the people that contribute to our taxes.

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#500 to #491 - privatepumpanickel (09/17/2015) [-]

I had no idea about the several crisis in New Zealand and how stupid do I look. I hope it gets better there though for real

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#497 to #491 - privatepumpanickel (09/17/2015) [-]

even before reading all of your comment I must say you're right and I shouldn't have got ahead of myself. I didn't know.
I was so convinced that you were just another type of person looking for excuses to hate and idk, this does not help my point in the long run either lol.
What i'm trying to say is usually, people of the right-wing persuasion who I deal with on a daily basis in person and on places like Facebook, are usually pretty dim, and I don't have to get into such details or politics or specifics as I just try to get through to them the main point/my opinion whiich is a larg emajority of people are getting sucked along by this ******** that the media spews out. I wrongly assumed two things about you and for that i'm sorry.

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#636 to #491 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

As someone who is actually living in NZ, I can say you're blowing stuff out of proportion. Letting in 600-700 refugees isn't going to throw us into poverty, and it'll help people evading one of the most war torn nations in around a decade. I mean, we had 26 million dollars to waste on a ******* flag change and we're still doing fine.

Most of the damages for the recent earthquake have either been dealt with or are in the process of being dealt with. That was years ago now. The problem with Kids getting lunches is also being dealt with. That doesn't mean we should completely avoid all possibilities for helping people overseas. If we just say "nah come back when we've fixed all our problems first" then we're just being selfish, because we can both help our own and others at the same time. And no, that's not going to take away from our own people's wellbeing.

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#824 to #636 - assrocket (09/17/2015) [-]

Poverty is actually one of our worst issues here because not only is it common, it's also detrimental to other areas of our lives (eg: education, crime rate, general health) and if we don't solve it asap, it's only going to get worse.
If we accept 600-700 refugees we are going to be displacing 600-700 kiwis in need of affordable housing, and putting them out of work. We will also probably be funding benefits for the refugees which may or may not be reasonable (and for safety, we have to assume they're gonna be stupid). That money comes from the government, but it comes from our people first.

600-700 refugees might be sustainable per year. And it might also improve our relationship with other nations, while giving suffering people a safe home. But for how long? For this to be affordable, we need to bring enough money into the country to continue to fund the ever-growing number of immigrants, all while meeting the base demands of our own people. Not to mention the fact that we need to prepare for likely future emergencies like the Christchurch earthquake. But where is all that money going to come from? We already suffer from poverty in many areas, and if we can't even find the money to support these people, it's unreasonable to expect that we can support any extras.

Sad as it is, I don't think there are many countries capable of running smoothly while effectively handling the extra cost of accomodating refugees.

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#834 to #824 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

Poverty is a bad issue no matter where you go, and it always has those detriments. It's why I'm critical of the western capitalist economies (too much difference between the rich at the top and the poor at the bottom). But that's a whole different discussion.

The most important thing to realise about this situation is that it is a global issue, not just a Syrian or European problem. Everyone who ducks their head in the sand and refuses to help is just being a coward if they don't have a good reason for not helping anyone, in ANY situation. This is no different.

The fact though still is that there are millions of people who have fled Syria because of the civil war going on. So, where are they to go? Back to Syria? That's to their deaths. So their neighbours like Saudi Arabia, surely they can take them in? And yeah they can, but they're run by the biggest oil tycoon cunts you have ever seen. They're actually proposing to give mosques to Europe rather than have ANY refugees come in. And again, they're direct neighbours, and very similar to Syria in terms of culture.

But still, we can't change what's happened, and now we have these people on European borders instead. Greece can't afford to take them in at all, so they need help alleviating those that are coming in. Germany, Hungary and the rest can't take millions of people in by themselves- they need help if they're gonna do it. So, that's where everyone else in the world comes in.

We have many problems in our country, but none too dissimilar or vastly worse than the ones in other nations. We're not especially poor, we do have a fair bit of economic disparity, but not a great deal. We're one of the best off nations in the world right now. Few places are safer than NZ to live, even if it is quite expensive to do so.

So should we avoid getting involved with the refugee crisis? Like I said, this is something as many nations as possible should help out with. It's a global issue. If we don't want to, we have the luxury of just closing our borders and not letting anyone in, period. We have that geographic advantage. So why don't we?

Because we can both help ourselves and the world, and not really be left in the **** for it. These people have to go somewhere, no way around it. They can't go back to Syria. Europe is struggling as it is. We need to take these people in not because it benefits us, but because it is the thing that benefits 700 people and helps alleviates a global crisis, just that little bit extra. It's that simple.

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#783 to #636 - urgey (09/17/2015) [-]

"still doing fine" Tell that to half the people in foxton and shannon

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#785 to #783 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

Ok, what's going on there?

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#789 to #785 - urgey (09/17/2015) [-]

A metric **** load of cunts without proper education, shoes, a stable family, love, and living conditions similar to 19- ******* 86.

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#791 to #789 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

That's pretty **** , sounds like they need help. I live in Auckland so the worst we get is homeless in the CBD and the west region in general, but nothing really awful.

Was gonna make a joke about how at least they're not Palmey or Levin but then googled to see that Shannon is next to both.

Still though, you can't say that for the most part NZ is pretty alright as a whole. Those towns are pretty small, and at their worst from what everything the internet can show me aren't exactly Detroit or anything.

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#793 to #791 - urgey (09/17/2015) [-]

Good point but think about their situation like this; just because you have one broken arm and a friend has two wont mean your arm hurts less.

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#967 to #791 - hydraetis (09/18/2015) [-]

Another point: Ever notice how expensive housing is in Auckland? www.barfoot.co.nz/market-reports/2015/august/suburb-report

It's already difficult enough for many kiwi-born youth to get established in their own homes as-is, and you're advocating to hand over 600-700 of those homes to refugees for free? For the love of god, never enter politics. You'd run the country 5 kilometres into the ground in months.

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#503 to #491 - privatepumpanickel (09/17/2015) [-]

also (lastly) there is the smaller crisis of sanctioning her ein the UK and things like families actually going hungry are beginning to happen and disabled people being deemed fit for work is happening but again a large amount of people think that must mean "the immigrants r taking our benefits!" which is just such a ridiculous thing to presume. We need to yes, focus on looking afte rour own as well as the people who have humbly arrived here and are working just as hard to integrate into our society and work and find a roof over their heads, because they don't get any more privileges than we do, it's the greed of the system and the fact it can so easily point the finger at things like the migration crisis to avoid the blame which is more frightening.

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#745 to #20 - hydraetis (09/17/2015) [-]

You want to know why I'm against pulling in people from other nations in droves? Because they don't understand that New Zealand is an islander nation with an islander culture, and thus they don't respect that fact.

Just look at the current state of our beaches. 50 years ago, they were full of ocean life, with mussels covering the rocks, and crabs and other crustaceans living in any opening in the rocks they could find, or just burrowing into the sand if there was no space. Now? Pretty much the only beaches that remain that way are the Maori-owned ones. Why is that? Because all of these ******* all-consuming, " **** preservation" Asians came in and wiped clean every beach they could get to. Like I'm sorry, but if you bastards want to wipe your own homeland clean of any and all resources, be my guest. But do that in my home, and quite frankly if someone threw you into the ocean with an anchor strapped to your ankle I would look the other way. New Zealand was the ultimate remedy for me and my mind. Going back there was the only thing in the world that could make me truly happy again, free from all the **** that is trying to kill me from the inside out. The reason why it could do that is because New Zealand was my home. But now, the last time I went back? It's slipped into being more of a reminder of home than home itself. When I walk around, it's like half the people I see are all Asian, coming from families who don't understand what New Zealand is supposed to be, either adapting only partially or not at all. I want the island nation and culture back that I grew up in and loved, not this ******** Asian mutt culture that it's being converted into. one extra little tidbit: the first person in my ancestry to come to New Zealand (I'm like 6-7th generation kiwi) came from Yugoslavia. Upon arrival, he was so taken aback by the country and so thankful for what he perceived to be the most incredible privilege he's ever had (being able to live in NZ), that he decided to give up his native language completely as a sign of his love and devotion for the nation.

What have the Indians and Coastal Asians done to show their thanks?

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#757 to #745 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

There are plenty of things from foreign cultures that come to NZ that I'm not ok with, like the Chinese spitting thing (I work as a swim teacher, the bathrooms have signs everywhere asking people not to spit. It's honestly ******* nasty).

I remember seeing Asians coming and taking muscles from the side of rocks at a west coast beach north of Auckland, (I don't know why, they were all too small to get anything from). I don't know about them polluting especially more than other peoples though? I mean, some of the oldest families in NZ are Asian mining families that got started back in the mid 1800's, so it's a bit much to be saying it's Asians in general. They're too big a group in NZ to target as being solely responsible for the decline in ocean life here.

I'd be happy to lend my tax payer dollar to educating and defending more marine ( **** , just in general) reserves around NZ. If they know about what they can and can't do then there's no excuse for anyone at all over fish or something like that.

It's probably worth noting that there's a lot more organised poaching, over fishing and such in NZ that doesn't come down to where the people are from. Some have lived here for a long time but still litter, pollute and over fish.

You're not wrong about the state of NZ beaches, but if we want to help the situation, it's way too simplistic to say it's just Asians. We'd be missing too many culprits.

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#766 to #757 - hydraetis (09/17/2015) [-]

Well I tell you what, taking in thousands of people who are from an entirely different culture and that have shown an overall apparent lack of interest in adapting is not going to help at all. We already have the maoris acting like ********** 15% of general population, 50% of prison population , we don't need any more. Especially considering those extras aren't native to the place.

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#777 to #766 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

People are obviously going to retain much of their culture wherever they go to. My grandparents kept their Polish traditions when they came to NZ after and during WW2, including their language, cooking, religion, etc. And there are going to be negative parts of any culture, whether it be Buddhism, Islamic, Western, Russian and so on, and on the other side of that coin there's going to be positive things their culture has that other ones don't have. It's not a lack of interest, it's fear of losing their own tradition, culture and who they grew up as that is why first generation immigrants don't tend to integrate perfectly. As it always will, integration take time- but they're still just people like you and me.

Still, a person is going to be an asshole or not regardless of their culture, even if it influences them one way or another. Not to mention, when people come to NZ for the first time, they aren't going to get good education off the bat, nor are even their children. You literally start with nothing unless you had some luck on your side. And getting out of that poverty is really difficult- my own parents had to go from low class to mid class citizens after they spent decades learning at university and taking apprenticeships.

That's why there are still ethnic groups of people in these situations- they start with no real help, no education and as was the case around 50-100 years ago, had segregation and racism to deal with from white people at the top of society. That's as much the case any more, but as their culture was stuck in poverty for so long, it evolved around a low class life, including that of crime such as gangs and it's dragging them down. We can do things like give minority group children scholarships to private schooling- an opportunity they would rarely ever get, that gives a generation the opportunity to get out of their financial situation. It's something schools like Kings College are already doing, but it's obviously not enough on its own.

So, should the people who do have the money and influence in NZ just say the minorities own fault and leave them with their culture of poverty, or should we try helping?

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#784 to #20 - masterboll (09/17/2015) [-]

you do realise that the racists are thumbing people down from an external website, right?

whether youre right or wrong doesnt matter with these posts, anything that goes against their jimmy russle memes will be thumbed down.

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#788 to #784 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

I don't really care about thumbs. I'm just bored of all the obviously slanted migration and such posts that keep popping up. If I can get a word in between the circlejerk and disrupt **** without being an asshat I'll probably do it.

Plus it's related to stuff about NZ, and we hardly get talked about on FJ so it felt like a special occasion.

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#886 to #784 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Oh look, it's mastercuck.

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#782 to #20 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

/pol/ works in groups

The red thumbs aren't from fj users. Just don't reply to them or else all of them will thumb you down at once.

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#194 to #20 - satansferret (09/16/2015) [-]

The problem is lack of screening and integration of such a horde.

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#501 to #20 - windorigins (09/17/2015) [-]

I'm sorry the popular opinion is xenophobic as **** , man. Good luck on your way to red thumb oblivion...

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#647 to #501 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

>If you don't like immigrants coming in and ******** up your country by raping and murdering in the name of islam and mooching off of the government and not working, you're an evil racist bigot nazi!!!!!

I'm guessing you're from Sweden.

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#760 to #647 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

Uh... we're talking about NZ? When has any of that happened here?

Our police aren't **** like the UK ones were in that instance where they didn't investigate the Pakistani rapists earlier this year, not to mention that just flat out hasn't happened here.

inb4 someone says we're gonna turn into a rape nation because 600 syrians are coming to NZ.

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#622 to #501 - repugnantpug (09/17/2015) [-]

It's fine, though kinda strange also. NZ has really lenient laws for migration, so there's a **** ton of different ethnicities that live here. If people were really concerned for us bringing in dangerous terrorist or something they'd be asking for a tightening how we've always let people live here legally. Instead we're all caught up in fear mongering.

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#945 to #622 - windorigins (09/17/2015) [-]

I'm french. qnd we're even past this point here. You wouldn't believe the ******** some people are spewing on TV.

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#479 to #20 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

to follow up on what ferret guy said. plus, they skip the queue. what about all the legal immigrants that chose to wait for their documents instead of just entering the country illegally? it's such a slap to their faces.

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#590 to #6 - Johnsfer (09/17/2015) [-]

>implying I wanna **** sheep just to be a citizen

Nice try New Zealand

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#370 to #6 - bothemastaofall (09/16/2015) [-]

Until it's the last free place on earth

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#455 to #6 - therockofshame (09/17/2015) [-]

The Pitch | The New Zealand Invasion (100% There for taking)

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#507 to #6 - nywrestler (09/17/2015) [-]

Can you ski all year round in New Zealand?

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#811 to #507 - sacker (09/17/2015) [-]

The normal ski season is usually June - October. It's nothing like Whistler or Banff (etc.) but our fields hold their own.
My personal favourite is Treble Cone near Wanaka. Cardrona, also near Wanaka, is owned by the same people, but it's a really friendly field that has terrain for everyone so it's super popular.
Just go. You won't regret it.

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#825 to #811 - ashirt (09/17/2015) [-]

ruapehu for life yo

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#826 to #825 - sacker (09/17/2015) [-]

North Islanders, with your Tropic of Capricorn and your State Highways 1-59.

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#513 to #507 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

I don't believe so, no, but do some googling, you should get a more solid answer. Between June-October is Ski season, I know that.

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#743 to #6 - Xyhpon (09/17/2015) [-]

As someone who actually lives in New Zealand is it actually as hard as people say it is to travel there if you have a "criminal" record? I have one misdemeanor on my record and people say that it would either be extremely hard or impossible to travel there for at least 5 years. Mind you, I got in trouble for being out too late with my ex girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 19, and they didn't feel like clearing it from my record.

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#747 to #743 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Wait, so, your 'crime' was being out with a 17 year old? Like, is that it? Cause if that's it ... ... ... I honestly believe that a customs officer would not give a flying **** at all. But I don't know much about the processes regarding getting into N.Z, living or visiting.
Did some googling for you (Hopefully it was a tiny bit helpful):
All non-New Zealanders must be of good character.
People with criminal convictions or who have provided false or misleading information will not be granted a visa unless a character waiver is granted.
Unsubstantiated allegations and civil matters are not sufficient to demonstrate that a person is not of good character. People are however required to declare whether or not they are under investigation by a law enforcement agency in any country, or have a criminal record.
In the case of character waivers, each application is considered on its individual merits and taking into account, for example, the seriousness of an offence, number of offences and how long ago the event/s occurred.
A special direction is considered under section 17 of the Immigration Act 2009 and allows exceptions to be given to a person who is not eligible for a visa. This includes people sentenced to a term of imprisonment of five years or more.
If a special direction is granted applicants then can apply for a visa to enter New Zealand. In these circumstances criminal convictions are not required to be considered by INZ when deciding the application, but all other requirements need to be met.

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#764 to #747 - Xyhpon (09/17/2015) [-]

Haha yeah, it was mainly a problem because her mom was nuts and made a fuss about it, not because it was really all that bad. I've wanted to visit New Zealand since I was like 10 so I got really disappointed when people were telling me I wouldn't be able to, and google was being of no help. Its a pity I didn't just put a little more time into it, or just called someone. I'm visiting Australia in about a month and a half and it would have been awesome to go over to NZ too. Good to know for the future though, thanks for the info man, and for actually finding something that's a bit more clear than what I was getting.

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#817 to #743 - ryrynz (09/17/2015) [-]

Wow.. that's ******* ridiculous. Your country is backward as **** .

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#963 to #817 - Xyhpon (09/18/2015) [-]

Murica. Had to go to jail and everything because of it. Only other time I got in trouble like that was when I was watching my friends brother who apparently jacked a gps from someones car, and I got charged with burglary because I was 18 and he was 15. But they let that one go. I guess I just have bad luck

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#831 to #6 - isradam (09/17/2015) [-]

I have a fervent dream of moving to new zealand and with the new escalating situation in europe it's just grown.
Thing is I have zero idea how or what to do.

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#382 to #6 - Monopolus (09/16/2015) [-]

What's it like living on Middle-Earth anyway?

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#412 to #382 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Pretty chilled. I don't know, I say it is, but a lot of people say N.Z is **** . But I love it here, only problem is the isolation from the rest of the world. A huge bonus but also a problem.

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#432 to #412 - Monopolus (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah, if you want to be isolated, New Zealand's a ******* godsend, but that's the big gist of NZ. If you want to be more involved with the world, you gotta move to America or Europe.

I know that the Internet doesn't make that ENTIRELY true, but still.

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#55 to #6 - aeros ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

If I could choose to go on vacation anywhere in the world, I'd choose New Zealand

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#488 to #6 - strychnine (09/17/2015) [-]

( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

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#498 to #6 - itzlammy ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

mfw invaders

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#272 to #6 - onionsam (09/16/2015) [-]

nz mentioned. swell with ****** flag redesigns

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#787 to #272 - brainbug (09/17/2015) [-]

I just want our flag to be rare

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#728 to #272 - hydraetis (09/17/2015) [-]

A couple of them were okay. The other 100,000 ideas were definitely utter **** though.

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#8 to #6 - naafi (09/16/2015) [-]

***** they are trying to come here too. I'm always seeing **** on facebook about people trying to sign petitions to make the government let a tonne of them in. We are letting in small amounts at the moment

www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/71820234/new-zealand-is-to-take-an-extra-600-syrian-refugees

But people are wanting us to let in more. The kind of people I see saying we need to take in refugees are the kind of people that think government money is magic and grows on trees

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#9 to #8 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Well ... 750 annually isn't too bad. At least it isn't 50,000 in a week or so. I don't want to bring in more refugees, not because of anything racial, I just want N.Z to be underpopulated. But at least with the 750, they won't cause many problems and have actually made the journey to this bloody distant land.

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#26 to #9 - phoenixtwo ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

******* NZ population is absurd, somewhere upwards of 25% of the total is in one city.
Plus a lot of them go to Aus anyway, so our glorious island empire should be safe

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#93 to #26 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Yeah, that one city has more people living in it than the entire population of the South Island I'm pretty sure.

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#403 to #9 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Aus is getting 10k or so, you cunts have it good

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#47 to #6 - ghostofnignaz (09/16/2015) [-]

Yeah tell that to the maoris you white imperialist pig! **** the queen.

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#95 to #47 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

What a disappointment you are to the world.

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#339 to #47 - thenoahgoesree ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

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#160 to #47 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

>calling us imperialist
>Muslims purposely causing chaos in European countries

Wake the **** up.

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#875 to #47 - koshmiester (09/17/2015) [-]

you should have been a blowjob

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#414 to #47 - thetrapkiller (09/17/2015) [-]

**thetrapkiller used "*roll picture*"**
**thetrapkiller rolled image**
lol don't try and please burn in hell

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#386 to #47 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

By thumbing him down you're admitting to being an albino piece of ****

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#827 to #47 - assrocket (09/17/2015) [-]

What. the. **** ?
I feel so violated.

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#840 to #827 - ghostofnignaz (09/17/2015) [-]

I can violate your kiwi looking vagina if you catch mah drift ;^p

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#851 to #6 - vwanyama (09/17/2015) [-]

Like Scotland, but further away.

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#379 to #6 - childpls (09/16/2015) [-]

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#821 to #6 - megapepsifreak (09/17/2015) [-]

******* chumps in my school try and guilt trip us into petition to raise the refugee intake.

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#236 to #6 - Thunderrr ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

Are there extremely deadly creatures around every corner and mostly in your toilet in NZ too (like in Australia) ?
If not, I'd really love to live there.
If so, I'd still want to live there.

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#326 to #236 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

The most deadliest creature we have is called the Katipo spider, infact, it's the only deadly creature we have, but you know what makes it even better? The last recorded death from that spider was in the 1890's. We are probably one of the only places where nothing (except Humans and domesticated animals I guess) can kill you and/or hurt you

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#333 to #326 - creatablejam (09/16/2015) [-]

I love how you guys are so close to us aussies, but have so much less ****** animals to deal with

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#356 to #333 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

It's cause we separated from mainland Australia such a long time ago, that no real large number of dangerous animals evolved venom or poison at that time. We only have one spider that has a 'deadly' venom, the Katipo spider, but I use deadly very lightly because there have been no reported deaths from that spider for a very long time.

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#680 to #356 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Its not. It because the Maoris ATE EVERYTHING. That includes things that pose a threat, that includes large wildlife and small. Anything they could catch, they devoured, including each other.
There are ****** little islands that people aren't allowed to go because they're afraid Maoris will eat the last bastion of wildlife on the islands.

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#701 to #680 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Hah no. They ate Moas which took away the food source for the Haast Eagle. The Māori had quite an honest world view, pre-colonial times. They didn't eat the Kiwi that much, but went for other game. New Zealand species are just declining in general and we are trying to stop that.

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#358 to #356 - creatablejam (09/16/2015) [-]

from like the 1880s? or 70s?

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#361 to #358 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

I did a quick google search: Last reported death was in 1901, I thought it was earlier, around the 1880-1890's as well.

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#357 to #356 - creatablejam (09/16/2015) [-]

i know m8 just wanted to make a funny

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#718 to #326 - alphahacker (09/17/2015) [-]

What about orcs?

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#722 to #718 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

We ride into battle on our War sheep, with a can of L&P in our hand, destroying the orcs and forcing them to return to the ground.

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#592 to #326 - biater (09/17/2015) [-]

I wanna move to NZ

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#719 to #6 - ImmortalBaconEater ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Pray that the sheep do not rise up against you. That is one battle you will not win.

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#723 to #719 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

4 Million people VS +60 Million sheep? **** , that's 15 sheep per person, a Kiwi mans wet dream right there.

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#768 to #723 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

I thought that was Wales' thing, not New Zealand's, or was it both of theirs?

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#780 to #768 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Both. It originally was something to do with wales, but N.Z became known as sheep shaggers as well.

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#50 to #6 - mrshrapnel (09/16/2015) [-]

Only people making journeys there is hobbits.

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#373 to #6 - gameku (09/16/2015) [-]

Next stop!
Huehuehuehuehue~

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#567 to #373 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

The perfect target to eat a broadside shelling.

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#101 to #6 - spilll (09/16/2015) [-]

Me too, it's called Indiana, USA :p

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#302 to #101 - The Last Templar (09/16/2015) [-]

Ah yes, Indiana... where we've got corn and meth

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#310 to #302 - emagehttsol (09/16/2015) [-]

How dare you forget about NASCAR

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#315 to #310 - The Last Templar (09/16/2015) [-]

Awww.... and I tried so hard to wipe nascar from my memory. lol

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#374 to #6 - starlordoriginal (09/16/2015) [-]

oh **** , I took a half second look at it and thought "Japan" until I saw the below comments

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#854 to #6 - guldknight (09/17/2015) [-]

All of Europe is going out of control and i'm sitting here like

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#275 to #6 - inergio (09/16/2015) [-]

I would immigrate in NZ, but then i wouldn´t be any better than this scum who is ravaging EU. I guess Sudoku is the only option now.

WASSUP?! MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!

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#842 to #6 - cantexplain ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

you're difficult to invade in Plague Inc.

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#331 to #6 - creatablejam (09/16/2015) [-]

Australian here, victoria to be specific. plan on moving there eventually

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#468 to #331 - hanabanana (09/17/2015) [-]

Oh, you mean LIKE AN IMMIGRANT

jk

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#471 to #468 - creatablejam (09/17/2015) [-]

are we forgetting how the english literally america 2.0'd us?

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#475 to #471 - hanabanana (09/17/2015) [-]

I've considered moving there eventually, but I'm concerned about being able to find a job. I need skills!

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#476 to #475 - creatablejam (09/17/2015) [-]

nz or aus?

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#735 to #476 - hanabanana (09/17/2015) [-]

NZ, but I've also considered Aus. I was considering Norway until recent developments. But for now it's nothing but a bunch of talk. I can't afford a move that big at the moment.

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#734 to #475 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Please don't last thing we need is more weaboos

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#483 to #331 - yourdonutz ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

if you live in Melbourne and are going to move here prepare to live slowly even in the city's, its very slow paced and relaxing here, the only place i can't speak for is the south island. that's what i noticed when i moved here from vic.

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#828 to #6 - newdevyx (09/17/2015) [-]

**newdevyx used "*roll picture*"**
**newdevyx rolled image**Do you mind if i come there?

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#778 to #6 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

/pol/ has launched another attack on front page. Just thumb down the racist posts and move on.

Don't reply to them, they work in groups to thumb you down.

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#818 to #6 - epicisthefun (09/17/2015) [-]

you live in the average persons personification of heaven

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#884 to #6 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

I hear you. Aucklander here

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#805 to #6 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** You don't even have to worry about getting invaded in Risk.

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#850 to #6 - rebuilt has deleted their comment [-]

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#752 to #6 - rundas (09/17/2015) [-]

Just hope a bunch of Orcs don't show up demanding refuge in the Shire
original joke

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#830 to #6 - isradam (09/17/2015) [-]

DUDE

YES I'VE WAITING FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU

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#838 to #830 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Hello, how may your average Kiwi be of service to you?

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#846 to #838 - isradam (09/17/2015) [-]

I want to leave my country (jewland) which I was forced into by my parents (we come from argentina)
I am 21, volunteered 8 months for the red cross, did 5 of my school years as an advisor for other teens with depression and I want to study and live in new zealand. What do

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#885 to #846 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Get visa to come to country to work, enjoy life.

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#894 to #885 - isradam (09/17/2015) [-]

but how?

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#924 to #894 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

I am not actually familiar with this process, so I am of no help to yoi. Sorry

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#950 to #924 - isradam (09/17/2015) [-]

Well... I know it's a bit much but... could you call the ministry of interior (i think that's the one) and ask? I sent an email but they haven't replied

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#953 to #950 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Emails are not always reliable, very true, try emailing one more time, and hopefully they respond. I don't need to call them, as all the information is online for you.
If you want to study in N.Z, go here: www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/study/

If you want to move to N.Z and work, look around this site:
www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/move-to-nz

They should help you a bit.

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#964 to #953 - isradam (09/18/2015) [-]

I love you.
If this works out you may have set my life on a way better path

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#746 to #6 - toxicwarning (09/17/2015) [-]

Oh, believe me, the ISIS will find their way There And Back Again

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#816 to #6 - epicisthefun (09/17/2015) [-]

lucky, its beautiful there

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#733 to #6 - trollypollyz (09/17/2015) [-]

Island master race

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#725 to #6 - hydraetis (09/17/2015) [-]

Except for a ******* mass of bloody indians.

Just waiting for the day that they try and pull the same **** that they pulled in Fiji, only because New Zealand is following in the path of England it won't kick them out.

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#729 to #725 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Uh, I don't think so. Sure we're multi-cultural, but I don't think Indians or an Indian culture will takeover. The Māori will make sure of that, too. I just looked up the Indo-Fijian people - many have left Fiji because they don't have equality there.

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#737 to #729 - hydraetis (09/17/2015) [-]

I just don't find it fair that all the "minorities" get to have their own cultural safe havens but white countries don't. like if a Korean wants to experience pure Korean culture, they can just hop on a plane back to Korea. But if an Englishman wanted to experience pure English culture, they're **** out of luck because no such place exists any more. They just have to live with the semi-English hybrid environment that stands today.

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#741 to #737 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

I understand what you're saying, the Asian countries have kept very close ties to their culture, but that's because they have such a long history, one that has been recorded and practiced for thousands of years. Whereas in Australia and New Zealand (especially N.Z), the culture is still fairly new, with a lot of it not being recorded, only passed down through oral teachings. Multiculturalism is just becoming dominant in the White countries, because they want to dry different cultures.

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#732 to #729 - hydraetis (09/17/2015) [-]

True, for once the Maori will actually be a good thing should that ever happen.

And yea, I suppose that's true. I'm mostly just speaking of Auckland and how when I last came back to NZ to visit home there were Indians god damn everywhere. Also not a fan of how some streets have been fully converted into being Asian. New Zealand is supposed to be an islander place, and I'm not sure if most of the people coming to New Zealand recognise that.

The main point I push as to why I am not a fan of all these people from other cultures coming in is, you know how the Maori beaches generally are full of sea life? as in mussels covering all of the rocks, with crabs and other crustaceans messing about inside the cracks and sand Well when my dad was growing up, mostly all of the beaches were like that. But now, thanks to the all-consuming "what does preservation mean?" asians, we now are stuck with all the lifeless beaches.

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#738 to #732 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

This might come off as racist to whomever reads this or not, most likely not: Not sure how good you're geography of New Zealand is, but there's a place called Hahei in the Coromandel region. I know exactly what you mean when talking about those sorts of Asians. Countless times have a bunch of them been caught in the act taking so many little things such as ******* pippies and cat eyes and God knows what else, cleaning out several ******* rock pools, just because they want to make a 'broth' ... are you ******* kidding me? **** off, we need our beaches to be protected. And we actually enjoy having marine biodiversity. Go to the ******* market and buy the ******* fish, don't take it for yourself you ********* . We don't take it from those areas for a reason. And I to, would very much like New Zealand to remain as a Māori/Pacifica dominate culture, it's what I've grown up with and learnt to love.

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#619 to #6 - inteus ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

****** aye, could still do with better internet though.....

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#693 to #6 - metalheadtildeath (09/17/2015) [-]

is there any kind of "nah **** that guy, he's from the south island" kind of ******** between the 2 islands?

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#712 to #693 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Uhm ... yeah and no. Aucklanders are called Jafas/Jaffas (Just Another ******* Aucklander), which is near the top of the North Island. In the South Island (I live in Dunedin), a few people like to mock Gore/Bluff/Invercargill because they're near/are the bottom of the South Island, Gore specifically: "Gore is a bunch of inbreds"/"Gore just discovered the can opener last week! But all of this is more poking fun at each other (except the Jafa part, people are quite mean to them and I don't know why, I am from Auckland, originally. I think people just don't like the city even though Auckland is nothing compared to other places).

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#814 to #712 - combix (09/17/2015) [-]

MFW people from Auckland

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#808 to #693 - ryrynz (09/17/2015) [-]

Nah. South island is cool.

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#711 to #693 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

I mean obviously there would be

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#618 to #6 - kouzan (09/17/2015) [-]

But if a hobbit could make it through Mordor, what makes you so sure an ISIS Militant couldn't do the same?

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#704 to #618 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Cause the Hobbitsies had Sam, and he was the real hero. ISIS has no Sam, and they run silently. ISIS runs around loudly doing dumb stuff. Besides, good luck trying to get through multiple boarder securities.

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#100 to #6 - legionofmudkip has deleted their comment [-]

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#111 to #100 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Earthquakes: Yes, we're sitting on a fault line between 2 plates.
Nuclear Leaks: The Hell you talking about? No nuclear power here, son.
Floods: Yeah, but that's pretty standard. Not as bad as the Philippines.
Tsunamis: When did the last tsunami hit N.Z? There are a bunch of little Islands that can act as a buffer to tsunamis, but I don't think we're ever going to need to worry about that.
Weaboos: Maybe? I haven't actually seen any that are like the ones you see on the interwebs.
Yeah, we're actually pretty isolated.

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#257 to #111 - mariochat (09/16/2015) [-]

But earthquakes aren't bad at all.

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#423 to #257 - juventud (09/17/2015) [-]

this is good

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#203 to #111 - pallepis (09/16/2015) [-]

Earthquakes ! **** that, I'm out.

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#350 to #203 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Hah, only if you're in the South Island, really. North Island sits to the left of the fault line, so there aren't many earthquakes happening, at all.

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#308 to #111 - mangostormlegend (09/16/2015) [-]

And then you mad kiwi bastards have 90 Mile Beach

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#349 to #308 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Which is actually 88km long, so 54.6 miles.

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#419 to #349 - mangostormlegend (09/17/2015) [-]

"Wow, what a beautiful beach! It goes on for miles! We should designate it a..."
"Public highway."
"...What?"
"DID I ******* STUTTER?"

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#153 to #111 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Just one issue m8. Your internet is poop. Otherwise you Kiwis kick ass

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#156 to #153 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

I haven't experienced any other internet other than from a New Zealand provider, so, I can not confirm if N.Z's internet, does, infact suck arse.

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#367 to #153 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

what is considered good internet? I live in the north island of NZ and I get 3.6mb/s and that's on VDSL not fibre

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#115 to #111 - legionofmudkip (09/16/2015) [-]

Error on my part. I didn't read the name of the country, and i thought it was Japan. I don't know anything about New Zealand

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#288 to #115 - talpss (09/16/2015) [-]

Now is a good time to learn geography. It's fun, trust me.

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#117 to #115 - spooooce (09/16/2015) [-]

Fair call, fair call.

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#584 to #6 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

I know New Zealand still has actual Dinosaurs and I want to go there and cuddle one of them they so damn cute look at them

Critter's called a Tuatara

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#706 to #584 - spooooce (09/17/2015) [-]

Just don't touch their tails, they might detach it and you will have a Tuatara with no tail. It grows back though, which is cool. And look at those back spines! A stegosaurus and a gecko got a bit feisty one day.

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#424 to #6 - hugsta (09/17/2015) [-]

praise be unto Australia's Canada

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#88 - kaboomz (09/16/2015) [-]

SAVE US AMERICA
IM SORRY I MADE FUN OF YOUR WEIGHT AND GUNS LAWS
PLEASE EXTERMINATE THIS PLAGUE FOR WE ARE TOO ******* RETARDED TO HANDLE ON OUR OWN

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#489 to #88 - theruse (09/17/2015) [-]

No, no, no, you guys had your jollies, now we'll have ours.

Have a nice time ******* yourself. And it's not like it matters anyway, Obama won't do **** about it, he's a little pussy ass bitch.

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#289 to #88 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

america can't even solve his own immigrant problems how could they save eu

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#316 to #289 - priestoftheoldones (09/16/2015) [-]

Mexicans do work and integrate into American society and culture, Muslims and those refugees come and tell everyone to integrate into their culture, the same culture that made them flee.

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#348 to #316 - thejjmax (09/16/2015) [-]

It's a sad time when I admit I'd rather have Juan take over my California than deal with Muhammad.

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#750 to #348 - priestoftheoldones (09/17/2015) [-]

You don't need to worry about Mexicans, you need to worry about those ******* fires, dude.

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#353 to #348 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Yeah, Juan... Who was here before your bitch ass came over on the Mayflower...
Good one

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#355 to #353 - thejjmax (09/16/2015) [-]

Hey man I didn't climb over any fences to get here, I was just born here.....

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#661 to #353 - fjkabob (09/17/2015) [-]

lol how could spanish have lived in the america before the spanish you *******

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#870 to #316 - Jowi (09/17/2015) [-]

What proof do you have of this? Have you ever lived in a highly Muslim area? I lived in Cardiff for 3 years and Muslims are just like anyone else. Some are cunts, some aren't.

Don't generalise

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#800 to #289 - xsap (09/17/2015) [-]

who mexicans? most mexicans are hard working people and follow the law. these human garbages don't

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#105 to #88 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

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#207 to #88 - jewbob (09/16/2015) [-]

Ask Russia, we're taking them too. Trump thinks we have to even if it's dumb, Paul probably wants to take them because libertarians tend to hate borders, Jeb is a secret Mexican that would want to take double, and the Democrats are all socialists that would want to take them anyways. You're ****** , buddy.

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#376 to #207 - starlordoriginal (09/16/2015) [-]

*whispers the sweet name of Ben Carson into your ears*

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#396 to #376 - devilsquirrel (09/16/2015) [-]

And even more stupid sayings, like if we taught real US history it would make kids go fight for ISIS

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#187 to #88 - flynox (09/16/2015) [-]

this is funny because it's basically europe in a nutshell right now

"s-s-s-sorry a-america-sama!! p-please save us!!"

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#252 to #187 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

funny how you think america 'saved' europe

Brits/Canadians saved WW1
Russians saved WW2

The only thing mericans are good at is joining in late and carpet bombing everything safely. When merica starts its own wars merica get ********** by Vietnamese rainforest plebs and Iraqi *********** .

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#292 to #252 - talpss (09/16/2015) [-]

Okay, I guess America isn't saving Europe. Have fun getting bombed by militant Islamists.

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#277 to #88 - alexandervascus (09/16/2015) [-]

It's OK love, we never hated you, we laughed at your stereotype of us. It was funny

But now it's time for business, now let's see if our government does something... Any second now

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#751 to #277 - toxicwarning (09/17/2015) [-]

There's no oil in the refugees, go back.

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#170 to #88 - failtolawl (09/16/2015) [-]

America is getting 60,000 immigrants.

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#173 to #170 - kaboomz (09/16/2015) [-]

ITS SPREADING
ONLY PUTIN CAN SAVE US NOW

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#415 to #173 - spartantoaster ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

calm down, we have a ridiculous amount of space, the most powerful economy in the world, a sacrilegious amount of defense spending on top enough guns to arm everyone, and to top it all off the patriotism here is so strong anyone who tries to live under shira law will get slammed so hard by literally thousands from every direction. Not to mention most of the people brought here are keep a close eye on or had papers. essentially we are a fortress inside a larger fortress surrounded by other fortress with fortresses inside them.

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#863 to #415 - afonzi (09/17/2015) [-]

You're right about the patriotism and the gun laws, but your economy is very fragile, as is the world's. Any major negative event will create speculation and crash the economy, just look at China's stock market plummet. If you accept a lot of refugees, which I hope you will, it will damage your economy slightly I believe. But due to your patriotism, you guys are safe when it comes to sharia law and those ******** muslim ways they try to impose on Europe regularly.

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#809 to #415 - taniv (09/17/2015) [-]

I live in Calgary Canada which is a pretty big hub for Muslim immigrants and I've never once heard anyone mention "Sharia Law" here. I have no idea why other countries have that issue. Maybe Canada just has a bigot filter on; I mean we don't allow the Westboro Baptists to protest against military funerals in our country so that's gotta have something to do with it

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#179 to #173 - failtolawl (09/16/2015) [-]

Considering America took in 80,000 refugees in 2010 from Myanmar, and has a quota of 70,000 per year... it doesn't matter nor has it ever mattered.

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#398 to #170 - devilsquirrel (09/16/2015) [-]

GODMANIT! They can stay in Florida

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#576 to #398 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

They wouldn't survive.

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#672 to #576 - devilsquirrel (09/17/2015) [-]

thats poiny and maybe they will take out some of the nut jobs down there

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#191 to #170 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Well, we take in about 70K per year, but hopefully well get a better president soon.

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#204 to #191 - failtolawl (09/16/2015) [-]

I agree, 70k is not enough.

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#708 to #170 - dasbrot (09/17/2015) [-]

[citation needed]

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#598 to #88 - thesuperintendent (09/17/2015) [-]

mfw they will destroy the homeland of the burger
Were coming

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#152 to #88 - tehwheelman (09/16/2015) [-]

Fear not my poor eurofag, Use the murica' method and just eat the kebabs..... you may need to deepfry those first...

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#378 to #88 - Snowplows (09/16/2015) [-]

But really, if it was up to me, I'd send you some guns.

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#564 to #378 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

They'd probably throw them right to the enemy to shoot them with anyway.

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#140 to #88 - toohntown (09/16/2015) [-]

build big fences

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#456 to #88 - lesolan (09/17/2015) [-]

"No."

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#121 to #88 - wootsauce (09/16/2015) [-]

The citizens of America stand with you! Our government?? Nope.

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#700 to #88 - checkemninja ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

We tried to exterminate as many sand ******* as we could,but then a regular ****** became president and said hurting islam is bad.If bush was president we would probably help you,but we have ********** right now so our hands are unfortunately tied

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#844 to #700 - enlightednatzie ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Haha, " ****** ". I cant believe you just said the word " ****** " like that! So brave and revolutional! Truly a big uprising to the society and a big middlefinger in the presidents black face! You sir, are truly the enlightened leader of this revolutionary war that will come.

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#464 to #88 - victhree (09/17/2015) [-]

Oh, because you've dealt with Mexicans so well in the last decade.

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#607 to #464 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Thing is, you can go to any agricultural center and actually see them working.

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#779 to #607 - victhree (09/17/2015) [-]

Thing is, Mexicabs come specifically to get better work. These people are fleeing from a place where they can't work. Do you think the ones in the Turkish camp are working their assess off? No they aren't, because there isn't work to do. 50% of them are children and wounded men. All they can do is wait for the war to end and hope ISIS doesn't cross over the border to slaughter them. Most of the ones who come to Europe are, in fact, looking for a fair job to have a normal life. But we don't have enough jobs for a quarter million people.

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#676 to #88 - AnomynousUser (09/17/2015) [-]

We'll send in our Ivan.

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#155 to #88 - severepwner (09/16/2015) [-]

It's not over yet. There is still time.

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#45 - lennylorenzo (09/16/2015) [-]

Glad i have ocean-sized moats keeping Syrian immigrants out

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#384 to #45 - catpisseverdeen (09/16/2015) [-]

Except we have a ******* bleeding heart activist for a presidents. He wants to accept 10,000 Syrian immigrants.

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#529 to #384 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

oh darn, a whole 10,000, out of how many millions?

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#542 to #529 - notafunnyguy (09/17/2015) [-]

10,000 will turn to 100,000 before you know it. and if isis is among them, and america has just been bombing overseas and never putting troops on the ground, you can imagine what isis will do once they get their troops on your soil. destroying america is their main goal, and main recruitment propaganda

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#635 to #542 - rustypotato (09/17/2015) [-]

i hope ISIS tries to come here in mass and overthrow the government. they would be wiped out by nightfall.

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#865 to #635 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

How about that, the CIA had a hand in creating and supporting the rise of ISIS: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq Why am I not surprised?

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#551 to #542 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

that's literally the slippery slope argument, guess what, here in Maine we had a huge influx of Somalian refugees, guess how much crime they brought? so little it didn't even upset our reputation as the second safest state, but there could have been pirates among them, who are also extremely barbaric in their actions

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#727 to #551 - shootemup (09/17/2015) [-]

Woo maine pride swell with old rich people!

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#792 to #727 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

don't forget drastically different political leanings more than most states depending on area, and an accent almost as dumb as a Bostonian one

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#794 to #792 - shootemup (09/17/2015) [-]

or maines horrible drug habits!

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#795 to #794 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

yet we're so much better than Massachusetts... apparently... I mean if we ignore Bangor exists, we're a great state

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#798 to #795 - shootemup (09/17/2015) [-]

ignore bangher and lewiston

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#861 to #551 - afonzi (09/17/2015) [-]

Well I guess the trip froom Somalia to the US isn't worth for a pirate, as the USA is kinda overpowered and the pirate would have no chance to pillage and rape. But if you look at Europe and ISIS, it is in ISIS' best interest to plant as many sleepers they can, so in a few years time they can do something big. They already have plans for Portugal and Spain, amongst other countries.

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#558 to #551 - notafunnyguy (09/17/2015) [-]

your state neighbours my province, new brunswick.

i cant argue the future, because i cant see the future. all i know is something needs to be done to filter isis from the refugees. thats where things get tricky.

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#617 to #558 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

nothing needs to be done. any isis militant that wants in could get in illegally all they ******* wanted already. The US isnt some big inpenetrable shield where immigration laws stop people who want in no matter what

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#566 to #558 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

trust me, NSA will end up over filtering "that person's mildly suspicious!" -sent to Guantanamo-

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#677 to #542 - unclelunchbox (09/17/2015) [-]

Isis doing any real damage to America? Yeah, good ******* luck

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#769 to #45 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

I'm happy for you, while my country is run over by barbarians, yours isn't taking **** in. But that's okay, it's not like the USED started the Iraq war, denounced the Assad regime and delivered weapons to rebels. And funded the sons of Iraq who later became ISIS. I'll send Bush and Obama a nice card thanking them for this grand opportunity.

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#161 to #45 - appleisland (09/16/2015) [-]

If you guys had benefits,it wouldn't keep 'em out

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#185 to #161 - badgatewayerror (09/16/2015) [-]

well this would probably help keep them out

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#201 to #161 - zombiejew (09/16/2015) [-]

my guns would

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#381 to #161 - starlordoriginal (09/16/2015) [-]

>implying the retarded US welfare system doesn't give out free benefits without even checking to see if they're illegal immigrants (not that they'd stop if they did)

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#294 to #45 - datsheriff ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

Actually, I think we're supposed to get some, as well..

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#139 to #45 - toohntown (09/16/2015) [-]

Makes the mexicans not look that bad

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#293 to #139 - talpss (09/16/2015) [-]

The Mexicans at least work hard for the most part. They don't come here expecting benefits just because they're Mexican, at least.

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#309 to #293 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Yeah that attitude generally transcends race. The 'pop more babies out because more welfare' type of person exists all over

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#33 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

OH I really wish you ************* would fact check, I really really do...

the Majority of the Refugees have actually Fled to Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey and IRAQ. ******* Iraq, it's so bad in Syria they're running to iraq.

In total, 63,170 resettlement places have been offered globally since the start of the Syria crisis, which equates to a mere 1.7 per cent of the total population of Syrian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Turkey.

more than 50% of all Refugees are Children.

close to 200,000 people have died as a result of the conflict in Syria, It's worse than having 9/11 happen every month for 5 years!

ISIS may be trying to get into Europe amongst the refugees, That may be so, But should we really be willing to let thousands and thousands of men, women and CHILDREN Die, because we're Scared of ISIS? Is that the Attitude our Military forces had when Liberating Iraq? Did they think I'm not going to risk my life for that of a Foreigner? no of course not and to be so willing to let people in another country die because you're worried about your safety then you're undermining everything they do. If we behave like that then ISIS have already won.

www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/12/facts-figures-syria-refugee-crisis-international-resettlement/

www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/

www.mercycorps.org/articles/turkey-iraq-jordan-lebanon-syria/quick-facts-what-you-need-know-about-syria-crisis

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#328 to #33 - NutHut ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

This place is a propaganda machine anyway. I don't trust anything here.
I don't even trust you tbh

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#341 to #328 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

Do your own research and come to your own Conclusion then

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#804 to #33 - xsap (09/17/2015) [-]

idc if they die or not. stay out of my country

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#873 to #33 - afonzi (09/17/2015) [-]

So you're telling me that I have to make my own life, my loved ones and my country worse so that Muhammad and Abdul can eat some food and drink some water, and get a good night's sleep? Oh and if they don't like the water or the bread, they can just throw it away and ask for something different. **** them, I have no sympathy for them. I know this is a harsh POV but in these times we have to be ego-centric, and think about ourselves.

Instead of allowing them to get to our borders, we should make sure that they stay around their native country and support them from our home. That allows us to stay stable whilst providing assistance. I know this isn't the most humanitarian way to help, but at least only 1 or 2 countries get ****** , instead of an entire continent.

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#426 to #33 - TheBobby ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

The difference is that when the military fights ISIS they do it on ISIS's turf. Why the **** would they want them to enter their country and destroy it? Huge difference.

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#597 to #33 - rockerforlife (09/17/2015) [-]

STICKY THIS

OP is rightist faggot

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#265 to #33 - macacobr (09/16/2015) [-]

Your soul is noble, sir.

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#487 to #33 - victhree (09/17/2015) [-]

I have nothing to add to this comment. Just a round of applause.

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#151 to #33 - confusedasian (09/16/2015) [-]

Causing riots and destroying **** , basically biting the hand that feeds is pretty asshole behavior don't you think? They're being offered help and yet all I keep hearing about and seeing is riots, stealing, and other **** .

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#192 to #151 - aheael (09/16/2015) [-]

Yes. You hear about it because the minority who causes that will have the most attraction from the media. Ever heard of the expression, the minority with the loud voice is always heard?

You really gonna think bad of the whole general amount of refugees just because you seen some do riots and **** ? Come on man.

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#260 to #192 - confusedasian (09/16/2015) [-]

You mean like how media portrays them as special needs kids basically? A lot of that bad stuff doesn't go published from news sites. The news shows them as people that need help, the people living in those countries are stating otherwise. The minority may be the loudest, but I don't think that is the case here if so many users living there are complaining about this stuff pretty much daily.

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#368 to #260 - kellorkleft ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

Since when has the populace any country ever not been resistant to foreigners coming into their land? Mexican immigrants were blamed for the US's economic state, Irish immigrants were treated harshly before that, Jewish immigrants have always been slandered across the world. There's an air of truth that waves of immigration cause a ripple, but as always people are protective to what they deem as what belongs to them and overblow the **** out of it. It's an unpleasant chain reaction that causes paranoia and xenophobia among people who are directly affected and rely on the media for their information, and it's unfortunate because it's highly unnecessary.

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#958 to #260 - aheael (09/17/2015) [-]

Hahaha I'm sorry but man if you're gonna talk users, I gotta say something really obvious and double-edged. It's the internet. You really gonna take anyone's word on it here that easily?

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#962 to #958 - confusedasian (09/18/2015) [-]

No, but you could say the exact same thing with media. Are you going to take their word for it?

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#966 to #962 - aheael (09/18/2015) [-]

that's why I don't watch the news. it's kinda obvious that their's bias and own political agendas nowadays.

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#206 to #33 - testaburger (09/16/2015) [-]

lol **** them.

I'd rather have their entire country die off than **** up my country's economy.

**** them

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#637 to #206 - garymotherfingoak (09/17/2015) [-]

so let millions die to avoid a 1 year recession.

got it.

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#919 to #206 - sillybee (09/17/2015) [-]

This is how nazi germany managed to do what it did, because of people like you.

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#296 to #33 - talpss (09/16/2015) [-]

No matter the circumstance, this isn't the way to do it. For example of really bad ways to solve really bad problems, no matter how bad or evil a country is, nuking them to pieces doesn't fix anything. Letting immigrants into European countries and trashing anything they can get their grubby hands on is like dropping a domestic nuke. The problem is serious, but destroying order in other countries probably won't fix it that much. I just get the feeling that letting disorder and chaos rampage over the Balkans is just a really bad idea.

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#810 to #33 - taniv (09/17/2015) [-]

I live in a Canada in a city that's pretty much a hub for Muslim immigration and never once have heard the words "Sharia Law" here. Not in political discourse or from a Muslim or from a fearful Christian or in any context. I don't understand the fear

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#159 to #33 - saintlich (09/16/2015) [-]

The Islamic culture is the problem that the world is facing. The majority aren't trying to invade, the extremist's and those seeking a better life are. Now you can't blame someone wanting a better life, but when you want to break the laws, cause chaos then you won't get anyone's support, well you shouldn't at least. Oh and we don't mind fighting Isis, we do mind them terrorizing the people we want to defend. Though i agree he is using media style tactics so are you, mentioning 9/11, the fact that children are dying despite most children aren't making that trek as good parents will accept low living standards over risking death getting to the UK.

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#205 to #159 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Dude, shut the **** up. You don't know jack **** about what you're talking about.

Either you actually get an education or you don't talk out of your asshole.

You. Don't. Know. **** .

Stop talking.

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#433 to #205 - arteries (09/17/2015) [-]

sand ****** detected

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#314 to #33 - wimwam (09/16/2015) [-]

Not let them die, but screen them. Sanded fingerprints? Turn back around. History of military extremism? Back on the bus. Destructive behavior? Out of luck.

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#318 to #314 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

i'm sure they're doing that, or at least trying.

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#40 to #33 - stinkyhat (09/16/2015) [-]

Then we should help them there, not let them walz into our countries. But hey, cheap labor, new voters etc. etc.

And no, I'm not scared of ISIS, I don't live in a country they will flood to, but I am scared of their culture and what mass migration of uneducated people will lead to. You and OP act as if ISIS is the only problem.

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#849 to #40 - toensix ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

www.goteborgdaily.se/high-education-levels-among-syrian-refugees-1 Bruh

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#872 to #33 - cptsweatpants (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah.... That's nice and all. Now look at the waves pouring into Europe and tell me over 50 percent of them are children and their only worry is getting somewhere safe...

I aggree, there absolutely ARE real refugees out of Syria, but the majority of those is in Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon or Turkey, they fled to protect their families (over 50 percent children) and they probably wanna come back one day. And we definitely need to send help to those people, if you ask me we should send in a battlegroup or two and put ISIS in it's place, might actually save us money in the long run, but that's irrelevant.

Yes there are refugees in the middle east. Yes, we need to help them out. But, not here, they don't belong here. And the ones coming as far as here are no refugees in the first place. And I am aware that there might be some good people in the waves crossing Hungary and landing in Italy and France. But they made their decision when they decided to try and come here. And now we need to make ours, Life is all about dem tough decisions. Europe and it's countries needs to first and foremost protect the well-being of it's citizens.

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#320 to #33 - tealcanaan (09/16/2015) [-]

>50% children
Says here 72% men, kek

data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

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#337 to #320 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

so you find 1 that's different to mine and that automatically makes mine wrong? Nope, let me explain.

50% of ALL of the refugees are Children, However 72% of the Refugees currently escaping to Europe are men, Children cannot make the long, life-threatening journey into Europe, It stands to Reason, that many of the men fleeing to Europe are Fathers. Find a safe prosperous country and then look for safe passage for their family.

the % of Refugees in Europe is still VERY SMALL the majority as stated are in Neighbouring Arab nations

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#342 to #337 - tealcanaan (09/16/2015) [-]

Europe is what matters, why should I give a damn about what happens outside the western world? They are no kin to me, they share no value or culture similar to me so I think they should turn to their kin, not us, they want our wealth, not safety, safety was in Turkey, SA, Egypt, etc., benefits are here. **** them.

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#345 to #342 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

because they are also Human Beings? jesus man show some compassion!

Also if you read my post properly you'd know that you're absolutely right Safety is in Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon etc abd that's why almost ALL of the are there!

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#583 to #345 - technobanana (09/17/2015) [-]

I wouldn't try and talk sense to people its red thumb central. But its true saying that they don't matter because they are not from the west is digusting. Do they not realize that a majority of the **** happening over there is due to our actions the west... **** sakes

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#351 to #345 - tealcanaan (09/16/2015) [-]

Then why do we need to take them in? Also what does them being human have to do with it, do i owe them a debt beyond not killing them unless provoked and not taking their property? Do we owe every person severely impoverished, possibly facing starvation, a place in our society our ancestors built? Do you not understand just how may people are in a place like them? Why do they deserve more than what we give to the Congolese child? **** off, they can have food aid shipped to them in Turkey, they have no place in Germany.

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#359 to #351 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

i don't think you realise the Severity of their situation....They're not fleeing out of Poverty or Poorness, they are fleeing from ******* WAR. They don't deserve more than a starving Congolese child, both deserve help, The majority of us in Europe have so much and yet are will to give so little....

what are you so afraid of? What are people like you so against helping others in need because they are from the middle east? Many of these refugees are well Educated and more than likely will benefit society.

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#363 to #359 - tealcanaan (09/16/2015) [-]

I'm afraid they will never leave, which hey most likely won't, I'm afraid they aren't us and will form insular communities with the massive amounts coming in, which they will. I'm afraid our social services will fall apart under the strain, they will. I'm afraid we will become France with an Islamist attack or attempted attack monthly. Again, they go to an Islamist nation and we'll send food aid, we don't need them here, they don't need to be here, there's no war in ******* Turkey.

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#815 to #359 - icedcarbon (09/17/2015) [-]

Oh no It would not help society at all.

-They are escaping war, they have so many other places they can go, they choose Europe for an easier life, not just for the sake of simply escaping war, they will be part of the reason for economic decline. MOST of them do not adapt to the ways of life of another culture and will demand laws/rules to change to the ways they're used to, which is wrong, if you're going to go abroad, you either live the way the people of that country live, or live the way you want as long as it doesn't breach customs/laws/rules of that country, which for Islam would be possible if the people ******* followed their stupid koran properly, which no one ******* does, hence it's impossible for anything good to come out of this immigration influx;
-There's the terrorism threat;
-It has been seen these muslim immigrants killing their fellow christian immigrants, pushing them off the boats;
-They are escaping war, yet they are behaving like the barbarian invasion of the 5th century;
-There are no jobs for them here, most of them would be living from benefits for a long time, those with families of at least 3 or 4 would be given a ******* HOUSE, if you don't know what that means, I'll tell you... it means NOT paying RENT, they'd be living comfortably almost like royalty, while I'm here with a sick mother, both working 12 hours shifts everyday, with 4 hours travel (16 hours a day of life lost) paying £1100 of rent for a ****** house (£1100 rent alone, this doesn't include the rest of the bills, water, electricity, gas, food, council tax average of £1800 every month), while these people would be living of mine and millions of other citizens taxes who deserve much better.

Solutions?
-Boats in the Mediterranean should be told to turn back by the navies currently rescuing these animals, under threat of being sunk, or on the evil side, they should just be sunk, no one would ever hear from them, or know they existed;
-Completely close EU borders to the outside (that is Croatia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece to close borders in Turkey and the surrounded countries in the Baltic... these non EU baltic countries can do whatever they want to the people who have crossed and are attempting to keep going and Spain (Melilla and Ceuta). Fence jumpers would be under threat of being fired upon;
-Round the ******* who are already in EU into concentration camps, screen them 1 by one carefully to see who could go in or not (Mostly women and children would pass for sure), the ones that don't pass would remain in the camp until a solution is found (1 would be to simply deport them back to where they came from);
-Open up screening outposts in the borders, anymore "refugees" that wished to pass, would have to go through these, if rejected, oh well tough luck, they have plenty of other places to go.

They are willing to risk death for a long journey to Europe, well **** , their own ******* problem, they could have chosen a closer place, like many of their kin who are resettling in their surrounding countries.

If we wanted them, it would be easier, but we don't, they should not force that on us, it's gonna be worse for them. Governments are trying to to let them in in some way, but no one realizes governments are not the "people" and the "people" don't want them.

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#322 to #320 - tealcanaan (09/16/2015) [-]

Also your numbers are all ****** according to this.

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#393 to #33 - bothemastaofall (09/16/2015) [-]

Yes! Yes you should let them die if that were the only alternative. They are not more important than your lifestyle. They are not more important than your tax dollar. They are not more important than your country.
Do you think they will leave? Do you seriously think they are capable of helping your country? Why do you need their help? Your country is fine without them, and can only be hurt by them. There is only risk in letting them in. No reward other than Gods imaginary smiles.

Idiots like you value human life way more than you should. These immigrants are terroristic leeches at worst and inconvenient at best. They are incapable of solving their own problems and so run to you to save them, despite having done nothing to earn your kindness.

And who pays the price? Your economy and your children. Muslims hate your lifestyle and your country, yet hold their palms out and expect kindness, while rioting and throwing feces at your elderly.

I'm hardworking, I pay taxes, and I've worked for everything I own and will be damned before liberal parasites steal my sweat and give it to people who act like black holes; constantly absorbing, never returning.

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#462 to #393 - zenler (09/17/2015) [-]

yeah the ******* should be deported with military training and fight their civil war
or go back to their country and get trained/armed by the russians

either way the vast majority are pussies

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#168 to #33 - asugar (09/16/2015) [-]

People die all the time.

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#921 to #168 - drekinn (09/17/2015) [-]

And it's sad, if you think the inevitability of death means life is meaningless and murder is okay, you need to see a shrink.

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#213 to #33 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

The numbers you are using are "registered" Syrian refugees. It's not "actual" immigration from Syria. So for the point of this debate, those numbers are worthless.

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#829 to #33 - newdevyx (09/17/2015) [-]

Doesn't matter, they still spread the plague that is called Islam.

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#107 to #33 - tweda (09/16/2015) [-]

Regardless of the actual numbers and regardless of whether we're overblowing them or underblowing them, Hungary is still in a state of emergency due to immigrants everywhere, there are still loads of them going to Europe and its still causing problems.
Europe can't simply afford having a few million immigrant refugees enter, it's not feasble to have a sudden boost in homeless, ID-less, and probably penniless people over a short time period

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#482 to #107 - victhree (09/17/2015) [-]

Do you know Hungary? The way they've dealt with the refugees is a ******* joke, they're treating them like vermin. I honestly can't take their announcement seriously. While we're at it, the camps in the surrounding countries aren't too good. Don't take me wrong, it's great to see them accepting these innocents in distress, but they're overpopulated and have problems providing water and food. What can the refugees do? The Balkans won't take them in, and most other countries in the area are just as ****** with the ISIS situation. If you were homeless and someone were nice enough to let you stay at their place while you searched for a job, you'd accept.

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#717 to #33 - nagafever (09/17/2015) [-]

jesus christ what kinda big-ass population do they got? and why the **** aren't the remaining "few" staying with the others?

People have been videotaping these niglets in europe showing and saying that there's almost no kids or women with them.

I'm from norway and i thought all people in the world were white untill i was like 11 years old.
When i was a kid, if a murder happened, the entirety of norway would hear about it and mourn in unison. Now, after taking in all these ************* We read about rape and murder in the paper daily and we don't even bother checking who it is, what happened etc. We know it's always some sort of ****** and for whatever reason we don't care. And now we want more of them here? Why?

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#298 to #33 - mexicanfood (09/16/2015) [-]

So what do you propose? Just let any brown skinned person from the middle east into europe free of charge without any registration and or background check? The main concern of any country should be the well being of its own people.

If I was a leader of Europe I wouldn;t let a single muslim ******** refugee into my country because I'll be damned if I let the blood of my people be spilled. This is a middle eastern problem that should be dealt with only middle eastern countries

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#305 to #298 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

that's sad, so happy to let your fellow man die. I wonder though if you were born into a country ravaged by Civil war and extremists and you'd lost your home and loved ones, that you'd still hold the same point of view?

I don't know what the answer is, but i don't think letting people die is it.

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#317 to #305 - mexicanfood (09/16/2015) [-]

These people aren't my "fellow man" You also never answered my question WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE? Should we let any person from the middle east into any country they want? That's how terrorists, criminals, rapists, and degenerates get into a country.

Are there well to do people among these 'refugees?' Yes, there are. Therefore refugees should be let in if proper background checks are done and they have the necessary registration. Among these so called 'refugees' are people who dont have anything to their name that dump food given to them by european food aid, defecate on the buses that transport their broke ass to Europe, harass border towns people.

Life is cruel and unfair, this is an indisputable fact and this fact will not change you can't save them all.

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#324 to #317 - jimmycrank (09/16/2015) [-]

like I said I don't know what the Answer is.....but turning everyone away isn't it.

How can you do a background check on someone that has nothing? I agree we should be careful and do what we can.

again i wonder if your viewpoint would be "well life is cruel and unfair oh well" if the shoe was on the other foot

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#346 to #324 - mexicanfood (09/16/2015) [-]

>I don't know what the answer is, but this guy who proposed one is certainly wrong.

If they dont have any background information then tough luck, life isn't fair they probably will die by next week then.

"again i wonder if your viewpoint would be "well life is cruel and unfair oh well" if the shoe was on the other foot"

This is where personal opinions differ, you assume the person in question will do no harm, will contribute towards society and assimilate into its culture without any problem whatsoever.

I will assume someone who can't provide the most basic forms of ID has something to hide, won't provide any benefit to the country, and most likely is concealing their identity in order to do harm to the DOCUMENTED citizens of the country they are trying to get in.

Your method assumes the risk of the harm and or death of your own people, mine does not. If you would like to be responsible for the harm and deaths of well to do citizens of your country (this will happen if this method is taken which it already has) then so be it, I prefer methods that include guaranteed safety for a group of people.

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#859 to #346 - shaddyz (09/17/2015) [-]

just ******* hope the situation dont turn around for whatever reason and you are forced to flee to these contrys

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#579 to #33 - hexadecimated (09/17/2015) [-]

There are thousands of men, but hardly any women or children.
Mercy is for the weak. Mercy is going to get you and your countrymen killed you spineless faggot. Kill them all, let God sort them out.

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#639 to #579 - garymotherfingoak (09/17/2015) [-]

edg

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#599 to #33 - kurbeh (09/17/2015) [-]

I am a lucky bastard than was born in a good country and I spend my entire time studying for university, playing games and jacking off.
I like it this way and want to keep it. These guys are on their own, I am selfish and I don't care about them.

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#852 to #33 - gonzta (09/17/2015) [-]

I'm personally not afraid of ISIS being among the refugees, however I do not like the idea of us HAVING to take in refugees, our welfare systems arent designed for this, a lot of our social policies can't handle a sudden flow of immigrants, (not to mention the economy gradually sliding down the ******* as well) all expecting the same treatment as those who've lived in this country (Finland, and yes I know there's not a whole lot here, yet at least.) for all their lives.

And, honestly, (Christ this is gonna sound edgy, but I'm just being honest.) I've no compassion towards them, just can't feel it even if I tried. I would much rather preserve our old style of life we've held up unless it's absolutely necessary for it to change, and as I see it, it isn't absolutely necessary for us to take in a single refugee. We had nothing to do with the war going on in their country, we are under no obligation to take care of them.

I sometimes wonder if I'm racist, but I think (can never be a 100% certain) I'd have the same opinion even if they looked just like us, they still wouldn't be the same as us.

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#853 to #852 - gonzta (09/17/2015) [-]

Looked and behaved just like us**

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#175 to #33 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Oh no, think of the CHILDREN!

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#366 to #33 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

They were following orders bro

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#855 to #33 - Airmanator ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Hate me, but I'll say it: It's not our problem and we shouldn't be guilt tripped into taking in a large influx of immigrants just because they're escaping their war-torn countries.

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#84 to #33 - bluerangermartin (09/16/2015) [-]

51% are syrian, 72% are men, 15% are children and 13% are children according to the UN refugee agency

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#128 to #84 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

And the German ministry of internal affairs estimates that the number of refugees in Berlin alone will be closer to 900,000 by december this year.

OP's 61,000 is way off..

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#1 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

inb4 SJW cucks call you a "filthy racist" or post content crying about how "evil and extreme" FJ has become

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#79 to #1 - formeranony (09/16/2015) [-]

Say man, i agree with the SJW, but whats with cuck being used as an insult these days. My sexual perversions have nawt **** to do with my politcal or personal opinions

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#178 to #79 - mranldestroyer (09/16/2015) [-]

**** off cuck

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#138 to #79 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Congratulations you're mind is so ****** up on porn that regular sex can't get you off and you have to watch your partner get ****** to get off

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#149 to #138 - formeranony (09/16/2015) [-]

Probably. Yeah.

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#600 to #149 - enlightednatzie ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

So, can i **** your partner?

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#166 to #79 - congthea (09/16/2015) [-]

because cucks are pathetic. You really have to see someone else ******* your loved ones to get off?

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#286 to #166 - Mortuus (09/16/2015) [-]

Definitely not my fetish, but... If it isn't hurting anyone, I mean... It's not really our problem.

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#786 to #286 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

When their kid sees Mommy hanging out with her "special friends," and picks up on the submissiveness/passivity that their family structure puts out, it's going to completely **** with their mental state. Especially since the parents have to lie about what's going on or even hide the entire thing (which kids will pick up on quickly) due to the inappropriate nature of the arrangement.

It's not your everyday average sexual fetish. It's a polygamous relationship, which humans are not adapted to. Look up the data if you don't believe me (from actual scientists, not the magazine articles trying to justify polygamy by purposely misinterpreting the facts).

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#790 to #786 - Mortuus (09/17/2015) [-]

That's entirely a different matter. If they are parents and engaging in a polygamous relationship in such an obvious way that the child(ren) notice(s), then that's a parenting fault. Their lack of judgement wasn't caused by the relationship, it was a lack of thought.

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#653 to #286 - enlightednatzie ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah, some people on this very site have said that they have rape fetishes. Im just gonna smear my **** all over the dinner table and say that yeah, cuckolding are probably one of the tamer and easier-to-live-with-if-your-parents-caught-you fetish. Not saying i am into cuckolding but some people **** animals or dead people.

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#221 to #166 - Shiny ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

Being offended by things that don't harm anyone have a term. It's called "political correctness"

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#225 to #221 - congthea (09/16/2015) [-]

>what is an insult

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#229 to #225 - Shiny ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

In political discussion, an admission of wrongness.

Funnyjunk is the new Tumblr

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#287 to #229 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

>you insulted me that means you're wrong! I win me debate!

Keep telling yourself that champ.

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#312 to #287 - Shiny ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

"If you disagree ur an SJW kuk"

lel

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#332 to #312 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

Cool strawman m8
Gotta protect that ego, right?

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#427 to #332 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

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#521 to #427 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

I was specifically referring to the SJW cucks that see content like this and throw a ******* hissy fit about how "evil and racist and bigoted FJ is becoming!" for discussing a very real problem.

It's not really my problem that your delicate ego is shattered at the mention of SJW cucks acting like pathetic retards.

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#627 to #521 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Except for the multiple replies to the picture about how OP is full of **** ? As in, with actual evidence, instead of emotional appeal?

"SJW cuck" is a pretty obvious dysphemism for "person who disagrees with me".

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#640 to #627 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Apparently "You're an ignorant racist evil bigot WHERE ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO!?!?!?!" counts as "Actual evidence"

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#648 to #640 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

You are an awful person. Enjoy dying alone!

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#651 to #648 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>getting this butthurt over an opinion

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#654 to #651 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Lying about facts is not an opinion.

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#656 to #654 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Who was lying?

I was talking about the faggots crying over how "evil and racist and bigoted FJ is becoming!!!!!" because of posts like this.

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#669 to #656 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

OP intentionally took quotes out of context to push his own agenda, like the comment about twenty housand of the refugees possibly being ISIS agents, which is an impossibility if their membership hasn't doubled literally overnight.

If this site was getting bigoted, that would actually be better, because at least bigots can have their own opinions. It's just parroting what /pol/ *********** say without thinking about it. If you think this is "SJW" speak, you are pretty far up your own ass.

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#673 to #669 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>It's just parroting what /pol/ *********** say without thinking about it.
>If you have the same opinion as a person I don't like, then you're just doing it because the person I don't like did it!

And I'm supposed to be the one "up my own ass"

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#688 to #673 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

I care about saying I don't care. That isn't contradictory.

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#684 to #673 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

I do care, though, about telling you that I do not care about your opinions, because you and OP are idiots.

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#686 to #684 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

So, you lied to me?
That's not very paragon.

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#681 to #673 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

I support gay marriage and gun rights. When people ******** about that instead of sharing funny **** , I get annoyed, too.

No one cares about your opinions. Even if they share them.

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#683 to #681 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>"No one cares about your opinions!"
>This entire comment thread exists

Sure, bud.

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#744 to #648 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

jujuface is one of the biggest idiots on fj right now and you discredit yourself by linking to his retard rant

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#306 to #166 - formeranony (09/16/2015) [-]

Does being attracted to someone else, makes you any less attracted to the person your in love with?

Ill take my red thumbs like a man, no signing out here.

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#394 to #306 - congthea (09/16/2015) [-]

*attracted to someone else ******* the one you love, better than you can. it's pathetic

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#224 to #79 - fuckyouthatswhy (09/16/2015) [-]

"muh cuck porn, it's for intelectuals only!"

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#867 to #79 - ExorArgus ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Basically you are a passive bitch with no spine who would be the kind of guy to watch their partner get railed. . Its not that you are even a cuck. you act like one.

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#263 to #79 - fiskars (09/16/2015) [-]

cuck is le epic leddit meme. its just cancer, ignore it.

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#282 to #79 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

Cuck is an insult because it implies you're a bitch that let's his girlfriend **** other dudes because "muh feminism"

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#354 to #282 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

No matter what you decide to define it as it's still just "Couple where one part is monogamous and the other sleeps around"
Could just as well be that the cuckold chooses people

And it's not gender based. You're a cuck if your girl ***** girls, and apparently that's something plenty people would want

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#304 to #282 - formeranony (09/16/2015) [-]

Ive been in an open relationship, I don't see how that makes me a bitch. Cause I was def' poundin down strange just as she was. But whatever dude, hate me if it makes ya feel good.

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#334 to #304 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

Let me guess, it was her idea, right?

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#652 to #334 - formeranony (09/17/2015) [-]

It was a term we agreed to make it work in the first place. Because we were both casually ******* other people at the time you see. Or did college just suck for you?

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#665 to #652 - enlightednatzie ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Man you where living the dream. I might be a permavirgin gf:less loser but i have never been a fan of relationships at all. People that have a dedicated girlfriend just seem to have too much boundaries. Too much drama and ******** and i have just chosed porn over that, but a vagina i could shove my fat veiny cock into on the weekends whithout any drama or commitments would have just wonderful.

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#685 to #665 - formeranony (09/17/2015) [-]

Ah man it was a great, we lived together for awhile, she didn't whore around every night like all these idiots think. We were quite happy, occasionally we'd hit the bar and fling out to others, she was Bi so she went for chicks usually, one time a guy got too clingy and tried to date her even though she explained multiple times it was a one time thing, after a short three way call, all was well. We actually broke up over financial difficulties, she wanted me to drop school to pick up more hours. I just couldn't justify it.

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#492 to #1 - theruse (09/17/2015) [-]

YOU ******* CALLED TRUMP THE SAME DAMN THING **** YOU.

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#510 to #492 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

wut

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#300 to #1 - renespar (09/16/2015) [-]

"cuck"

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#338 to #300 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

Cuck as an insult means a pathetic beta male that lets their girlfriend **** other dudes and has no say in the matter because "muh feminism and le women empowerment"

I know exactly what it means, cuck.

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#429 to #338 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

It's literally white nationalist emotional propaganda.

In two years you'll be defending the Holocaust and seeing nothing unusual about it

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#436 to #429 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>It's propaganda!
>Of **** that is actually happening.

Keep crying cuck.

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#438 to #436 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

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#439 to #438 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Lol you forgot to go anon, cuck.

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#442 to #439 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

"forgot to go anon" the other guy wasn't me, I'm not the type to go anon unless you stormfags block me

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#446 to #442 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

"N-no I wasn't the anon ********* stormfags I bet you'll block me!"

Whatever you gotta say, cuck.

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#447 to #446 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

wow, you certainly are an opinionated one, ain't ya?

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#448 to #447 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah calling me a evil nazi racist bigot stormfag on the internet will certainly make Hungary not be in a state of ******* emergency because of the swarms of sand people.

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#451 to #448 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

here's a thought, maybe the only European country with a razor wire fence and groups pepper-spraying the refugees is perhaps mildly xenophobic and exaggerating the severity of issues they are facing, and even if they didn't, do you expect the people running like hell to maybe have a reason to be pissed after that

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#452 to #451 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah that makes it not a problem.
10/10 on the mental gymnastics though.

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#454 to #452 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

at least it means I can do some kind of gymnastics

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#463 to #454 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

It's funny how you keep crying that I'm an evil racist bigot nazi when I haven't even said anything on the subject other than that it's a problem for the countries they're swarming into.

And
>At least I can do gymnastics
Is that seriously supposed to be an insult?

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#494 to #463 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

no, I'm treating you like a /pol/ack, which you've ticked every other box for, like acting like you're legitimately censored &/or harassed by people calling something racist, using "cuck" the way you did, and also acting like the fact that /pol/ decided to **** this place up isn't accurate

and if you want me to actually start insulting you, you're so narrowminded that you're using a FETISH as an insult like it's a cancer on society, and clearly expect everyone else to agree with your opinion on it

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#505 to #494 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>Treating me like a /pol/ack
>For saying the mass immigration into these countries by young adult male "refugees" is a problem for the countries they're swarming into

Capital Lol
You're grasping at straws at this point.

All I have said was that
A. Mass immigration is happening.
and B. that it's a problem for the countries subjected to it.

And also C. explained why "cuck" is an insult, to like two people

If this makes me an evil racist bigot neo nazi stormfag then I'd hate to see how mad you get when you meet an actual racist.

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#522 to #505 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

and if thinking that there's far more to this than you're treating it makes me a "cuck" I'd hate to see how you respond to any abnormal sexual practice, and that while it might harm the country, what the hell are they SUPPOSED to do, lie down and die so that they don't inconvenience others, and the harm is in a country that's first reaction to mass immigration was to lock down everything and act like it was a human plague

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#523 to #519 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>What the hell are they SUPPOSED TO DO

Maybe stop in one of the 5-7 countries they passed through on the way to the ones they're currently swarming to.

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#526 to #523 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

aaaaaand the blinders are on, haven't you noticed the fact that they DO go other places, as many other users have pointed out, but I mean I guess going to the place where they have the best chance of being well off makes them inherently super destructive

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#532 to #526 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>"The blinders are on!"
>Because I easily answered your question with an answer that didn't go with your narrative.

Yeah, I'm done. Have fun with your meltdown over the evil /pol/acks coming here to have opinions you don't like.

inb4 you get mad and reply as anon

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#560 to #523 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

>> 544 no, I'll take the steadily growing amount of red thumbs you're getting as a victory
>inb4 "muh bandwagon" and "pinkies"

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#568 to #560 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>"red thumbs means you're wrong!"

I mean if that's the logic you want to use

>Almost 200 green thumbs on my original post

But as long as you feel better.

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#537 to #523 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

>526 "get mad and reply as anon" so you blocked me for arguing YOUR narrative, another tick on the /pol/ checklist also, no the blinders are on because as I pointed out, there are a large number of places they are also going, you ******* moron

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#544 to #537 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>Doing exactly what I ******* said you would

I blocked you because I'm bored and don't care about this anymore.
Take this as a "victory" if you have to.

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#629 to #436 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

LAMO CUCK CUCK CCKUK CUCK QUQ KUK

And quit using arrow quotes, this isn't your circlejerk imageboard.

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#638 to #629 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

>getting this butthurt
>over someone using bullet points

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#776 to #429 - ilovehitler (09/17/2015) [-]

I do that now.

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#644 to #338 - enlightednatzie ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

You just need to look in the mirror to find an example...

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#650 to #644 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Amazing comeback
"No u"
Wow, how will I ever recover?

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#51 to #1 - shacmaster (09/16/2015) [-]

"god it's not their fault when did we become so /pol/? am I right? oh my god it's 2015 guys, stop being so /pol/"

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#103 to #1 - dasbrot (09/16/2015) [-]

You kiddin? This is FJ, not tumblr.

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#574 to #103 - brcstar (09/17/2015) [-]

Get real, FJ is basically tumblr with a couple of different opinions.

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#582 to #574 - renespar (09/17/2015) [-]

no, we're distinctively more on the /pol/ side of things, otherwise people like schnitzel wouldn't regularly make front page with blatant racism

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#705 to #582 - Shiny ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

That's kind of what they said.

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#147 to #103 - serhiy ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

you have never been on the hating board have you?

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#480 to #147 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

What's the hating board?

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#512 to #480 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Its a board
for hating

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#716 to #512 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Oh dang, okay I usually just browse front page, so image boards are kinda new to me.

For anyone that needs it: /hating/
and: /Most+people+don+t+know+about+our+image+boards/text/5041803/

Sorry, didn't do my research.

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#17 to #1 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

"God, don't be so racist, you need to let them blow you up and behead your kids; it's their culture"

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#3 to #1 - mauerman [OP]ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

I read at least 5 comments from different users on my last post, that said they were leaving FJ for ever, because of the users' reactions.

mfw

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#72 to #3 - europe (09/16/2015) [-]

And stay gone

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#13 to #3 - wcpapier ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

Are they funny/stupid in and or out of context in any way, if so make content about it. please

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#389 to #13 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

hey neger, apelsapje?

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#4 to #3 - leonhardt (09/16/2015) [-]

Lol

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#22 to #3 - joeykaze (09/16/2015) [-]

good

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#32 - goobyman (09/16/2015) [-]

keep in mind that hundreds of thousands of refugees are already in turkey for example???
Numbers straight from wikipedia
2.1 Million Turkey
1.196 Million Lebanon
1.4 Million Jordan
247k Iraq
133k Egyp
120k Kuwait
105k Germany
100k Saudi Arabia
88k Greece (2015 only)
40k Sweden
25k Algeria
18k Austria
17k Armenia
5k U.K.
after this point it's not worth mentioning
oh, wait, 1,500 USA

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#258 to #32 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

>Basing numbers on records
Some if not most Syrians in other countries are illegals which means they are not documented and recorded.

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#390 to #258 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

They're all illegal. They have to be, there are no legal ways for them to get to Europe. They're still registered for asylum purposes.

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#940 to #258 - goobyman (09/17/2015) [-]

also these are estimates, which a lot lower registered number. if you knew how to wikipedia you'd know already

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#820 to #32 - awesomedoge (09/17/2015) [-]

nah forget is man, people are sheep and dont think for themselves.since the edgy as **** majority tries to convince people the refugees are bad.

I thought the same about this a couple of days ago.The thing that convinced me is that people are forced to leave their country, if they dont leave they will be killed, they do not have any choice.

Also, they will all leave in about half a year or so, so why are we complaining in the first place?

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#56 to #32 - superoldbadgertwo (09/16/2015) [-]

It's worth bearing in mind that the top 6 nations on that list are nations where islam is common, and where the customs and traditions of the people fleeing are more relatable.

However, Europe has different cultural, ethical and religious beliefs, and with around 250,000 migrants off of this list alone coming to European countries, not including those who are displaced still in countries like Serbia and Hungary it is a bit of a culture shock for us.

Fair enough, there are indeed women and children in those crowds. But other images and videos also show large groups of young single men, in some cases rioting or desecrating public buildings. In countries like Germany and, once again, Hungary, public services are being heavily affected by the sudden surge in migrant numbers.

Not sure whether or not you mean to support the crisis or if you are against it. But I hope this helps put some perspective into it that some media stations, e.g the BBC would have missed. From Europe.

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#496 to #56 - victhree (09/17/2015) [-]

Among 250,000 homeless people, you're guaranteed to get riots every now and then. Do you know how Europe deals with rioters? By putting them in jail. Just like that. The world goes on after that. Have you seen any actual statistics or are you just supposing the refugees are constantly wreaking havoc? In most posts about this topic, the photos aren't even from this conflict, just cheap, fake propaganda.

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#59 to #56 - goobyman (09/16/2015) [-]

I am for them finding a good home except syria. I'm for them to get a new life. I'm against them going to the countries they want to go, but instead go to countries they can go to.
How about they let politics catch up and write a asylum seeking letter? Practically free.

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#60 to #59 - superoldbadgertwo (09/16/2015) [-]

I understand Syrians fleeing from the wars in their homeland, like yourself. But another issue of mine is those who come across the mediterranean or through Turkey, claiming to be Syrian, but not actually having the documents to prove it.

Most of these people come from countries where, yes, their leaders may be corrupt, and yes, their way of life may not be as nice as it is here in Europe. But regardless, a majority come from countries where war isn't an everyday prospect like it is in Syria. It just gives the actual Syrian refugees a bad name.

Instead, we're getting a tide of migrants (migrants as they are not at all displaced from their homeland) making false claims, with nothing to prove who they are. For all we know, they may be criminals fleeing justice. ISIS themselves have confirmed that they have got 4,000 of their men into Europe by taking advantage of this.

As you can see from this chart (from 2014, where the numbers are much lower than this year, it's in the millions as a total now), whilst the Syrians make up a large number at just over 120,000 individuals RECORDED, they do not form the majority of the 625,920 who applied. They make up a mere 19% of last years numbers.

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#196 to #60 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

taking into account that about 20 000 + isis operatives are european citizens,4000 isn't that bad of a statistic

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#61 to #60 - goobyman (09/16/2015) [-]

All of this.

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#845 - dawnartemis (09/17/2015) [-]

>live on island
>live on the edge of Europe
>rain of 80mm is considered a light shower
>only thing to eat is potato (sometimes no potato, make nation very sad)
Good luck Europe.

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#858 to #845 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Island and that flag. Makes me more vexed than it should.

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#847 to #845 - hwaraam (09/17/2015) [-]

I so envy you.

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#892 to #845 - oosulley (09/17/2015) [-]

Irish people complaining about immgrants

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#24 - vorarephilia (09/16/2015) [-]

You guys are so narrow minded. They are all leaving the middle east because of war. but Europeans have been in a constant state of squabbling since the collapse of the Roman empire. Y'all are used to it. Thus, mass migrate to the middle east and Africa and take all the oil for yourselves.

Need more incentive Europeans? they have to dig through clay to get to the oil, and find it frequently enough to be annoying. CLAY FOR DAYS. Plus you'd be on a direct route for importing tea and coffee from China. Could even grow it yourselves with proper irrigation in Ethiopia. Speaking of which, importing cheap goods from China just became much easier.

It'll require a lot of work, which is why the Germans should go a few months before everyone else. By the time everyone else gets there, they should already be an autobahn for use and sausage factories would be in full production. Kick the Muslims back to the now abandoned Europe to live with the Slavs and gypsies.

All that land is waiting for someone to build on it and mine it. Your great grandfathers knew it and you do to. Africa waits like a supple virgin. GO PLOW HER FIELDS.

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#209 to #24 - jewbob (09/16/2015) [-]

And the Africans still didn't do jack **** with the land beside maybe Egypt.

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#801 to #209 - xsap (09/17/2015) [-]

egypth was never black. its like always been under arab/white controll. ******* 2dumb to build

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#952 to #801 - jewbob (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah, that's why I never said black. North Africa is mostly Arabs and mostly anything south of there was built when they were colonized.

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#395 to #209 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

No, but what the **** did Ukraine do?

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#401 to #395 - devilsquirrel (09/16/2015) [-]

You know what you did

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#329 to #24 - mynameisnotmike (09/16/2015) [-]

africa waits like a supple virgin with aids

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#98 - zomaru ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

We tried to warn you
You didn't listen
Now you must face the consequences

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#116 to #98 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

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#730 - brisineo (09/17/2015) [-]

I for one, recall something ISIS declared in February. Where they claimed they would "March their armies into the very heart of Europe. But not by force, but disguised within the many refugees that they'll blindly take in."

Of course, back then we all laughed at their optimism, thinking it would never be possible. But here we are, played right into their hands.

You've brought this on yourselves, unfortunately, and 'Murica's going to be pretty much out of this fight for the next year until leadership changes. Can only wish you good luck and hope you wake up one day and do something before something serious happens.

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#87 - drekinn (09/16/2015) [-]

More than 4 million refugees from Syria (95%) are in just five countries Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt.

The 2 out of a 100 is the words of a government official from Lebanon backed up by no statistics i could find. these are his words "Asked if Islamic State was sending its members into Europe under cover, the minister said: ‘My gut feeling is yes they are facilitating such an operation." you are building your argument on the gut feeling of one person? from a story written by the daily mail, often called the "daily fail" and for a good reason, it's poor clickbait journalism with almost no integrity left.

my sources:
www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/09/syrias-refugee-crisis-in-numbers/

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

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#11 - voltkills (09/16/2015) [-]

while its a serious and worrying concern, and the something must be done about the immigration crisis, I find it highly unlikely that there will be 20k ISIS militants in europe, why? because by most estimates, thats about half of their entire numbers, now while they certainly hate us, i doubt they are going to send half their force to infiltrate us while still fighting wars in the middle east. dont think for a moment im pro letting them all in, they should ******* stay in the nearby countries, becuase even the non ISIS ones are hardly good quality citizens.

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#19 to #11 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/09/exclusive-50-spies-say-isis-intelligence-was-cooked.html

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#614 - phenact (09/17/2015) [-]

>this settles down for a month or so
>Isis puts its plan in action
>20-50,000 isis militants start murdering and ******* **** up in europe
>army literally inside the eurozone, thousands die

this probably wont happen but if it does, we need to change this **** or something

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#616 to #614 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

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#634 to #614 - worldofwarcraftdog (09/17/2015) [-]

liberals face when

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#709 to #634 - dorfdorfdorf (09/17/2015) [-]

its funny how quiet liberals are on sharia law

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#601 - bibblesworth ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Goddamn I'm glad I'm not the only one on this train of thought. The definition of a refugee is someone fleeing war and persecution. Once you make it out of your country and set up shop elsewhere, temporary or not you have successfully fled said war and any move FROM there you're voluntarily migrating for a better life, which is the definition of a migrant.

Furthermore why in the everloving **** is so much blame and pressure being put on Europe. The Gulf countries which speak the same language, are closer geographically and share a religion have accept zero, ******* ZERO refugees and not a single person signals them out, they keep ranting about how the EU has to come together while entirely ignoring the people who** should** and can help the most. Sometimes I get ******* disgusted at how the world is turning out. I'm all for diversity, equal opportunities and rights but I'm tired of this ********** where the western world props everyone else up on a pedestal due to either current or past events.

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#605 to #601 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5478/

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#606 to #601 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

The neighboring countries of Syria are full, then the next countries are either poor (Greece for example) or xenophobic (Hungary for example). The countries the refugees go for officially say they will accept them.

So it's the most plausbile choice to go there, if you can afford it.

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#610 to #606 - bibblesworth ONLINE (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah or the Gulf Countries (Saudia Arabia, UAE, Qatar etc) who are CLOSER to Syria than even Greece is and are rich as **** , not to mention they share much more in terms of culture.

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#611 to #610 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

They refuse to accept refugees.

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#667 to #611 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah but Hungary is the xenophobic one

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#671 to #667 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Just an example, as declared. Here a quote from the article linked in the content, explaining why exactly Hungary is a state of emergency:

Amnesty International criticized the move, saying Hungary’s “intimidating show of militarized force is shocking.”

Prime Minister Viktor Orban defended the measures, saying he acted to preserve Christian Europe, which he said is threatened by the large numbers of Muslims streaming into the continent.

“The supply is nearly endless — we can see how many of them are coming,” Orban said in a televised address just before the new laws took effect, according to the AP. “And if we look at the demographics, we can see that these people have more children than our communities who lead a traditional, Christian way of life.”

So, there is no trouble with the refugees. They're not rioting or anything. They're just too foreign for a xenophobic country.

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#674 to #671 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Yeah how ******* DARE they want to preserve their culture.

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#691 to #674 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

If christianity was their way of life, they would not build a fence when war refugees merely ask for passage. They're racists and hyporcrites.

Germans are not, so refugees try to get there. Quite resaonable, as you surely will agree.

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#694 to #691 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

By your logic they should be bashing their heads in with maces.

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#702 to #694 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

Nice rethorics.

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#703 to #702 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

And nobody noticed I said maces while the picture has a guy with a sword

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#689 to #674 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

They need diversity, because their culture is inferior to all others, and not worth preserving.

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#692 to #689 - leonhardt (09/17/2015) [-]

Aaaaaand there it is.

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#259 - lulzdealer ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

And now you ******** Europeans know what it's like to be America.

Years ago, you called the U.S. racist and xenophobic for wanting to tighten it's border policies. And now you know why.

When you take in 3rd world people you take in 3rd world problems.

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#261 to #259 - vegeta (09/16/2015) [-]

All nations are judged on their people
therefore America, a nation of people free from the world, became destined to be shackled to the world they want to escape.

The US is not exempt from stupidity. the Canadian boarder isn't even secured.
and the Hungarians have been getting into america for years that way. they practically come falling in barrels down niagra falls.

Now you tell me whether we should be more worried about keeping our guns, or our wits.

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#469 to #261 - anon (09/17/2015) [-]

We don't tighten security on the Canadian border because Canada isn't filled with Drug Cartels that kidnap and kill people.

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#474 to #469 - vegeta (09/17/2015) [-]

underoo bombastics

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#268 to #261 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Can't fight back hordes of terrorizers with your wits boy.

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#271 to #268 - vegeta (09/16/2015) [-]

But I'm an atheist who welcomes death.
if you want to threaten my life I laugh because I've already gone farther in life than I could ever know.

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#352 to #271 - cheastnut ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

would you like a neck beard with that fedora?

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#383 to #352 - vegeta (09/16/2015) [-]

Muttonchops and a normal head of hair do fine. Tell me what does the aztec temple look like on the summer solstice? would you know from a picture, or from being their. I like how you only hate what you implicated from me, which was yourself. so why are you hating yourself so?

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#774 to #383 - imposand (09/17/2015) [-]

What the **** are you smoking ***** ?

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#927 to #774 - vegeta (09/17/2015) [-]

A lot of things.

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#385 to #383 - cheastnut ONLINE (09/16/2015) [-]

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#387 to #385 - vegeta (09/16/2015) [-]

was that the face your pastor made when he gave you that ~~pearlnecklace~~username?

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#94 - reican (09/16/2015) [-]

well. better hone my archery then.

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#131 to #94 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

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#76 - formeranony (09/16/2015) [-]

"As soon as they're put of Syria/Iraq etc.they are not refugees anymore. They are immigrants."
I get ehat your saying but you can't change the definition of a word to fit your opinion. A refugee is an immigrant from a foriegn country that is currently in wartime, or uninhabitable conditions.

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#73 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

I love that on FJ all you need to do to rebut claims of racism is say "inb4 SJW cucks call me racist" "thur gunna say we're liek /pol/" and **** like that, as if that's some sort of iron clad retort rather than evidence of what a cricle jerk this all is.

btw, i don't care whether you are racist or not, just pointing out how stupid and annoying these comments are.

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#48 - ryix (09/16/2015) [-]

pretty sure you stop being a refugee once you have escaped the war zone.

After that you're just a vagrant/immigrant

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#77 to #48 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]

Your joking right?
You're a refugee, if you're fleeing from something and can't return. You google it, right? The joke is you pretend to not know the Geneva Convention, and therefore troll, right? Your sarcasm level is above and beyond.

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#502 to #48 - victhree (09/17/2015) [-]

If you have no refuge, how can you be a refugee?

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#220 - angryninja (09/16/2015) [-]

At least I live in only county in EU where you can arm yourself. Also not many refugees want to stay in Zemanistan.

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#232 to #220 - bionicpanda (09/16/2015) [-]

what country is that?

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#245 to #232 - angryninja (09/16/2015) [-]

this

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#246 to #245 - bionicpanda (09/16/2015) [-]

Texas?

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#247 to #246 - angryninja (09/16/2015) [-]

Czech Republic

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#248 to #247 - bionicpanda (09/16/2015) [-]

You can own guns there?

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#251 to #248 - angryninja (09/16/2015) [-]

Yes. Only EU country where you can own and carry "short weapons" (pistols and revolvers) for self defense. Hunting rifles and shotguns are legal in most countries tho, and you can hunt kebab with them if situation requires.

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