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What's the deal with killing your clones? He'd be the best buddy and boy the cooperation. Not sure what would I tell the authorities though.
lmao, why would I lower myself down to working with suck a wacko. **** that dude
I have a feeling me and other me would try to get an army of clones to invade Europe blitzkrieg style. Though we'd probably get into a few fistfights.
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anisbanana ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Heres an interesting paradox:
In the future, we can teleport places simply by stepping into a machine, that constructs a completely identical copy of us out of energy; our physical and mental states are indistinguishable. The "original" you that steps into the machine gets destroyed, while the reconstruction of you lives on from that point, having the same exact memory as the original you, simply being half way across the globe after clicking the teleport button. Why would you/ would you not agree to such teleportation? With no proof of a soul or conscious, we are all entities.
In the future, we can teleport places simply by stepping into a machine, that constructs a completely identical copy of us out of energy; our physical and mental states are indistinguishable. The "original" you that steps into the machine gets destroyed, while the reconstruction of you lives on from that point, having the same exact memory as the original you, simply being half way across the globe after clicking the teleport button. Why would you/ would you not agree to such teleportation? With no proof of a soul or conscious, we are all entities.
**** no I wouldn't. That'd be suicide, there's no fathomable way my consciousness would survive being destroyed and magically transfer to the new body.
Agree, because whether i persist or not does not matter, considering we are only as much of a person as the life we have remembered. If he remembers everything, then he is me.
He believes he is the original you and that nothing went wrong during the teleportation. Your consciousness ceased to exist and you will no longer know or experience anything, you won't know the clone was successfully created or anything. You will die. The copy lives on.
Would you be okay with committing suicide as long as it created a copy of you that left off where you died?
Would you be okay with committing suicide as long as it created a copy of you that left off where you died?
Only if i didnt know it worked that way. But either way im still here so i guess im fine. Even if that means that I am NOT actually here anymore.
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anisbanana ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
But what makes you, you? Is it your brain? If I take your brain and put it in somebodies body, who will be "you"? If it's your body, how many organ transplants would it take until it wasn't you?
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anisbanana ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
But what in your brain makes you? Simply the way your neurons are arranged? Hypothetically if I take both halfs of your brains and put them into seperate bodies, which one of them is "you"? Each brain will have enough to function.
Both would contain my conscious. Each piece of my brain would behave simply as if I had had a brain transplant/lobotomy.
Say you have a 3d printed pickaxe Not sure why I thought of a pickaxe of all things to be honest. . When it breaks you print off another one atom for atom. The new pickaxe isn't the same pickaxe. It's different. The same way identical twins are not the same person.
Say you have a 3d printed pickaxe Not sure why I thought of a pickaxe of all things to be honest. . When it breaks you print off another one atom for atom. The new pickaxe isn't the same pickaxe. It's different. The same way identical twins are not the same person.
con·scious
ˈkän(t)SHəs/
adjective
adjective: conscious
aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake.
synonyms: aware, awake, alert, responsive, sentient, compos mentis
"the patient was conscious"
having knowledge of something; aware.
"we are conscious of the extent of the problem"
synonyms: aware, mindful, sensible;
"he became conscious of people talking"
antonyms: unaware
painfully aware of; sensitive to.
"he was very conscious of his appearance"
Consciousness does exist though. Is this really not scientifically proven, or did you mean something else? Also, I still say that would be a scary thing to do. As far as I'm concerned, I'd still be dying. I'd only be leaving a clone to continue my life for me. It wouldn't be my consciousness moving, it would be a copy of my consciousness created in an identical, but separate, body, which I think would be a separate person apart from me.
As far as I'm concerned, you'd die. Then your clone would eventually use it and produce a second clone, and then die. Further on down the line you'd see hundreds or thousands of your clones die, each just after making another clone then committing suicide. That's insane.
Side note: I wonder if the government would let me pay to make a clone and keep him rather than be destroyed after-words? I would love to have a second me around to play video games with. ******* myself is just a given, really.
ˈkän(t)SHəs/
adjective
adjective: conscious
aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake.
synonyms: aware, awake, alert, responsive, sentient, compos mentis
"the patient was conscious"
having knowledge of something; aware.
"we are conscious of the extent of the problem"
synonyms: aware, mindful, sensible;
"he became conscious of people talking"
antonyms: unaware
painfully aware of; sensitive to.
"he was very conscious of his appearance"
Consciousness does exist though. Is this really not scientifically proven, or did you mean something else? Also, I still say that would be a scary thing to do. As far as I'm concerned, I'd still be dying. I'd only be leaving a clone to continue my life for me. It wouldn't be my consciousness moving, it would be a copy of my consciousness created in an identical, but separate, body, which I think would be a separate person apart from me.
As far as I'm concerned, you'd die. Then your clone would eventually use it and produce a second clone, and then die. Further on down the line you'd see hundreds or thousands of your clones die, each just after making another clone then committing suicide. That's insane.
Side note: I wonder if the government would let me pay to make a clone and keep him rather than be destroyed after-words? I would love to have a second me around to play video games with. ******* myself is just a given, really.
No. Even disregarding the 'no proof of a soul' argument, the potential accidents are ******* terrifying. Ever not had a head? Because the chances of that happening will have gone way up if this theory hold true at a later point in time, much more so if it becomes the cheapest method of travel.
That's a flawed argument. The continuity of your brain function has never been interrupted.
It's insane to think that arranging another set of particles to make a functioning you somewhere else and then destroying the original means that your consciousness will transfer and live on in the newly created human; it already has a consciousness, one that is identical to yours but not yours.
It's insane to think that arranging another set of particles to make a functioning you somewhere else and then destroying the original means that your consciousness will transfer and live on in the newly created human; it already has a consciousness, one that is identical to yours but not yours.
It would be you only in the sense that it would behave like you and believe itself to be the uninterrupted original. You're okay with never experiencing the rest of your life so long as a clone of you gets to?
So you would willingly kill yourself? Sorry I'm just trying to wrap my head around it because I don't care if a clone of me would experience the rest of my life in my place, I want to personally experience it.
until you piss him off and he goes around ******* up your life
aha!, but what if becomes self aware and he sees himself as being expendable since he's just a clone?
He is self-aware from the start. I'd be like:
"Wassup, me. You're a clone or something. They duped me."
Clone's fw "Cool."
"Wanna play multiplayer SE?"
"Nah, bro is hogging the second PC all the time. How bout a walk?"
"Yeah, cool."
And we'd walk an shoot **** and we would work on answering the age old question: Is selfcest masturbation or gay?
"Wassup, me. You're a clone or something. They duped me."
Clone's fw "Cool."
"Wanna play multiplayer SE?"
"Nah, bro is hogging the second PC all the time. How bout a walk?"
"Yeah, cool."
And we'd walk an shoot **** and we would work on answering the age old question: Is selfcest masturbation or gay?
Personally if I had a clone. I'd be selfcesting myself everytime I got horny.