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The other point of view. . 5 Common Misconceptions about Christianity I' m going to kick off with the classic phrase: " God is good, why did He...", a source of

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5 Common Misconceptions about
Christianity
I' m going to kick off with the classic phrase: " God is good, why
did He...", a source of great amusement at the expense of anyone
with some Ponyrelated story. However, God isn' t the guy that
kneels down so you can put your feet on him. Nowone has respect
for that guy, and he deserves the he gets for it. It is
mentioned often in the Bible that God is a 'father' to us. Right, to
the dads, when your child keeps toddling over to the fire, standard
procedure is to let them singe themselves, and when you dry off
the tears, you both know that they wont try that **** again.
However, humanity shines in its inability to learn from past

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#6 - choobe (01/30/2015) [-]

1. Doesn't explain why he lets people do bad things to other people though.

2. No comment.

3. But this "test" is highly unfair. Some people have 80 years to redeem themselves, while others have just 18. Also: what if you grow up with the notion that stealing is okay because you're poor, and to systematically hate the system? If everyone around you is like that, you barely have a chance, while a "good christian" has it easy.

4-5. Why Christianity not hating, genuinely curious ? I mean; the Bible has a lot of weird and horrifying stuff in it, and theoretically the "best" Christians is the ones who follow it, right? Shouldn't this mean that killing non-believers is a good thing? Also: 5 is circular reasoning, a logical fallacy.

Also, a couple questions:

I think it's hypocritical to call it infallible Gods word and use that as an argument for it's validity, while simultaneously making excuses for why this part and that part is "written for another time". What do you think?

Also: do you think if I reject Christ my whole 60-80 year old life that it's fair that I burn in hell for eternity?

#11 to #6 - kurtlanglie ONLINE (02/02/2015) [-]

I'll try to explain it from a Christian perspective. Don't think I'm bashing your view on things; this is just the way I see it from the standpoint of someone who believes that there is a God, and the God of Christiandom is the real deal.

1. He allows it to happen because after mortal death, none of it matters. I know that seems like a cheap answer, but it's the running theme of this whole Christianity deal. Eternity is a prospect that I don't think human beings will ever grasp on earth.

3. I wouldn't call the test unfair. The "question" is the same for everybody, and it's a really simple one with two possible answers. I get that it is going to be harder for some than others to say "yes," when "no" seems to make more sense.

4-5. I really don't like the notion that there are "better" Christians than others, and according to the Bible, neither does God.

Then there's the Bible itself. I'll level with you: I don't know it nearly as well as I would like to. But that's because my desire to read is based on my desire to know the history of my faith and the teachings of Christ, and in that regard I know all I feel I need to know from it.

The idea of the Bible being the word of God is based on faith, plain and simple. Without there being a belief in a God, the Bible is really just a long book with history and philosophical teachings. It's as if the credibility of the Bible is entirely dependent on there being a belief that what it says is true, and that got me for the longest time since faith and logic generally don't make good bedfellows. Faith is simply believing in something that you have no tangible evidence to prove it exists, and logic, being entirely based on proof and fact, doesn't consider it to be reasonable.

Like I said, I struggled with the longest time on that one. But then I started learning more about the facts, the science of how the universe works, and the more I learned, the more I thought that everything is just too damned perfect to be accidental. Honestly, I think it takes more faith to not believe in some sort of God than to not based on how incredible it is that we are here, and of all the faiths in the world, Christianity makes the most sense to me. And even if it's all wrong and there is no God, then what do I lose? Certainly not happiness.

So, if the Bible is to be believed, then I would say it's very fair that a person that rejects Christ for about 100 years gets the punishment of anybody who rejects him. I'd say we owe it to a being that not only created us, but also died so that we didn't have to receive such a punishment as per a divine judiciary dictates. Bear in mind that this system was put in place not just for humans (who were originally supposed to live forever), but for other celestial beings like good ol' Lucifer himself.

Long post, sorry. Please don't think of me as judgmental or critical, I only want to provide perspective from my end. I'll probably eat a whole lot of red thumbs anyway.

#12 to #11 - choobe (02/02/2015) [-]

Don't worry about offending me or something, as long as the arguments aren't "look at all that fedora" and other ad hominems, I'll assume you have no ill intention I also assume you'll think like that.

1. Fair enough.
3. Will there be leeway if you're forced to live a lifestyle where you're forced to steal, or pressured into it? How about if you follow the Christian rules, but call Him Allah? As far as I know, the differences are minuscule, some different rituals, and some more rules, but nothing that the Bible deems "immoral" unless you're an extremist.

4-5. There are some highly specific rules that many Christians don't follow anymore, why are these "okay" to not follow? I think Moses was ordered by God to kill someone who worked on the sabbath. Levicitus is also something of a trainwreck according to our modern times. , also; Jesus didn't actually abolish the old testament, he says specifically it's still in effect (Matthew 5:17).

Faith; okay. I personally don't "get it", but I guess that's an acceptable answer.

Universe: I get that, but there are explanations I'm guessing since you said that you aren't a creationist. , heard of the Multiverse hypothesis? I only remember string theory atm, but there are more hypotheses that assumes you have multiverses, many with different universal constants, so matter behaves differently in each one, we're just in the most convenient one.

Also; we do not know if life is possible with other universal constants, but it's not unthinkable. I'm also fond of this analogy: The universe isn't perfect for us, we are like a flower that grows up through a crack in asphalt, the asphalt isn't made for the flower, it's generally a pretty bad place for flowers, but it happens sometimes.

I think if you really think about eternity, 100 years to decide what to believe is short. What if I have a legitimate epiphany and genuinely start believing in the goodness of God while burning in Hell?

Also; a hypothetical; say every religion you ever heard of was true and you knew it. but no homemade ones. , and the religious texts were to be read as literally as possible, and you were to be judged by what you chose to believe and follow. Would you still choose Christianity?

#13 to #12 - kurtlanglie ONLINE (02/02/2015) [-]

3. All it takes is to accept Christ as Lord and believe in him. Everything else comes secondary to that. Like I said, there really isn't a "better" Christian than another, since the criteria as far as God is concerned is the same.

That being said, there is something to be said about living a life inconsistent with the teachings of Christ while claiming to be a Christian. More than most other things, J-man hated hypocrites, but with hypocrisy being another sin, it's forgiven by that one sacrament.

As far as name goes, it really doesn't matter what you call him, as long as you're actually referring to Jesus and not someone else. Allah is generally used to refer to God as Islam sees it, which does not acknowledge Jesus as the son of God (just a good-hearted prophet). If you're up for a neat read, look up different names and terms for Jesus. Many titles for one being.

4-5. This one's a bit more complicated, but it all has to do with the fact that people are tainted with sin and have been since the first two dunderheads ate that fruit. Because of that event, people were given what is commonly referred to as, "The Law," which was a very strict code of conduct designed to serve as a punishment and lifestyle for people living in a world in which they corrupted with evil.

That law is kept in the Bible for history's sake. Jesus did not come to abolish the law, but his purpose was to take the punishment of the law as his own. The old law stated that every sin was to be paid with death in specific terms: yours or the life of a "pure" sacrificial lamb, who would serve as a substitute for your own.

This is why Jesus is commonly referred to as the "Lamb of God." It's one thing to die for your own sins as a tainted human being, but with Jesus being without sin and dying for us, we are covered under that old law's conditions and can therefore come to the place of God.

So when you see people say something along the lines of, "Old testament doesn't apply anymore," it's because for all practical purposes the old law was made irrelevant through Christ.

I know Faith can be hard to wrap your head around. Believe me, it's a daily question for Christians, too. Blind faith is one thing, but it's entirely another to question your faith regularly and continue to believe. Take the subject of Creation, for example. Since the Bible says God created everything in a week, I naturally would like to believe that as undisputed fact, but there's just an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary. It's not easy to believe that God did it exactly as described in Genesis with all that we know.

On that subject of creation and more specifically the Multiverse hypothesis, I find that the theory only really holds as long as the universe is truly infinite. Anything less doesn't make sense, because something has to exist outside the limits.

With that, if the universe is truly limitless and the possibility for anything exists, then the possibility of an omnipotent being exists as well. God is described as infinite himself, which would mean that if he exists in one place, he exists everywhere. There's nothing that says we're the only ones that an infinite God could have created in this vast cosmos, but because of the omnipotent presence he has, it can certainly seem like it.

For that hypothetical: Yes, because that's exactly what I did when I started thinking about the notion of a God. I did a lot of research into other faiths to fill a sense of spiritual longing, and Christianity stood out. You have to realize that the life of Jesus Christ is undeniably a historically huge event. Every major faith in the world acknowledges him in some fashion, be it that he was a teacher, a prophet, or a liar. Nobody can deny that he came and went, and considering the amount of prediction that came before him and accurately predicted his life, I concluded that he, like everything else, was too great to be a coincidence.

My perspective anyway.

#4 - anonmynous (01/30/2015) [-]

In response to #1 and a big part of what made me become an atheist:

A couple years back a homeless man died in my town. Yeah I guess you could file that under ' **** happens'. But this man was no mere bum. He went by many names biker Jesus, Hector the happy hobo, but most people just called him John. He was slightly "challenged" but he was the greatest man you could ever hope to know in your lifetime. He would ride around all day on his bike waving and smiling at everyone who drove by and picked up trash. In return the local grocery stores gave him free food and an unlimited supply of coffee which he made use of by giving hot cups to anyone who would stop and chat with him. He was killed by a woman who was hopped up on prescription pills in the middle of the day and managed jump the curb at the exact moment he was riding by on his bike. His funeral was the largest our city had ever seen and at the time of his death most people didn't even know his last name. We do have a statue of him and his bike though.

That is the story of John Breaux and the reason that no one will convince me that there is any sort of benevolent being looking down on us. Your #1 can kiss my ass.

#7 to #4 - valkarian (01/30/2015) [-]

Thats really sad man.

#5 to #4 - anonmynous (01/30/2015) [-]

I needed to share that because his death occurred 5 years ago today.

#2 - ministermax ONLINE (01/30/2015) [-]

I think you forgot something

#10 - makotoitou (01/31/2015) [-]

I went to the book store
They had a Bible there

your move christians

#9 - anon (01/30/2015) [-]

In Catholicism the bible has literally no contribution to the views on homosexuality its governed by natural law. Homosexuality is considered in the Roman Catholic Church teaching under two distinct aspects. Homosexuality as an orientation is considered an "objective disorder" because seen as "ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil", but not as sinful. Homosexuality as sexual activity is seen as a "moral disorder" and "homosexual acts" as "contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity."

#8 - katiamanagen (01/30/2015) [-]

im fine with whatever religion you are, in fact the bible raises some good points
but the basis of Christianity is what turns me away
no matter what ## : ## youre reading it eventually turns to the theme of

You are powerless and weak until you submit, and give yourself to the J-man
I'm a strong independent ~~black woman~~ person and this bothers me a lot.

And work work work work. you will find happiness in laborious jobs
I mean, that right there is probably how brit bongs and americans got to be such world powers. religious industrialism

whereas everyone else is loving life praising god(s) that way
We in the sweatshops Thanking the J-man for letting us work.