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The Facts. "( watch the college brainwashed morons come screaming from the peanut gallery to defend their hijacking of the Lexicon to suit their insanities

"( watch the college brainwashed morons come screaming from the peanut gallery to defend their hijacking of the Lexicon to suit their insanities... )" ~imgur OP

Okay I know that this image should describe sex instead of gender, but does that justify people labeling themselves as a trigender pyrofox as their gender? I want to hear your viewpoints on this. I'm honestly at a loss here.

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#7 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (12 hours ago) [+] (7 replies)
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Damn I was hoping people would be smart to check the DESCRIPTION.
Because I was legit asking a question.
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#103 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (56 minutes ago) [+] (5 replies)
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Guys what's the difference between bisexual and pansexual?

I mean I know bisexuals like dudes and chicks only and pansexuals can **** any human.

But where does a bisexual draw the line? I mean you got a feminine female, then a masculine female (tomboy I suppose), you got your reverse traps and cuntboys, and then you also got your trannies and other odd things. Where does a bi person draw the line? Are bisexuals only into mainly feminine females and masculine males? Do they not like it when you place sex with the opposite gender? Do bisexuals have a spectrum between straight, gay, and pan? Like some bisexuals can like women more right? or men more right? Then there must be bisexuals who like it when gender/sex mix up more than others, and the ones that do are more 'pansexual' than the others right? Or is it the moment you like tomboy chicks mean you're a light pansexual instead of a bisexual?

I mean pansexuals can't be into EVERYONE right? I mean there's such thing as being ugly.

Seriously man I keep getting corrected in the difference, and google doesn't help because I'm basically asking where's the borderline between bi and pan. I don't even go to tumblr except for porn.
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User avatar #20 - theism ONLINE (6 hours ago) [-]
Reading the comments I had no idea how many FJ users were licensed psychiatrists.
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User avatar #24 to #20 - Einsty ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
I happen to be a licensed chiropractic with a degree in particle physics and I have written several memorandi on how to treat cranial lobus with pincther maximus extract, for which I undertook numerous expeditions into South America, namely the Congo delta and Toulouse.

I also have over 20 published articles in multiple renowed magazines cited all over the world.

I am fluent in mandarin, french, german, portugese and svahili and I am currently researching the language of ancient Sumerian empire. My primary source of information on the subject are preserved stone tablets, eyewitness accounts and data retriaval of solid state drives rescued from roayal tombs.
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User avatar #25 to #24 - youngneil ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
Nerd.
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User avatar #50 to #24 - mesocorny (2 hours ago) [-]
Ok, Laura.
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#41 to #20 - anon (3 hours ago) [-]
Yep. +1.
I'm about 6 months away from my degree in psychology.
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#95 to #20 - anon (1 hour ago) [-]
I can confirm this. I am a license.
In all seriousness, I'm in medical school and considering psychiatry
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#49 to #20 - geeky ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
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User avatar #39 to #20 - traceirving (3 hours ago) [-]
Licensed Psychiatrist, licensed Gun-Specialists, licensed Political advisor's... We have it all on funnyjunk.
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#37 - anon (4 hours ago) [-]
I drew a dick on this picture.
it isn't funny, but, neither was the post.
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User avatar #45 to #37 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
Thanks anon.
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User avatar #53 to #45 - alarubra ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
How often do you get randomly mentioned?
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User avatar #83 to #53 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
Like at least 5 times daily.
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User avatar #4 - kothaex (12 hours ago) [-]
sex is binary
they can have their gender identity **** though because it doesn't ******* affect me
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#59 to #4 - guanyu (2 hours ago) [-]
What about Klinefelter syndrome or chimeric hermaphroditism?
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#10 - anon (11 hours ago) [-]
Labeling one self as anything but male or female (unless you have a birth defect), simply means you think you're a special snowflake and that you deserve a lot of attention. You're still either male or female, nobody gives a rats ass about what you "identify" as, you're not special, you're not interesting. And that goes for morons who claim to be part whatever animal, mythological creature, or robot as well! You are not! Well, maybe part human part idiot, but that's it! Kids these days...
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#36 to #10 - anon (4 hours ago) [-]
I think that might be a bit short sighted.
When people introduce themselves they often say something like "i'm a scientist/teacher/gamer/reader/addict". That doesn't mean they are looking for attention, it's about sharing something with yourself that you can talk about or to look for others that you have that in common with. It can also mean you feel the need to share some quirk about you that is out of the norm, something that people have to take into account when interacting with you (IE i sometimes introduce myself as having aspergers, because people expecting weird interactions will be better at handling them.)

Introducing yourself as male even though you have boobs can be explained as trying to share that you act in a manner that is seen traditionally as female. IE less agressive/competive and more caring.
There is a lot of recorded examples that are exactly this. I've forgotten the exact name, but indians (native americans) had a name for men who weren't just gay in the sense that they liked men, but also had feminine traits and were not as much into hunting/war/whatever.

Now, i do think 99 of the 100 people you see saying this stuff is in it for the attention or because of rebellion or whatever ******** reason, but i also firmly believe that that 1 in a 100 or 1 in a 1000, whatever the numbers is in fact "legit" the other gender.
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#17 to #10 - therealjojomaster (6 hours ago) [-]
What the **** dude, you don't know what they're feeling and neither do I, so basically you're just getting all pissy about other people's lives. Even if it is some kind of brain defect, I don't give a flying **** unless their decisions will mess up my life.
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#46 to #17 - teddybrosevelt ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
I don't see why you're catching reds for this, couldn't agree more. Whoever really gives a **** about this protesting this **** and publicizing it more is just wasting time.
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User avatar #21 - scootabot ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
I believe that biological gender is unchangeable. It's what you were born as. You were born with either a penis or vagina, and in some very rare cases; both.

However, gender identity is something else entirely. You can be a man who wants to be a woman, so you would undergo the proper treatments and surgeries, until you resembled what you wanted on the outside. Only rarely do these people turn out EXACTLY how they wanted.

Those who have a penis, but want to be a woman, while dressing as a woman, is a transgender. They want to be treated like a woman and adopt the womanly roles even though they're a man.

Those who believe they are another gender in another body clearly have some sort of mental illness. However, not all mental illness is bad. It's something that can be fixed or sorted.

I would call a man a woman if he dressed like a woman, acted like a woman, and adopted the womanly roles. I'd even refer to him as 'she', and 'her'.

However, those people who just want to be treated like some special snowflake and have the pronouns 'xir' and 'xhe' is retarded. There are only two genders, with some people having both, but normally identify as a man or a woman.

There's just way too much focus on gender/race now a days, can't we just call people idiots because of what they say/do, not by what they look like?
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#110 to #21 - plantain (47 minutes ago) [-]
You sound like a cool guy. I'm glad not everyone on here gets so irrationally angry about stuff that doesn't affect them.
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#78 - reinbowxdash (1 hour ago) [-]
This offends me greatly.

My name is Firedash and I'm a tri-gender pyrofox.
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User avatar #6 - ubercookieboy (12 hours ago) [-]
Gender is the sexual identity of an individual, not his/her actual sex.

You are talking about sex, not gender.

Gender is usually determined at a young age. Children will often either adopt a role as a male, female or on exceptionally rare occasions another gender. While the science behind psychosexual development is highly contested it's observed that young children will eventually identify themselves as male or female after infancy.

For example, it's possible that a male child may refer to himself as female, even though he does not possess female organs [This often leads to a condition known as gender dysphoria, a rare condition affecting around 0.01% of the world population].

It's widely accepted that sex and gender are not the same thing.

Sorry OP, but your post is wrong.
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User avatar #119 to #6 - youregaylol (37 minutes ago) [-]
nah
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User avatar #8 to #6 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
Okay, but did you check the description?
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#9 to #8 - ubercookieboy (12 hours ago) [-]
GIF
Kinda went AFK in the middle of writing the comment.

If it was a correction then I missed it.
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User avatar #1 - Sethorein ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-]
You're describing sex, not gender. Gender IS a spectrum seeing as men can be feminine as **** and women can be rather butch.

Gender is a spectrum between male and female though, Pyro foxes don't exist.
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User avatar #117 to #1 - youregaylol (38 minutes ago) [-]
no
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#133 to #1 - zaphodcoolfrood (23 minutes ago) [-]
Well I mean there also intersex people. And they are a considerable apart of the world population.
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#5 to #1 - anon (12 hours ago) [-]
I'd have to agree with this guy. You hit the nail on the head for sex, but gender can be a little bit trickier.
However there is a bubble for what "gender" can be. You don't get to be animal kin or a piece of toast as a gender.
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User avatar #63 to #1 - captainprincess ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
A feminine man is not a woman, hes a man
his gender remains male

no spectrum involved
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#75 to #63 - lmrml ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
I think he means there's a Masculinity Spectrum for men and a Feminine Spectrum for Females.

Further left we go on the masculine spectrum, the more "manly" the male is
Further right we go for the Feminine Spectrum, the more many the female is
or maybe I'm talking out of my ass, in that case sorry seth
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User avatar #76 to #75 - captainprincess ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
Ok
I can roll with thyat
But that's not gender

A feminine man is still a man

If it's gay to **** a trap then then no matter how feminine the man is, hes still a man
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#77 to #76 - lmrml ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
lemme rephrase that and make it simple.

Scale for men can be more feminine or masculine.
Scale for women can be more feminine or masculine.
The gender remains the same but the gender may have the tendencies of it's opposite because of personality, choices, etc.
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User avatar #80 to #77 - captainprincess ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
ok
but the gender itself has not changed
I repeat

no matter how feminine a man is, he remains a man
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#89 to #80 - lmrml ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
I'm saying that I agree with you...
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User avatar #92 to #89 - captainprincess ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
aight

idk "lemme rephrase that" sounds confrontational
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#100 to #92 - lmrml ONLINE (58 minutes ago) [-]
<---- Autismus Maximus
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User avatar #102 to #100 - captainprincess ONLINE (57 minutes ago) [-]
oh yeah those pink lines are pretty autismussy
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#104 to #102 - lmrml ONLINE (56 minutes ago) [-]
that's the second time I fail at an arrow without realizing it at first god ******* damnit
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User avatar #105 to #104 - captainprincess ONLINE (55 minutes ago) [-]
I mean
What else were you aiming at
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#106 to #105 - lmrml ONLINE (55 minutes ago) [-]
myself...
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User avatar #107 to #106 - captainprincess ONLINE (55 minutes ago) [-]
harsh
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User avatar #64 to #63 - Sethorein ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
What is the difference between sex and gender to you?
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User avatar #65 to #64 - captainprincess ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
the same as the difference between Femur and Thigh Bone
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User avatar #140 to #65 - Sethorein ONLINE (15 minutes ago) [-]
answer my question straight. Are you saying there is no difference?
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User avatar #142 to #140 - captainprincess ONLINE (14 minutes ago) [-]
That was a straight answer

Im saying I would have to be a medical professional to know that
As far as I can tell there is only the word used

Is there a difference between a femur and a thigh bone?
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User avatar #144 to #142 - Sethorein ONLINE (13 minutes ago) [-]
Your thigh bone is your femur. Are you saying sex and gender are the same?
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User avatar #146 to #144 - captainprincess ONLINE (13 minutes ago) [-]
well one is also a verb

unless you know how to gender someone
or have hot steamy gender
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User avatar #150 to #146 - Sethorein ONLINE (12 minutes ago) [-]
But according to you they are two unique words describing the same thing, albeit one having alternative definitions that are irrelevant..
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User avatar #151 to #150 - captainprincess ONLINE (11 minutes ago) [-]
I dont know if the verb-half of sex is irrelevant
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User avatar #154 to #151 - Sethorein ONLINE (9 minutes ago) [-]
You're literally arguing semantics for a definition of sex that isn't being questioned here.

Sex (noun) - your biological sex.
Gender (noun) - the sex you identify as independent of your biological sex.

Now from what I have been trying to understand, you seem to be saying my second definition is incorrect. Can you please answer me straight rather than dancing around irrelevant semantic arguments relating to the words rather than the things the words describe?
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User avatar #155 to #154 - captainprincess ONLINE (8 minutes ago) [-]
actually Im dancing around the issue because it amuses me to deliberately avoid being straightforward and direct when someone tells you to be straightforward and direct
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User avatar #156 to #155 - Sethorein ONLINE (8 minutes ago) [-]
You weren't being straightforward or direct before I asked you to be straightforward and direct either. What was the excuse then?
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User avatar #157 to #156 - captainprincess ONLINE (7 minutes ago) [-]
The excuse was that even my initial indirect response is obvious enough
clarification is wholly unnecessary

so you needing clarification is silly and it amuses me to refuse you
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User avatar #160 to #157 - Sethorein ONLINE (4 minutes ago) [-]
Are you intending to clarify at all or should I just move on with my life?
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User avatar #161 to #160 - captainprincess ONLINE (4 minutes ago) [-]
Fine fine
I'll do it just for you bby

Sex = Gender
Gender = Sex

Except when sex is a verb
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User avatar #162 to #161 - Sethorein ONLINE (2 minutes ago) [-]
and trans folks?
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User avatar #3 - peanutsaurusrex ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-]
im a dual carbine quadraplenarian chromographic wolf cup grasskin, and this affends me
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#29 - anon (5 hours ago) [-]
Gender is literally none of the seven. None of them even come close to being acceptable inputs.
Sex is defined by body parts. Sex is defined by chromosomes.

Gender is a dynamic social construct of expectations related to an individual's specific sex.
Gender is, succinctly, "expectations people have of you strictly because of your sex regardless of your personality or what you identify as". That means you're expected to not wear bras if you're a male or piss while standing if you're a female.
If you're a woman and only 70% of the things you do are feminine rather than the expected 90-100%, all it says is you're a slightly masculine female, nothing more.

When generic forms ask for your "gender" rather than your "sex", it's because the forms are wrong.

"Relating to yourself" is also perhaps the stupidest most nonsensical string of words ever uttered, inherently not being able to mean anything or even imply anything whatsoever, resulting in the literal impossibility to even come remotely close to expressing any information at all.
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User avatar #121 to #29 - youregaylol (36 minutes ago) [-]
"Gender is a dynamic social construct"

nah
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User avatar #32 to #29 - novus (4 hours ago) [-]
Agreed. I know this site hates SJWs, but this content is exactly as stupid as a lot of the trash that gets posted in Tumblr
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User avatar #122 to #32 - youregaylol (36 minutes ago) [-]
nope
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User avatar #40 - morelazors (3 hours ago) [-]
What Is Your Gender?

Male

Female

Retarded
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#43 - Stevethewizard (3 hours ago) [-]
Listen here, you little **** .
"Gender" is psychological.
"Sex" is physiological.
"Sexuality" is what you're attracted to, between the two sexes and genders.
There's a reason they're different words. They're different words because "gender" is used in psychology, sociology, and (non-English) languages, and the term was developed for such uses. "Sex", on the other hand, is used in pure sciences such as medicine and genetics. "Sexuality" is simple enough, and is usually used by people describing themselves.
That's why surveys ask for your gender, hospital admission paperwork asks for your sex, and people looking for hookups are doing so based on their sexuality.

I hate having to explain this to those who don't actually do any sort of research on the differences in definition between similar terms before they pass on something they don't know about.
I'm saying this as someone who thinks the concept of "gender-fluidity" is ******** . The concept of gender is a psychological construct. If you consider yourself gender-fluid, you have a poorly developed sense of self, as your definition of yourself is in flux. You identify as either the gender coinciding with your sex, or the gender that coincides with the opposite sex.
Sex, on the other hand, isn't what you define as. It is defined at birth, and is unable to be changed, despite what some people may say, as turning your dick inside out doesn't give you a vagina, and you can't change your DNA.
Finally, there's sexuality, which falls into one of three categories: heterosexual (where you're attracted to the opposite sex and/or gender to yours), homosexual (where you're liable to post on /fit/ attracted to the same sex and/or gender as yours), and bisexual (where you're attracted to both the same and the opposite sex and/or gender).

tl;dr: OP is wrong, but nowhere near as wrong as tumblr, who insists gender and sexuality are spectrums, which is just an attempt to normalize their ******* fetishes and/or give themselves "special snowflake" status.
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#44 to #43 - Stevethewizard (3 hours ago) [-]
Disregard my attack on OP. Didn't read description before commenting.
My other points still stand. The "trigender pyrofox" ******** is exactly what I'm saying in the "tl;dr" section.
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#90 to #43 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
Hey that makes sense to me. I was getting gender and sexuality mixed up.

If sex is : male/female
then gender is : masculine/feminine
and sexuality is : hetero/homo/bi(etc?)

So you can be a boyish girl who likes men.
or a girly guy who likes guys.
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User avatar #97 - klina ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
As long as it's not hurting anyone, why bother refuting it? Let people be people or trigendered pyrofoxes
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User avatar #79 - aadenoto ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
Does it really matter? Why not just let people call themselves what they want, whether it's right or wrong?
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User avatar #84 to #79 - sircool (1 hour ago) [-]
well, if people are allowed to call themselves what they want, why not teach creationism? two plus two equal five? Left is right? Why? Because you feel that way.
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User avatar #99 to #84 - theism ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
"Allowing people to decide how to live their lives is the same as miseducating people on the fundamental aspects of reality."
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#116 to #99 - sircool (39 minutes ago) [-]
GIF
gender itself is a social construct, your sex is not. the bits that decide wither you're male or female are in every cell of your body from the moment your mother is impregnated. you can't be one thing and identify as another. It simply does not work that way.

you allowing them to do this because simply "it makes them feel better and doesn't effect me." is lazy and far too dismissive. Why not let the alcoholic have a few more drinks since you don't see them often? Let the drug addict feel good? The smoker? The suicide wanting depressed being who has no happiness that wants to end it all? "Being happy" doesn't equal good. That's why suicide rates are so high for people who actually do pull this **** . That's why a chunk of them regret doing it despite being in comforting support groups. That's why ******* the new head piece for it, jenner, is rumored to want to go back.

You don't care for these people, you only want to think you do for five minutes like a good stooge and not actually help them.
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User avatar #129 to #116 - theism ONLINE (30 minutes ago) [-]
This isn't referring to sex it's referring to gender though.

Drugs and alcohol kill you. Transexuals have a high suicide rate because of societal standards.
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#131 to #129 - sircool (25 minutes ago) [-]
you really expect me to believe that, in this day and age where if you don't support them in every aspect you are branded a red letter, that social standards are pounding down on them hard enough to drive them to this?

chocolate doesn't kill you, sweets don't kill you, gambling doesn't kill you. it's not an excuse.
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User avatar #163 to #131 - theism ONLINE (1 minute ago) [-]
You seem to have mistaken college clubs and tumblr comment sections as the world at large. Outside of those places bigotry against transwexuals is actually fairly commonplace.

Overeating chocolate and sweets leads to diabetes and obesity, which kills you. Abuse of gambling leads to poverty and debt, which kills you.
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User avatar #98 to #84 - aadenoto ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
It's not a matter of actual belief, just preference. I mean, you don't have to believe you were born as a unipangender 360 backflip 720 with extra cheese, but if you wanna wear it like a name then go right ahead IMO. I think the root of this problem is disagreement on what "gender" is. Many see it as a kind of identifier, and many see it as what chromosomes you were born with. Maybe the latter is correct for the definition of gender, but then there isn't really a name for the former.
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#124 to #98 - sircool (35 minutes ago) [-]
those people are morons.

sex is your chromosomes. what you are.

gender are the traits typically shown by either sex, that were used as communication as to compare in social aspects. Inanimate objects sharing the same words as the set in stone sex ones are evidence of this. But despite what you -say- you are, at your core, you are what your biological data is. They will not bury you in a hundred years and see that you got a sex change, they will see your bone structure and name you male or female.
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User avatar #128 to #124 - aadenoto ONLINE (30 minutes ago) [-]
I'm not against that, I just don't know why it matters. Maybe they are stupid, but is it really that much of an inconvenience to let them be stupid.
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#135 to #128 - sircool (21 minutes ago) [-]
because contrary to popular belief, a large portion of the population needs leadership to form an identity or feel good about themselves. Why do you think fascism, religious fanaticism, modern social justice etc. are so attractive?

well, that or my idea of what humanity is is true. A race of violent problem solvers, where if there are no problems they make their own.
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User avatar #86 to #79 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
I think it might get too complicated for important things that might not have time for that.
Like filling out documents for.. your car, or a school, or a job, or w/e.
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User avatar #101 to #86 - aadenoto ONLINE (58 minutes ago) [-]
That is a good point, it certainly does complicate things. Other than for medical reasons though, why is gender relevant to documents like those?
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User avatar #109 to #101 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (50 minutes ago) [-]
I don't know but I've been seeing 'other' along with male and female, and I think sjws just feel like nobody cares about their imaginary gender because it's just 'other' like ya know you don't need to be specific.
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User avatar #112 to #109 - aadenoto ONLINE (45 minutes ago) [-]
Yeah, m/f/other is really enough when it comes to stuff like that. Somebody's always gonna feel marginalized, you can't keep up with all these hipster genders
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#141 to #79 - anon (15 minutes ago) [-]
because sheep need everything categorized into black and white terms to help them make life simple
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User avatar #147 to #79 - osetinka ONLINE (12 minutes ago) [-]
SHORT ANSWER:
People can call themselves whatever they want but they cannot demand different rights based on what they think they are.

KEEP READING FOR LONG ANSWER:

A male cannot demand to use the women's restroom because he thinks that he is a woman. If that was the norm, think of all the creeper guys that would be able to say that that they identified as women for the simple purpose of getting into the female bathrooms to perv. There is no concrete way to prove one way or the other.
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User avatar #71 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
Excuse you, i am skeletor-kin.
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#87 to #71 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
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Nice try, but everyone knows you're actually a skeleton.
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User avatar #91 to #87 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
well i mean i have a skeleton. but only my skull is out.

I'm like shadow Demon from Dota 2.
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User avatar #57 - heine ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
I think it's kind of a statement. Although my emotional opinion which I can't change is that these people are all faggots and attention whores who pull pronouns out of their asses, I've reached a logical conclusion that you should just let cultural / societal expression develop as it has in the past (women are legit too, gays are legit too, trans people are legit too, and now genderqueer people are legit too).
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User avatar #56 - volcanicdiarrhea ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
There was a time when claiming to be part animal would have gotten you thrown into a padded cell.
Can we make this a thing, again?
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#19 - anon (6 hours ago) [-]
gender is either male or female. even intersex people have a more prominent gender. transgender-ism occurs when one's brain is wired to be the opposite gender than their body thereby causing gender dysphoria. you can not be trans without gender dysphoria. i'm not sure how right i am, but by what i've read and experienced, this is my conclusion.
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