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User avatar #79 - aadenoto ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
Does it really matter? Why not just let people call themselves what they want, whether it's right or wrong?
User avatar #384 to #79 - durkadurka (12 hours ago) [-]
They already do that. What they want is to force everyone else to abide by their special snowflake delusions.
User avatar #147 to #79 - osetinka (20 hours ago) [-]
SHORT ANSWER:
People can call themselves whatever they want but they cannot demand different rights based on what they think they are.

KEEP READING FOR LONG ANSWER:

A male cannot demand to use the women's restroom because he thinks that he is a woman. If that was the norm, think of all the creeper guys that would be able to say that that they identified as women for the simple purpose of getting into the female bathrooms to perv. There is no concrete way to prove one way or the other.
#141 to #79 - anon (20 hours ago) [-]
because sheep need everything categorized into black and white terms to help them make life simple
User avatar #86 to #79 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
I think it might get too complicated for important things that might not have time for that.
Like filling out documents for.. your car, or a school, or a job, or w/e.
#341 to #86 - tanitakavirius (15 hours ago) [-]
Or we could just simplify this instead of making it more complicated. Don't put those "Male/Female" boxes in those forms.
Problem solved.
User avatar #101 to #86 - aadenoto ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
That is a good point, it certainly does complicate things. Other than for medical reasons though, why is gender relevant to documents like those?
User avatar #109 to #101 - sequel [OP]ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
I don't know but I've been seeing 'other' along with male and female, and I think sjws just feel like nobody cares about their imaginary gender because it's just 'other' like ya know you don't need to be specific.
User avatar #112 to #109 - aadenoto ONLINE (20 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, m/f/other is really enough when it comes to stuff like that. Somebody's always gonna feel marginalized, you can't keep up with all these hipster genders
User avatar #84 to #79 - sircool (21 hours ago) [-]
well, if people are allowed to call themselves what they want, why not teach creationism? two plus two equal five? Left is right? Why? Because you feel that way.
User avatar #99 to #84 - theism ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
"Allowing people to decide how to live their lives is the same as miseducating people on the fundamental aspects of reality."
#116 to #99 - sircool (20 hours ago) [-]
GIF
gender itself is a social construct, your sex is not. the bits that decide wither you're male or female are in every cell of your body from the moment your mother is impregnated. you can't be one thing and identify as another. It simply does not work that way.

you allowing them to do this because simply "it makes them feel better and doesn't effect me." is lazy and far too dismissive. Why not let the alcoholic have a few more drinks since you don't see them often? Let the drug addict feel good? The smoker? The suicide wanting depressed being who has no happiness that wants to end it all? "Being happy" doesn't equal good. That's why suicide rates are so high for people who actually do pull this **** . That's why a chunk of them regret doing it despite being in comforting support groups. That's why ******* the new head piece for it, jenner, is rumored to want to go back.

You don't care for these people, you only want to think you do for five minutes like a good stooge and not actually help them.
User avatar #129 to #116 - theism ONLINE (20 hours ago) [-]
This isn't referring to sex it's referring to gender though.

Drugs and alcohol kill you. Transexuals have a high suicide rate because of societal standards.
#131 to #129 - sircool (20 hours ago) [-]
you really expect me to believe that, in this day and age where if you don't support them in every aspect you are branded a red letter, that social standards are pounding down on them hard enough to drive them to this?

chocolate doesn't kill you, sweets don't kill you, gambling doesn't kill you. it's not an excuse.
User avatar #163 to #131 - theism ONLINE (20 hours ago) [-]
You seem to have mistaken college clubs and tumblr comment sections as the world at large. Outside of those places bigotry against transwexuals is actually fairly commonplace.

Overeating chocolate and sweets leads to diabetes and obesity, which kills you. Abuse of gambling leads to poverty and debt, which kills you.
#165 to #163 - sircool (20 hours ago) [-]
GIF
it doesn't matter what you deem "the world at large" it matters what is done to anyone who ever gets air-time saying **** against them. they're torn down and destroyed.

and acting on insecurity confirms that insecurity and allows it to grow, until it envelopes their mind leading them to kill themselves....which kills you.
User avatar #167 to #165 - theism ONLINE (20 hours ago) [-]
Do you have any evidence that anyone has ever had their life ruined by this?

What the **** are you talking about?
#176 to #167 - sircool (20 hours ago) [-]
the media's sudden silence on jenner, since we've lumped LGBT together so much, saying something against gays or any of them gets you entire silence on a speaking forum or at the very least one kept that contained and not likely to grow, only wilt. Tell me how hard the media hyped about it, but as soon as he said one thing about gays being bad, sudden silence.

the entire ordeal stems from a massive insecurity on their identity that they need solidified because what are you if you can't identify yourself?
User avatar #180 to #176 - theism ONLINE (20 hours ago) [-]
What about Jenner has come out that's newsworthy since then? The media silence on the topic could very well be due to the absolute lack of news.

Not so much insecurity as conflict between perception and identification. One considers themselves one way yet the way others and often themselves perceive them doesn't match. That conflict causes self doubt and yes insecurity. But it isn't the insecurity isn't what they feed into.
User avatar #98 to #84 - aadenoto ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
It's not a matter of actual belief, just preference. I mean, you don't have to believe you were born as a unipangender 360 backflip 720 with extra cheese, but if you wanna wear it like a name then go right ahead IMO. I think the root of this problem is disagreement on what "gender" is. Many see it as a kind of identifier, and many see it as what chromosomes you were born with. Maybe the latter is correct for the definition of gender, but then there isn't really a name for the former.
#124 to #98 - sircool (20 hours ago) [-]
those people are morons.

sex is your chromosomes. what you are.

gender are the traits typically shown by either sex, that were used as communication as to compare in social aspects. Inanimate objects sharing the same words as the set in stone sex ones are evidence of this. But despite what you -say- you are, at your core, you are what your biological data is. They will not bury you in a hundred years and see that you got a sex change, they will see your bone structure and name you male or female.
User avatar #128 to #124 - aadenoto ONLINE (20 hours ago) [-]
I'm not against that, I just don't know why it matters. Maybe they are stupid, but is it really that much of an inconvenience to let them be stupid.
#135 to #128 - sircool (20 hours ago) [-]
because contrary to popular belief, a large portion of the population needs leadership to form an identity or feel good about themselves. Why do you think fascism, religious fanaticism, modern social justice etc. are so attractive?

well, that or my idea of what humanity is is true. A race of violent problem solvers, where if there are no problems they make their own.
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