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vissova (03/28/2015) [-] 
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70% TF2, 20% MLP, 10% edgey ****
It was painful looking through all of it.
70% TF2, 20% MLP, 10% edgey ****
It was painful looking through all of it.
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lordraine ONLINE (03/28/2015) [-]
I wouldn't really call Kill la Kill edgy, to be honest. The clothes run on blood, but it was symbolism for both how the clothes were actually parasites as well as for female menstration in general, re: the two primary characters in the series.
It was far too comedic a series to be called edgy. It had some of the trappings of edge, I will grant you, but nobody would have called the Shadow the Hedgehog game edgy if he stopped every five seconds to throw a pool party or get into wacky sparkle fights with people who have superpowers based off of school club activities.
Tone is important. Kill la Kill had the colors and the blood, but not the tone or atmosphere. Not unless you want to stand there and tell me that Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann was 'edgy' as well.
It was far too comedic a series to be called edgy. It had some of the trappings of edge, I will grant you, but nobody would have called the Shadow the Hedgehog game edgy if he stopped every five seconds to throw a pool party or get into wacky sparkle fights with people who have superpowers based off of school club activities.
Tone is important. Kill la Kill had the colors and the blood, but not the tone or atmosphere. Not unless you want to stand there and tell me that Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann was 'edgy' as well.
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certifiedidiot (03/28/2015) [-] Of course it's not edgy, people would be wrong to think so, but they'd be highly correct to think it's rather autistic.
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gameshredder (03/28/2015) [-] I agree with this. I was walking with my friend and he pointed out a group of mexican guys who were just jumping around and laughing with each other and he called them edgy. He couldn't for the life of explain what about them was edgy, only the fact that they annoyed him.
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nathanbiggs ONLINE (03/28/2015) [-] What's the point in stating facts?
Uncle Dante>Pretty much every other Dante incarnation.
Uncle Dante>Pretty much every other Dante incarnation.
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flnonymousseven ONLINE (03/27/2015) [-] how is kill la kill edgy, its a show a bout rainbows, nudists and alien clothing. <-- actual spoiler
it seemed pretty ridiculous, overtly over the top, and self referential when I watched it. other than her colorscheme, the MC is't really dark and gritty,
it seemed pretty ridiculous, overtly over the top, and self referential when I watched it. other than her colorscheme, the MC is't really dark and gritty,
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anon (03/27/2015) [-]
Because the term 'edgy' has lost any semblance of meaning it had, which I'd argue was pretty much nothing to begin with.
Seriously, no one has any ******* clue what edgy means anymore. Instead applying it to anything and everything that might be considered remotely serious or dark.
Seriously, no one has any ******* clue what edgy means anymore. Instead applying it to anything and everything that might be considered remotely serious or dark.
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Shmooglavoue (03/27/2015) [-]
Sorry but, what? There's no protagonist in fiction that is not a mary sue? Not a one? In all of fiction?
Maybe you could argue that for video games, since the main character needs to be strong for gameplay reasons, but even that is stretching it. To apply it to all fiction is absurd.
Maybe you could argue that for video games, since the main character needs to be strong for gameplay reasons, but even that is stretching it. To apply it to all fiction is absurd.
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angelious (03/28/2015) [-] no it quite literally means. any character in existence can be a mary sue.
batman is mary sue. superman is mary sue.goku is mary sue.cassandra cain is mary sue.
the term started as an insult towards badly made fanfic characters, it then started to refer to any character who had no flaws. then people started to write "flawed" character that still were perfect in a way. and after that **** has just gone bonkers. EVERYTHING. is a mary sue.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue
you can point out any character in fiction. and im quite sure one can easily point it out as mary sue since the term has lost its meaning.same with cliche.
batman is mary sue. superman is mary sue.goku is mary sue.cassandra cain is mary sue.
the term started as an insult towards badly made fanfic characters, it then started to refer to any character who had no flaws. then people started to write "flawed" character that still were perfect in a way. and after that **** has just gone bonkers. EVERYTHING. is a mary sue.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue
you can point out any character in fiction. and im quite sure one can easily point it out as mary sue since the term has lost its meaning.same with cliche.
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Shmooglavoue (03/28/2015) [-]
That's just people using the term poorly. It doesn't mean that there isn't purpose behind the original meaning.
For example, just because people abuse the word "epic" a lot nowadays doesn't mean that the original meaning is necessarily defunct. It just means that you roll your eyes whenever you run into some teenager talking about their epic cheeseburger or something.
I think the problem is more that people seem to latch onto a small number of words and then throw them around on almost everything because they haven't learned enough words to more accurately describe specific phenomena, or otherwise did not give much thought into whether or not they are using the word correctly. This is further compounded by a number of factors: the relative recency of the terms like "mary sue" and "edgy", the trend to push categories onto things (and subsequently the push to use these new terms onto everything), the subjective nature of these terms, and finally the inherently modular nature of language.
Also, just because you "could" argue for a protagonist to be mary sue, doesn't mean you're anywhere close to being right. Just like you "could" argue that evolution doesn't exist, and even convince a few misguided people, but all of the scientific evidence collected suggests otherwise.
For example, just because people abuse the word "epic" a lot nowadays doesn't mean that the original meaning is necessarily defunct. It just means that you roll your eyes whenever you run into some teenager talking about their epic cheeseburger or something.
I think the problem is more that people seem to latch onto a small number of words and then throw them around on almost everything because they haven't learned enough words to more accurately describe specific phenomena, or otherwise did not give much thought into whether or not they are using the word correctly. This is further compounded by a number of factors: the relative recency of the terms like "mary sue" and "edgy", the trend to push categories onto things (and subsequently the push to use these new terms onto everything), the subjective nature of these terms, and finally the inherently modular nature of language.
Also, just because you "could" argue for a protagonist to be mary sue, doesn't mean you're anywhere close to being right. Just like you "could" argue that evolution doesn't exist, and even convince a few misguided people, but all of the scientific evidence collected suggests otherwise.
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angelious (03/28/2015) [-] evolution =/= dictionary words
when i said could. i mean could. i can say batman is mary sue, i can say shrek is mary sue, i can say superman is a mary sue, i can say admin is a mary sue,i can say peter parker is a mary sue. the term has spawned so many sub categories and the original term has been bastardized to the point that its no longer viable as it once was.
same way you dont talk about bundle of sticks as a faggot anymore.
and outside of australia,how many people use gay the way it was used to?
words change,their meaning change. sometimes words become obsolete due to how far it is streched. as of now. the term mary sue no longer really means anything more than an insult towards a character you dont like.
when i said could. i mean could. i can say batman is mary sue, i can say shrek is mary sue, i can say superman is a mary sue, i can say admin is a mary sue,i can say peter parker is a mary sue. the term has spawned so many sub categories and the original term has been bastardized to the point that its no longer viable as it once was.
same way you dont talk about bundle of sticks as a faggot anymore.
and outside of australia,how many people use gay the way it was used to?
words change,their meaning change. sometimes words become obsolete due to how far it is streched. as of now. the term mary sue no longer really means anything more than an insult towards a character you dont like.
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EFGsBrother (03/28/2015) [-] A bit late, but I'd like to clarify what he's saying.
I believe he meant that people judging fiction (in particular, people judging it negatively) often state that tropes being used by the author are cliches and that a main character with any semblance of competency is Mary Sue.
In actuality these people are just using this to find fault in a work which may not be there because "This author's writing style and narrations choices seem trite." and "This author is so cliche!" have very different meanings. Likewise, "This character is an overpowered Mary Sue!" means something very different from "The main character had an awfully convenient skill in that situation. Perhaps the author hadn't fleshed that out properly?"
I believe he meant that people judging fiction (in particular, people judging it negatively) often state that tropes being used by the author are cliches and that a main character with any semblance of competency is Mary Sue.
In actuality these people are just using this to find fault in a work which may not be there because "This author's writing style and narrations choices seem trite." and "This author is so cliche!" have very different meanings. Likewise, "This character is an overpowered Mary Sue!" means something very different from "The main character had an awfully convenient skill in that situation. Perhaps the author hadn't fleshed that out properly?"
#86
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matoromahri (03/28/2015) [-] I feel like this whole edgy thing has reached critical mass, sort of like the fedora deal. I mean nowadays god forbid you say you're an atheist on the internet before you get 200 people all screaming about MLP and Doritos and m'lady and the whole shebang.
This has gotten sort of similar -- god forbid you listen to Green Day or wear a black T-shirt or express the slightest cynicism and another 300 all yelling about emo and "no one understands me" and "I hate my parents" and blah blah blah. Annoys the **** out of me.
/rant
This has gotten sort of similar -- god forbid you listen to Green Day or wear a black T-shirt or express the slightest cynicism and another 300 all yelling about emo and "no one understands me" and "I hate my parents" and blah blah blah. Annoys the **** out of me.
/rant
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bendingtimeisgood ONLINE (03/28/2015) [-] I'm an atheist who listens to Avenged Sevenfold.
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mitdwit ONLINE (03/27/2015) [-] Dante was edgy, like telling angels to **** off, but he wasn't cringe-edgy minus the trenchcoat .
He was just a rightfully entitled asshole who didn't give a damn. Who wouldn't be if they were the superpowered spawn of an angel and a demon?
He was just a rightfully entitled asshole who didn't give a damn. Who wouldn't be if they were the superpowered spawn of an angel and a demon?
#24
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lyiat (03/27/2015) [-] Did you actually play the new DMC? Sure, it has an angsty moment here or there, but the guy is basically the same as old Dante.
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Johnsfer (03/28/2015) [-] It's more about the setting.
This dante was fighting for the "little guy" and hated the government. He generally seemed like a little douchebag and didn't really come off as cool. He had some good one liners and had something to say at least but he seemed cocky in the way that he would start talking **** to someone important because he wanted to see them get angry.
"Old" dante didn't really fight for any mission other than to get rid of demons. He did what was right generally, was cocky but he was cocky because he knew he was better than whoever he was fighting. He wasn't fighting against the man because he hated the government, he was fighting against demons because they are little ***** and he is making the world a generally better place.
This dante was fighting for the "little guy" and hated the government. He generally seemed like a little douchebag and didn't really come off as cool. He had some good one liners and had something to say at least but he seemed cocky in the way that he would start talking **** to someone important because he wanted to see them get angry.
"Old" dante didn't really fight for any mission other than to get rid of demons. He did what was right generally, was cocky but he was cocky because he knew he was better than whoever he was fighting. He wasn't fighting against the man because he hated the government, he was fighting against demons because they are little ***** and he is making the world a generally better place.
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Shmooglavoue (03/27/2015) [-]
It's not Dante himself that is so much the problem in Devil May Cringe, but rather the incompetent attempt to make a politically charged story out of a source material that had was essentially corny action-shlock (but fun) that had nothing to do with politics.
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imnotkickthecat (03/28/2015) [-] kill la kill had way more stupid over the top humor than anything 'edgy'.
