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#313 - antoniospaghettio (11/30/2013) [-]
**** you OP: you think beating up your dog is bad, but chopping off his balls is good.
Neutering is abuse. Just because not neutered pet is inconvenient for you, doesn't mean it will be better for him. I've done research on this topic: all pro's of neutering are good fo humans, and all the cons are for the animal basically.
I honestly don't buy this "overpopulation" crap - there are 6-7 billion humans on earth, no one seems to care.

We adopted 3 neutered cats, all of them were plants - you could really see the depression in their eyes.
While our intact cats were always full of life. Especially these gorgeous Siamese cats (my cat on the picture). Actually, we were thinking of getting him a girlfriend.
User avatar #362 to #313 - rakuraimasuta (11/30/2013) [-]
My family has neutered all of our pets and they didn't change at all. I guess it just differs from pet to pet. Also my dog had breast cancer so we had to neuter her or she would have died.
#350 to #313 - jefftheturtle ONLINE (11/30/2013) [-]
In my city the overpopulation is very real. You see homeless cats everyday who are too damn scared to let you approach them. You dogs less often but that's just because they can't survive as well. either they die or they get picked up and sent to the pound. I actually found a pitbull on the street that I kept because I knew that if I sent her to a shelter she would probably end up getting put down. But regardless it is a very sad sight seeing hungry, beat up cats that run away from you or try to attack you when you just want to help. I have spayed and neutered all of my pets(2 cats and 3 dogs) and none of them were affected at all, except one my my cats which actually became more affectionate afterwards.
#378 to #350 - antoniospaghettio (11/30/2013) [-]
Yes, there are a lot of poor homeless pets - we tried adopting some from the shelter, but it never worked out unfortunately. But there are even more starving people, sick and homeless people on earth - does it mean we should start castrating humans?
User avatar #402 to #378 - pwnsomelink (11/30/2013) [-]
I kinda think we should
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User avatar #335 to #313 - akkere ONLINE (11/30/2013) [-]
Thumbed you up mostly to cancel out the red thumb because yes, plenty of pets actually might have a change of mentality if they were neutered/spayed post-infant (that's the word for it, right?).

However, not ALL of the pros are strictly to the advantage of humans - you're wrong on that end. Plenty of reasons for neutering your pet is to make sure that, in the event they decide to up and leave the house (cats do this a lot, regardless of whether the owner is caring or not). Someone I knew actually had a similar mentality to yours that they never spayed their cat, and when she up and bolted out of the home (probably because she was in heat) she came back impregnated by another neighborhood cat, as well as bloodied and beaten for a reason she never found out.
#384 to #335 - antoniospaghettio (11/30/2013) [-]
Yes, my cat leaves the house anytime he wants, but he always comes back.
And he comes beaten up a lot (scars from scratches) - from fights with other cats. But it's his nature, I accept that.
I also accept the risk of hims catching some disease (he is vaccinated though), getting chased by dogs, or getting hit by a car.
He is a part of our family, I don't own his life: he is free to do whatever he wants (expect for annihilating our furniture).

People always try to impose their way of living upon other animals, I don't agree. Let nature run its course, like it has done for billions of years. We are really just guests on this planet.
User avatar #389 to #384 - akkere ONLINE (11/30/2013) [-]
And what if one day your cat didn't return? Are you so certain you'd still hold your head high with your whole "Let it be as nature intended" philosophy?

A philosophy which, by the way, is technically invalid from the very beginning due in part of the state of domestication being something done by the hands of humans and selective breeding - neutering and spaying is merely an extension of that.
#441 to #389 - antoniospaghettio (11/30/2013) [-]
By "always comes back", I mean unless they are dead.
And yes, it has happend several times before. And I am very sad when it happens.
But at least I can say that they lived like free animals - better to have a short free life, than a much longer life in captivity.

Actually, cats are the only species that domesticated themselves. Some small wild cats decided to stick with humans: it was beneficial for both. No one forced them.

Dog is a different kind of animal, it needs leadership.
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User avatar #329 to #313 - kanduhuskedetder ONLINE (11/30/2013) [-]
What the **** ? Yes, I agree, it is a very bad idea to neuter animals (Unless they're sick). But why the **** is OP an ******* ? He ******* saved a dog from abusive owners! You should at least be happy for that.
#380 to #329 - antoniospaghettio (11/30/2013) [-]
Because OP is always a ****** , no matter what.
#326 to #313 - rennd (11/30/2013) [-]
Pets often die of prostate cancer if not neutered. Neutering completely removes that possibility, captain sassy.
#337 to #326 - antoniospaghettio (11/30/2013) [-]
Some studies have showed the opposite.
Here is the source: Teske, E.; Naan, E. C.; Van Dijk, E. M.; Van Garderen, E.; Schalken, J. A. (2002). "Canine prostate carcinoma: epidemiological evidence of an increased risk in castrated dogs". Molecular and Cellular Endocrinology 197 (1–2): 251–5. doi:10.1016/S0303-7207(02)00261-7. PMID 12431819.

What is your source? Just people telling?

User avatar #318 to #313 - kalloway (11/30/2013) [-]
When did he say anything about it being neutered? You're a moron.
User avatar #323 to #318 - fukkenname (11/30/2013) [-]
"... And don't vaccinate, neuter, or microchip her."
it says it right before the dog escaping part
moron
User avatar #327 to #323 - runapuff (11/30/2013) [-]
But you don't neuter female dogs.
User avatar #330 to #327 - fukkenname (11/30/2013) [-]
Well you can. it's called spaying
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User avatar #360 to #355 - fukkenname (11/30/2013) [-]
Spaying is still a form of neutering
User avatar #359 to #355 - rakuraimasuta (11/30/2013) [-]
Oh wait I ****** up never mind.
Neutering does count as both spaying and castrating.
User avatar #361 to #359 - fukkenname (11/30/2013) [-]
You're a good man
User avatar #363 to #361 - rakuraimasuta (11/30/2013) [-]
Thank you : D
User avatar #332 to #330 - runapuff (11/30/2013) [-]
That's what I was referring to. You still can't neuter a female dog, you have to spay them.
#353 to #332 - rprzombie (11/30/2013) [-]
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Thats retarded. You were wrong, just ******* deal bro.

You look dumb right now, it happens to everyone. It's not a big deal, don't make it a spectacle.
User avatar #336 to #332 - fukkenname (11/30/2013) [-]
Isn't spaying still a form of neutering?
Because or else, wouldn't you be able to say that you cannot neuter a male dog, you can only castrate it?
User avatar #324 to #321 - kalloway (11/30/2013) [-]
Alright, you were right. That was my bad. Apologies. But that's still missing the complete basis of the content
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