The Crimean Crisis Timeline - In Depth. Please give constructive criticism. Ill be happy to do another Crisis if you ask me to... THANK YOU for finally reminding the on this site that the protesters did NOT start the violence and that they've been peacefully protesting for at least a few m
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The Crimean Crisis Timeline - In Depth

Please give constructive criticism. Ill be happy to do another Crisis if you ask me to.

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#1 - roadrager (03/27/2014) [+] (2 replies)
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Thanks for reading. Here are some crazy pictures of the rioting I uploaded before: www.funnyjunk.com/Fighting+in+Kiev/funny-pictures/5026527/

Like this up or reply to tell me what other Crisis to cover.
User avatar #77 - roadrager (03/28/2014) [+] (4 replies)
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Ok I am aware that different countries get different news back from Crimea but I am not trying to post propaganda and anyone suggesting so will have their idiotic comment deleted.

No the rioters were not neo-nazis there isnt 800,000 neo nazis in Ukraine
Yes im sorry for saying it was a rigged referendum however it was not a legal one.

If I got something wrong please just reply to this comment with what I didn't cover or covered wrong...

Also im not ******* American so everyone who accuses me of being biased to that view is also wrong
User avatar #8 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (03/28/2014) [+] (7 replies)
THANK YOU for finally reminding the ********* on this site that the protesters did NOT start the violence and that they've been peacefully protesting for at least a few months on end!

I know it's hard for someone NOT living in a Central-Eastern European country with a former communist history to understand just how deep and rooted corruption & oligarchy works here... but I'll just say this: most likely Yanukovich became even richer than one of our former Prime Ministers (Adrian Nastase), who in the period of 2000-2004, during his mandate, signed a ONE BILLION DOLLAR contract with Bechtel for a several hundred kilometer highway, out of which only a few dozen kms were actually built.
Yes, people, politicians in this area are doing ONE BILLION DOLLAR fraud schemes. And getting away with it (he was sentenced to jail for a whole other reason)

And yes, I know that Yulia Tymoshenko is by no means a completely clean politician... BUT, just like everybody else on this planet, she deserved a FAIR trial. Which DID NOT happen, otherwise you wouldn't have had most of the UN countries trying to intervene on her behalf. FFS, laws were changed in the Parliament so that they were able to find her guilty and lock her away.
What happened when they released her was simply returning those modified laws to their original state.

tl;dr - **** Russia and any pro-Russia communist politician, like Yanukovich (who should be obvious to everyone that he has totalitarian tendencies). Anyone sane minded would instantly see that the EU is the way lesser evil than the CIS
#20 - joekerr (03/28/2014) [+] (17 replies)
This timeline, roadrager, is a summary of the usual ******** you see in the media. I'll repeat relevant facts from a previous rant*).

First off: I am not Pro-Russion, but I am also not Pro-(USA+EU)- ******************* . I am objective, and I see that the western media are ******* lying and spreading hypocrisy all over the place

What wasn't covered:

The protests:
You do realize those there neo-nazis and puppets of the west?
These are videos from anonymous; I do not have anything equally describing it this well in English. Imho this is a little bit too pro-russian, but it hits the nail at his head, this says what the media don't want you to hear.
Anonymous - Message From Ukraine 2014
Anonymous - Update On Ukraine Crisis 2014
Anonymous - Ukraine is Being Used
This whole Ukranian crisis was caused by economical interests ... not some human rights thing. Open your ******* eyes o.O! Right now neo-facists are called "reforming democrats". Hypocrisy. Timoschenko is a billionaire because of gas-trade. Not saying she was rightfully imprisoned, just saying she is not any better than the other ones. Her candidature for presidency in May is very disputed!

Crimea and Russia
- Crimea is an autonom republic
- the sovereignty is "disputed"; Russia or Ukraine
- people were arguing about this **** since over 20 years, most people on this site are not even alive that long
- Russia's army being at the harbor there was legit; they pay ******* much money for this right
- 90 %? Get your facts straight: " 54% of the Crimean voters supported independence with a 60% turnout (in Sevastopol 57% supported independence)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea#Autonomous_Republic_within_Ukraine_.281991.E2.80.93Present.29

*) Previous rant: www.funnyjunk.com/channel/america/oh+look/urmBLhe/24#24
User avatar #23 to #20 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (03/28/2014) [-]
"Neo-nazis"? So that is how you call people that have been fed up with corruption & thievery from public money, in pure Balkanic post-communism style, and have decided to stand up for themselves?

Newsflash, kid: There were over 800k people in the streets, protesting!
There is only one political power in Ukraine that tends to be overly nationalistic, and that's Svoboda. Do you really think that Svoboda can rally 800k people by itself?!

For ****** sake, may I remind you that people in Sofia, Bulgaria also took the streets because they had enough of crony, crooked Bolshevik politicians? Are we forgetting that people in this area of Europe have reached a point where they'll even set themselves on fire to make a point?

In Ukraine, people have risen against Yanukovic and against affiliating with Russia. GOOD!
In Turkey, people have risen against Erdogan for various reasons. GOOD!
FYI, Erdogan has now banned not only Twitter, but also YouTube.

But hey, apparently the simple Bolshevik rhetoric that everyone against them is a fascist/nazi seems to work perfectly with the simple-minded...
User avatar #26 - samxdaxman (03/28/2014) [+] (1 reply)
And all you ******* care about is "OOOH, RUSSIA HAS A UBER KAWAII LADY TALKING ABOUT UKRAINE!!!!!"
I always found the obsession over Natalia kinda creepy, but the fact it overshadowed the events in Ukraine annoyed me to no end. Thank you OP for posting this since I couldn't find any info, just reports that " ****** still going down in Ukraine."
#105 - secretlybatman (03/28/2014) [+] (7 replies)
Ignore that there were protests in the Crimea as groups wanted to join Russia. Sure the election was rigged but there was still a chance the majority would have voted to join Russia. A lot of the major protesters and ring leaders were fascists and have been given seats in the new parliament. The Russia kind of had its hand forced, they had a chance at getting the Crimea with a vote but the Ukrainian government and EU would not have allowed it. I still think the invasion was wrong but can understand why the Russians felt the need to do it.
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User avatar #99 - gonzoen (03/28/2014) [+] (4 replies)
You forgot a very important thing: Crimea was Russian from 1783 to 1991. Under USSR rule, it was made part of Ukraine for administrative purposes. When Ukraine became independant, Crim continued to be part of Ukriane.
So TL;DR: Crim was Russian for 208 years, and has only been part of Ukraine for 23 years.

"Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate during the 15th to 18th century before falling to the Russian Empire and being organised as its Taurida Oblast in 1783. In the 20th century, the Soviet Crimean Oblast was transferred from Russia to Ukraine; it eventually became the Autonomous Republic of Crimea within newly independent Ukraine in 1991. The status of Sevastopol, a strategically important port and the peninsula's largest city, was disputed by the Russian Federation, and only after a lengthy process was it declared a "city with special status" within Ukraine in 1997."
User avatar #27 - mykoira (03/28/2014) [+] (3 replies)
We need to go deeper! The history between Crimea and Russia begins when Russia invaded Crimea in 1783 form Crimean Khanate. In 1918 Germany took Crimea from Bolsheviks but Russia got it back in 1920. In 1946 Soviet Union ended the autonomy of Crimea and in 1954 Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (the Russian part of Soviet Union) gave it to Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (the Ukrainian part of Soviet Union) which was the first time Crimea was part of Ukraine.
#120 - serotonin (03/28/2014) [+] (5 replies)
What load of....
-Ok. Lets start from start. Crimea was Russian land gifted to Ukraine by Soviet union against its constitution
-Estonian prime minister (Estonia has strong anti russian sentiment) stated that Estonian intelligence found out that snipers that were shooting demonstrators were hired by demonstration leaders to get larger domestic and international support.
-Police used force but so did protestors. You have posted picture of police man with his god damn head on fire! Ofcourse they are going to ramp up the violence
- Parlament voted president to be removed - what you failed to mention is that vote was held with ARMED DEMONSTRATORS inside of parlament. Also you failed to mention little detail that they even at gun point they didnt have enought votes to remove president , they lacked 3% but they descided to ignore constitution and to proclaim that they have removed him true ``free voting``
-Do you know why new govermant made this new national guard? Mostly because new govermant has problem controling regular army.

-MOST IMPORTANT part that you failed to mention is that international observers judged Crimean election to be FREE AND DEMOCRATIC.
``None of the 135 international observers registered any violations.[15] The EODE observer mission concluded that the referendum was conducted freely and fairly.[17]
Milan Šarapatka reported that the referendum was formally regular and that there was no evidence of pressure on voters.[130] According to Miloslav Soušek, everything was standard, the course of the referendum was comparable to the elections in the Czech Republic, he saw no soldiers in the town``.
- Rant over. I have calmed down a bit. have a nice day
#114 - interceptorr (03/28/2014) [+] (1 reply)
This is pretty BS'd and misses many crucial facts. Also there were international observers present which said that it was a legal referendum. People please don't believe this "timeline".
#57 - whothefkisanon (03/28/2014) [+] (5 replies)
2 really important things you missed imo (good comp though):

* Russia mainly wants Crimea because it's where its primary naval military base is located. After the declaration of independence of Ukraine, some treaties were made to let the Russians use the port for a certain period of time, that should have been renewed recently, or in the near future (too lazy to look it up). Without that port, the Russians would be ****** . Seeing that russian support in Ukraine was going down, Putin probably feared losing his most important naval base close to Europe.

* The "indigenous" inhabitants of the Crimea peninsula were the Tatars (prolly not historically correct, but you get the point). During the world wars (and afterwords) the Russians treated the Tatars like the Nazis treated the Jews and displaced their families, split them up, put them into Gulags (working camps in siberia, comparable to KZs), and other cruel stuff. After that period, they all settled down in Crimea again, when they thought it was safe. They absolutely fear and hate the Russians, so even before the referendum a lot of them already moved to mainland Ukraine. The referendum was obviously rigged, as they make about 13% of the Crimean population (do the math, statistically seen, only 87% could have been in favor). That's the reason why Putin declared that Tatarian will be one official language to calm down that minority.

Pic related, read international news from different countries and political spectra
#43 - Womens Study Major (03/28/2014) [+] (5 replies)
one sided, and wrong, for the most part.

1/10 for the effort
go and talk to some ukrainians and look for some objective reports rather than make a collage on the joke that is called the western media.

Fact; the guy who calls himself prime minister of Ukraine right now, his party had 12% in the last elections (for americans, they dont have the two-party system, its usual for alot of countries to have 4-5 parties with over 10% votes). As in: his party was 4th or 5th on the list. Yet somehow after the big revolution they end up top? Note that his party was the only overtly Pro-EU party of ukraine.
You really think the EU had no part in this?

Tip: its all about gas/oil, Obama is in Brussels right now talking to the EU about how, considering the EU and America obviously cant buy gas from a devil like russia and noone knows whats going on with ukraine, guess theyll have to start drilling in alaska to sell it to the poor EU.
#49 to #43 - mrtotal (03/28/2014) [-]
Why would the US want to "buy gas from Russia" The US has more than enough gas to support itself.
#4 - ballwaffle (03/28/2014) [+] (4 replies)
i live in the us and every time i try to find news on the ukraine i get either generic news or russian news reports translated to english
what the **** man?
#36 to #4 - adrenalinbbq (03/28/2014) [-]
The only story I ever see on our news is about the missing plane.

Newsflash! It's still ******* missing. Meanwhile, just North of the last known location, hundreds of thousands of lives are at stake...
#118 - shrolen (03/28/2014) [+] (4 replies)
Pro-tip: If you are going to rig an election to annex something, don't say that 97% of voters agreed with it. 97% of voters couldn't agree on if the Earth rotated around the Sun, let alone if they wanted to be annexed. They might as well have said that 140% of people agreed with it, but who would be so stupid to believe a number like that... Ohh wait.
User avatar #124 to #118 - alimais (03/28/2014) [-]
82% of its people voted and 95% of them voted pro-russia
#108 - silverlance (03/28/2014) [+] (6 replies)
Thanks OP, this cleared a few things up
#60 - vytros (03/28/2014) [+] (1 reply)
Also, Tymoshenko was actually kind of as much a cunt as Yanukovych, she even had a ******* toilet brush made out of gold.
User avatar #22 - Niathaur ONLINE (03/28/2014) [+] (10 replies)
Using the same facts as western propaganda, well done. Did you know that there were 125(or so) INTERNATIONAL observers at the referendum vote, and not a single one of them reported a single soldier or gunman in general in sight anywhere during the votes. The vote was completely legal in every aspect, even more so than the one that was held in the NATO-Occupied Kosovo after the bombings.
User avatar #119 to #47 - Niathaur ONLINE (03/28/2014) [-]
thanks. after reading through it, I disagree that they were shot. they were warned, and shots were fired IN THE AIR, not at the teams. when it came to the referendum itself though, international observers had no problems in Crimea.
User avatar #18 - semilunarknight (03/28/2014) [+] (2 replies)
So, speculations on how this will end?
User avatar #96 to #18 - joekerr (03/28/2014) [-]
This won't be over till June. Elections in the Ukraine are at the end of May.
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