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#3 - imjared (10/24/2015) [-]
It was just the animators for that fight
#4 to #3 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
yeah cuz the original ******* naruto vs sasuke fight was so much better

read, or heard a theory once, can't remember which, that apparently around this time and several very bad animation moments in naruto history there were a lot of animator layoffs in japan, or something similar.
#5 to #4 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
There's that, but there's also just the animation tricks people use. If you stop a majority of animations doing fast motion at the right frame, you can get some pretty silly things that you wouldn't notice from watching it normally.   
   
Most of Naruto's "filled in" parts, however, have nothing to go on and so the animation might have taken a toll as the animators took their own ideas for the fight. Pein vs Naruto, for instance, didn't really have much fighting with Pein and the 7-Tailed Naruto. It was kind of over rather quickly in the manga, but the animators filled in the missing parts, which caused stuff like this to happen.
There's that, but there's also just the animation tricks people use. If you stop a majority of animations doing fast motion at the right frame, you can get some pretty silly things that you wouldn't notice from watching it normally.

Most of Naruto's "filled in" parts, however, have nothing to go on and so the animation might have taken a toll as the animators took their own ideas for the fight. Pein vs Naruto, for instance, didn't really have much fighting with Pein and the 7-Tailed Naruto. It was kind of over rather quickly in the manga, but the animators filled in the missing parts, which caused stuff like this to happen.
#6 to #5 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
Despite the ****** up scenes I rather enjoyed the little bit of extra filler in the fight. I read that damn chapter so long ago I don't remember the original really. Now I just pay attention to how Mitsuki is related to Orochimaru.
#7 to #6 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
I wasn't saying it was bad, or anything. Just that their animators probably went a little too far in some motions, which is why stuff like that happened. The Pein Vs Naruto fight was probably the only really good fight in Shippuden, honestly. The original, past Hinata saving Naruto, was rather quick though. It was like "I'm going Kyuubi! Firing lazers while wearing bones! Suddenly, I'm trapped in a giant ball of rocks and I'm talking to Dad!" Fight over, more or less.

I don't know who Mitsuki is, and I thought you said Mizuki for a second there!, because I don't read the latest stuff or watch it. The dramafest of the 'War' arc kind of turned me off Naruto... For the most part. I still enjoy the great stories here and there.
#8 to #7 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
What about the Madara fight/fillers? And the Kyuubi rampaging through the Leaf? i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee496/widdopc/248.jpg i.imgur.com/1c82gzU.png

New series - I assume they're doing another - isn't out, haven't seen the new movie, but I've read the 10-chapter spinoff and the Rock Lee-esque manga special they did, too. Whatcha mean the dramafest?
#9 to #8 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
Hmmn... That does look really bad, actually. Though the Kyuubi's rampage through the leaf was rather well animated originally, from what I recall. Madara's fight with the "Ninja Alliance" was blocky but overall decent... I dunno. <(' '<)

The new series isn't out because they havne't reached the end, yet. They stopped the anime for a 20 episode filler a bit ago for no reason, and that was after the manga had already ended. The movie is out though, which is ... weird, since the anime isn't over yet to my knowledge.

Rock Lee and his Ninja Pals is a pretty good parody. Some of the jokes get rather bland, but it's one of the few parodies that respect the source and don't completely break down characters... Like Lee not being able to actually use Jutsu.

But...

Everything about Madara's return was just a drama fest. "Ninjas endure", "Obito's regret despite coming this far", "Suddenly, the black Zetzu is actually betraying Madara despite being Madara's will which makes no sense anyways." "Suddenly, Bunny Mom is pissed and split Madara in half because Kishi couldn't figure out how to kill him." Nothing but drama and barely any real fighting, manga wise.

Lastly, the spin off with the "Naruto is the Seventh Hokage" is literally nothing but drama over nothing for the first few chapters. Something about Salad not believing she's Sakura's kid, which anyone would want to reject in my opinion, and thinking her mom is Karin, or something. Turns out she is Sakura's kid and that's the end of that. Like why even have that there? It was awful.
#10 to #9 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
Originally? Like from the first episode? What about when Madara had the Rinnegan too early, when Naruto used the first Rasengan on him?

I mostly meant manga-wise. Oops. I keep falling out of the anime for the most part due to all the God damn fillers... Haven't seen anything of Ninja Pals yet, just pictures here and there.

Huh, true. Never thought of it like that but I personally think where was "enough" fighting. The spinoff with that Gaiden crap was a bit farfetched with Shin, I do have to admit. Still, more content to me is good, at least non-filler content, for the most part ( like extra bits in fights ).
#11 to #10 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
Sort of like from the first episode, yeah. The games also cover it rather well, animation wise, but that doesn't really count. As for Madara's Rinnegan, I think he was supposed to have it anytime he used the Tree Jutsu... But I dunno. That entire thing wasn't really described very well.

The fillers are pretty awful, especially the latest one they did that happened after the manga was over... If it was to help the manga get going, that's one thing. But the manga was over. Literally no point in having fillers, especially with characters that have already been dead for a long time, like Fuu.

Ninja pals is pretty good, though the anime for it is better and longer than the manga from what I can tell. It does get pretty bland after awhile, though, but that might be just me.

I don't think there really was "Enough" fighting. Because there was hardly any at all! Bunny Mom's fight, for instance, was just Sasuke and Naruto trying to touch her chest at the same time. It was just a long game of keep away. Madara and Gai had a good fight, and the anime may cover it way better than the manga did, but after that it was just kind of... weak. That's how it felt, anyways.

The Gaiden stuff is really dumb and I think Naruto should have just ended and Kishi should have went for another manga series entirely. Or maybe made a "Naruto Gaiden" that is just a complete remake of Naruto with his plot holes removed! But I guess he just wanted the cash.

Extra non-filler stuff is good for me too, but it kind of depends. I don't really like "Fluff" where characters do some romantic talking that wasn't originally there, y'know? Not saying Naruto has that, because it really doesn't, but that's the type I don't really enjoy.

Also, pic related. But I suggest not actually reading all that.
User avatar #12 to #11 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
reading... that picture gave me cancer I swear to god. half that **** , just... ow. is wrong, I think.

Anywho. Played a few of the games, kinda meh. The PlayStation ones were all the same. Nah the scene I meant was an animation error; Tsuchikage lifted him up with some earth jutsu and Naruto smacked him with a Rasengan, and he pulled out Susano or some **** . RIGHT before the platform went up, he had the Rinnegan as an animation error.

That's what I thought, too; why need fillers when the manga's over? For the next series? Or?

Lol touching her chest. Gai VS Madara did feel really weak considering how strong Gai was supposed to be. Still, he did almost kill him. I bet if Lee had actually tried to attack him, too, he would have won, or if Naruto had healed him more, at least chakra/stamina-wise, he could've went 7 gates that time and helped a whole ******** more.

Ehh every series has plot holes. I'm glad they showed Kakashi's face. Next is Mu's I hope. The fluff is annoying in that aspect, yep.

God damn it I should've read your post before reading it.
#13 to #12 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
The games are interesting to me. They can be surprisingly complex once you get far into them, and some of the fight scenes are pretty good... But I really wish I hadn't broke my Playstation 2 game of Uzumaki Chronicals. Now /that/ was a Naruto game.

I think they just already had it planned and then Kishi was like "Hey guys, manga is over." but they already had the whole thing written out / animated, so they decided to go with it. That's my assumption, at least.

They kind of skipped over it a bit, but I honestly feel like Kishi should have just let Madara die there against Gai, instead of instantly recovering. Kishi himself said he couldn't figure out how to kill Madara realistically, which is why he just got randomly split in half...

Every series does have plot holes, that I agree with, but... I dunno, Naruto has had just way too many. Mostly around the Sasuke Retrieval and beyond. There are some plot holes that just can't be forgiven, too. Like how Naruto came back only knowing a bigger Rasengan and how to potentially get out of Genjutsu... After two goddang years.

Or, and especially this one, like this one got me actually upset when I read it: How Gai is just like Lee and can't use Ninjutsu or Genjutsu, instead of just being a man who decided to become a master of Taijutsu. Like... seriously? Not only is Gai not Lee's father, since Gai's father suffered from the same thing apparently, but the first time you see Gai, he used a summoning Jutsu to summon a turtle and he used the teleporting Jutsu to appear on top of the turtle. It's that sort of plot hole that really made me dislike Kishi as a writer.

And... Who is Mu? And read my post before reading what? <(' '<)
#15 to #13 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
Also, face.
#14 to #13 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
The main ones I played were a few on the GBA, I think. Played a few fighter ones on a friend's PS2, never had any of those myself.

He really said that about Madara? I'll think of a theory later, too early for thinking.

Retrieval mission, hmm; wasn't there a team of highly-skilled Jounin sent after him? Shizune and the other two members of Team Asuma when they fought Hidan/Kakuzu, and bandana-wearing-guy-with-toothpick-in-his-mouth? Forgive me, I can't remember some names. Naruto also had control up to three tails, or at least two I believe, as well, they kinda just... rolled over that fact.

Nah they never really directly stated that Gai can't, just he sucks at it I think. You have a point though.

Dis is Mu. I read the picture before I read your comment on not reading it. Cancer-inducing indeed.
#16 to #14 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
The GBA ones were pretty bad. If you wanted a suggestion, the PS3 ones are decent, and they're letting out a big one next year, along with Uzumaki Chronicals being a top-tier Naruto RPG fighting game with original stories. There's also 2 or 3 on the DS called Path of Ninja, I think?, that are turn based RPGs starting from the beginning of the series. They're pretty good, if you like those types, but I think I could be wrong about the name.

He really said that. He had no idea how to kill him, so he split him in half and had him lay there for like 20 chapters.

No, no. I'm talking about the original Sasuke Retrieval mission. The one with the Sound 5 with Shikamaru leading a team to get Sasuke. The original Sasuke vs Naruto, y'know? That's when the series starting going down hill.

They directly stated he couldn't. Here's the page saying it.

Ah, Mu. I think he'd have a pretty plain face, but meh? He was kind of minor. And ah, I see. Sorry for not posting the warning sooner!
#17 to #16 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
No PS3 either. Sold my PS4 and Vita, along with... all my collector edition games to buy food. Oh turn based, cool. Didn't they release one possibly semi-recently that actually does have the final fight in it between Naruto and Sasuke?

Oh that half, not the Sasuke cutting him in half. I know that his legs were just kinda... there, but, I honestly thought they got absorbed, too. It was a very big wat moment.

Yeah, that; didn't the Sound guys fight the Jounin, but lost against the Sound 'cuz of the Curse Seal?

Huh. Damn series retcon. I just always wonder what's behind peoples masks. 'Tis fine! Can't think of anything post-related to put up so have some Danzo.
#18 to #17 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
The next "Naruto Ninja Storm Game" which will be on PC and PS4, I think, will have the final fight I believe. Don't think any other game has it out yet.

Madara got split in half by Bunny Mom and basically took over his legs for whatever reason. It was rather "what?" heavy.

Yep! While I can say the Sound 4 all being cursed up against 2 Jounin would explain why the Jounin lost, I think at least one of them should have got wounded from it, y'know? But that kinda stuff just happens in anime with main characters.

That's a pretty good pic, at least. But yeah, what they did to Gai and Lee's condition was unacceptable... I'm running out of images related to Naruto, too.
#19 to #18 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
Hey I have a computer! Sweet. I saw a video of it in a game before, but it was in Japanese.

Kakashi getting the Mangekyou back/Susanoo, Obito's dimension powers both I think were huge asspulls, despite the Mangekyou being a bit cool at the time.

I think they only went stage 1 though, that's the thing. They didn't SHOW the fight but they were at least in 1 afterwards but I think there were 4 Jounins.

Y'mean no Jutsu? Why thank you.
#20 to #19 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
The Ninja Storm games are actually on Steam, but I'd suggest waiting for the one coming out next year for the best quality if you wanted to try one out.

I think the concept behind them was neat, but the overpowered ability of the Sharingan was just too much after Shippuden. Itachi's powers alone should have been the final form of the Sharingan, minus Sussano that is.

There was only two, I think it was Genma (The announcer in the Chuunin exam) and someone else... I forget him. But there was definitely only two that I recall off the top of my head. Might've already had two of them down, though.

Yeah, the No Jutsu thing being something other than just Lee. That's what made Lee so unique and amazing for the first half, and it's like Kishi slapped us on the second half.

I think this is my last Naruto related pic, and it's late, so I may just turn in. <(' '<)

Nice chatting with you, though.
#21 to #20 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
God I hate Steam. Ignore my 56 games on it, please, I blame every problem I have due to Steam.

Read some theory somewhere that supposedly since Itachi was blind during those last few moments when he fought Sasuke, that even if you have blind eyes you can still use the powers regardless, hence why Madara could use Susanoo without his eyes at all.

Looked it up cuz I was curious who else was with him. Wiki says Raido, Iwashi, Shizune and Genma, but only Genma and Raido fought them apparently, in level 2 states, though Shizune healed them after they got their asses whopped. No slapping us please Kishi-sama.

Dear God. In any case, t'was fun indeed, and good chats.
#22 to #21 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/24/2015) [-]
Awh, but steam is great. There are some issues here and there, but..!

It was actually said that Itachi had very numerous drugs and what not inside his body on the time of his death. He was too powerful, even for himself to control, so he had to drug himself up and make himself nearly blind when he was fighting Sasuke, just so he didn't accidentally kill him before he could drag Orochimaru out. I don't know if the drug part was true, but I recall hearing it from a source that was quoting something Kishi had stated while writing the Sasuke vs Itachi part.

Yeah, that sounds familiar now that you say it. Still, I think at least one should have been wounded from that fight... I mean, they were fighting Jounin.

Actually out of Naruto pics, and i am going to bed now. Ta! <(' '<)
#23 to #22 - hariderp (10/24/2015) [-]
My first few times I got Steam, each time I got a virus on my old computer. Immediately deleted Steam, took a long time to get rid of it, maybe a week or so each time I do think.

This I remember about the drugs though I doubt that he MADE himself blind via drugs or the Mangekyou, it just happened to happen at that same time.

Genma was even a guard for Minato, and Shizune is Tsunade's apprentice, too, for ****** sake.

I keep pulling them off Google honestly. 'Night!
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