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User avatar #5 - bojesus (12/17/2015) [-]
I've posted this before and I'll post it again, because I have to get this off of my chest.

God damn <democratic candidate / republican candidate>! They're too far <left / right>, they'll send this country into <communism / fascism>. They're too <weak / stupid> to run the country anyway, only <children / racists> support them. If they get elected, you can guarantee they'll <destroy the economy / destroy the economy>.
#56 to #5 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
But Sanders is too far left and Trump is too far right imo...
#72 to #56 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Please reread the post.
User avatar #1 - mrsecret (12/17/2015) [-]
This reminds me when Paul Ryan blamed Obama for an auto factory closing down due to economic turmoil... two months before Obama took office. Never trust a guy with two first names.
User avatar #4 to #1 - emptysuperman ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Don't you know? All problems fell on Obama when he took office. That's why they blame him for the economy being **** even though it was caused by Bush.
User avatar #11 to #4 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
Actually, Bush tried to stop the economic Recession when he first entered office. The housing bubble was growing rapidly and he was raising red flags about it. The Democrats told him it was all good, that there was no problem. He decided to listen to them. Remember, it wasn't the war in Iraq that collapsed the economy. It was people making minimum wage somehow getting financing on a 4 bedroom, 2 bath house with a swimming pool.
User avatar #15 to #11 - ihateeverybodytoo (12/17/2015) [-]
yep you can watch the videos where barney frank says that.
User avatar #18 to #15 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
Frontline did a good episode on the whole thing. MELTDOWN was the name of it. Quite revealing.
User avatar #19 to #18 - ihateeverybodytoo (12/17/2015) [-]
neat.
#54 to #11 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
so do you help coconuts migrate??
User avatar #55 to #54 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
I tried, once. We used the technique shown on the right of your pic. It kinda worked. Unfortunately I was attempting the migration with the help of Carl. Carl is a moron. We ended up just sorta going in circles for a while.
#12 to #4 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
OBAMA DINDU NUFFIN!
Bush is **** .
Obama is ****
Clinton is **** .
The government is **** .
User avatar #17 to #12 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
hate obama all you want

all i know is gas was almost $5 under bush and im paying under $2 right now
User avatar #21 to #17 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
And Obama has absolutely nothing to do with that. It's literally only that low because OPEC is trying to kill the U.S. oil industry.
#22 to #21 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
yeah and im sure the sharp rise in gas prices had absolutely NOTHING to do with bush either
User avatar #23 to #22 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
Didn't say that. Though realistically, the war in Iraq can be more squarely blamed on the previous decade of Democrats calling for an unprovoked invasion of Iraq to find WMDs that they were certain existed and were to be used to destroy the world. Bush went into Iraq precisely because the Democrats, including both Clintons, had been cheerleading an invasion for years, and went in on intel that had been gathered and vetted under Clinton's administration. But yes, Bush can be blamed, in part, for the high gas prices. Doesn't change the fact that Obama has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with them coming back down.
User avatar #24 to #21 - emptysuperman ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
>everything good that happens: NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA
>everything bad that happens: 100% Obamas fault
Stay predictable right wingers.
User avatar #25 to #24 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
I'm not a right winger you presumptive autist. Slightly left of center, actually. I just recognize facts and actually look at history instead of eating circle-jerk party lines.
#64 to #25 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
It doesn't matter what you side of the spectrum you're on. You're still pretty stupid. You keep insisting that the democrats gave false information and egged bush on to do stupid **** , I won't even challenge you on that.
Except the fact of the matter is, he was the president of the united states, the most powerful man in the world. You're not going to convince me he had no judgement to not do the stupid **** that's constantly being said by both parties. You can bet your ass if obama started blaming some random republicans he listened to at some point for anything that goes wrong, he would be laughed at.
User avatar #67 to #64 - unladenswallow (12/17/2015) [-]
I'm glad to see that your mind is so incredibly small that you can't understand basic sociology. Further proof that the propaganda machine is working. Here's the thing, oh brainless one: When the previous admin's intelligence is the best available, when the previous admin has been painting a picture for years, when the previous admin's party has been detailing that general picture for years, that picture becomes the reality. Bush acted, with support of both parties, based on a series of lies told largely by democrats for the previous 8 years. A leader leads based on the information at hand, with the advice given by those appointed to advise. If the information is bad, or the advice is deceptive, it's not the leader's fault for acting upon it when it's the only information available.

As to your Obama comparison: The man has done nothing but blame republicans for everything that's wrong in the country, even when those issues were a direct result of something he did. He refuses to accept any responsibility for anything. He's laughed at, yes. And those who laugh are called racist. The only people not laughing are people like yourself that have their heads so far up their own asses that it's impossible to tell where the inversion begins.
#71 to #17 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Yeah cuz Obama told them to do that.
******* autismos
#34 to #17 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
When Bush left office the average price for a gallon of gas was 1.74 here's a link
cnsnews.com/news/article/gas-when-bush-left-office-178-gas-today-364-highest-average-price-calif-420
#35 to #34 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
yeah okay buddy
ill just take the fact that i havent seen gas under $2 since like 2002 and throw it right the **** out
#36 to #35 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
I'm sorry the fact don't agree with your agenda. I remember it being as low as 1.65 in this area during that time period. Yes the economy was bad under bush but it was recovering at the end of his term and if it had been left alone to heal itself it would of done just that. But idiots had to sit around and poke the economy with a stick and make it worse then blame bush.
User avatar #37 to #36 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
i have no agenda
i havent seen gas under $2 since around some time after 9/11 until earlier this year in 2015
thats more fact than anything
#38 to #37 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
I guess I and other just have a better memory. For some reason people remember the surges up, but don't the dips. I guess people are just negative . And the reason I voted you down was not because of difference of opinion but because of you called my FACTS a lie. Pretty low down approach.
User avatar #39 to #38 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
i remember the dips perfectly well. i remember the rise all the way from 1.80 to 4.50, and back and forth between ranges in the $2-3 range. but never once below $2. even in NJ
#40 to #39 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Here's another one for you.
Consumer reports
www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2008/12/average-gas-prices-december-15-2008/index.htm

CNN
money.cnn.com/2008/12/14/news/economy/gas/index.htm

Do you need more?
You have yet to give me a link showing otherwise, but I've posted three. I'm sorry these fact interfere with your way of thinking.
User avatar #41 to #40 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
yeah im calling ******** . i explicitly remember the highest gas prices i or anyone had ever seen in the 2008-09 time span. and i dont have a shoddy memory, i can tell you that
User avatar #8 to #4 - notanotheraccount (12/17/2015) [-]
I mean, he still didnt help it. Bush ****** us, Obama didnt let us shower after.
#6 to #4 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
He should have done something instead of continuing the GOP policies, but if he did his successes would have been attributed to Bush anyway
User avatar #14 to #4 - ihateeverybodytoo (12/17/2015) [-]
democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years. Also when barney frank was asked about fannie mae and freddie mac he said that everything was fine.
#32 to #4 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
The economy would of recovered if it hadn't of been missed with. In fact it was already on it way to Recovery at the end of bush's term.
User avatar #52 to #32 - phtholognyrrh (12/17/2015) [-]
wait you mean the last few months of his term from august 2008 to january 2009 when the stock market was in freefall?
User avatar #76 to #1 - amsel (12/18/2015) [-]
Except you're conveniently leaving out the part where Obama promised the citizens of Janesville that he would keep the plant open "for another 100 years" as part of his campaign speeches, as well as the fact that only the SUV line was shut down in 2008 (while they continued producing trucks until 2009, into Obama's presidency). But you know, facts and research are for lame-os when we all have the internet and can post whatever we want.
User avatar #79 to #76 - mrsecret (12/18/2015) [-]
Except you're conveniently leaving out the part where those few dozen out of the 1200 employees that didn't get laid knew that the factory was already going under and were asked to stay on to finish an order of trucks. Also there is no record of Obama saying that he would keep the plant open for another hundred years, or saying that he would keep it open at all. Ryan was the one who misquoted that while relaying the speech in his pathetic smear campaign.But you know, facts and research are for lame-os when we all have the internet and can post whatever we want. say what you will about him but there was absolutely nothing Obama could have done to save the factory before it went under. 99% of the employees were out the door and the 1% that remained were gone with in the next two month

Paul Ryan was such a piece of **** that in my mind he's the one that cost Romney the presidency.
User avatar #81 to #79 - amsel (12/18/2015) [-]
P.S.: Here's a post on a liberal website that agrees with you that still says "Obama said what he said" and that "the plant closed in 2009": www.outsidethebeltway.com/paul-ryans-gm-plant-fact-checking-the-fact-checks/
User avatar #82 to #81 - mrsecret (12/18/2015) [-]
I can only find about five minutes of the speech Obama made at Janesville and there is not mention of him promising anything about keeping the plant open... so far. If you can find the actually footage I'll concede that point to you, but that doesn't change the fact that, barring his actual competency as a president, he is overly criticized and often blamed for things he did not do.
User avatar #83 to #82 - amsel (12/18/2015) [-]
I think all politicians are a giant pile of **** and that all of them are after nothing but money. For example, you never hear environmentalists calling for "banning carbon emissions" or "eliminating pollution" - it's all about "buying carbon credits" or "paying rain taxes" (aka getting paid for destruction of the environment). American politics is completely based on money.

None of this changes the fact that your first statement was either stretched or objectively false depending on how you look at it, considering the plant continued to make cars into 2009, and the statement it was based on was made before the 2008 ceasing of operations.
User avatar #80 to #79 - amsel (12/18/2015) [-]
Paul Ryan was a piece of **** , and his statement was loaded, but nobody denies that Obama made the claim, and it's also untrue to say that the plant closed before Obama was president, so your post was somewhere along the lines of 100% false. Just saying.
#42 to #1 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Don't forget the NSA spying from the Patriot Act that was signed in 2001. That is one of Obama's biggest mistakes.
User avatar #63 to #1 - advice (12/17/2015) [-]
where did the factory close down? If it was in Obama's district area then that "could" be his fault
User avatar #68 to #63 - mrsecret (12/17/2015) [-]
It was Paul Ryan's hometown in ]Janesville Wisconsin which is why he was so butthurt about it and i believe Obama was congress member from Illinois. So buy that logic it would be the fault of the representative in charge of Wisconsin's 1st district. Any guesses to who that might be?
It was Paul Ryan
User avatar #10 to #1 - arsenymous (12/17/2015) [-]
I will always trust Ron Paul
User avatar #51 to #10 - phtholognyrrh (12/17/2015) [-]
i think you may be giving ron paul too much power...
User avatar #20 - spoperman (12/17/2015) [-]
1 Billion years from now the earth will be consumed by the Sun

And Obama did nothing to stop it
User avatar #26 to #20 - thediamondhack (12/17/2015) [-]
" did " is the wrong word
User avatar #27 to #26 - schneidend ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Not if you're a time traveler.
User avatar #28 to #27 - thediamondhack (12/17/2015) [-]
i dont travel time, time travels me
User avatar #29 to #28 - schneidend ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
******* slut.
User avatar #30 to #29 - thediamondhack (12/17/2015) [-]
thank you. i love ******* sluts.
User avatar #53 to #20 - rockamekishiko (12/17/2015) [-]
thought it was 2 billion
#13 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
User avatar #49 to #13 - phtholognyrrh (12/17/2015) [-]
your source is FRED. i dont think i believe you
#33 to #13 - innocentbabies (12/17/2015) [-]
This would be a lot more meaningful if it was legible.
User avatar #47 to #33 - leifbunny (12/17/2015) [-]
It seems boil down to:

"No one wants to do labor anymore, so everyone loses"
#73 to #47 - innocentbabies (12/18/2015) [-]
That's a really gross simplification of the current economic situation. The real problem is that nobody's willing to adapt to what the economy is becoming, because, frankly, change is scary. People are freaking out because we're at the verge of one of the most drastic technological revolutions ever to influence manufacturing, and the recent globalization of trade has only compounded the issue by exposing us to cheaper labor markets. Labor is obsolete for developed countries, because as cheap as it is overseas and is soon to be, due to the ever-increasing presence of automation , you can't competitively work while maintaining such a high standard of living. The solutions are to accept it, move on from a heavy reliance on labor, and experience enormous economic growth in other sectors; or to tax the other sectors and redistribute the wealth so that the social classes that rely on unskilled labor can survive. Neither of these are easy to implement, and either way the coming years are going to be tumultuous.

tl;dr **** changes, deal with it also, **** you, I spent forever typing that out
User avatar #85 to #73 - leifbunny (12/18/2015) [-]
....That's needlessly hostile for a simple generalized guess. You ok?
#86 to #85 - innocentbabies (12/18/2015) [-]
Probably not, but I wasn't trying to be hostile toward you, just to the idea that the world's falling apart because people are too lazy or whatever else they want to blame on.
The **** you part was for anybody who skipped straight to the tl;dr part
User avatar #87 to #86 - leifbunny (12/18/2015) [-]
Ah, fair enough. That said, thanks for the work, nonetheless.
#48 - tonicwater ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
#69 to #48 - rousingloki (12/17/2015) [-]
This picture of Obabo scares me
User avatar #77 to #45 - feelythefeel (12/18/2015) [-]
I would pay money to see this anime.
#46 to #45 - toboz (12/17/2015) [-]
what the ****
User avatar #60 to #46 - casinoer (12/17/2015) [-]
Alex Jones 1/20/2009 Original
User avatar #43 - fjaggot (12/17/2015) [-]
It's cause Obama wasn't even born dummy. Americans are so stupid sometimes...
#57 to #43 - Marker ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
#74 to #57 - innocentbabies (12/18/2015) [-]
There's no way he didn't get it, he's just *********** .
User avatar #88 to #74 - fjaggot (12/18/2015) [-]
People grab the easiest b8 m8
#16 - kingtravis (12/17/2015) [-]
GIF
They didn't need Obama. Everyone tried hard to make life easier.
User avatar #3 - lordbyronxiv (12/17/2015) [-]
and now Bernie Sanders wants to make poor people pay for the lost items
User avatar #61 to #3 - casinoer (12/17/2015) [-]
That is... the exact opposite of what he wants to do.
User avatar #65 to #61 - lordbyronxiv (12/17/2015) [-]
sarcasm is a lost art
#75 to #65 - innocentbabies (12/18/2015) [-]
Well, you should work on that then, because it's definitely been lost to you.
User avatar #84 to #75 - lordbyronxiv (12/18/2015) [-]
lol chiiill. I support Bernie and am also being sarcastic, I know full well that Sanders doesn't want to make poor people pay for things.
User avatar #66 to #50 - lordbyronxiv (12/17/2015) [-]
sarcasm is a lost art
#31 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
The main problem with this post is that it's not what Obama does not do that makes him a bad president. It's what he does. The US would of been better of with a Do nothing president then with him instead of one pushing bad ideas.
User avatar #59 to #31 - chuca (12/17/2015) [-]
The main problem with your post is that this was not about Obama being good or bad. It's a ******* joke. FJ would of been better of without you commenting then with you trying to ruin the joke.
#58 to #31 - Marker ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
*ahem*
User avatar #9 - eggsandwich (12/17/2015) [-]
arigatou obama-sama
#7 - theokkeli (12/17/2015) [-]
**theokkeli used "*roll picture*"**
**theokkeli rolled image** thanks obama
User avatar #2 - becefalus (12/17/2015) [-]
wow
smooth move obama.
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