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anon (12/27/2015) [-] 
There better be an alarm or some other indicator for when that thing is done or else you're in for one heck of a surprise.
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thunderchild (12/28/2015) [-] Sit on the bench wait for the spikes get injured and Sue the city
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iamnotgoodwithname (12/28/2015) [-] "if you can not afford an attorney one will be appointed to you"
at least thats how it goes in the us
at least thats how it goes in the us
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Tolovefurikuri ONLINE (12/28/2015) [-] he pointed out he hasnt been arrested before because thats when most people get read their Miranda Rights. and there are attorneys that have to represent you if you can not afford to hire one. they work for the city and they dont make **** for pay
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Tolovefurikuri ONLINE (12/28/2015) [-] he wasnt saying he would be arrested for being injured. he was stating that he had never been read his rights by an officer because he has never been arrested, that was the whole point. and yes, im awware you cannot sue with a public defender.
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Tolovefurikuri ONLINE (12/28/2015) [-] *facepalm* let me try again. you told him he was misquoting the Miranda rights. he explained why he misquoted by stating he had never been arrested, because when you are arrested you are read your rights and if he had been arrested he would have heard his rights and would not of misquoted. end explanation, end relevance.
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tokerpoker (12/29/2015) [-]
Lol this deutschblut kid blocked me because he's scared of me. Ha.
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tokerpoker (12/28/2015) [-]
You just went full retard. He's trying to explain a hypothetical situation and you're hanging on to one stupid piece of info lol.
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thunderchild (12/29/2015) [-] I thought that was for defense only aja if your on trial
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vermillionbobcat (12/27/2015) [-] It's actually made to prevent homeless people from laying on it.
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deutschblut (12/28/2015) [-] It's not.
They use these all over the world now to deter the homeless.
They use these all over the world now to deter the homeless.
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deutschblut (12/28/2015) [-] I liek parks.
And maybe I don't like a lot of homeless either.
But public is public.
Homeless, blacks, jews, lesbians, and everyone else is free to go anywhere in public.
I used to be homeless too, BTW.
Never caused anyone any problems.
lol. I am homeless now.
And maybe I don't like a lot of homeless either.
But public is public.
Homeless, blacks, jews, lesbians, and everyone else is free to go anywhere in public.
I used to be homeless too, BTW.
Never caused anyone any problems.
lol. I am homeless now.
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kellorkleft ONLINE (12/28/2015) [-]
It's actually an art piece that was made by Fabian Brunsing in a German park as a political statement, protesting against the concept of monetizing public services.
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shibblehiggins (12/29/2015) [-] O boi, I've always wanted to have an arch enemy, i guess you'll have to do, doucheblut
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reconenderus [OP](12/28/2015) [-] >MFW I just wanted to post something and caused all this.
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anon (12/28/2015) [-]
You are wrong and amazingly stupid, 4 of those links are talking about the same bench as the one in the picture and every one of those 4 says it's a design by Fabien that will not be distributed as an actual service.
One is on about unrelated benches in China and the last one is about 'defensive architecture' that is made to deter the homeless, like floor spikes outside buildings, sloping seats at bus stops and wavy benches.
One is on about unrelated benches in China and the last one is about 'defensive architecture' that is made to deter the homeless, like floor spikes outside buildings, sloping seats at bus stops and wavy benches.
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vermillionbobcat (12/29/2015) [-] So I was right then? Why the **** would this be an art piece anyway.
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harrykuntz (12/28/2015) [-] Then a kid plops down on one of these without looking and the town gets sued until they're broke. And where will you sleep then Mr. Mayor?
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phlogistinator (12/28/2015) [-] Why are cities making such a big ******* deal about preventing homeless people from sleeping on benches? How about they use that money to make the homeless shelters bigger instead of putting spikes everywhere?
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anon (12/28/2015) [-]
The point is to get them to seek proper facilities for homelessness like shelters and food organizations like The Caring Place. Cities that have implemented programs like these actually have greatly reduced homeless rates associated with higher compliance with the in place programs.
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conniev (12/28/2015) [-]
Bit of a dual edged blade though.
You make the shelters with some money, and the spikes to enforce the shelters with some more money, that's great... until you realise that the money you dropped on building the spikes is needed because of the influx of people the shelters need help handling.
In fact, having faced homelessness a few times now, and having gone to shelters before, I'd say that the overcrowding and lack of funding is the biggest problem, and then people that aren't considered 'priorities' are turned back out to the streets to seek out... well, benches, and eaves of buildings.
That now have spikes on them. Spike paid for with taxes that could have expanded the resources of the shelter that just kicked them out.
I get what you're saying in the whole aiding with compliance bit, but the logic once you dig into the subject starts to falter.
You make the shelters with some money, and the spikes to enforce the shelters with some more money, that's great... until you realise that the money you dropped on building the spikes is needed because of the influx of people the shelters need help handling.
In fact, having faced homelessness a few times now, and having gone to shelters before, I'd say that the overcrowding and lack of funding is the biggest problem, and then people that aren't considered 'priorities' are turned back out to the streets to seek out... well, benches, and eaves of buildings.
That now have spikes on them. Spike paid for with taxes that could have expanded the resources of the shelter that just kicked them out.
I get what you're saying in the whole aiding with compliance bit, but the logic once you dig into the subject starts to falter.
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conniev (12/28/2015) [-]
To be honest, mattresses and boards aren't unheard of answers. I've even seen people wedge themselves between the bigger 'spikes' and sleep there.
To be honest, 'spiking' areas is literally trying to sweep the dust under the rug and then claim the room is clean. It's not, you haven't fixed the problem at all in that case.
And inb4 we get the Feminazi fiestas going, I'll lay it out straight.
Getting into shelters usually means you need to fit a specific schedule, racial profile and gender profile.
Women get into unisex shelters more than men do, there are more women' only shelters than there are men only shelters(in fact I don't believe that many even exist), there are also more shelters geared for minorities in the states that can exclude the caucasian community.
Why do you think the standard trope for 'homeless people' is a bedraggled older white guy with a nasty beard and ragged clothes? Because that's who you always see on the streets and the like.
Between daft 'pick and choose' tactics, and putting more work into forcing the homeless out of certain areas or spending tax payers money fining them exorbitant amounts of money for being homeless we waste a lot of what could be used to actually help these people to begin with.
To be honest, 'spiking' areas is literally trying to sweep the dust under the rug and then claim the room is clean. It's not, you haven't fixed the problem at all in that case.
And inb4 we get the Feminazi fiestas going, I'll lay it out straight.
Getting into shelters usually means you need to fit a specific schedule, racial profile and gender profile.
Women get into unisex shelters more than men do, there are more women' only shelters than there are men only shelters(in fact I don't believe that many even exist), there are also more shelters geared for minorities in the states that can exclude the caucasian community.
Why do you think the standard trope for 'homeless people' is a bedraggled older white guy with a nasty beard and ragged clothes? Because that's who you always see on the streets and the like.
Between daft 'pick and choose' tactics, and putting more work into forcing the homeless out of certain areas or spending tax payers money fining them exorbitant amounts of money for being homeless we waste a lot of what could be used to actually help these people to begin with.
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conniev (12/28/2015) [-]
An I wholly agree with you, the homeless can't be choosers, but due to whatever rhetoric about women needing to be protected and the like, and the other rhetoric of the 'macho man' it really does screw over the homeless more than people think.
I see the sexism circlejerks on here all the time, but the people having them aren't really affected too much by the general views expressed. The homeless, however, do.
There are countless shelters for battered and abused wives, for female rape victims and just females in general, and having shelter for them is not a bad thing. The bad thing is to be so focussed on them that we lose sight of everyone else suffering because of it.
Further more, because of the Feminazi/Meninist circle jerks, any attempts to have shelters for men only, for the above stated reasons, are thrown out immediately under the guise of the aforementioned circlejerk, rather than being seen as a legitimate attempt to help them.
TL;DR: Gender stereotypes are screwing over the homeless male populace because people can't be arsed to pull their heads out of their rectums.
Keep in mind that I haven't touched on children only shelters because children are a different case, but if we look at family only shelters(homeless parents with one or more child) it is not unheard of for the shelters to tell homeless fathers that their wives or children can stay, but they have to find other arrangements and come back in the morning for their family, though in fairness, there are not that many fathers homeless with their children, and their are a multitude of programmes to keep parents and their kids off the streets so that it doesn't have to become a problem.
I see the sexism circlejerks on here all the time, but the people having them aren't really affected too much by the general views expressed. The homeless, however, do.
There are countless shelters for battered and abused wives, for female rape victims and just females in general, and having shelter for them is not a bad thing. The bad thing is to be so focussed on them that we lose sight of everyone else suffering because of it.
Further more, because of the Feminazi/Meninist circle jerks, any attempts to have shelters for men only, for the above stated reasons, are thrown out immediately under the guise of the aforementioned circlejerk, rather than being seen as a legitimate attempt to help them.
TL;DR: Gender stereotypes are screwing over the homeless male populace because people can't be arsed to pull their heads out of their rectums.
Keep in mind that I haven't touched on children only shelters because children are a different case, but if we look at family only shelters(homeless parents with one or more child) it is not unheard of for the shelters to tell homeless fathers that their wives or children can stay, but they have to find other arrangements and come back in the morning for their family, though in fairness, there are not that many fathers homeless with their children, and their are a multitude of programmes to keep parents and their kids off the streets so that it doesn't have to become a problem.
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skebaba (12/28/2015) [-]
Sure. But then why aren't children only shelters segregated by race and gender, if the adult ones are? Also, a woman tried to found over 3 male domestic violence victim shelters in UK, but feminazis started sending her death threats and threatening her. They shot her dog to death with a gun and so she had to jump country to escape from them. The reason for this? "Only males can do domestic violence, so they don't deserve shelters".
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conniev (12/28/2015) [-]
See aforementioned mini-rant about the Feminazi/Meninist circlejerk. I mean, ****** sake you'd think people would just shut the hell up and look out of their window for two seconds and see the real problems, but like you said, those Feminazi's went ham on the one woman.
As for why the children's shelters aren't segregated? Dunno, have theories though. It's already proven that women's shelters get more govt. funding than regular shelters, on top of what they're given from the public.
My theory is that the children's shelters already get a decent amount of funding(as much as can be considered decent given the organisations we're talking about) so they don't need to play the gender/race game to try to earn more to scrape by. That's my theory anyway.
Children's shelters, and the foster care system, has its own nightmares however, and that's a whole other kettle of fish.
But, just like with most of the SJWs, so many middle to upper class people argue over topics but don't look down to see who the topics are affecting.
Ahh, but now I sound some rambling preacher, and all I meant to do was say that the spike plan is stupid. Ah well, it's good points for people to think about I suppose.
As for why the children's shelters aren't segregated? Dunno, have theories though. It's already proven that women's shelters get more govt. funding than regular shelters, on top of what they're given from the public.
My theory is that the children's shelters already get a decent amount of funding(as much as can be considered decent given the organisations we're talking about) so they don't need to play the gender/race game to try to earn more to scrape by. That's my theory anyway.
Children's shelters, and the foster care system, has its own nightmares however, and that's a whole other kettle of fish.
But, just like with most of the SJWs, so many middle to upper class people argue over topics but don't look down to see who the topics are affecting.
Ahh, but now I sound some rambling preacher, and all I meant to do was say that the spike plan is stupid. Ah well, it's good points for people to think about I suppose.
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anon (12/28/2015) [-]
The problem is there are not a lot of homeless shelters to go to.
The nearest homeless shelter to me is 15 miles away, if you're homeless and have no money, have fun walking there.
Then when you get there you find there is only 15 beds available and they're all probably taken.
These things are a waste of money that could go toward offering homeless people an opportunity to get back on their feet, because not every homeless person is homeless because they're a raging alcoholic druggie.
The nearest homeless shelter to me is 15 miles away, if you're homeless and have no money, have fun walking there.
Then when you get there you find there is only 15 beds available and they're all probably taken.
These things are a waste of money that could go toward offering homeless people an opportunity to get back on their feet, because not every homeless person is homeless because they're a raging alcoholic druggie.
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installation (12/28/2015) [-]
The homeless shelter? In the long run it's going to cost us a lot less because they'll be less likely to get hurt, so we won't have to pay their medical expenses. (They're homeless, how are they going to begin to pay a medical bill?) . Plus if I see a bench that I have to pay money to use I'll just say " **** this" and go somewhere else.
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jdizzleoffthehizzl (12/28/2015) [-]
"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
**** like this pisses me off
**** like this pisses me off
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jdizzleoffthehizzl (12/28/2015) [-]
Well it's the best one I could find, but this quote has been re-purposed over time by a lot of different people. I mean if it was a quote about not screwing children then yeah it's definitely bad advice
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jasonab (12/28/2015) [-]
This would never work in South Africa because:
- If anyone did pay the money to sit someone would come along at the end of the day and bust open the coin door and take the money.
- Eventually someone will disassemble the park bench for additions to their shanty.
- If anyone did pay the money to sit someone would come along at the end of the day and bust open the coin door and take the money.
- Eventually someone will disassemble the park bench for additions to their shanty.
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chaosraptor (12/28/2015) [-] then what
stop homeless people from collecting old cardboard boxes so they dont just pile a bunch on top higher than the spikes can penetrate
stop homeless people from collecting old cardboard boxes so they dont just pile a bunch on top higher than the spikes can penetrate
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brothergrimm (12/28/2015) [-] Honestly i don't understand why there's such an all out war on homeless people to begin with. They need help. But society just gives them the finger and chases them away. Why????
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anon (12/28/2015) [-]
I learned of the best use for homeless people since Soylent Green a few years ago. I was walking through the city centre and some cops were trying to move on a homeless guy sleeping in the doorway of a pawn brokers. The homeless guy produced a signed contract, turns out he had an agreement with the shop owner that he was allowed to sleep in the doorway and gets paid, in return for preventing people vandalising or breaking into the shop. The homeless guy gets a sheltered place to sleep and some cash in his pocket, and the owner doesn't come back to a shop reeking of piss, it's win-win.
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daniboyi (12/28/2015) [-] the problem is that this idea would only work in places where vandalism is common and an everyday thing.
First world countries only experience a bit of graffiti at most (or at least it is like this in the country I live, can't talk for other countries), but rarely any purposely done destruction of shops.
First world countries only experience a bit of graffiti at most (or at least it is like this in the country I live, can't talk for other countries), but rarely any purposely done destruction of shops.
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chaosraptor (12/28/2015) [-] read up on stuff dude
its societal engineering... easier for the government tp just sweep them under the rug and wait for them to die than have to provide anything for them
its societal engineering... easier for the government tp just sweep them under the rug and wait for them to die than have to provide anything for them
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improbable (12/28/2015) [-] a couple of years ago i saw on the news homeless people in Oslo starting to settle in a forest nearby but they got kicked out because they were ruining the enviroment.
so they got back to the streets.
so they got back to the streets.
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theinternetwizard (12/28/2015) [-]
That weren't the homeless, that was the gypsies.
and they turned the area in to a cesspit of **** and garbage.
and they turned the area in to a cesspit of **** and garbage.
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zerodate ONLINE (12/28/2015) [-] Why is it that if homelessness is such a massive issue that we even worry about taking in immigrants?
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anon (12/28/2015) [-]
Many homeless people are homeless because their partner has kicked them out of the house that they helped pay for, there's literally tons of reasons for someone to be homeless.
These immigrants don't have money for it either but they get it handed to them and given welfare.
The point is a country should look after it's native people before offering shelter to anyone else. If you have a homeless problem, you shouldn't be giving nignogs free houses.
These immigrants don't have money for it either but they get it handed to them and given welfare.
The point is a country should look after it's native people before offering shelter to anyone else. If you have a homeless problem, you shouldn't be giving nignogs free houses.
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listerthepessimist (12/28/2015) [-] >hobo sees spiky bench
>smashes box to get coins inside
>puts plank on bench and sleeps soundly
>smashes box to get coins inside
>puts plank on bench and sleeps soundly
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gentlemanofbacon (12/28/2015) [-] sit on it without paying to prove how tough you are to get into the Salty Spittoon
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anon (12/28/2015) [-] everytime i see one of these anti-homeless ******** devices i question the future of europe...
our homeless people dont have the right to exist yet terrorists, homeless people and extremists from ************** are allowed to cross our borders, collect welfare and get dindunuffin movements on fagbook or twatter while criticizing europe and its people for not giving them more ****
**** these politically correct ****************** faggots
our homeless people dont have the right to exist yet terrorists, homeless people and extremists from ************** are allowed to cross our borders, collect welfare and get dindunuffin movements on fagbook or twatter while criticizing europe and its people for not giving them more ****
**** these politically correct ****************** faggots
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bigheadedshrimp (12/28/2015) [-] Why are you wasting your time trying to tell this crap on FJ . Go out and help a homeless man .
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doctorcamden (12/28/2015) [-] >take painkillers.
>sit.
>sue city.
>claim ignorance to spikes; "I don't look carefully where I sit because this is the first bench that iv'e ever needed to do so for".
>???
>profit.
>sit.
>sue city.
>claim ignorance to spikes; "I don't look carefully where I sit because this is the first bench that iv'e ever needed to do so for".
>???
>profit.
