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buffalo guy : its a fact that crime grows when minorities move in white nbh
interviewer: but that fact is racist, you cant say that
buffalo guy : yes i can, its a fact
interviewer: but thats offencive to people that commit crimes
buffalo guy : i dont care, its the truth
yes but the fact that you said the name of a typical african american name that makes you obviously racist and therefore you shouldn't be able to say things like that since it offends minorities. You know minorities have rights too? Please don't be so insensitive and offensive like that, it really triggers me.
my step brother still plays it apperently. i understand. for some reason dios face on heman to me just looks like he was half way through a sentence then a horrible realization hit him.
I don't know about the are that these people are talking about, but it's not "those blacks" that make neighborhoods go bad. It's poor and desperate people, who just most of the time happen to be black (or other minority race). If a black dude has the money to move into a nicer neighborhood, then the chances are that him being there is not going to destroy the neighborhood.
What? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
I was talking about in general. Black people don't automatically turn neighborhoods bad. ****** , desperate, poor people turn neighborhoods bad, it just happens to be that minorities are often the ones in that situation.
If you live in a good neighborhood, and some black family has the money to move into the neighborhood, then it's pretty ******* likely that they're not the kind of people who would destroy your neighborhood.
You could have a whole neighborhood of black people, and have it be a normally functioning suburban area.
Sorry dude, but is is actually "those blacks". You just refuse to see because it doesn't fit what your idealism. I've lived through it. Mexicans do it too. My home town is half ghetto now. In the 80's there was no bad part. Now the North side is all mexican, white people can't walk there at night. South side is all black, nobody even drives through there at night anymore. YOU ARE WRONG
He's grouping the minority together like it's "them and us".
The reason african-americans struggle is because they are already naturally poor when they are born into a naturally poor nbh. In a society where money and respect is achieved easier with crime and where gangs already have infested themselves into the very core of the community, it's hard to get by and choose the best way of life without the proper treatment. Most of them love their moms just like me and you. So much so that they're willing to commit crimes to support them. With gangs often recruiting family members it's hard to stay out, and gangs like family do not shrink over time, they grow. Building schools, making jobs and educating the population is not the primary focus. It's just putting the "troublemakers" in the corner and letting them be by themselves. Of course he has the right to not want minorities to move into his nbh but they have rights as he does and they are not to be treated differently. He's saying they'll wreck their neighborhood, which is not entirely true and also racist. But it is true that extremely poor minorities should not move to higher-class nbh as you won't make a big enough difference for the population of the minorities. But people aren't willing to change quickly, and when some of the minorities want a new start people like him neglect them and distrust them, talk about them behind their backs and so on. You can't expect anything else but if you treat someone badly they're going to treat you badly. And it'll never end.
you always have to consider, most of the people arent how you imagine them to be.
i cant say anything about increasing crime rates because of african-americans, especially as a german. over here they never seemed to be a problem. many of em dont get the best jobs, because they simply lack the qualifications. but its not their fault...they didnt know better when they came here. but here black people in general never seemed to be a problem. neither in terms of crime rates or any kinda religious beliefs they want to force on others or whatever....
they seem pretty chill. ive never seen any black person being a dick...but well...thats germany
america is different it seems
by now i realize what i wrote doesnt really match up with your comment, but ive invested too much time in this random jabberin to just delete it.
In germany we do have a similar problem though. To this day we're still struggnling with so called "ossies". People from the Ex-GDR, the people who grew up in communism.
It's exactly the same problem America has with black people. And the funny thing is that it's not a racial problem at all. GDR germans are just as much germans as west germans yet people will always make up differences ("they talk differently", "they look differently", "you can tell who is an Ossie by just looking at them") ignoring the real social issues. With black people it's obviously easier to group them and then pin everything wrong with the nation on them. But it's just absolutely retarded to think you're going to solve social issues by being a racist and blaming everything that's wrong on "them".
TL;DR it's not a racial issue at all, americans are retards
Don't worry buddy, I agree with you, you may be getting the red thumbs but statements like this used to get all the green thumbs 5 years ago. I'll up vote you're at least.
See, you're one of them optimists. You believe that people change. You believe that when the families from the crime ugly part of town move in to the nice neighbourhoods, they suddenly start acting like the nice neighbours. But they don't. Neither is that their goal, they simply wish to continue their life the same way as they have before, only this time in the nice neighbourhood. And by all means it is their right to do so. However, this brings discord to the neighbourhood, they're just not comaptible with the people around, who have lived this different way for generations, it just doesn't work, it ruins the balance. And the question has to be asked, if it is their right to move in, why is it not the neighbourhoods right to refuse? It is their home, they have lived their for years, are they suppsoed to have no right to decide how they want their home to be? Who says they can't be unhappy about new people moving in? Who says they can't want things to change? Who says they can't protect the home they've built for generations? What kind of ******** is that? It's not related to race or gender, it has to do purely with the behaviour of the newcomers, and only shallow narcisists which many of today's activists seem to be attempt to make this into a racial problem. I don't care if a guy is black or yellow, but if he's gonna be ******** on his driveway every morning just cause they did back home and no one ever saw anything wrong with it, then I don't want him living next to me. And it should be my right to say so and act upon it, because then we're infringing upon MY freedoms and the "I've been here first" mantra suddenly becomes a very valid argument.
You are ignoring the fact that what he is saying is correct. It has happened all over the country. Black people start moving in, White people start moving out. Crime goes up, property values go down. 20 years later it is an all black shthole. Rinse and repeat. Thousands of neighborhoods have been destroyed this way. Your sheltered liberalism blinds you to reality, making you a fuking idiot.
I agree with what the guy is saying, but here's the thing. He could have articulated himself better. Rather than saying "those people" and "wrecked that side," he could have said Blacks or African Americans first, and given an example of what they did.
Like I said, he could have said it much better and clearer, and then the reporter shouldn't have come off as not expecting to hear that.
>be me
>work for media group because I made a dumb-ass decision when I was in college
>interviewing a guy who's talking about minorities and not sucking their collective dicks
>he's making some fair points, I honestly see where he's coming from
>decide to let him speak his piece without insinuating that he's racist or bigoted
>my superiors see the footage
>get fired, have balls chopped off by the PR department for good measure
Most modern news companies are liberal as **** , dude. If I ever found depending on them to pay my salary you can bet your ass I'd pretend to adopt their outlook. It's the twenty-first century, you wanna do well by yourself these days you gotta be willing to put paychecks before pride.
kids just asking questions, considering how everyone liberals is so touchy, he can't just ask him "don't you think that's a bit racist"
facts are facts, people in bad/poor neighborhoods whether they are black, Mexican, Indians, white trailer trash move into a suburban area and then with in a year or two it will be prominently considered a black/Mexican/ext. neighborhood because they flock and just mess up a once quiet and nice residential area.
but lets be honest, talking about it is racist nowadays because race is involved #2016
i'm going to write an essay one day in which i explain how you're wrong about mostly everything. It IS true that black neighborhoods = higher crime, but you have the wrong idea WHY.
Also protip, it isn't poverty, it's their genes that make them into animals. Doesn't work.
Poverty for blacks and hispanics is around 25% while whites are around 10% www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr11-17.pdf
There are 50 million Latinos.
Around 39 million Blacks.
And 170 million whites. www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf
This means that…
12.5 million Latinos are poor.
10 Million Blacks are poor
and 17 million whites are poor.
There are more poor white people than Latinos or Blacks.
If poverty was the leading cause, white people would still be making most of the crime because there's more white people and poor whites than blacks or Latinos.
The poverty argument doesn't stand.
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Genes don't simply influence intelligence, genes make it. Environmental factors can either improve or diminish it. It's is our genes that make us more than Chimpanzees. Genes don't stop working where our species ends.
If you want quantify intelligence you can do school, IQ, g factor tests, finance. It all ends the same.
Race will prove to be the greatest determinant in any type of crime and it's silly to imply that all races are the same.
Compare a village of Gypsies and a tribe of Mongolians. They are both nomadic people living simple lives and most of them would live in poverty. But to say that just because they are nomadic they are the same is quite wrong. They are just different, they act differently, they have a different mentality, they have different goals in life that reflect on their cultural and racial achievements.
as somebody who has lived in upstate new york..... yes. this is sadly true, as racist as it sounds, i feel terrible saying it, but its so true. lived in a nice quiet clean well kept small town, then a nearby town's prison had families of prisoners complaining that they lived to far and couldn't see their family in the prison, so they took a few neighborhoods in our town and turned them into government housing. within a week, our family was assaulted and mugged. in our driveway. houses were trashed, people hurt. didn't take us long to move to the south.
i would have suggested getting a firearm and shoot a person you is trying to attack you on your own damn property. but New York....sooo yea good choice moving.
Generalizations can be dangerous. I have a couple black friends that "act white" and they are some of the coolest people I've met. I've also met white people raised in "black neighborhoods" that I wouldn't want to be around at all. Stereotypes exist for a reason, but you can't just generalize and be right at the same time. You have to pick one.
That's why there's a difference between black people and ******* though. A black person is simply an average person that is black, nothing more to it. A ****** on the other hand, is someone that actively tries to not be an upstanding member of their community. They don't necessarily have to be black, but the majority of them are. Whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, they can all be ******* .
Except that's an unbelievably stupid and unnecessarily offensive way to put it. The guy in the video doesn't see the difference between ' ******** and black people, he just said minorities. Which is why generalising can be dangerous. (I'm not the anon you responded to)
Sure, it has nothing to do with the colour of their skin. It has everything to do with their upbringing and personality. However it is not inaccurate to say that in that area it is the 'minorities' who were more commonly brought up in said environments and would bring that environment with them. The fact that it's a scapegoat doesn't change the fact that in the end the predicted results are accurate.
From his point of view this is extremely logical. He's personally seen an area he knew become populated largely by minority groups, and that area took a turn for the worse. It may not be reflective of all people who are minorities, but it's reflective of all the minorities he's seen so you can't really fault him for taking this view. If a minority family moved in there from out of town, were well spoken and well off, he probably wouldn't see them the same as the others. Can't hate.
You left out the part where he used that to defend criminal activity. He's mad that black people cause crime, so he suggests that crime is a justifiable response, what, as some sort of pre-emptive strike?
"I think if people just stayed on their own side of town, then [arson] wouldn't happen"
If you don't understand that means he's justifying it, you're either retarded or too much of a coward to at least admit it.
He doesn't justify the crime. He gives a theoretical solution to how to prevent future arson. People aren't gonna set their friends/neighburs' homes on fire, after all.
>woman cuts man's dick off for catcalling her
>interview with some feminist says "if men just stopped catcalling, they wouldn't get attacked"
>huge conservative hugbox *********
dont pretend like that wouldnt happen
>Conservative seen as synonymous with disagreeing with cultural marxism.
But I digress. I'm not defending the man either, I'm just saying, I don't think he feels the arson was justified. You always value things differently when it happens closer to you. And this interview can't have been too long after the incident. I don't believe anyone would be entirely calm and collected at that moment.
"when things like that happen, it shouldn't be such a shock"
That means he thinks that it's natural for people to torch black people's homes for choosing to live near them.
He thinks that's a normal thing to happen because he thinks they deserve their homes to be torched. No, he doesn't explicitly say it, but anyone who's not so autistic they can't pick up on basic conversational context realizes that his only reaction being "these things just happen" is a cowardly way of saying he thinks that it should happen. I mean, every other comment on this page pretty clearly shows that they've picked up on that. If you can't acknowledge that, it's not just disingenuous, it's delusional.
I never said you weren't -- I'm just saying that "well he didn't say to burn down his house" is the philosophical equivalent of a spoiled child saying "I'm not touching youuuu"
Crime is for ******* , and it turns out "I thought he would commit a crime in the future despite having no evidence against him other than my redneck senses" doesn't actually work in court.
I wouldn't call it a race problem so much as a social problem. If a bunch of white trailer trash suddenly moved into the neighborhood and didn't change their trailer-trashy ways to fit their new surroundings, you would see the same problems. Not saying I disagree with his opinion, just that I look at it from a different perspective. The first batch of "minorities" were probably well intended and tried to change to their new surroundings, then more families come that bring more of their problems, then more families with their problems, and on until the nice neighborhood is like the old one everyone moved away from.
It's just like with the whole violence between the police and minorities thing. If you put a mostly black police force in a poor asian neighborhood, you will continue to see the same type of profiling, maybe even the same kind of violence, maybe even an "Asian Lives Matter" group protesting the police violence against asians. Then you'd see it go from an organization for raising awareness of a societal problem to a bunch of know-it-all hipsters (many of whom not even asian) actually promoting racism against blacks because of black cops, then everything goes right back to race instead of addressing the problems with the society that made cops profile in the first place.
Also not saying racism and discrimination doesn't exist. It does, and it will continue to exist so long as certain stereotypes continue to be reinforced by the "minorities" involved. (By that, I mean the ones who continue bemoaning the problems they have while doing nothing to fix it, let alone change what they're doing. It's relevant to all races, from ghetto ****** to trailer-trash wite bois). Just saying "Minorities moving in = bad for the area" will be normal until we can fix the problems with our society.
The reason that there are getthos isn't because of black people. It's because of poor people. Now black people are commonly the poor ones to ruin neighbourhoods, so I guess thats were the stereotype comes from.
There are so many people like that person: They will swear up and down that they're not name calling or anything like that as they're calling you a bigot, racist, etc. They have so little intellectual honesty and believe they are so infallible and morally right that they don't even know what they are saying.
I mean, listen to his justification: "Those words are definable in a dictionary, so they're not name calling!" He probably was dismissing everything the other guy had said in his mind solely based off his ego-boosting sense of moral superiority.
I thought that was what he was going to starting talking about too. You can define words like idiot, stupid, moron, etc. How the **** is there a difference. What a ******* dumbass.
I love it when white people say this it creates a ********* but when black people go "you in the wrong hood, homie" or Hispanics says "ey, you lost holmes?" no one gives a ****
This is a case in which theory and practice butt heads. Hard. And theory ***** all over itself while dying.
IN THEORY this guy is a racist piece of human garbage.
IN PRACTICE, however, he is probably, statistically, factually correct.
I never grew up in "the projects" or "the hood" but we had ****** up kids and gangster-wannabes too. ALMOST NONE OF THEM WERE WHITE. The overwhelming majority (in MY area, during the time of MY childhood) of criminals were Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese, a few Natives, and a few Lao people (holler).
Due to society and economics it was easier for those groups to fall into poverty and crime. There was also the "cool foreigner" factor. Who the **** fears a thug named Steve? Or Carl? Or Dan?
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"Meng Quin Xi, The Chinky-Eyed Dick-Stabber"... THAT would keep me awake at night.
God I can hear the "this is my first reporting gig after graduating by licking the nuts of my liberal professors" in this interviewer's voice
I can hear the "my first semester in college really opened my eyes" in his stammering
Buffalo is such a rat piece of **** now, the crime is awful, on pat with Rochester, which is east of it, because of all the ******* making those cities **** , seriously I've seen the good and bad sides of buffalo, the good sides with the zoo and the naval harbor and everything, all fantastic, rarely ever see a ************* , see some blacks occasionally, but never a good rat ****** , now going through the east side, it's complete **** , it's ******* filthy and disgusting and I hate it, the ******* university has so much god damn crime, several reported on occasions since the semester started, rochester is the same way, some nice parts, some better sub urban and smaller off branching cities and towns like Henrietta and Chili and **** , but the main city is overcrowded with ******* , I live about an hour from buffalo and an hour and a half from rochester, and my small ass town has an over 95% whit population, the only real crime here is god damn drugs, if you took this whole county, compared the murders and break in to rochester or buffalo, it's a safe bet it'd he alot lower, becuase there's no ******* or spics here to **** everything up, I know black families and Mexicans, they're nice, but they aren't hood rat ******* , and I can easily see this beautiful dairy driven county becoming like these cities in a few decades
also buffalo mentioned, swell with ****** sports teams, good wings, and channel 2 news, get ****** channel 4 plebs
I'm still currently in highschool, junior year, just went to a college fair at Houghton and R.I.T. was there, I want to go for Astrophysics but they don't offer that, just physics, so I'd either go there for my major, or Lycoming down in Pennsylvania, cause that specifically offfers Astrophysics
You might want to go with the general physics degree, because it gives you options if you ever want to get out of astrophysics, but, that's for you to decide in your senior year. How are you ejnoying high school?
So I did a little more digging and it turns out the fire was probably started by a white dude in response to an AFRICAN native (not living here already) moving into this nieghborhood. Not bashing the dude cause he may have not known but this is a case where what he is saying may be true but it isn't applicable to the situation.
The dude who moved in probably had no idea there was a racial distinction between the areas of the city and just wanted to get out of Africa and come to America.
Common guys this is just like the blind kid bandwagon. I am all for hating on people but lets hate the right people. Source was the Blaze so its super right-wing also.