There are 4 other shots of him in the trailer, mouth closed. I bet Joker did the teeth himself, clearly, and the first reveal shot (left) shows medical **** all around him. He's about to torture someone, its PG-13 but pushing PG-13's limits they have the option to show and then cut away Joker gnawing at someone's neck or shoulder with his bare teeth. This isn't Marvel, its DC. Their movies are much more dark and push the boundaries of their ratings.
It also sets them up for a cool stylized shot of him losing the grill, someone punching it out (as you can't get away with punching out a tooth in PG-13, haha) or himself right after tearing up and torturing whoever is on that table (again, I think its probably obvious who). He probably won't have the teeth for half the movie even. He's whimsical.
Also consider, there is much rumor that Suicide Squad will be Rated R, in the same way as DeadPool exists in the Marvel cinematic Universe but is confirmed R. George Miller of Mad Max (who was originally wanting to direct Justice League a decade ago) was on set of Suicide Squad talking to David Ayer. So I just keep an open mind til we see the real product. I imagine George is in talks to direct a later DC movie and wants to see what the other talent involved is doing.
Even if the grill lasts the movie, which I doubt, I see no reason he'll keep it indefinitely. Joker has an evolving style or anti-style. Joker in the comics never looked just one way but it was always the same character (well, mostly).
i see what youre saying but as for how he looks in the previews and trailers. not even just him but many of the characters look gaudy and overdone, and i really hope they dont stay that way
Actually kinda like the teeth, its a nice reminder of the old ass cartoons and whatnot where you see joker get his teeth knocked out everytime he got hit.
This is set around the same time as Batman v Superman, which apparently takes place 20 years after batman first started doing his thing. How many times must the Joker have had his face beaten in by bats (and probably various others) during that time?
I actually like the idea that he got capped teeth cause Batman had knocked them down his throat.
And the tattoos, meh, it's creative license. It wont be the joker were used to, but i think thats a good thing cause nothing is going to compare on-screen to Heath leger's joker in my opinion. So im glad theyre not going to try and are instead taking it into a different direction.
Yeah, I actually really like the look of this joker. When it was first revealed you shouldve seen how many of those heath ledger fanboys were talking **** .
**** I'm going to make a confession that will probably seem silly to most of you. I'm absolutely terrified by Leto's Joker. I watched the trailer before bed yesterday and didn't sleep at all. Ledger's Joker didn't scare me, I was just stunned by the performance. But this **** . I don't know. I watched the last part of trailer literally over 10 times to try to get myself used to it, but it hasn't helped. I'm considering calling my mom and telling her how freaked out I am by a ******* movie trailer because I have no one else irl that I'd admit this to. Is anyone out there feeling the same way? As a backstory that might explain my fear: I had a boyfriend in high school that would act like the Joker - very close to this Joker's demeanor. It was fun at first, it was the year of The Dark Knight premiere and we were both really excited. I had just gotten into comics and I was one of those girls who openly rooted for the bad guy. and he caught on to that. But he eventually got really, really dark, way too into it, and I left him. So maybe I'm terrified by this **** because of how my ex was acting near the end of our relationship... In any case, thanks for reading if you've got this far. If anyone really cares, I'd love to talk it out so I'm not laying awake in psychotic agony for more nights.
He sure as hell look more scary. I liked Ledgers Joker because he was more of a smartly-insane guy, not shy to take extreme risks. But Leto's Joker, I dont know what to expect. He looks so much more agressive. I kinda like it.
Speaking of spooky things. To this day I am absolutely, extremely terrified of the woman from Grudge. Like, I have seen many, many horror movies. But to this day, ever since I watched it when I was like 13 or something, it still...almost haunts me. I am 22 now, I am too old for this **** . But I have to admit, I am terrified by that thing to this very day and I can still lively imagine it.
Hey, you're never too old to be scared of things. But being an adult makes it embarrassing to say out loud, I feel. I just feel so freakin' stupid being scared of a damn movie trailer at this day and age. There's so much **** out there on the internet, pictures of actual gore and torture and the like, and I have to be terrified by THIS?
When I first saw the trailer, I was like "wow this Joker is so different and pretty insane," but then it actually sunk in. A stupid, stupid sense of fear that I can't run away from. I'm preparing myself for another sleepless night, staying awake playing electronic scrabble or solitaire.
The 10 seconds of footage that shows Leto's Joker brings up my ex's mannerisms. He acted psychotic, like this, by the time I ended the relationship. He was crazy, but I never thought it damaged me. I thought it was just stupid teenager stuff. He never psychically hurt me, I never felt the need to reach for outside help. Not until I saw this trailer. He can't come back to me, I haven't been in contact with him for over 6 years. So why am I scared out of my mind? This isn't him. This is a ******* character. It's a fake character. It's a picture on the screen. But I'm terrified and I don't know why.
You stated you lack friends. Thus you lack company. Say, have you had many relationships/new people come to your life ever since you broke up with your ex? Do you live far from the place where you used to live when you were with him? Perhaps you never really moved on as much as you think. Getting more people into your life sort of negates that, but when you have met few people in your life, youll remember them much more lively. Maybe that. And the fact that your mind sort of realizes that people can act this deranged in real life too.
What sort of Solitaire are you playing? I love Klondike, always seemed more fun to me.
I realized I mispelled physically - I didn't mean psychically.
I've had friends come and go since high school. I've only had one relationship since him that ended amicably after graduating college. I live in Arizona right now, and as far as I know my high school ex still resides in Boston, thousands of miles away. I tell myself I'll never see him again. I'm still settling in here, so hopefully I'll establish some friends.
I play Klondike too. There's so many possibilities that every game is different enough to be enjoyable.
Arizona? I'd melt. I personally love the feeling of settling down somewhere new. It always feels so anonymous at start, like you are just visiting, noone knows you. I really like that. Or maybe it's just my soul crushing social anxiety
Totally. My online friends are closer to me than majority of my peers. I suppose it's because it's much easier to show who you actually are on the internet. That is why I consider most people i meet shallow and boring (they see me the same way, I assume).
The pack mentality really hurts ones social interractions I feel. On the internet, we may be just as judgemental, but atleast we are honest about it.
I definitely feel like I can open up more to my online friends. Or online in general, like now. I like that I can avoid any awkward facial expressions or tones of voices. Definitely less uncomfortable.
Friend, I have massive social anxiety. This is why it's hard to make friends in the real world. At least when I was in grade school and college I saw the same people everyday and you make meaningful connections relatively quickly.
I got sleep two nights ago. I love sleeping. I saw the trailer. No sleep.
That is why I asked. Might want to try to get some during the day. Might make it less spooky.
I'd really like to give you some good advice, but things like this just need time. Because at the end of the day, you know it's irrational and all that.
Speaking of the movie. What is your opinion on the new Harley Quinn?
No need for more advice, I appreciate what you've already said, really. I'll try napping in the day. I do love napping...
I've been having mixed feelings about Harley. I don't like her costume all that much. She looks like a hooker who's been attacked. But she seems to have that insane-but-innocent thing going on in a good way.
I feel similar way. The innocent part that want's you to get close to her, because she is somewhat sweet is definitely there. But the femininity is lacking. She looks like a cheap crackwhore in new shorts. A bit too edgy too. We will see I guess. Will Smith, even though I enjoy him as an actor seems out of place. I really dislike that. It just makes me focus on him too much, since he always plays the leader role. And thus enjoy joker and Quinn less.
God, I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels like Will Smith is out of place. You can tell by most of the group shots he's the real center of the group. Yes he's probably the leader of the Squad in this but...I feel like he shouldn't be. Even though it's evident he won't, I just want him to have the mask on in all of the scenes. The mask makes Deadshot. Will Smith has a nice face but I don't want to see it on a character that's supposed to be behind a mask. He probably doesn't wear the mask that often because he's Will Smith. "Look, public, Will Smith is the lead. You guys like Will Smith. Look at his face. See this movie."
I agree there is little to no femininity in this Harley. She's supposed to be sensual, funny. Not some teenager-looking junkie with dirty ponytails. The car scene looks good. She made a good quip there. But besides that, I'm not diggin' it.
Now I feel somewhat embarassed. WIll Smith is supposed to be Deadshot. Ohhhhhhh. I didnt make that connection because why the heck would he show his face so much. Okay, I really ******* dislike that.
I agree so hard. Just because Hollywood wants to have a multiracial cast to appease everyone doesn't mean they need to make a historically white character black.
Sometimes the personal things that you can relate to are worse than potentially scary scenes that don't cause any personal connection. Joker ex sounds weird as hell, I can imagine why it'd hit a nerve.
Ever seen The Babadook? Pretty decent horror film, but despite the suspense and scary bits, the part that made my hair stand on end and put me in a panic was when the woman screams in anger. It was a dead ringer for my own mother's screams of rage, one of the few things I'm genuinely scared of. I think that's an issue I've got to work out somehow...
I've never experienced this kind of connection before and it's scaring the hell out of me. One way to look at it is I've been triggered, but I don't want to be compared to one of those tards on tumblr that are "triggered" by food or doctors. I never realized until yesterday that said ex could have ever caused this mental implosion. I haven't seen or heard from him in over 6 years. I live in the southwest now and for all I know he's still on the east coast. I never thought I'd be thinking about him again. I ******* hate that he's left me with this awoken torment. I just took a 4.5 mile walk to clear my head and **** did not work.
I haven't seen that movie yet, but I think it's on Netflix. I've been curious about it. Sorry that brought up a memory for you, but at least now I can relate and we can hurt together, bud.
Thanks for the support. I never expected all these heart-felt responses.
Ain't going to pry about what that relationship was like, though as an ex I doubt it was all roses, hopefully no worse than that. And I'm not a therapist, so I'm not going to try and suggest anything to help in case it backfires, though I empathize with having that one switch that can put you straight into a bad place. I suppose the best thing to do is think that at the end of the day he's just a weirdo living miles away, nothing a swift kick to the nadgers can't fix. And it's been a while since he's been in your life, going to stay that way I imagine. Can't let bad memories muddy the good experiences in life.
There was luckily never any physical trauma in the relationship - I ended it before it got to that point. He started to carry around knives and the darker Joker mannerisms became more frequent so I decided it was enough. Like I said, I never knew until now that he caused this kind of deep-seated mental distress. I've been beating myself up over how this all came up because of a movie trailer. I can't believe how it's effecting me. It's unreal and it seems so...stupid.
Thanks for your words, they help. I just moved and have no friends here. Over the years I've learned what a nice community FJ can be but I've never had the guts to put something so personal up. But I see how kind some of you guys can be and I'm glad how much I've written out.
Yeah. Method actors.
Anyway, I'm sorry I can't relate terribly well to your issue. When it comes to people, I just never feel that sort of irrational, takes over your mind kind of fear.
But if it helps, I've always felt that way about machines. Even when I'm looking at an exposed engine or computer parts, an inexplicable anxiety comes over me. I don't know why, and it's got to the point when there's a sort of thrilling curiosity to it. I don't know how to cure fear, but I can sort of help you live with it. Whenever you see Leto's joker, or any other thing that might set you off, try just going with it. Breath heavy, lie awake. Be scared.
Corny as it sounds, it's part of being alive.
I've already accepted that this feeling won't go away for quite a while. It's going to be some ride when new footage comes out, I'm telling you. Over a year to go. I'll be counting it down.
I dunno, nothing about it seems creepy or intimidating to me. Also, I just keep thinking that he should be saying "badly" and not bad and it is bothering me. Kind of a passing annoyance though.
Thanks friend. I think a lot of people were terrified by E.T. How did you get over it? I'm sure time helps, but Suicide Squad doesn't come out until August next year and the hype will only get higher. More scenes will be revealed. I'll probably have to see the movie for curiosity sake and maybe try not to **** in my seat. Maybe this is the worst scene? The scariest he'll be? But there's some leaked set footage of Harley (as Harleen) shooting a guy because I think he was involved in a fender bender with them. If Harley can just shoot a citizen, what will Joker be doing? My ex never got into gun play, but there were knives - I've never told anyone, not even my parents or brother, about that part of the relationship. Will this Joker use knives? I mean probably. The rest of the movie looks interesting and cool and I want to see it, but Leto might be ruining it for me. Not like how other people say he is with his tattoos and ridiculous grill and how he comes off as emo, but because of how insane he appears. I don't know how to get over it, fam.
I clearly remember when they had the E.T. anniversary, and all those commercials started appearing again. I lived in terror every time I watched TV.
What changed it for me, was cutting out a picture of the little **** from the newspaper, then looking at that a few times a day.
Exposure therapy, basically. I kept doing that until I felt confident to watch the whole movie (and by whole, I mean the parts that were the least scary, and with no sound on).
I still haven't seen the "they meet in the field" scene in its entirety, because it scares the living **** out of me, but it's gotten to the point where I can look at pictures of the guy without freaking out.
My advice is to keep exposing yourself, just a little at a time. It really depends how strongly you react to it.
Nothing about that alien is natural (yeah I know it's an alien, but still) or remotely "endearing." It's a gross wrinkly thing I don't understand how that design was accepted. I guess because it was...different. Nothing ever seen before.
Dude. When I google ET concept art to see if there was anything better they could've used (definitely not), there was Joker **** . WHY IS IT FOLLOWING ME. **** . (No, not Leto stuff, but still that's just not right.)
That's why I spent over 2 hours in the middle of the night switching from watching the end bit of the trailer, looking up set photos and leaked footage, and reading about the movie in general. I thought constantly looking at him or reading about him would help. It didn't make it better, it didn't make it worse, it's just a constant underlying feeling of fear. I look at it a lot when I'm on the computer in hopes I will eventually get over it (I mean, it's been less than 20 hours since this all began), but I was outside watching my dog as he struggled with his poops and I then I started to feel like crying because the ******* thing was replaying in my mind and I couldn't get his stupid FACE out of my peripheral vision.
Something is going on that needs to be taken care of by professionals with a licence to kill and the skill to get it done efficiently
However they don't want to throw good guys on the line in case something goes wrong so they don't get a bad picture
So the suicide squad is the team of bad guys going to do a good thing
The only thing that's left a mystery is what exactly they're fighting
Unless they're fighting the joker
But that seems odd
I dunno
Does that help?
Apparently there was a leak of these weird looking creatures attacking whatever city Suicide Squad is sent to. My guess is that Joker let these creatures out to cause chaos. Whatever it is, Joker is at the center.
I like Harley's design. A design exactly like the comics would look out of place in a live action movie, and the casting looks pretty good to me. Not the biggest fan of the Joker's design, but the performance seems like it will be good, although you can't judge from one line. Plus, you have to admit, Killer Croc looks great.
Okay I will say this right here right now.
The Joker's Teeth: If you get your ass kicked by Batman every single day, you would lose some damn teeth. And I don't think they quite care for proper dental in Arkham, so thus comes those wonderful little grills.
Harley's design: I for one really like it, 'cause if you imagine her in the classic spandex suit it really wouldn't fit into the feel of this all. Sure the black/red combo could be a little bit more prominent but hey, clothes ARE liable to change. (I don't mind the no accent, just as long as she gets the character herself right.)