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anon (12/27/2015) [-]
It has more to do with how things played out for the indians after they were no longer free to move. alcoholism , depression and suicide rates are relatively high in the reservations they were moved to. It is a sad thing the two cultures couldn't exist together because the tribes were full with fascinating folklore and myths.
It basicly boils down to the atrocious manifest destiny. "Your god(s) gave you this land but my god promised it to me, and welll... I have guns. "
And on the whole thanksgiving thing, all holidays are retarded.
Yes a significant part of the tribes died before colonisation begun.
It basicly boils down to the atrocious manifest destiny. "Your god(s) gave you this land but my god promised it to me, and welll... I have guns. "
And on the whole thanksgiving thing, all holidays are retarded.
Yes a significant part of the tribes died before colonisation begun.
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yumyumtittysucker (12/27/2015) [-] Nothing in history should be forgotten, no matter how terrible it may be, but to celebrate it is a different matter.
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ninjaflapjack (12/27/2015) [-]
Maybe because we don't like the previous example of ethnic cleansing with how jews protested against it post war after being subjected to it n **** .
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kingpongthedon (12/27/2015) [-]
1. It's still how we do things. That would be why the Israel/Palestine conflict is being referenced, albeit mockingly. But we could say the same thing for what's going on in the Ukraine. For greater examples, look at the European land-grabs throughout the first half of the 20th Century.
2. It's still a ****** thing to do. Just because it happened a long time ago and arguably made the world a better place doesn't change the fact that it sucked for the people living there beforehand. Even though the Vikings set the course of Europe from about 800 AD on, they're still widely regarded as assholes. Sure, we celebrate a select few but we certainly don't condone the overall rape-and-pillage mindset they had.
2. It's still a ****** thing to do. Just because it happened a long time ago and arguably made the world a better place doesn't change the fact that it sucked for the people living there beforehand. Even though the Vikings set the course of Europe from about 800 AD on, they're still widely regarded as assholes. Sure, we celebrate a select few but we certainly don't condone the overall rape-and-pillage mindset they had.
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mennopauze (12/27/2015) [-] That's probably the dumbest thing I read all day. Time to bring back slavery because they used to do it all across history, right?
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hongkonglongdong (12/27/2015) [-]
If everyone is murdering everyone else, that doesn't make murder okay.
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anon (12/27/2015) [-]
Its not the fact that palestine lost land by force.
Its more about how israel is still trying to expand, is constantly killing civilians while whining whenever the palestinians do as much as throw a rock at them to try to fight back, how they screw over local air space, and many other.
Not to mention how if it weren't jews doing this and if it were, lets say, russia or greece or romania or anyone else other than a nation of jews or the united states thanks to their propaganda network and relation to the west ******* over a neighboring nation, people would downright lose their **** so hard.
Also how the kikes keep up the GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE GOY IT WAS OUR LAND ALL THE TIME WE WERE CHASED OFF YES YES, act is really pissing people off.
Its more about how israel is still trying to expand, is constantly killing civilians while whining whenever the palestinians do as much as throw a rock at them to try to fight back, how they screw over local air space, and many other.
Not to mention how if it weren't jews doing this and if it were, lets say, russia or greece or romania or anyone else other than a nation of jews or the united states thanks to their propaganda network and relation to the west ******* over a neighboring nation, people would downright lose their **** so hard.
Also how the kikes keep up the GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE GOY IT WAS OUR LAND ALL THE TIME WE WERE CHASED OFF YES YES, act is really pissing people off.
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salihzzz (12/27/2015) [-] The world loves conquerors, a great man leading an army of brave men to take what they want for themselves betting their life for glory and riches for their people.
Israel on the other hand was given that land and defended it trough help from other nations and allying with supposed enemies, they never proclaimed to be conquerors they claim to be the victims, while litteraly everything was given to them. they whine about injustice abroad when their nation is built upon it.
So yes conquest to power is respected
conquest trought thievery is not
Israel on the other hand was given that land and defended it trough help from other nations and allying with supposed enemies, they never proclaimed to be conquerors they claim to be the victims, while litteraly everything was given to them. they whine about injustice abroad when their nation is built upon it.
So yes conquest to power is respected
conquest trought thievery is not
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bronywiseman ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-] Yeah, and everyone had their foreskins cut off, and lived to 40 at best.
That doesn't mean it's a good thing.
That doesn't mean it's a good thing.
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bronywiseman ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-]
And?
It was a reality, yes. My point still stands. Just because something was common, that doesn't mean it's right.
Moping doesn't do anything, no. But looking back and examining does.
Every day, we are finding extra planets, and new ways of exploring them.
If we are going to be meeting other cognitive, self-aware species, we need to examine the past to ensure that we don't repeat it.
It was a reality, yes. My point still stands. Just because something was common, that doesn't mean it's right.
Moping doesn't do anything, no. But looking back and examining does.
Every day, we are finding extra planets, and new ways of exploring them.
If we are going to be meeting other cognitive, self-aware species, we need to examine the past to ensure that we don't repeat it.
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brobyddark (12/27/2015) [-] Pretty much everyone's point is that, while it wasn't right, bitching about it when things certainly have changed and turning a family holiday about being thankful into a hatefest for the "evil whites" is a pretty **** thing to do.
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anon (12/27/2015) [-]
Trying to have a serious discussion while attaching images from a cartoon to your statements is kind of counterproductive. It's fine for normal, lighthearted conversations, but using reaction images when you're supposedly talking about something serious only indicates that you really aren't taking it seriously.
Brush this off as pony hate if you will, but it isn't. I've nothing against most bronies, but a cartoon horse is not relevant to a discussion of genocide and frankly I find it somewhat insulting to the memories of the dead
Brush this off as pony hate if you will, but it isn't. I've nothing against most bronies, but a cartoon horse is not relevant to a discussion of genocide and frankly I find it somewhat insulting to the memories of the dead
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bronywiseman ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-] So posting a picture of a cartoon horse while talking about a people that were hideously murdered is disrespectful, but having an entire holiday dedicated to the murderer of those people is fine?
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anon (12/27/2015) [-]
I said literally nothing about my opinion of whether or not Thanksgiving is fine, so good job trying to shove words in my mouth, buddy. However, since you brought it up, I do think Thanksgiving is fine. Not because I think what we did to the Natives is cool, but because the thing you and every other dumbass that pisses and moans about Thanksgiving being a murder holiday choose to ignore is that Thanksgiving is not a celebration of the pilgrims taking land from the Native Americans. It is, and always has been, a celebration of a good harvest. Nothing more, nothing less. "Thanksgiving days" were celebrated before the first pilgrims set foot on American soil, and if you bothered to do even the most basic research, you would realize that there is nothing in the origin of Thanksgiving that has to do with stealing anyone's land.
You and Silverman are both idiots of the highest calibre. Only a complete fool or a sociopath would ever think that millions of humans would celebrate a holiday based around murder. You just like to bitch because you get off on white guilt.
You and Silverman are both idiots of the highest calibre. Only a complete fool or a sociopath would ever think that millions of humans would celebrate a holiday based around murder. You just like to bitch because you get off on white guilt.
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uglychino (12/27/2015) [-] How often do you see Indians ************ . The other countries that get taken over don't have genocide committed to them too with starvation, diseases, and bullets. We have to remind people again and again cause white people will do it again and again.
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uglychino (12/27/2015) [-] yeah, "civil". I guess it's civil when you're holding the fire hose, when you have the chains on black throats, when you drop two bombs on other countries, when you invade three other countries cause two buildings I watched fall. Whites are pretty evil man. They're the only race that ****** every race on every continent. I'm pretty sure history is pretty great for whites when all they do is slaughter and steal.
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uglychino (12/27/2015) [-] At every corner whites have done the wrong thing. Genghis Khan is one example from his race and the last. Isis is a necessary evil and its a recent example and Whites, Blacks, Orientals want to join Isis cause It's a idea from religion, you stupid bitch. ISIS Exist because of white oppression in the Middle East. Even the U.S gov admits ISIS is a result from the war a war whites started. I'm White too you ***** heads and I'm saying my race are assholes everywhere.
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manofiron (12/27/2015) [-] Yes, because white people are the only ethnic group capable of committing atrocities. Get real. I'm not saying that what we did in the past is alright, it's not, it was horrible. I'm simply saying that you can't point fingers at only white people, saying that "Oh, white people are the evilest people ever." while pretending that other ethnic groups didn't do things just as bad, if not worse. It's not just whites that "slaughter and steal" that's always been human nature, but we're getting better. Still have a long way to go, mind you, but we've come a long way, nonetheless.
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anon (12/27/2015) [-]
Every race ****** as many people as they could. Whites just happen to be better than everyone else at it. Your precious Indians were slaughtering each other's villages for fun long before they ever met a white person. White people were just better at it than them, and today we have electricity. You're welcome.
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bronywiseman ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-] Well, those people's attackers aren't celebrated annually.
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bronywiseman ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-] Yeah... I know. That's kinda what we're talking about here.
I mean okay so the above post is probably about Thanksgiving, but Freddy here is talking about native Americans and how other people had their stuff taken from them, so...
I guess what I mean is that while the post isn't about Columbus day, that's what I was referencing.
I mean okay so the above post is probably about Thanksgiving, but Freddy here is talking about native Americans and how other people had their stuff taken from them, so...
I guess what I mean is that while the post isn't about Columbus day, that's what I was referencing.
