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Kylo Ren Facts

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Kylo's Obsession With Vader

Ill shove these spoilers right down your throat from the get-go. Kylo Ren, Son of Han Solo and Princess Leia is the product of corruption from Supreme Leader Snoke. Originally trained by Luke Skywalker he was brain washed by Snoke and now, well, the guys evil. And his Role Model? Grandpa Vader. With a mask and overall look that resembles his, the guys even got his burnt mask in his room. Now he wants nothing more than to prove to Darth Vader that he is a worthy Grandson.

Kylo Ren's Lightsaber

Constructed at the hand of Kylo Ren this lightsaber is one of a kind. Made very crudely the lightsaber was based on an ancient design dating back thousands of years to the Great Scourge of Malachor. A single cracked Kyber crystal, barely able to contain the weapon's power, necessitated the lateral vents which produced these crossguard quillons and gave the weapon's red plasma blades an unstable, serrated appearance.

He thinks that Darth Vaders failing was in Lack of Ambition

J. J. Abrams has said that Kylo Ren is part of a generation of new villains who see the Empire’s failure as one of ambition.The Imperial Forces failed because they were not as powerful, large, or ruthless as they needed to be to succeed. This means that Kylo Ren’s approach to the continued war against the Rebel Alliance is to be even more destructive than his predecessors in order to find success where they failed.

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Kylo Ren is Young, and Very Reckless

If you have seen the movie you know that Kylo Ren is somewhat of an unstable... young adult if you will. From killing his own Father to slashing the **** out of control rooms when angered he is very reckless. Abrams describes him as not “fully formed” as Darth Vader is during the original trilogy. Over the course of the new trilogy, Kylo Ren will continue to develop.

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#11 - drperzik (12/30/2015) [-]

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#14 - adrenalinegiraffe (12/31/2015) [-]

I thoroughly enjoy Kylo Ren as a character and expect good things from him in the next two movies.

#91 to #14 - krabface (12/31/2015) [-]

A lot of people want a Vader clone it seems.

#57 to #14 - pappathethird (12/31/2015) [-]

He's amazing. He's excellently cast

#70 to #14 - irishjohnny (12/31/2015) [-]

I like him and all, but I couldn't take him seriously after I saw his face. He looks so goofy.

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#94 to #70 - whiteniggers (12/31/2015) [-]

oh my days

that's the POINT. he's not supposed to be taken seriously with the mask off. that's WHY HE WEARS IT.

#96 to #94 - irishjohnny (12/31/2015) [-]

Then they succeeded. but I didn't realize that until later.

#107 to #94 - oceanfrank (12/31/2015) [-]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.

#100 to #70 - lolglolblol (12/31/2015) [-]

me: take off your mask already
*he takes off mask*
me: put it back on, I've seen enough

#87 to #70 - zeebeejeebee (12/31/2015) [-]

in the same boat. when i was in theaters watching the scene where he takes his mask off, a bunch of people (including me) chuckled just because of how he looked. just overall funny lookin.

#93 to #87 - irishjohnny (12/31/2015) [-]

It just added to it when you realize he was interrogating someone, and took off his mask in an attempt to look more menacing. Unless he wanted to torture her with painful sides I don't think it would have worked.

#97 to #93 - mrhandss (12/31/2015) [-]

except he didn't, you have it backwards. He took off the mask only because Rey mocked him for wearing it and he fell for it. He knows he isn't enough like Vader and that's part of why he wears the mask. He NEEDS it to intimidate anyone.

#99 to #97 - irishjohnny (12/31/2015) [-]

Well to be fair, so did Vader. You can't intimidate anyone if you're dead.

#95 to #14 - captinchikin (12/31/2015) [-]

Thank God somebody said it. Everyone saying that he's whiny and annoying gets on my nerves when they don't realize that that's the point.

#73 to #14 - dreygur (12/31/2015) [-]

Glad this doesn't seem to be an unpopular opinion. He's one of, if not the most powerful in his district and tries to act like the toughest among his subordinates, but he still knows that he isn't able to pull it off yet because he's still one of the youngest among them.

#102 to #14 - injudicator (12/31/2015) [-]

Kylo Ren has substance as a villain. Clearly has a history, that we have only glimpsed and there is much more to come in terms of character development. What he did in Episode VII really shows the type of person we will be dealing with. And to those who call him whiny, the emotions that rage in him are pretty evident and that's why it is awesome to watch him. He is an actual human being gone on a dark path. Darth Maul in Episode 1 fell out of the damn sky, said nothing and just attacked. Count Dooku had substance but very little was explained in the actual movies. I am looking forward to seeing much more of Ren.

#59 to #14 - masdercheef (12/31/2015) [-]

Agreed, mate. The only thing I dislike about him is that he acts like an absolute dork sometimes, but that's to be expected from somebody so young with such a family history.

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#16 to #14 - parishailsatan (12/31/2015) [-]

I agree.

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#32 to #14 - triene (12/31/2015) [-]

GIF

Hear hear!

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#21 to #14 - anythingoes (12/31/2015) [-]

I fear for a "redemption through death". It looks like it's headed towards this, and it's the eact same thing that happened to Vader.

#27 to #21 - iseeyoufapping (12/31/2015) [-]

Yo here's what I'm hoping for: Both Rey and Kylo get their training and Rey become super badass, cept Rey falls to the dark side and Kylo falls to the light side. So kylo and buddies head of to confront rey. Then, even if we have redemption through death, we get to see some actually character instead of some last moment change like Vader.

#42 to #27 - fellatio (12/31/2015) [-]

character? rey? I'm sorry but that's a pretty big leap.

#130 to #42 - iseeyoufapping (12/31/2015) [-]

No, I meant from Ben/Kylo. Him being on the light side gives a good chance for character exposition while converting right before he dies tells us next to nothing. Basically, he's probably going to turn good at some point, I just hope we get more than a couple minutes of seeing it.

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#69 to #14 - tiinuyama (12/31/2015) [-]

i was really happy to see him use the exhaust vents to cut fin's shoulder

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#30 to #14 - mcassio ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

I wholeheartedly believe and hope that he will become the first of the Grey Knights. It's a long time coming for someone to finally sit down, take a look at both sides of the force, and realize that bringing balance to it means forging a middle path, not eradicating one side or the other.

#64 to #30 - greyblade (12/31/2015) [-]

I dunno. I think there's a place for grey knights, but it's a tricky balance. and, of course, it results in taking flak from both sides.

plus, the term "grey jedi" or "grey knight" is a pretty broad one. it encompasses anything from Qui-gon Jinn (considered a "grey" jedi due to his repeated disobedience with regards to the jedi council) to Jacen Solo (whose "grey" philosophy helped create a slippery slope that Lumia dragged him down in to straight up sithness.

I'd say some good examples of "Grey" philosophies were:

Revan (Post KotoR): Revan, unlike many grey force users, believed in the light and dark sides, but believed them to be very subtly intertwined, like a glass full of sand and sawdust, rather than divided simply as the jedi viewed it. he believed (much like luke's jedi) that emotion attachment were fine, so long as they weren't allowed to control you. Revan actaully offered to teach the jedi his new understanding of the force, but was privately shunned as a borderline heretic.

Potentium Follower etc: there were a number of groups (from the followers of the potentium who were exiled to Zonama Sekot, to the jedi-going-on-sith Jacen Solo) who believed that the dark and light sides were simply constructs - that the force was simply a tool, and the morality came from the use, not the abilities themselves (so force lightning - often considered a dark side power - wasn't innately evil, the good or bad aspect came from how it was used) this view was often rebuffed by the jedi, though Luke took it under consideration during the Swarm War (only to rebuff it again after seeing the effect such philosophies were having on his nephew)

and I'm sure there's others.

in terms of Kylo though, I don't see him going grey knight. I'm sort of expecting a redemption leading to him being a sort of grittier, less cheerful jedi. like, a light sider, but one who has to deal with the emnity of his comrades and the guilt over what he's done (possibly like Kyp Durron did towards the latter half of the yuzhaan vong war)

#110 to #64 - mcassio ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

The Grey Knights was an actual order, seperate from the Jedi and the Sith, that did their own thing.

#135 to #110 - greyblade (01/02/2016) [-]

were they? I don't recall any mention of such an order, and I can't find any.

There were the Iron Knights - force sensetive sentient Crystals who used droid bodies, but they were trained by a Jedi, and largely followed the jedi ideals

there were the Imperial knights - who served the light side as embodies by their emporer - but again, tied mostly to the light.

there were the grey paladins - force users who believed that the reliance on the force was a crutch, and preferred to rely on their own skills along with minimal force usage.

I dunno if you mean any of these, but none really fit the idea you're talking about

#38 to #30 - fellatio (12/31/2015) [-]

Seriously hope Kylo does this because he'd probably actually go through a journey to get there instead of Rey who would do her typical "reasons" and just suddenly become the grey jedi for, you guessed it; reasons.

#45 to #38 - nickelakon (12/31/2015) [-]

Well if Kylo really is also somewhat based off of Revan, that is possible.
I personally think it's likely we'll be taunted about how he still has good in him, but eventually he'll do something that gives him a final push to the dark side and gives him a point of no return.

#124 to #45 - slayzo (12/31/2015) [-]

I assumed killing his father was the last thing he needed to do to let go of the light. His father even helped him do it, because he needed help in doing it. Did I miss some post-credits scene that shows he still has tugs from the light side/

#129 to #124 - nickelakon (12/31/2015) [-]

I dont know
Haven't seen the movie
Just saying my opinion based on what I've heard about Kylo.

#68 to #45 - anon (12/31/2015) [-]

However, Disney has case all the previous information about Revan non-cannon. so i fear that kylo ren has no influence over revan, otherwise they wouldn't have done that, right?

#65 to #45 - greyblade (12/31/2015) [-]

I don't think kylo is based of revan. the mask is similar, granted, but he still feels closer to Jacen Solo in many ways - just younger, less powerful, and less stable.

#39 to #38 - mcassio ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

Rey has no reason. Like, literally none. At the moment, anyway. I could understand if what Luke was doing the entire time he was away was coming to terms with the idea that both the Jedi and the Sith were flawed extremes, and he teaches Rey that, but it would be way less satisfying than if Kylo received the redemption he needs and finally becomes the one who brings balance to the force.

#41 to #39 - fellatio (12/31/2015) [-]

that's my point, her whole character has no reason nor explanation. she can do everything, never fails and always manages to come out on top all while having no real personality or defining character traits.

Personally I want Kylo to be the hero of this story, the one who has been to both extremes and takes to heart his uncle's teachings (if that is how it hopefully will go).
That would not only make sense but actually be great writing they boy who was raised in the force grows up to realize that the previous two methods which he was a part of are both broken so he forges a new path seperate from both and literally brings balance to the force instead of some mary sue

#48 to #30 - darkjack ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

Grey Knights, you say?

it would be neat, though I don't trust J.J. to be able to make it seem decent looking at his track record as a director.
For the Emperor!

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#22 - zionsype ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

Kylo Ren FREAKS OUT in Everyday Situations | Star Wars Force Awakens Parody

#119 to #22 - fuckscreennames (12/31/2015) [-]

that is fantastic, i need more of this

#54 to #22 - boarderlinegreat (12/31/2015) [-]

GIF

Ho boy that's gold!

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#46 - undercow (12/31/2015) [-]

darth snape was pretty reckless..

#18 - itsbeowulftime ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

while I really enjoyed him as a character, I just couldn't take him seriously at all whenever he threw his hissy fits. Even his own storm troopers were like "Nah, **** that man, let's let him settle down before we go this way"

#23 to #18 - zionsype ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

Doesn't that show that the Storm Trooper DO take him seriously though, since they turned around to avoid getting in his way?

#55 to #23 - acebuck (12/31/2015) [-]

I'd back away from a retarded baby if it were waving a lightsaber around.

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#24 to #18 - telosxiv (12/31/2015) [-]

Honestly I think his hissy fits are the best part of his character. Hes taking every opportunity to embrace his anger so he can become stronger with the dark side. He's so zealous is his path on the dark side that he willingly sacrifices his self respect and composure just to make himself seem angrier.

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#1 - gragasvlad (12/30/2015) [-]

Kylo doesn't look like a villan he looks like a whiny brat

#26 to #1 - donfailed (12/31/2015) [-]

Plot twist: He's actually the central protagonist and the whole thing's redemption focused.

#50 to #26 - gragasvlad (12/31/2015) [-]

Please no... please noooooooo! then he is just vader all over again.

#67 to #50 - greyblade (12/31/2015) [-]

not necessarily. Vader did the redemption play, but then he died. it was a last minute thing. It'd be interesting to see the aftermath of a redemption:

"oh, hey, I'm the new guy, nice to meet you"

"yeah, I know who you are. you're the guy who blew up my home planet"

"oh, uh, **** ."

y'know. even if he turned back, there'd be a lot of pressure - from himself and others - reminding him of all he'd done. it'd be an interesting way to go.

and if he doesn't get redeemed, then how is he different from Maul, or Dooku, or Greivous, or Sidious?

#4 to #1 - thearcher (12/30/2015) [-]

He looks like a very conflicted person which is exactly who his character is - but still, you're right, a little menace on his face and eyes or even speech would go a long way

#2 to #1 - coloredundies [OP]ONLINE (12/30/2015) [-]

couldnt agree more. with the helmet he looks pretty scary but without it its just like... when'd you hit puberty? yesterday?

#3 to #2 - gragasvlad (12/30/2015) [-]

agreed that with the helmet he looks kind of evil, the problem is I know whats under the helmet.

#5 to #1 - guardianatreyu (12/30/2015) [-]

He looks like a huge dork to me. But that's the point really. He's an unstable conflicted child who's forcing himself to be the bad guy despite his own feelings. He wants to be a more hardcore Vader. But first he has to go through the rough Anakin stage before going fully to the darkside.

#10 to #1 - captainbalu (12/30/2015) [-]

Unpoular opinion: i think he's perfect for this role.why? Now if you put a guy who looks like a villain there it wouldn't fir as much cause kylo is still even if he's evil struggling with himself a lot. Even though the whole cinema laughed when he took off his mask (including me) i think he fits the role.

#12 to #10 - gragasvlad (12/30/2015) [-]

I think the big problem is he isn't going to look like a villan later down the line.

#13 to #12 - anon (12/31/2015) [-]

to be fair, when you look at how anakin skywalker looked first he also looks like a massive dork to me, but then with the longer hair and different eyes he suddenly got pretty evil

#36 to #13 - wertologist (12/31/2015) [-]

Yeah, but Kylo already has long hair and emo eyes. He looks like a bitch honestly.

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#6 to #1 - admin (12/30/2015) [-]

>>#3, >>#2, >>#5, >>#4, >>#1, just out of curiosity, what makes him look like a brat?

the dude is like 32 years old

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#8 to #6 - guardianatreyu (12/30/2015) [-]

I think it's more of his large facial features that make him look dorky. And then his behavior is what makes him bratty.

#7 to #6 - coloredundies [OP]ONLINE (12/30/2015) [-]

Its an opinion that alot of people have. but still, he looks like a young kid with the scruffy facial hair. also looks like the kind of guy that trys to be your bro at a party

#9 to #6 - gragasvlad (12/30/2015) [-]

I would say the face and how he holds himself. But there is also the fact that I expected something far more sinister looking under that mask of his.

#66 to #6 - greyblade (12/31/2015) [-]

I never got those sort of comments. I mean, look at some of history's villains - stalin was a little beefy, and most depictions of ghengis khan show him to be pretty scary, but most of the modern ones look pretty lame.

<--- take this guy. Heinrich Himmler, leader of the SS and one of the major players in the Nazi party. not exactly the stuff of nightmares.

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#47 to #6 - tacoiiimaniac (12/31/2015) [-]

He looks like a jew

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#53 - dragontamers (12/31/2015) [-]

General Leia

#80 - WATCHAGUNADOBOUTIT (12/31/2015) [-]

Okay I'm going to say this and I really want someone's opinion on this... But how the **** is lack of ambition a reason the Imperials failed? They were ******* ruthless as hell, how is the new order any more ruthless? I mean honestly. There's no way the director said that.

#98 to #80 - highkingtorygg (12/31/2015) [-]

the first order are nazis, so...

#81 to #80 - Greevon (12/31/2015) [-]

Well to be fair the Empire only blew up ONE planet. The First Order did several in one shot.

AND, the new Death Star thingy is much bigger. Plus, we never saw Imperial Soldiers massacring civilians in a mass grave, some might have assumed they did that but we never saw it.

#83 to #81 - WATCHAGUNADOBOUTIT (12/31/2015) [-]

The death star was the first destroyer built. They would've destroyed more planets but they couldn't because Luke blew it up. And I don't know much about the second thing, but I assume that imperials did it too.

#84 to #83 - Greevon (12/31/2015) [-]

IDK, I prefer to think the Empire still had some level of conscience when it got down to the level of soldiers and low rank officers and therefore would not have been killing unarmed civilians like the Order is doing. I mean, keep in mind they spawn from the republic and were originally the good guys protecting the same people that the First Order is now killing and the only reason the civil war is happening right now is because the leadership of one side dislikes the leadership of the other.

#85 to #84 - WATCHAGUNADOBOUTIT (12/31/2015) [-]

I haven't read too much into the lore I'm just speaking from what I know about the movies. The director might touch on this in later episodes though.

#86 to #85 - Greevon (12/31/2015) [-]

Yeah, let's hope they do. I was originally psyched that one of the main characters was a storm trooper, but then he turns out to be someone who has no problem killing dozens of men who he used to work alongside. WTF? He should at least be somewhat hesitant.

#88 to #86 - WATCHAGUNADOBOUTIT (12/31/2015) [-]

Yeah I don't think this director has a lot of care for character development. You're right, there should be at least some hesitation.

#116 to #81 - anon (12/31/2015) [-]

Actually that's what I dislike about writing these days. "We blew up one planet last time... we need to blow up 5 this time so the audience cares more!" That's not how it works. They clearly set up the moment by forcing Leia her own planet blow up. We care at least somewhat on an emotional level. This time? We watch 5 nameless planets blow up with no information on them or reason whatsoever to give 2 ***** that they blew up. There are no known characters on them, nothing.

#52 - yunoknow (12/31/2015) [-]

I was expecting a good character walking into the theater, not a ******* Sasuke with no jutsu.

#106 to #52 - rumpledforeskin (12/31/2015) [-]

best Kylo Ren description I've read yet

#113 - arott (12/31/2015) [-]

ok so here's my theory. Spoiler alert. Kind of.

So the current, most plausible theory is that General Snoke is Darth Plagueis (no clue how to spell it.) The master of Palpatine/Darth Sidious who Palpatine killed right before the opera in Ep3. Darth Plagueis had the ability to bring others to life, and possibly even himself. Therefore, likely that Snoke=Plagueis.

My theory is that Kylo is trying to bring Vader back to life through Snoke. That's why he's all like "I NEED THAT" when he sees Rey has Anakin's (also Luke's) lightsaber. He needs it to bring Vader back to life.

Disclaimer: I haven't read anything from the extended universe or anything, it just makes sense a little bit. The angsty teen living up to another's shadow is also just as plausible. Let me know what y'all think.

#101 - shinybuttfinger (12/31/2015) [-]

Kylo Ren should be dead, got hit by chewie's blaser, got cut up by a lightsaber multiple times, and to top it off the base he was on exploded completely and turned into a sun. He shouldn't have been able to survive an explosion like that or have enough time to get off the station, the Millenium Falcon only barely made it out and is the 'fastest' ship. The First Order had no idea of knowing Ren's location and he was unable to get in a ship on time himself, so how?

#117 to #101 - wimwam (12/31/2015) [-]

Yeah this bothered me. The station blows up and voldemort just tells the general to "Bring him to me". Like wtf how is he supposed to find him in the final seconds before the star melts them?

#105 to #101 - rumpledforeskin (12/31/2015) [-]

Plagueis would have been able to keep him alive

#19 - xgolgothax (12/31/2015) [-]

I very much want the fact that he removes his helmet in the first film to only be important so that they can show physical transformation as he aligns even more with the dark side... because he seriously became a lot less menacing after he took that thing off.....

#20 to #19 - anythingoes (12/31/2015) [-]

The point where they are, the only direction they can go is up on that factor.

Unless someone decides to put ribbons on his hair

#58 to #19 - youngneil ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

It did look like he got a pretty gnarly scar at the end. And gnarly face scars are always on evil people.

#72 - anon (12/31/2015) [-]

I like how nobody's even bothering to remember the Good Guys Team's name and just call it the Rebellion.

#62 - ZeGerman ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

What Kylo doesn't know is that when Anakin Skywalker dies, he renounced the dark side.

#118 to #62 - anon (12/31/2015) [-]

Yeah somehow. Luke trained him, not sure how he left that detail out. ******* plot holes

#132 to #118 - ZeGerman ONLINE (01/01/2016) [-]

It's the first movie of a trilogy with a coherent narrative. I'm sure they'll explain it.

#60 - mentosandcrack (12/31/2015) [-]

Kylo Ren as a character has a great concept for it but the casting for the role was poor. Adam Driver does not suit it whatsoever. The second the mask came off the character was ruined. On top of that he looks nothing like the product of Han and Leia

#82 to #60 - Greevon (12/31/2015) [-]

Well, he didn't completely blow it. We'll just have to hang on and see if he pulls another emo-crybaby Anakin. His little tantrum in the control room wasn't that bad, so long as he doesn't get worse. I mean, even Vader had his little pissfits like when he choked one of his own officers.

#131 to #82 - mentosandcrack (01/01/2016) [-]

It wasnt even that which bothered me. I thought that was fine tbh. It was his face and accent. The face in my eyes is way to long to be the product of han and lea and the accent without the voice changer was awful

#49 - wowtransmogdude (12/31/2015) [-]

I actually like Kylo Ren.

#128 - alpako (12/31/2015) [-]

kylo ren will never be as good as Tr8r

#127 - cackrel (12/31/2015) [-]

Am I the only one who thought Rei was a very boring character?
Personally, I found Finn to be way more interesting, why can't Finn be a main char? D:
Why can't he be a jedi?
Common man!

#125 - narluga (12/31/2015) [-]

If Snoke isn't Jar Jar, I'm going to be mad.

#123 - ghostninjaguy ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-]

Kids these days, back in my day when I lost my father I hunted down the man that killed him, I was only 9 years old when I fought the killer. Damn Space Negros

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