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#10 - pedocommando (10/21/2013) [-]
Orly?   
   
I OPENLY HATE THEM.
Orly?

I OPENLY HATE THEM.
User avatar #62 - herecomesjohnny (10/22/2013) [-]
but that's not a shameful confession, just another thumbwhoring post since everyone openly agrees
User avatar #187 to #62 - jesusnipplehairs (10/22/2013) [-]
It kind of is for me, I hate next to no-one.
#146 - superbanned (10/22/2013) [-]
Then there's people that all like, "I openly hate them." Come on, when 			****		 looks down on your luck people will go for anything to make it better. And just because someone thanks God first doesn't mean they wouldn't thank the doctor/surgeon who did the operation. How about you get your head out your atheist ass and realize not all religious people are dicks.
Then there's people that all like, "I openly hate them." Come on, when **** looks down on your luck people will go for anything to make it better. And just because someone thanks God first doesn't mean they wouldn't thank the doctor/surgeon who did the operation. How about you get your head out your atheist ass and realize not all religious people are dicks.
User avatar #181 to #146 - commontroll (10/22/2013) [-]
Don't forget that there's plenty of things that can go wrong, even when the professionals do everything right. You can still get staph infections and such.
#9 - mattkingg **User deleted account** (10/21/2013) [-]
I would thank God for directing/giving me the person who saved my life, while also thanking the person profusley
User avatar #33 to #9 - spikethepony (10/22/2013) [-]
Thanks for saying it, so I don't have
User avatar #72 - lolzordz (10/22/2013) [-]
well, the way it works is that people believe the heavens determine fate. when they thank God, they thank their good fate basically, they obviously give credit to the doctors as well, its just you are too pessimistic to see that
User avatar #82 to #72 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
So if I **** up in surgery and accidentally stick my scalpel into your heart.

was that god guiding my hand too?

I understand that some people believe in god, but I don't like it when they give god credit for something that I had to put a massive amount of effort into accomplishing, because I know that god only gets credit for the good things.

we take the blame for the bad ones.


Its not really even a matter of religion.

its just someone taking credit for all the good things we do, but leaving us with the blame if we **** up, or if the operation was impossible from the start (which would actually be gods fault, i guess?)
User avatar #88 to #82 - lolzordz (10/22/2013) [-]
when you complain that god is someone else who is taking all the credit for what you did, it means you dont understand what God actually is lol gods not a man who lives in the sky and tells us what to do... and when we thank him, he's not just sitting there with shades on being all like "yup, im the best"
User avatar #184 to #88 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
you're right that god isn't man in the sky, but i pretend he is when I have to talk about religion to Christians, because they get pissy when I tell them that he's not real.
User avatar #185 to #184 - lolzordz (10/22/2013) [-]
its funny because real believers wouldnt feel so threatened as many christians do
User avatar #186 to #185 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
"real Christians"

are they like "true Scotsmen"?
User avatar #194 to #186 - lolzordz (10/23/2013) [-]
real believers*.. as in people who actually believe in god without a doubt
User avatar #195 to #194 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
there are as many diffren't types of "real believers" as there are politicians.
User avatar #196 to #195 - lolzordz (10/23/2013) [-]
come on man wtf how can you not understand what i mean?

yes many people believe in different things. but thats not what im talking about. im talking about the strength of your belief, regardless of what it is you believe in.

lets just say i believe homosexuality to be natural... if you tell me no its not, because of bla and bla - but i truly believe, then theres nothing for me to get pissy about because i believe it so much that i dont give a **** what you think.

hence real believers wouldnt feel so threatened.. capichE?
User avatar #197 to #196 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
I understand what you mean perfectly.


It's just that you are wrong.


trying to lump together everyone who thinks like you as "true believers" and everyone else as "not really Christian"

let me tell you a little secret...


everyone does that

it's what moderate Muslim say about the extremists, its what the extremists say about the moderates.

its what Westbro say about everyone, and its why there are over 200 sects of Christianity.

User avatar #198 to #197 - lolzordz (10/23/2013) [-]
what makes you think im christian? im jewish... and jewish culture is basically, believe what you believe in and stay out of everyone else's beliefs. we dont try tell anyone what to do or convert anyone.

islam and chritianity is run on fear of God and such communal pressure, extremists are inevitable.. a true believer, is someone who doesnt try to change others becuase he truly knows he doesnt need
User avatar #199 to #198 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
yeah, because Judaism doesn't have separate sects too, right?

and none of those seperate sects run on fear of god?

that was my point, you can count yourself a member of a religion, but there will always be other members of the same religion who think almost exactly the oposite of what you do.

and they go around talking about "true believers" just as much as you do.
User avatar #200 to #199 - lolzordz (10/23/2013) [-]
if you really knew about judaism, you would know that there is only one main sect and the rest are minority sects who are aware that they are not of the original. none of these sects are extremist and they all get along pretty well. some says zionists are extremist but they arent actually religious, they are more political than anything.

besides, what i meant by true belief has nothing to do with religion at all. I can have true belief of dragons. its truth depending on my strength of belief.
User avatar #211 to #200 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
These minority sects might know that they are minorities, but they still believe that there sects is the right one.

If they didn't, then they wouldn't be a member.


if "true belief" has nothing to do with religion, then why did you bring it up?
User avatar #212 to #211 - lolzordz (10/24/2013) [-]
those sects suit them better, theyre more traditions than sects come to think of it... the biggest sect difference is between sephardies and ashkenazis, you should check it out..

i brought up true belief when you said you like making christians pissy by telling them god doesnt exist. i simply stated that true believers wouldnt care what you think
User avatar #213 to #212 - iamnuff ONLINE (10/25/2013) [-]
actually what i said is that I DON'T like making christians pissy, which is why I pretend that they are right (for the sake of debate)

#160 - mattdoggy (10/22/2013) [-]
>Thank God for having such an excellent surgeon who is so skilled and worked so hard and that everything went ok

#119 - abeam (10/22/2013) [-]
Sounds like you are euphoric, tell me OP, are you enlightened by your own intelligence?
#132 to #119 - sloot (10/22/2013) [-]
^how visiting FJ has made me feel about all athiests
User avatar #110 - noisia (10/22/2013) [-]
Thank You God - Tim Minchin
I'll just leave this here.
User avatar #77 - coolioplasm (10/22/2013) [-]
Gettin' real tired of confession bear
User avatar #78 to #77 - kaboomz (10/22/2013) [-]
you are not the only one

every day theres at least 10 of these
User avatar #1 - quitethedelicacy (10/21/2013) [-]
Inb4 "God shaped men and thus shaped the doctor/surgeon/etc. that saved your life".
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User avatar #11 to #1 - bodyrokr (10/21/2013) [-]
but, there is no god. So how can something exist cause something it didn't affect
User avatar #12 to #11 - bodyrokr (10/21/2013) [-]
**that doesnt exist
User avatar #2 to #1 - schnizel (10/21/2013) [-]
God shaped men and thus shaped the doctor/surgeon/etc. that saved your life
User avatar #75 to #1 - kirkbot ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
god shaped the situation that made you nearly lose your life
User avatar #6 - gmaxx ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
they dont actually..dont be that ignorant
#91 to #6 - yarr (10/22/2013) [-]
"I secretly hate people who thank only God when a doctor / surgeon / etc. saves their loved one's life". You're saying that the people that do this, actually don't do this... Not one place is it mentioned Christians or whatever. There are some individuals that do thank God, and may forget about the doctor. You have no evidence to back up your claim that no one has ever only thanked God.
"I secretly hate people who thank only God when a doctor / surgeon / etc. saves their loved one's life". You're saying that the people that do this, actually don't do this... Not one place is it mentioned Christians or whatever. There are some individuals that do thank God, and may forget about the doctor. You have no evidence to back up your claim that no one has ever only thanked God.
User avatar #163 to #91 - gmaxx ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
I dont say about the part of the people that thank only to God
Please.. they dont do that, i dont really know how to make you understand
Look, a thanks means:
"-thank you god for helping us"
"-thank you doctor for helping us"
-the money they pay for the operation ( it is consedered somehow a "thank you" )
You cant really forget about the doctor.I mean..
In a operation there are doctors and nurses or the people who help (i dont know how they are called). But you cant thank only to the doctor. All team needs appreciation and respect ,and you may do this with the money that you pay, but i have never seen someone who will say:
"OH GOD, YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT SAVED US"... )
That will never actually happen.They may talk to the doctor in private or during the process (if you have cancer, you may thank anyone from taking care of you)
Thats it..
#189 to #163 - yarr (10/22/2013) [-]
The picture, meme or whatever states it hates people that only thank God. He's not hating on the ones that thank both, so why bother complaining about it. You can not be sure that some fanatic Christians believe that it's God's work, and only his, and therefor thank him. And you just generalise what he's saying into all religious people, when the statement is clearly about individuals that are brainwashed. Take the westboro baptist church members as an example. I'm sure they're capable of only praising God for what the doctor's work.
What I'm trying to say is that you can't be sure that no one has ever only thanked God, considering you're religious and the main argument for the existense of God is the lack of proof against it, you shouldn't be so quick on the trigger to claim what you're claiming. I'm pretty sure you don't know everyone on planet earth.


Might as well have a religious debate (unless you don't want to ). I consider myself agnostic / atheist, as I strongly doubt there's a creator, but I can't really deny it. However, how do you like accept one religion as true? I get that the lack of proof may be an argument for that there could be a creator, but how do you figure it's a caring creator like in Christianity? What makes you believe in Christianity and not Islam as an example?
User avatar #7 to #6 - mcassio ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
They do, actually. Stop acting as if you know everything.
User avatar #13 to #7 - tehrealfluttershy (10/21/2013) [-]
Actually they dont. Stop acting like some asshole athiest superior race... My dad's been a doctor for like 25 years. I've asked him about it and people say thank God all the time, but if anyone thanks God they always thank the Doctor an insane amount too.

TLDR: DON'T BE A ASSHOLE ATHEIST! YOU'RE WRONG.
User avatar #14 to #13 - mcassio ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
Sigh... Okay, listen up. I'm only saying this once, and I'm not going to fight with you over it. I am not an atheist. The closest thing you could call me would be catholic. That aside, you pulled probably the biggest mistake you could by using an absolute. You said, "People don't do that." Well, guess, what? There are people are there who live to prove people like you wrong. And, as it happens, people attributing their health and recovery to god is actually quite common. Their argument is "God made the surgeon that fixed me, so god healed me." I have some issues with that statement, but, if you accept the existence of god and his creation of all things, then yeah, I suppose that is true, in a twisted sort of way. However, it is not an excuse for people to be assholes to the person that just saved their life by belittling what they accomplished.
User avatar #17 to #14 - tehrealfluttershy (10/21/2013) [-]
pps, my dad is a legit doctor, orthopedic surgeon, doesn't save lives often, saves joints and suchs a ton though.
User avatar #18 to #17 - mcassio ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
Fair enough
User avatar #20 to #18 - tehrealfluttershy (10/21/2013) [-]
And if you still have doubts, there is plenty of ways I can prove to you if you need it.
User avatar #21 to #20 - mcassio ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
Nah, its fine. Just general advice though, I wouldn't cite stuff like that as a source.
User avatar #22 to #21 - tehrealfluttershy (10/22/2013) [-]
Life experiences? I will always use life experiences as a source. What could be more accurate? Unless I was a doctor myself. and I've seen more than a few people thank my dad and I get told what an amazing surgeon he is all the time (Which is a little confusing cause my dad is a little bit retarded with everything I've seen him do.) But anyways.
User avatar #24 to #22 - mcassio ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
See, I get that, and if it was a real life argument, that would be different, but this is the internet. People will call you a faker and a dumb ass if you cite life experiences.
User avatar #26 to #24 - tehrealfluttershy (10/22/2013) [-]
That may be so, but it sure as hell isn't gonna stop me! hahaha I mean, if they believe me, it helps my argument. if not, well what the hell do I care, this is the internet, chances are most these people I get into arguments are just fat lonely trolls who lack a life (or at least I like to tell myself that.)
User avatar #27 to #26 - mcassio ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
Alright. Well, you have been warned. I'll leave you with my advice and allow you to go on your merry way.
User avatar #28 to #27 - tehrealfluttershy (10/22/2013) [-]
Well sir, it was a pleasure insulting you, debating and finally accepting differences with you. I bid you good day.
#174 to #22 - anon (10/22/2013) [-]
are you ******* kidding me? life experiences dont count for **** , they are extremely personalized and biased. They can be used as supporting evidence, but shouldnever be the sole source for an idea or a conviction
User avatar #16 to #14 - tehrealfluttershy (10/21/2013) [-]
It's also not an excuse for the entire ******* internet to assume all relgious people tell doctors, " **** you, you **** . You did nothing it was all God."

ps, I'm sorry, I get a little angry over this argument.... I've had it far too many times.
User avatar #19 to #16 - mcassio ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
I understand, the internet is quite frustrating. My advice is to ignore it for the most part, but to be careful to see if it has any actual truth behind it.
User avatar #23 to #19 - tehrealfluttershy (10/22/2013) [-]
Ah I do keep an open mind, but seeing as I can not possibly agree with this one... I end up saying something... And normally end up quite nicely with the person I argue with and leave it on good terms.
User avatar #25 to #23 - mcassio ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
Fair enough.
User avatar #56 to #13 - gmaxx ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
Forgive him.. He just cant understand that christians are not like that at all.
We are ******* normal people.. we speak bad words sometimes and we thank to anyone that helped us. I just cant belive why people that are NOT doctors speak like that..
User avatar #15 to #13 - mcassio ONLINE (10/21/2013) [-]
Also, unless you can prove it easily, never site a source from outside the internet. For example, it is the easiest thing in the world to call ******** on your dad being a doctor. I personally don't think he is. He may actually be a doctor. I don't know. But it only harms your argument to say that he is.
User avatar #193 to #13 - tehrealfluttershy (10/23/2013) [-]
WHOA WHOA WHOA GUYS! I don't deserve all these thumbs... Easy, I was a bit of an asshole with my comment. And turns out this other guy is a nice guy! You guys should thumb up mcassio too.
#31 to #7 - anon (10/22/2013) [-]
perhaps you shouldn't act that way.
User avatar #32 to #31 - mcassio ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
If I ever start acting like I know everything, I will take your advice.
#71 to #7 - anon (10/22/2013) [-]
woah, you're just a retard, why dont you just kill yourself?
#120 - comradvlad (10/22/2013) [-]
If someone want to thank god and/or the surgeon thats fine with me... What gets me is that no one blames god (most of the time). My husband was hit by a car thank god the surgeon saved him... Why is it not damn god and his evil doings, im glad that surgeon was able to save him. I honestly don't care if you believe in god or not it's the inconsistent logic that annoys me. Like a hurricane happens and people die... but thank god he let some of us live.. Were else would that fly. Imagine going on a shooting rampage but you let two people live and you are labeled a saint because you allowed two people to survive... ANd people what a miracle!
User avatar #115 - jacencaedus (10/22/2013) [-]
I actually had this explained to me the other day.
While it may not seem like it they are thanking the Doctor/Surgeon/etc. they are, just a bit indirectly, they are thanking God for leading that person into that field, so in a way they are thanking the person as well, though I really think they should directly thank the person as well.
User avatar #118 to #115 - imagnetsux ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
hug him and say "thank god for you". everybody wins.
User avatar #36 - achimp (10/22/2013) [-]
Wow bashing the religious, how new.
User avatar #37 to #36 - buttplugmaster (10/22/2013) [-]
i'm not sure if this really counts as religion bashing. they aren't saying people shouldn't thank god at all, they're just saying god isn't the only one to thank. I've been in the OR a couple times now, and surgery is pretty stressful and doesn't really leave much room for error. Not to mention the stress and hardship during the training. For all that work I think you should actually thank the person who performed the surgery, because even if you believe it was God's will, that surgeon is the physical reason you/your loved one/etc is still alive.
#124 - tommythek (10/22/2013) [-]
My mom was sadly one of those. She nearly died from a complication due to breast cancer treatment. Actually it was my dad who noticed that something was wrong and pointed it out to the doctors in time to save her, but she only talks about how she was saved because of people praying for her. pic related
User avatar #129 to #124 - iwebby (10/22/2013) [-]
pray4urmomma
User avatar #122 - darksideofthebeast (10/22/2013) [-]
They're thanking God for the doctor.
User avatar #109 - tittentei (10/22/2013) [-]
Every time something about religion comes up, FJ just goes on a rant "I'm offended, you're an asshole" like it's supposed to be an argument.
#76 - AnonymousDonor ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
y'all 			******		 is too butthurt   
   
given the caveat "only", i think he's aware why people thank the God, the mysterious universal force that they believe somehow for some reason orchestrated something good in their favor   
   
he's simply pointing out that it's 			******		 up if you don't cheer for the bit players as well   
....granted, i suppose it could be likened to thanking a screwdriver for fixing a loose screw (because how do you think God works his miracles? through people dumbass).... but when that tool is a person they deserve just as much thanks   
   
more to the point, it is surprisingly unChristian of them to completely neglect the doctor's hand in all this...and it's kind of hard to believe that it could happen so often but i know better than to expect better
y'all ****** is too butthurt

given the caveat "only", i think he's aware why people thank the God, the mysterious universal force that they believe somehow for some reason orchestrated something good in their favor

he's simply pointing out that it's ****** up if you don't cheer for the bit players as well
....granted, i suppose it could be likened to thanking a screwdriver for fixing a loose screw (because how do you think God works his miracles? through people dumbass).... but when that tool is a person they deserve just as much thanks

more to the point, it is surprisingly unChristian of them to completely neglect the doctor's hand in all this...and it's kind of hard to believe that it could happen so often but i know better than to expect better
User avatar #54 - chainsawwielder (10/22/2013) [-]
They should be thanking the ******* doctor !
#38 - nuful (10/22/2013) [-]
**nuful rolled a random image posted in comment #132 at Rename anonymous **
if it weren't for the almighty cthulhu the doctor wouldnt be alive.
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