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User avatar #133 - payseht (14 hours ago) [-]
Everyone is gender fluid... you're just being a faggot... nobody is 100% one way or another (some women are sometimes aggressive, some men are sometimes submissive) but you're trying to make it out to be this thing you can just pendulum from black to white and back again instead of admitting you're somewhere on a spectrum and deal with it
User avatar #266 to #133 - WutsAtroll (11 hours ago) [-]
gender fluid means your gender literally changes depending on the day. You're describing personality traits that don't necessarily conform to gender. totally different and now you look like a giant retard
User avatar #279 to #266 - payseht (11 hours ago) [-]
I don't mind looking like a retard if another retarded decided to use a description as a term for something it's not even describing.
Gender fluid is a description. Whoever decided it's a gender is retarded and if wrongly interpreting it makes me look retarded, I couldn't give less ***** ... also, fluid means continuous. The description fits more to a sudden shift between the two, rather than a state of being, so that's two retarded things I misinterpreted.
Ah well
User avatar #292 to #279 - WutsAtroll (10 hours ago) [-]
i'm not going to disagree that it's retarded to think of it as a gender. But it's also important to know what you're talking about when you want to evaluate it. The point is, not everyone is gender fluid going by the logic of the individuals being mocked in this post. And a woman who is aggressive or a submission man is not an example of people who don't belong to a normal gender, but it's someone who may not conform to traditional gender roles.
User avatar #299 to #292 - payseht (10 hours ago) [-]
Yes, and what I was trying to do was point out how stupid the term is by using it as a description rather than a definition (since the definition doesn't make sense if you're using those words)
Genderfluid= gender identity (which is stupid and I wasn't talking about that)
Gender fluid (notice two separate words?)= what everyone is because nobody conforms to absolutely every single gender role, which is what I was trying to point out, but to notice that you'd have to read what I said instead of inferring what you wanted me to mean so you can **** on it
User avatar #251 to #133 - danmegaflakes ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
I have dick and balls
Does that mean i'my somehow female
User avatar #286 to #242 - payseht (11 hours ago) [-]
Obviously
I thought FJ wasn't filled with brain dead cattle that follow the bandwagon of SJW hate and actually acknowledged when something not retarded comes out of their mouth
Ah, well. Continue being extremists fighting extremists. I'll be here listening to both sides and actually trying to think for myself instead of raising the bible whenever someone with blue hair comes along... you pathetic little sheep
User avatar #287 to #286 - bigbrostrider (11 hours ago) [-]
okay.
User avatar #289 to #287 - payseht (10 hours ago) [-]
cool
#181 to #133 - saintnovember (13 hours ago) [-]
There is absolutely no reason to have extra labels. It's all ******** . Boy = has dick, girl = has vagina. Trans = had one, now has the other. That's literally all you need. People need to stop trying to feel special because they have interests that aren't stereotypical of their gender. It's like those girls on Facebook or tumblr, posting **** like "most girls like pop but I don't I like rock". They aren't special and neither are you.
User avatar #186 to #181 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
if you have the time, please answer these two questions:
1. Where did I mention trans people?
2. Where did I imply I'm special and what specifically is it that you think makes me special?

These are serious questions I would love answered because people seem to thumb me down and respond to strawmen, which is of course what feminists do, and you guys really wouldn't want to be associated with those whores, amirite?
User avatar #192 to #186 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
for the record, though I don't know why I'm clarifying something I didn't even say, I think trans people have mental issues, which is fine, but need to seek help in order to cope and better adjust with that mental problem which is not to say it's made up or imaginary; there's something wrong with your brain and you need help; that help isn't cosmetic surgery to mutilate your genitals so you have a dick/vagina shaped vagina/dick

As for labels, they're useful. Gender is personality driven, socially enforced and reinforced, and can help us recognize and understand individuality instead of putting everyone in one rigid camp like with biological sex (which is, with insignificant exceptions, very rigid)
#191 to #186 - saintnovember (13 hours ago) [-]
You didn't, and I never claimed you did. I listed trans because that's a valid thing. I'm not attacking a straw man I'm stating a fact: there is no reason to have extra labels for made up genders.

And me stating "they aren't special and neither are you" was a general statement more directed at everyone who thinks they're special because they have an imaginary gender.

Also, feminists aren't whores. Don't assume people believe everything that's posted on this site because they happen to agree with one thing.

That answer your question?
User avatar #197 to #191 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
The whores part was me assuming the role of a strawman and was said in jest. I try my best to not be in either camp, though I do lean in each depending on the situation.
And I didn't mention made up genders either. There are two and everyone falls somewhere in between, but very near to one end or the other. That's a gradient. Taking time to name every single variation would be the biggest waste of time imaginable... biologically you're a man or a woman, but you as an individual sometimes prefer things from the opposite gender.
I like there being two different terms because I see them as different things and it can help point out each person is different and maybe remove some of the stigma surrounding this whole issue. Like mums not buying them a truck because it's a toy for boys (it's been a few years but I have heard this many times) or dads being disappointed in their sons because they're not into sports or something...
#208 to #197 - saintnovember (13 hours ago) [-]
But "genderfluid" IS a made up gender. Having interests on one side of the spectrum doesn't prevent on people from being on the other.

Example: me. ******* hate sports and things typically thought to be "masculine"

But I don't need an Imaginary label to describe myself. I'm just a guy.

Extra labels are a waste of time and only lead to people worrying about being a label instead of being themselves.
User avatar #216 to #208 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
Wasn't treating "genderfluid" as a separate gender... how the **** is it a separate gender? It's a description! Everyone is gender fluid because nobody conforms to all of the traits that makes up one gender or the other.
Are people seriously treating "genderfluid" as a separate gender? How does that even work..? From what I can tell using the post above, if they wanted a separate label it should be more "gender pendulum" or some ******** like that... which is retarded since it's nothing special. Everyone is like that. I hate sports, too, but that doesn't mean I'm now in a separate category because I don't share one trait from the spectrum's end points...
User avatar #202 to #197 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
oh, and the strawman I was assuming is how feminists describe us...

I said "us" but... I'm obviously an SJW in disguise, judging from those red thumbs
User avatar #152 to #133 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
You know what? I'm pissed off at this community so I'm going to say what I have to say. If nothing else, you ********* have more of my comments to thumb down because you went from one extreme to the other and are now picking camps instead of thinking with your goddamn brain. **** individuality, this is heard mentality, bitches!

Gender= social norm based on sex
Sex= biological, can't be changed

There are such things as tomboys and effeminate men for a reason. They have traits more common with the opposite sex. Those traits are more common because of our inherit biology. Boys tend to be more into action oriented **** while girls tend to be more into nurture oriented **** . This is a gradient. Neither are always into the same thing. Thumbing these comments down basically means you think all men are the same, and all women are the same.
Guess what, FJ. We're ******* not! But those trends or gender norms are there because there's an overwhelming majority leaning towards them. Why? Maybe, I don't ******* know, because men and women aren't the ******* same?!

I had more to say on this but I'm done. Just wasting my time talking to a brick wall. Go back to hating anyone not in your camp, even if they're in either camps because people that can ******* think for themselves realize extremes are wrong, but can have good ideas worth listening.

But of course I'm wrong because I don't fully support your brainwashed mentality.

Yet again, go **** yourselves. Sincerely,

-not an extremist
User avatar #158 to #152 - Sterski (13 hours ago) [-]
tl;dr
User avatar #159 to #158 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
I disagree with the community
Thumb me down and move on

Have a nice day
User avatar #160 to #159 - Sterski (13 hours ago) [-]
I don't really give a **** what anyone wants to be at any given time. My best friend is trans. I just think you need to calm your **** .
User avatar #163 to #160 - payseht (13 hours ago) [-]
Trans has never been brought up in this conversation, which is why I lost my ****
These people are just assuming things because I said something that doesn't easily align with their views, hence I must be an SJW and thumbed me down

I will calm down eventually, but right now I'm really pissed off at these brainless sheep
#275 to #163 - anon (11 hours ago) [-]
>Implying gender changes on a whim
>Claiming it doesn't inherently involve people who a major event in their lives is to change genders

Yeah ok pal, whatever you say.
User avatar #277 to #275 - payseht (11 hours ago) [-]
You put those words in my mouth, so it's more like ok pal, whatever you say
User avatar #141 to #133 - payseht (14 hours ago) [-]
seriously, FJ... seriously?
Are you that butthurt about SJW that you're going to argue with this?

Do you guys know what a horseshoe is? Feminazis are on the other side of you brainless ***** . Go ahead and thumb me down because thinking for yourselves is hard and anything agreeing with an SJW to any extent is treason.

Go **** yourselves. Sincerely,

-not a brainless ********
User avatar #142 to #140 - payseht (14 hours ago) [-]
oh, and **** you, too

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