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#2 - oosulley (01/06/2016) [-]
Im detecting a slight undercurrent in this post...
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#40 to #2 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Nope.









**** off, Carthaginian.
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#3 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
Sorry
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#4 to #3 - erenated (01/06/2016) [-]
**** I forgot to login
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User avatar #12 to #4 - thejusticar (01/06/2016) [-]
you should of just accepted the fact you posted as anon.
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#15 to #12 - erenated (01/06/2016) [-]
You live, you learn. I get what I deserve
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#8 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
>be me
>be columbus
>go to check if theres anything farther west
>longjourney.scroll
>we arrive
>there are natives
>accidentally kill millions of them single handedly
>also i found some fruit
so how was your day, FJ?
>be columbus
>find america
>meet nice natives
>get some fruit
>return home to england
>tell king
and then the ****** sent his army to get more **** from the natives, killing millions. and somehow i got blamed
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#26 to #8 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
he might not have ordered any genocide, but taking home some natives as a present for his king and later using young girls as sort of currency wasn't a good start foreuro-indian relationship either
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User avatar #10 to #8 - megakillerx (01/06/2016) [-]
>Columbus
>England

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User avatar #16 to #10 - fatminion ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
I think anon's talking about Steven Columbus, Cristobál Colón half-retarded cousin. While Colón landed in what today is St. Lucia, Steve Columbus started the first Pabst Blue Ribbon factory in what is now western Georgia.
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#20 to #16 - jolla (01/06/2016) [-]
Were you trying to appear smart by calling him by his Spanish name? The English version is closer to his birth name, and definitely closer to the way he himself wrote his name.
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User avatar #21 to #20 - fatminion ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
it's kind of an old habit I have. Do you know Adventures in Odyssey? It's a Christian radio series I listened to ALL THE TIME when I was growing up and even into my twenties. I still do every now and again when I'm feeling nostalgic. Anyway, there was one episode where a kid travelled back in time to meet Columbus and he was in Spain, and was looking for him, but everyone knew him as Colón (because he sailed for Spain eventually - almost Portugal, but whatever). So I always refer to him as that because it's so vivid in my mind.

inb4 ultra-christian-autismo
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#22 to #21 - jolla (01/06/2016) [-]
I have not heard of it, no. Not from the colonies.

Regarding calling him Colón it isn't that wrong, 'cause he probably spent a good part of his life speaking Spanish, my problem was that it seemed like you came down on anon for calling him Columbus.
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#13 - pipeworks (01/06/2016) [-]
>Its a me, Cristoforo Colombo
>Have crazy idea, sail west to get east
genius.manuscript
>Tell Genoa, get laughed at
>Tell Portugal, get laughed at
>Tell Venice, get laughed at
>Portugal gets asses kicked by newly united Spain
notmyproblem.manuscript
>Tell Spain, King takes me seriously for once
>Get money and boats, sail west
>Find land
allaccordingto_keikaku.captainslog
>wtf is this none of these people are indians, where the **** am I
>Call them indians anyway
>Return to Spain, hailed as hero
>A few generations later Conquistadors slaughter all my friendly indians
dudewtf.manuscript
>everybody blames the genocides on me, what the hell I killed like three people tops
>I died before they even discovered the mainland
>I'm not even Spanish
>idgaf, my name is in the history books forever
>mfw everybody will remember the name of Christopher Colombus until the end of time
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User avatar #6 - civilizedwasteland (01/06/2016) [-]
Apparently Columbus was actually Genghis khan
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#5 - megakillerx (01/06/2016) [-]
Not suprising coming from a TRAITOR!
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#7 to #5 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
and next to it it says that i am
LOYAL
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User avatar #19 - schneidend ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
But, Washington's first move was to use his free speech to tell the British to **** off. Then, he used his free speech to ask the French for help.
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#29 to #19 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
would have appeared cowardly doing it the other way around
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#17 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
Look have guns most people don't care. But I wish people would stop using this ******* argument. The guns then and now are a **** of a lot differnt. We are talking single shot guns that took an ass age to reload. Not the weapons of today. Also the right to bare arms was valid if you were part of a malisha. And America did not defeat the british the british gave up because the war with France was far more important. That and the French supplied the Americans. As the British did with the Canadians.

It was in a sense a cock fight with Britain and France being the competitors and canada and America being the chickens.
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#27 to #17 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
meh, I guess a drunk guy back then could have 'accidentally' shot you same as today
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User avatar #28 to #27 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
at least if he missed you had a solid minute to run away.
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#31 to #28 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
touché
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#39 to #17 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
the right to bare arms basically means your right to "take down" a corrupt government using force
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#33 to #17 - foelkera (01/06/2016) [-]
This is a girandoni air rifle. It's a .46 caliber rifle with a magazine capable of holding up to 20 lead balls, and able to fire those balls in under a minute, with an effective range of ~120 yards. It was created a good decade before the bill of rights was added on to the constitution, yet the founding fathers didn't explicitly say that repeating rifles like this should be excluded. Thomas Jefferson even owned two, which he had sent on the Lewis and Clark expedition.

You are correct with the fact that arms were only available to militias, but let's not forget that militias during that time were considered to be any able bodied men between the ages of 18 and 60 years old - later amendments to the constitution extended this to women and minorities.
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User avatar #34 to #33 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
While the detachable air reservoir was capable of around 30 shots it took nearly 1,500 strokes of a hand pump to fill those reservoirs. Later, a wagon-mounted pump was provided. The reservoirs, made from hammered sheet iron held together with rivets and sealed by brazing, proved very difficult to manufacture using the techniques of the period and were always in short supply.

In addition, the weapon was very delicate and a small break in the reservoir could make it inoperable. Finally, it was very different from any other weapon of the time and any soldier using it needed to be highly trained.
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#35 to #34 - foelkera (01/06/2016) [-]
It's true that the air rifles were fairly difficult to use - how about an earlier repeater from the 1720s which operated with a flintlock action and could fire at about 9 rounds per minute? Though the rate of fire is much lower than the Girandoni, the Puckle Gun was much sturdier and reliable.
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User avatar #36 to #35 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
I could not imagine someone carrying that around given the size of it. If it requires a tripod to keep it steady then surely people would have time to run. Interesting weapon all the same though but once again 9 bullets a minute so that is about 6.6 seconds a shot. To kill two people he would need about 12-13 seconds to shoot those two bullets. Whilst still dangerous no where near the damage of the common handgun now. Hell even big ass 50 cal revolvers are faster.
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#37 to #36 - foelkera (01/06/2016) [-]
It wasn't usually meant to be carried around, especially with the mechanism needing two hands to work - Puckle guns were meant to be mounted on the decks of ships in order to help repel boarders. Though you'd need 6 seconds between each shot, you'd most likely have other crewmen to watch your back. On the other hand, there is a rifle from even earlier (we're talking mid 1600s early) which had a fire rate of about one shot per second. The Kalthoff repeater operated like a lever action rifle, where pushing and pulling the trigger guard would reset the hammer, as well as load a ball and powder into the barrel. Futher development of the weapon allowed it to carry up to 30 rounds in the magazine, and 30 shots worth of powder in the stock. The only drawback was the price, since you needed a specially trained gunsmith to repair it if a part broke. It's fire rate was the best worldwide until around the 19th century when contemporary repeaters were created.
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User avatar #18 to #17 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
Sorry not malisha, a militia
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User avatar #24 to #18 - brobathehutt (01/06/2016) [-]
Malishas, man.
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User avatar #25 to #24 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
cheers
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User avatar #23 to #17 - osetinka (01/06/2016) [-]
also not "bare arms" but "bear arms"
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#38 - thegamegestapo (01/06/2016) [-]
>Freedom of speech is less important than guns
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#41 to #38 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Nobody's arguing for or against that.
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#32 - ogthegreat (01/06/2016) [-]
Crusading can lead to more sex from all of the town whores. Or by making all the women your whores.
 
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