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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] warlords has taught me to never get hyped ever again.
but i'm willing to see how this plays out.
but i'm willing to see how this plays out.
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clonedcommando (08/08/2015) [-] Yeah while there are some promising ideas being thrown around for Legion the same was done for warlords and 90% of those good ideas got cut without them even telling us. I no longer even trust blizzard let alone have faith in them. I'm gonna wait and see if they actually deliver anything of what they are talking about before I buy
And flying is non negotiable it MUST be in the game at launch for lvl 110 characters weather its gotten with gold or an achievement i don't care but none of this "you can fly next patch" "oh wait next patch" "oh wait no flying at all"
And flying is non negotiable it MUST be in the game at launch for lvl 110 characters weather its gotten with gold or an achievement i don't care but none of this "you can fly next patch" "oh wait next patch" "oh wait no flying at all"
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ketoacidosis (08/08/2015) [-] I stopped getting hyped after I played Cata and maxed out my character in a week.
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ketoacidosis (08/08/2015) [-] From cap to cap, which i think was 80-85 for cata? I have a friend right now who is trying to max out a rogue for ***** and giggles. He thinks he can go 1-100 in 1-3 days. He got like level 15 in like 30 minutes from grinding mobs out of the starting zone and pretty much 1 shot everything. The game seems laughable now.
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ketoacidosis (08/08/2015) [-] Been playing on a private vanilla server and it takes like 8 days played time just to hit 60, and that's if you are grinding/questing nonstop. Took me like 12 with professions and pvp.
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myrtille (08/08/2015) [-] Huh, really? I have full heirlooms and it took me like 14 hrs to get my lock to 50, and I didn't even work at leveling the entire time. A lot of it was working on inscription.
But that's with leveling through dungeon finder. I'd skip entire zones within 1 1/2 dungeons.
But that's with leveling through dungeon finder. I'd skip entire zones within 1 1/2 dungeons.
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ketoacidosis (08/08/2015) [-] I watched my friend play a little bit of of the newest expansion. He logged in, pushed a few buttons, got a bunch of gold from it, then joined a random raid and proceeded to get top heals and out dps some of the dpsers as a resto druid. Pretty much just used wrath and tranquility.
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bollenn (08/09/2015) [-]
Ah yes, the latest expansion has been abit dull, but the fact is that there is 4 different difficulties to an instance LFR Normal heroic and mythic, you mate probably did the LFR one where you just queue up and end up with randoms, it's fairly easy and most people don't have gear at all. There's a long way to climb !
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ketoacidosis (08/09/2015) [-] I guess the group he joined already wiped like twice on the boss and he said he was going to make the difference. I cringed when he said it gets easier every wipe, and cringed at most of the changes he mentioned about the game. He did mention the difficulties of the dungeons where you could make it as hard as wildstar, where if you get hit by an aoe you are insta-dead.
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daringdestiny (08/08/2015) [-] I haven't played since right before Mists of Pandaria came out, how much has changed?
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sesshii (08/08/2015) [-]
Agree, the next expansion might be better than the last. Me? Won't play it. Last play was MoP, and i think the game has stopped fitting to my style, i just love the lore, so thats why i still follow wow. Hope you best of luck in your future adventures though
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thechosentroll (08/09/2015) [-] Appropriate choice of gif, given how Lord of The Rings recycles like crazy. And, personally, I'm glad they're going back to a character people actually give a **** .
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thechosentroll (08/09/2015) [-] No, I mean the stories in general. Lord of The Rings lore is basically "That one important guy from ages ago showed up and saved the day again."
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airbornfiftysix (08/09/2015) [-] They're really not... Everything has been building up for the arrival of the legion for quite some time now.
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skeletorexplains [OP]ONLINE (08/08/2015) [-] I'm not even a fanboy and i'm hyped because i like Warcraft for its lore (Wc2 was my fav visually because they didn't go all cartoony)
But in terms of design, this is barely "The same thing" as burning crusade.
>New class
>Removing the PVP structure and making it somewhat worth it now
>New npc models (Including warlock summons)
>new weapon type
>Class "Guild" to work towards a goal.
The only thing that's "The same" is the fact Illidian is there. And all they've shown in the teaser is Guldan just swaggering his way through Illidians Cell and corrupting the crystal turning him into Semi-demon illidian Prior to near..Everything.
The impact of that alone could be amazing. Fighting the Wardens and killing them / w.e extremely early in his timeline.
To be technical, Warlords of Draenor was just wc2/wc3 rebooted into WoW. aaand the idea i Liked but honestly i hear it has its ups n downs. I'm at least hopeful it'll be good. Since..Well other than Nomans sky, Name a game that's coming out this year (That isn't fallout.) That could be dropped on the floor in front of everyone and immediately get hype without warning.
But in terms of design, this is barely "The same thing" as burning crusade.
>New class
>Removing the PVP structure and making it somewhat worth it now
>New npc models (Including warlock summons)
>new weapon type
>Class "Guild" to work towards a goal.
The only thing that's "The same" is the fact Illidian is there. And all they've shown in the teaser is Guldan just swaggering his way through Illidians Cell and corrupting the crystal turning him into Semi-demon illidian Prior to near..Everything.
The impact of that alone could be amazing. Fighting the Wardens and killing them / w.e extremely early in his timeline.
To be technical, Warlords of Draenor was just wc2/wc3 rebooted into WoW. aaand the idea i Liked but honestly i hear it has its ups n downs. I'm at least hopeful it'll be good. Since..Well other than Nomans sky, Name a game that's coming out this year (That isn't fallout.) That could be dropped on the floor in front of everyone and immediately get hype without warning.
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scruffyguy (08/09/2015) [-]
You have to admit, Illidan was completely wasted in BC. He was made into a boss with zero story development. Illidan deserves better than that.
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anon (08/08/2015) [-]
I have not the time, nor the money, nor the internet ever since I moved out of my parents' house.
neat tho
neat tho
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demcupcakes (08/09/2015) [-] like eve online you can spend in game gold to buy in game time.
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demcupcakes (08/09/2015) [-] they are also bought by players and sold in the auction house so you can also buy them for real money and sell for ingame gold.
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namdelliks (08/09/2015) [-] Sounds like bonds from runescape but I'm going to assume WoW had them first.
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hwaraam (08/08/2015) [-] 3G data.
It's the internet of the mobile phone, not wifi.
When we say internet, we usually refer to wifi or the computer's internet, as the 3G is limited and lastes around 2 and a half weeks if used too much, and it refills every month.
Mobile phone thingies buddy
It's the internet of the mobile phone, not wifi.
When we say internet, we usually refer to wifi or the computer's internet, as the 3G is limited and lastes around 2 and a half weeks if used too much, and it refills every month.
Mobile phone thingies buddy
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hubabalu (08/08/2015) [-] **hubabalu used "*roll picture*"**
**hubabalu rolled image** I bought WoW back in WOTLK and have bought every expansion so far, but still I can't stay into the game I always leave for a few months then comeback.Really the only MMO that has got my undivided attention was FF14.But that Demon Hunter class did look fukkin sweet.
**hubabalu rolled image** I bought WoW back in WOTLK and have bought every expansion so far, but still I can't stay into the game I always leave for a few months then comeback.Really the only MMO that has got my undivided attention was FF14.But that Demon Hunter class did look fukkin sweet.
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theswagr (08/09/2015) [-]
they're really milking it for every penny..
i myself have been getting all expansions up until warlords, im so ashamed i didnt see it before, nothing new, a little higher max lvl, ******** and boring endgame..
i feel ashamed, to have fallen for that **** for so long.
and its a mystery to me that people are not realizing this
i myself have been getting all expansions up until warlords, im so ashamed i didnt see it before, nothing new, a little higher max lvl, ******** and boring endgame..
i feel ashamed, to have fallen for that **** for so long.
and its a mystery to me that people are not realizing this
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skeletorexplains [OP]ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] I am sure if it had the graphics of bloodborne it'd be more laggy than your mums tits on step ladder.
Combat-wise...they INVENTED that combat system, which, EVERY MMORPG has more or less copied off. So clearly they've done something right?
Combat-wise...they INVENTED that combat system, which, EVERY MMORPG has more or less copied off. So clearly they've done something right?
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zyvac (08/08/2015) [-] Meh... I don't like the fact that we're getting only 1 wep for the whole xpac and everyone who plays our class will be using the exact same wep.
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] i dont think they would do that to us though. but then again, everyone and their brother
has heirloom gear up the ass
has heirloom gear up the ass
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] ok thats just dumb. i hope we can at least tmog the damn things
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] typical, they will just become outdated legendary weapons like everything else.
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] yea i have to wonder whats gonna happen to thrall if 10 thousand shamans all have his wep. its lore breaking up the ass
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] the only surprising thing is it hasnt been suspected sooner
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] but i wont lie im eager to see the shards of frostmourne questline for my dk.
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iamnotgoodwithname (08/08/2015) [-] i think monks get the staff of shaohoa or whoever the emporer panda was
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myrtille (08/09/2015) [-] There aren't really a handful of choices
I maybe changed weapons like 3 times from 90-100 on each of my characters.
Yeah, they provide a **** ton of new weapons, but each of those have a purpose toward a certain class and spec, and the choices within that are limited to what is actually useful at the time.
I like the idea of having a nice weapon from the beginning that will give me extra goodies throughout my leveling process, and I won't have to go buy a 3k gold weapon from the AH.
I maybe changed weapons like 3 times from 90-100 on each of my characters.
Yeah, they provide a **** ton of new weapons, but each of those have a purpose toward a certain class and spec, and the choices within that are limited to what is actually useful at the time.
I like the idea of having a nice weapon from the beginning that will give me extra goodies throughout my leveling process, and I won't have to go buy a 3k gold weapon from the AH.
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skeletorexplains [OP]ONLINE (08/08/2015) [-] As the others said, There's a few different styles to every weapon for every class.
But i'd honestly like to see you not laugh as i 1v1 you with a pink doomhammer.
But i'd honestly like to see you not laugh as i 1v1 you with a pink doomhammer.
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anon (08/09/2015) [-]
No, no I'm not.
Demonhunter. Another diablo crossover merge.
+ The whole timeline makes no sence. BC was among all of the expansions "the best ever". What is the most iconic boss of World of Warcraft? Hint: It's posted in the content.
Why do they regurgitate this so god damn late. We had monks in between, deathknights. Why didn't they release demonhunters in the time that it ******* mattered? You know during ******* BC when there were demons on the lose everywhere. Now it just looks like another quick money grab.
Blizzard just keeps on doing it. Listenen to this cancerious generation. ***** to hard nerf it please. I don't to understand my class to be able to raid nerf it please. Here you go hitrating removed, expertise removed just because understanding that you need 8% is to ******* hard. Enchanting to hard? here you can now only enchant rings, back, weapons and neck. You don't know how to get back to your corpse because you don't understand where the dungeon is? here you go straight infront of it press W for 2 seconds and you're in.
When will real complaints be ******* heard. People queing wrongly onpurpose because it'll cut their que times. ******* paladins,druids cutting the lines to lfr,dungeon quicker. The retarded call for PVP cattle making PVE content that sometimes crosses over to PVP for a quest or something. Fun man doing a ****** bg were the other side always wins because some uber server is merged to your realm. Might aswell just give up right away when you see stormscale. Oh and ofcourse it'll always be 10 stormscales vs 10 random realms. Nice and fair man, premade groups vs random garbage.
Blizzard needs to focus on regaining their momentum instead of splitting up their content in garbage I'm not interrested in. **** that luck based cancer game called heartstone. **** your moba-rippoff joined to late in this scene eye of the storm, you missed the boat.
TLR its a money grab filler expansion. **** you for hyping it up here in your sad attemt to get people to see it.
Demonhunter. Another diablo crossover merge.
+ The whole timeline makes no sence. BC was among all of the expansions "the best ever". What is the most iconic boss of World of Warcraft? Hint: It's posted in the content.
Why do they regurgitate this so god damn late. We had monks in between, deathknights. Why didn't they release demonhunters in the time that it ******* mattered? You know during ******* BC when there were demons on the lose everywhere. Now it just looks like another quick money grab.
Blizzard just keeps on doing it. Listenen to this cancerious generation. ***** to hard nerf it please. I don't to understand my class to be able to raid nerf it please. Here you go hitrating removed, expertise removed just because understanding that you need 8% is to ******* hard. Enchanting to hard? here you can now only enchant rings, back, weapons and neck. You don't know how to get back to your corpse because you don't understand where the dungeon is? here you go straight infront of it press W for 2 seconds and you're in.
When will real complaints be ******* heard. People queing wrongly onpurpose because it'll cut their que times. ******* paladins,druids cutting the lines to lfr,dungeon quicker. The retarded call for PVP cattle making PVE content that sometimes crosses over to PVP for a quest or something. Fun man doing a ****** bg were the other side always wins because some uber server is merged to your realm. Might aswell just give up right away when you see stormscale. Oh and ofcourse it'll always be 10 stormscales vs 10 random realms. Nice and fair man, premade groups vs random garbage.
Blizzard needs to focus on regaining their momentum instead of splitting up their content in garbage I'm not interrested in. **** that luck based cancer game called heartstone. **** your moba-rippoff joined to late in this scene eye of the storm, you missed the boat.
TLR its a money grab filler expansion. **** you for hyping it up here in your sad attemt to get people to see it.
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yudodat ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] Demon Hunters in this are much different than the Demon Hunters in D3.
Those are opinons, of which I disagree.
In BC we were fighting demons as well as orcs as well as elves as well as demon hunters. They're releasing Demon Hunters now because after we beat Illidan they were sent off on a special mission, locked away, and now they're back. It wouldn't make sense to have them back in BC as they were the enemy.
Just because you can have more stats doesn't mean you need to, but it's an opinion again.
Those are things that need to be fixed, but what can they really do about most of that? Make sure hybrids can't join unless they meet x requirement? They already have 60 minutes queues for DPS as it is. Limiting how people can join would make these longer.
Those are opinions, of which, both Hearthstone and HotS are very popular, so a mass majority disagrees with you.
We've known this expansion was coming for a while, and that it would probably be the last one. If they wanted Moneygrab expansions, they would throw some inbetween this one, or tack more on after this.
tl;dr read it
Those are opinons, of which I disagree.
In BC we were fighting demons as well as orcs as well as elves as well as demon hunters. They're releasing Demon Hunters now because after we beat Illidan they were sent off on a special mission, locked away, and now they're back. It wouldn't make sense to have them back in BC as they were the enemy.
Just because you can have more stats doesn't mean you need to, but it's an opinion again.
Those are things that need to be fixed, but what can they really do about most of that? Make sure hybrids can't join unless they meet x requirement? They already have 60 minutes queues for DPS as it is. Limiting how people can join would make these longer.
Those are opinions, of which, both Hearthstone and HotS are very popular, so a mass majority disagrees with you.
We've known this expansion was coming for a while, and that it would probably be the last one. If they wanted Moneygrab expansions, they would throw some inbetween this one, or tack more on after this.
tl;dr read it
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sptnfouroneseven ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] Illidan is a giiiiiiiant bitch though. He gets his **** kicked in multiple times. Including by the ACTUAL most iconic person in the ENTIRETY of Warcraft, ************* Arthas Menethil: The Lich King.
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PenguinsOfMars (08/09/2015) [-] if by they're moba your referring to dota 2... their original dota actually created the moba genre
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manofparody (08/09/2015) [-] Love it.
"WoW is ded! Hurrdurr"
While still maintaining 3x the active playerbase than any other MMO. WoW is still doing very well for itself, you idiots.
"WoW is ded! Hurrdurr"
While still maintaining 3x the active playerbase than any other MMO. WoW is still doing very well for itself, you idiots.
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manofparody (08/09/2015) [-] Oh yea, 44% of the playerbase..
And yet still top played MMO by a LONG shot. You all can try and **** on the game all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it's still a great game inb4 butthurt "wow is a child's game" ******** . Wildstar was a difficult MMO, and people complained and quit because it was too difficult, then people complain because WoW is too easy. Players are hypocritical dicks that are just looking for a reason to complain, or be on the side that makes them seem superior.
And yet still top played MMO by a LONG shot. You all can try and **** on the game all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it's still a great game inb4 butthurt "wow is a child's game" ******** . Wildstar was a difficult MMO, and people complained and quit because it was too difficult, then people complain because WoW is too easy. Players are hypocritical dicks that are just looking for a reason to complain, or be on the side that makes them seem superior.
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manofparody (08/09/2015) [-] Wildstar was perfectly fine. It was only difficult if you didn't watch the telegraphs, which nobody ******* did for whatever reason. I liked it, because it weeded out all the bad players who get carried.
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yudodat ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] No, considering that only 6 guilds had beaten the 2nd raid 6 months after it came out, I'd say it was too difficult. My guild put a total of almost 12 days towards beating that raid, and we only got to the 4th boss.
You can say git gud all you want, but they had the developers raid it and they couldn't do it after weeks.That's too hard.
You can say git gud all you want, but they had the developers raid it and they couldn't do it after weeks.That's too hard.
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manofparody (08/09/2015) [-] And remember Vanilla/BC WoW? The stupid amount of **** that you had to have for a raid? People glorify Vanilla WoW, and totally forget that Vanilla ******* sucked. 40 man raids? Yea, that took for ******* ever to get together. Or how about Hunter pets that would abandon you if you didn't even log on? Or how about how long actual raids took? It was mostly just rebuffing or waiting for people to get back from being AFK, being 40 people in the same damn raid. PVP was a ******* joke that took less skill than it does now, because they had a fraction of the skills we have now.
I mean, just remember a single raid and remember how ****** it was. In my opinion, WoW is MUCH better. It didn't get easier, it just got more convenient, which is fine by me.
I mean, just remember a single raid and remember how ****** it was. In my opinion, WoW is MUCH better. It didn't get easier, it just got more convenient, which is fine by me.
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manofparody (08/09/2015) [-] I personally loved Wildstar's pvp. That's pretty much all I did was PVP in that game. I miss it a ton and sometimes want to go back because of how fun the PVP was.
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catchphrase (08/09/2015) [-] Honestly this xpac will probably be trash. I hate to say it since I want WoW to survive but at this point they're just beating the game into **** . It's far too easy now and every time a new xpac comes out all the content before it becomes obsolete. Not to mention they don't bother balancing anything unless it is endgame content. Leveling used to be difficult but now you can just buy looms and solo instances if you really feel like it. Also the new class looks like trash. They were so lazy they only made 2 specs for it and it really just looks like a budget rogue badly mixed with a lock. Kinda wish somebody other then blizzard would take over WoW considering it has so much potential. Regardless, after all the subs drop I'll probably just play on some private server in an xpac that blizzard didn't **** up.
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yudodat ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] They probably wouldn't have made any more classes if the major majority of players didn't keep asking for them.
Also, what's the point of them making the 1-90 grind more difficult?
And why should last xpac's content still be relevant during the endgame of this xpac?
None of that makes sense.
Also, what's the point of them making the 1-90 grind more difficult?
And why should last xpac's content still be relevant during the endgame of this xpac?
None of that makes sense.
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catchphrase (08/09/2015) [-] I'm not saying adding a new class is a bad thing. It's just this one looks crap.
and it's not that they need to make it harder, it's that they made it too easy. Also earlier content needs to still be relevant because if it isn't it will slowly kill the game. Player's will leave over time just because they get bored of the game, but no new players will get into it. If you started WoW from scratch now you either buy your way to 90 which is retarded and have no idea what you're doing, or start at level 1 and be surrounded by players that are fully loomed that decimate you and expect you to know exactly what you're doing. Do you know how many times I've been in an instance group where the kick someone because he is just plain new to the game? I don't care if they content from 90-100 is ******* amazing (which it wasn't) , if 1-90 is just a hack job you don't have yourself a very good game. Why would anyone new start and continue to play the game if 90% of the game is just disregarded?
and it's not that they need to make it harder, it's that they made it too easy. Also earlier content needs to still be relevant because if it isn't it will slowly kill the game. Player's will leave over time just because they get bored of the game, but no new players will get into it. If you started WoW from scratch now you either buy your way to 90 which is retarded and have no idea what you're doing, or start at level 1 and be surrounded by players that are fully loomed that decimate you and expect you to know exactly what you're doing. Do you know how many times I've been in an instance group where the kick someone because he is just plain new to the game? I don't care if they content from 90-100 is ******* amazing (which it wasn't) , if 1-90 is just a hack job you don't have yourself a very good game. Why would anyone new start and continue to play the game if 90% of the game is just disregarded?
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yudodat ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] All MMOs are harder to get into as they get more levels. The best way to do it is add new content, stay at the same level. The problem with that? People would miss leveling. MMOs are the hardest game to keep going, because in order to keep it going you have to make changes, which people hate. Would you rather instead of making Legion they spent a whole year remaking the 1-90 experience? As a player, I don't. As a newcomer? sure.
IMO, the best way to continue, is scale everything back to level 60, and scale all content above 60 down to 60. Then you could keep former content relevant, make the leveling experience easier, and make better goddamn content.
But of course, this would piss people off.
IMO, the best way to continue, is scale everything back to level 60, and scale all content above 60 down to 60. Then you could keep former content relevant, make the leveling experience easier, and make better goddamn content.
But of course, this would piss people off.
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catchphrase (08/09/2015) [-] Mhmm, I think that would really be a good idea. A fresh start. sort of However people would cry about being downgraded or some crap
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catchphrase (08/09/2015) [-] At this point I'm just sorta hoping this xpac is good. Still gonna play it of course just really don't want the game to die.1
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yudodat ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] Just to prolong my good memories, I actually want them to just shut it down. Not like those ********* that scream "STOP MILKING IT", but because I remember actually having fun with it. I remember meeting my Guild at level 45 because 4 random dudes needed a tank. I remember the 24 hour 59-60 challenge. I remember Ahn'Qiraj, and Black Temple. I remember fighting through hordes of undead to kill the Lich King. I remember 8 hour raid sessions because we just couldn't beat a boss. I also remember my guild splitting up, me gaining a cynical look at the game, and finally, after 9 years of continuous subscription, leaving my account to rot.
I'll level to 110, just like I did 100. I'll try the raids, the pvp and the dungeons, but none of it will feel like home. Like WoW did.
I want to remember the good things, but I fear that if the game continues, the bad will overwhelm them.
now i'm sad
I'll level to 110, just like I did 100. I'll try the raids, the pvp and the dungeons, but none of it will feel like home. Like WoW did.
I want to remember the good things, but I fear that if the game continues, the bad will overwhelm them.
now i'm sad
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catchphrase (08/09/2015) [-] Have you ever tried a private server? I know there are vanilla ones and probably ones for earlier xpacs. Could be fun if enough people play on them
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feelythefeel (08/09/2015) [-] You think they're pumping out the expansions now because they want to bleed the WoW stone dry before it starts failing commercially?
Naaah.
Naaah.
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skeletorexplains [OP]ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] they've only got 3 expansions left..?
Once they've done those 3, then WoW will be bleeding for expansions (if any)
Once they've done those 3, then WoW will be bleeding for expansions (if any)
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PenguinsOfMars (08/09/2015) [-] i loved bc, i loved wotlk, didn't play cata, didn't like mop, loved wod, hope this next one is good, but it feels like every expansion the game gets a little dumbed down
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skeletorexplains [OP]ONLINE (08/09/2015) [-] It honestly does, I joined...mid Cata? i think and it didn't grasp me very hard, but i hear around Mists they started dumbing the game down for new players.
I liked the idea behind warlords but iunno if they honestly put it together properly. As i said somewhere below i love warcraft for its lore and i havn't been happy with Warcraft in general personally since Wc2. because the art for that was sick.
I liked the idea behind warlords but iunno if they honestly put it together properly. As i said somewhere below i love warcraft for its lore and i havn't been happy with Warcraft in general personally since Wc2. because the art for that was sick.
