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So, this crazy vegan.. I offered to have glycogen dispute their side and statements, and it became them stating "you need to die i win cause i say so"

I offered to have glycogen dispute their side and statements, and it became them stating "you need to die i win cause i say so"

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again, what is YOUR opinion. i dont care about steve o, ifyou want a debate post your reasoning, unless your opinion is so bare and illogical you are afraid.
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There is no necessity to eat animal products.
Therefore why not eat plant foods?
because an all plant diet can be fairly expensive, it wasnt a natural choice until less then two hundred years ago, meat helps build a stronger immune system,
faster reflexes, capacity, and countless other subjects. my girlfriend was avalan, one day she offered me a Elma burger and i told her i would
w accsept only took a bite of mine. she did, since then her health has improved, her skin no longer dries out, she doesnt need it naps a day, her logical
l thinking is far better as well. a lot of people can not maintain a constant plant diet for of reasons. it is a known fact that meat contains afar higher
energy transferring plants, andthey you need less meat and in total less food per meal then meat, and only those who are overly gluttonous about eating need
Fm a lot. I am from east testes, i have eaten dog, i have eaten cat as well, i see absolutely no difference between an animal at all. and before you say why not eat
E humans, there is a fundamental profanity to consuming one offur own as a species. while yes, i agree ANIMALS FEEL PAIN. i follow my personal i
choose my life before any other. i know people say animals dont feel pain, buti can say, ifyou cut an animal it will scream, they will tight life. in essence,
I why would i waste my time foraging for food when i can get a better shellfire, more energy, andthey, a longer survival ratio out of meat then a plant that will spoil
quickly. as a human, we need both plants and animal matter. it is a natural balance we must maintain, arwe lean to far to one side ortho other, to much meat
and you end up in poor health, to much plant you end up . a lot of people do get your afore mentioned illnesses for not being healthy in the first place.
i.., ..... r.:'. i. You got your girlfriend's give up on her ethics android you in causing animal cruelty.
ii Instead ocaust saying, eat more plants and you will feel better.
at a cunt.
you are doing to me, what you sayi diddo her. she asked me to change for her, ilold her only itshe understands where coming from i didnt force her, like
you are trying.
siu.......:. 1 Sounds like you are riddled with guilt.
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an update where apparently im a nazi
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third part
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rest coming soon
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User avatar #102 to #24 - heartlessrobot
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Meat tastes good, that one reason is enough not to go vegan for me.
User avatar #103 to #102 - glycogen
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but will cancer will be
User avatar #104 to #103 - heartlessrobot
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The sun gives you cancer too, does that mean I'm gonna stay inside and not enjoy the outdoors for my entire life? No.
User avatar #105 to #104 - glycogen
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That is a ridulous line of logic. Meat harms your body minutes after it has entered. Inflammation, hardens the arteries and thickens your blood. You then have a piece of decomposing flesh crawling through your intestines for over 48 hours, constipating you and releasing noxious gases.
User avatar #106 to #105 - heartlessrobot
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Humans cannot properly digest most plant starches. You're eating material that clearly is not meant to be eaten. Ever see corn in your ****? That's "food" that could not be digested. The only time you find meat in your feces is if something is drastically wrong with your digestive system. Hell, Wisdom teeth, teeth made to chew plant matter, no longer fit in our mouths. A purely plant diet is only possible because of advanced technology. Naturally, we are not capable of living purely off of plant matter and retaining our levels of activity, both physical and mental.
User avatar #107 to #106 - glycogen
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Yeah I agree. Most starches are unsuitable for human consumption in their raw state.

However fruit is the most easily digestible food on earth, rich in water, fibre and enzymes. It is also the most nutrient dense.

It just so happened that the human specie occupied the tropics for 60 million years, where fruit grew year round and was abundant.

Corn may contain insoluble fibre and only be partially digested. Meat has no fibre and causes disease.

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User avatar #108 to #107 - heartlessrobot
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Everything causes disease. We have technology capable of countering the diseases as they pop up. Human children cannot last with a vegan diet www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371172/French-vegan-couple-face-jail-child-neglect-baby-died-vitamin-deficiency.html
It's the chemicals added to meat that cause disease, not the meat itself. Also, if human species is to survive off of fruit in the tropics as you say, then how has civilization bloomed in arctic environments devoid of most plants yet plentiful in meat, while tropic areas such as Jamaica were underdeveloped until already developed countries developed them?
User avatar #109 to #108 - glycogen
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Man I feel like I am talking to a racist or a religious fanatic. You just WANT to believe that.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ meat causes disease in a major way, it is not subtle.


There is not one single essential vitamin or mineral lacking on a plant based diet.

A vegan diet is far healthier.

Animal products directly cause disease. Many studies are conducted on organic products to make sure it is not the chemicals.
60 percent of deaths in America Annually are diet related. There are not many vegans.

In fact vegans on average are slimmer and less prone to disease.

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#110 to #109 - heartlessrobot
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You know, I feel the same way right now. I've told myself not to respond to troll accounts, but I hoped you'd get tired and go away or something.
gg no re, I'm gonna end this here.
I'm out, peace.
User avatar #112 to #110 - glycogen
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As a heartless robot you should accept hard clinical science.

You need to login to view this link Over 1000 clinical trials implicating animal products and low carb diets in causing cancer, diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis.
User avatar #111 to #110 - glycogen
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I was raised to eat meat, I moved towards a plant based diet out of rationality. Motivated by health and ethics.

I am not a troll account and have 2500 green thumbs on my content.

I have provided clinical science. completely fair.

There are no health benefits of eating meat, only harmful effects. It is like smoking.
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#25 to #24 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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so, how does the logic of "the only way to show people a non violent path is to violently kill them all" make sense. unless you follow an extremist muslim mind set.
User avatar #26 to #25 - glycogen
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You are a murderer and actively harm others.

You do not deserve to live
User avatar #27 to #26 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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i choose that my life is more valuable then fido. im pretty certain if you were stranded in the middle of nowhere, with no choice you would quickly resort to eating meat. and you may not realize it, but murder is the way and life of ALL living things everywhere. trees, animals, herbivores, all things murder to survive. even you do, whether you realize it or not.
User avatar #28 to #27 - glycogen
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the real world.

You go to a supermarket and buy products that directly caused animal cruelty.

Your excuses are pathetic.
User avatar #29 to #28 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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you live in a house built from decimated forests, typing on a computer created using slave labor, after receiving an education built on the blood of countless numbers, in a country freed by the fires of passion, causing brothers and families to slaughter each other. i live with no excuse, i kill animals and eat the meat because i choose to survive, i see no reason to think a creature that did not evolve as my equal, and since i am at the top of the food chain, why should i weaken myself?
User avatar #30 to #29 - glycogen
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So you think that because some bad stuff has happened you should just be an evil cunt?

You do not need meat to survive.

A food chain is part of an ecosystem.

You are a murderer and cause needless suffering.
User avatar #31 to #30 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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so you agree that you do indeed live in a house made from decimated forests, leading to the killing of many ecosystems, and microcomologically, the earth, youre computer was made from slave labor, and you live in a country and your entire life, and the choices you are allowed to have is entirely because of the blood spilled for you and all future generations? Hitler was a vegetarian, by your logic he must have been a pretty good guy killing all those meat eaters.
User avatar #32 to #31 - glycogen
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HItler was not a vegetarian.

You hate yourself.
User avatar #33 to #32 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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Towards the end of his life Adolf Hitler followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he may have consumed meat. By 1938, Hitler's public image as a vegetarian was already being fostered and from at least 1941 he self-identified as a vegetarian. Personal accounts from people who knew Hitler and were familiar with his diet indicate that he did not consume meat as part of his diet during this period. Some modern day analysis has theorized that Hitler's vegetarianism may been due to Richard Wagner's historical theories, or even a psychological reaction to his niece's death rather than a commitment to animal welfare, but these theories are contradicted by reports that he was often distressed by images of animal cruelty and suffering, as well as being an antivivisectionist.





i ******* love myself! **** i can skin a rabbit in less then 2 minutes. so like i said, do you agree, the man who killed so many millions of meat eating murderers was a good guy? yes or no? because your logic, says yes so far
User avatar #34 to #33 - glycogen
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There is no need to eat meat.

Animals die due to your deranged mind.

You are a murderer and cruel.
User avatar #35 to #34 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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again, youre logic dictates that you agree hitler was a good guy for killing so many meat eaters. and im a bad guy just because i see no reason to agree with you.
User avatar #38 to #35 - glycogen
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That was never the case.

many people unknowingly participate in animal cruelty.

You actively hurt animals and brag about causing them pain.

That is what makes you depraved
User avatar #39 to #38 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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i do not torture them, i snap their neck and end it quickly, you speak of torturing people, i end pain as quickly as possible to make sure i survive.
User avatar #40 to #39 - glycogen
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You are disgusting.

This is my last comment.

User avatar #41 to #40 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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then youre logic has dictated, you are abandoning youre position. good luck, and stop being an extremist islamic.
User avatar #36 to #35 - glycogen
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www.naturalnews.com/025163_Hitler_vegetarian_vegetarianism.html

You can keep changing topic.

You are a cruel human who hurts other beings for no reason.

You do not need meat to survive.

User avatar #37 to #36 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

you are changing the subject, yes or no, do you agree the man who killed millions of meat eaters was a good guy? your logic dictates yes.
#42 to #26 - kanedam
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**** you
(didnt even read the comment, but simply deleting comments and blocking users... thre was no reason to do that.)

**** you!
#43 to #42 - glycogen
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There was a reason.
#59 to #43 - Elemental
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How's about not being a cunt for a counter argument. There are monks that believe all living things have a right to life and they embody that pacifism down to every creature, be it the spider or a fly. You know what the difference is? No one hates them or finds them annoying and they don't come off as cunts.

They don't argue with people about the semantics of their lives and they embrace them no matter what. They don't call people nazis or filth for living in their own traditions.
User avatar #60 to #59 - glycogen
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There is a difference between someone who doesn't really know how bad the situation is with animal cruelty and someone who goes out of their way to harm animals.


There is no practical difference between this guy and a Nazi.

The Nazi's said. they are just jews

He is saying they are just animals

Not up to humans to decide that the worth of another being's life. That is an abuse of power and immoral
#61 to #60 - Elemental
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It's also abuse to place an infant on a vegan diet because they need the fats and acids from animals, which if the mother is breast feeding won't have. Babies have died that way, yes it's documented.

I don't see animals as my utter equals. I treat them with respect and I agree with treating them humanely but you know what the difference is? Your dog won't unlock the secrets of the universe through science. I won't see a master painter's life work filling an exhibit if he happened to be a chicken. They are fundamentally not our equals. Yes, they deserve our respect, and sure you could argue we have the power thus it is our responsibility to care for them yada yada spiderman

But making the comparison between a GENOCIDE of our own race and treating another race poorly is rather ignorant and blatantly stupid. Yes, animals have feelings. So did those of the Jewish faith. They also had dreams, families, goals. Things they had spent their entire lives creating. They could feel too and much more than that they could articulate their fears, their hopes and their horrors to us so thoroughly that we can live through their eyes 70 years later.
#44 to #43 - kanedam
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oh sorry... didnt i say **** you clear enough?
**** glycogen

seriously. i got blocked by you without any reason. i didnt even talk to you about that vegan stuff. still you blocked me... best way to spread your message pal.
User avatar #45 to #44 - glycogen
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Are you sure? I can unblock you
#46 to #45 - kanedam
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i dont see a reason to do so...

after i've seen your content, comments and behaviour you would just delete my comments and postings and block me pretty soon again.

its not about your view, its simply about your attitude that i dont like you.
User avatar #47 to #46 - glycogen
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consider yourself unblocked. I am doing something that is necessary. You will understand one day.
#49 to #47 - kanedam
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you are acting like a cunt.

and to be honest, you are what feminazis are to the feminism movement.
you trivialize the message and make people think its stupid to even talk to vegans. they will think they are cunts that cant have an open dialogue, and without dialogue nobody will simply change their way of life because you just said so.

so in the end, if anything changes it will change eventhough you did something, not because of it...
User avatar #51 to #49 - glycogen
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Already had 3 people ask me how to go vegan.

The way i am doing it is getting ideas into peoples heads and not entertaining their pathetic excuses.

On some of my posts people were posting gifs of animals being tortured and cheeseburgers.
#52 to #51 - kanedam
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woohoo... you got hundreds of people annoyed and got 3 asking you aout going vegan.


sorry, you can keep it up... i dont think you will take the advice seriously anyway. but you arent helping your worldview and the spreading of the message.
#53 to #52 - glycogen
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I disagree I think it is a great result.

I have over 100 thousand views on my content. All containing concepts that promote minimising the harm we do to animals.

It is needed on site like this where people think animal cruelty is an acceptable part of life.


#62 to #26 - icanhasaccount
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you are a cunt
#57 - Elemental
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Vegan diets aren't Complete. Vitamins A and B12 you only get from animal products, mainly meat. You can make vitamin A but you need to use like 6x the fat you would normally (Note, the fat here is also essential to your brain's health, and does not add to your waistline)

Vitamin D you can also get from animal products, most of us don't spend enough time outdoors these days.

For Proteins, you get component proteins from veggies and fruits but only meat has whole proteins. Meat is also waay easier to digest and much less is needed for the goal amount of protein.

If being Vegan is so god damn healthy, then why the **** do you need supplements in one form or the other?
User avatar #64 to #57 - glycogen
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Meat is way easier to digest ? is that a joke or are you retarded?

A chunk of flesh that has no fibre, which takes more than 2 days to leave your body, versus a mango that is high in water content and fibre.

#70 to #64 - Elemental
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PROTEINS you little ****. Grains and other sources of vegan protein are harder to digest than even meat, and they aren't even whole proteins.
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User avatar #73 to #70 - glycogen
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So you are retarded. The body cannot utilize whole proteins, it has to break it down into amino acids. Amino acids found in plants are far easier to utilise.

My friend Janette in Australia, cured her cancer and then went on to set a Guinness world record on a vegan diet.

Vegan diets are used to clinically reverse heart disese and diabetes among others.
#76 to #73 - Elemental
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Wow, you sure seem to have a lot of world record holding "friends".
User avatar #78 to #76 - glycogen
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Just 2. But I am friends with a handful of elite athletes, being a cyclist myself.
User avatar #65 to #57 - glycogen
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Go to a supplement store and you will notice that there are barely any vegan products. Why do meat eaters take so many supplements?
#71 to #65 - Elemental
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People have natural deficiencies no matter their diet. The easiest way to remedy this? An animal product that has what you need. That was a self defeating argument.
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#69 to #67 - Elemental
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"Oh look this guy isn't dead or in a hospital bed by being Vegan!"

Dude, I don't give a ****. People do all sorts of crazy amazing **** no matter what they eat. There are olympic gold medalist that just ate mcnuggets all of the olympics. So what? Most of that is how you train and as long as you get your vitamin bases covered you are fine.
User avatar #72 to #69 - glycogen
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Difference is he is 100 percent natural and does not use stimulants. Most athletes rely on a combination of good genetics, hard work and steroids. The low protein vegan diet reduced muscle recovery time, allowing incredible feats of endurance. The best long distance runner in the world is vegan
theseedexperience.com/events/2014-2/speakers/scott-jurek/
#79 to #72 - Elemental
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You just said most athletes rely on steroids. You do know any pro athlete in a top tier competition is getting piss tested right before and after.

InB4 Lance Ballstrong
He wasn't using steroids, he would take out blood then put it back before a race.
User avatar #80 to #79 - glycogen
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Steroids being particular to body building, however there are numerous forms of doping employed in all high level sports, from hgh to modafanil.... literally dozens of performance enhancing drugs.

Anyway bottom line, the vegan diet is healthier and more ethical. So yeah, go vegan if you are rational.
#84 to #80 - Elemental
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You want to talk Ethical? You compare the genocide of millions of human being to eating a ******* hamburger. GO ******* EAT THE BUSINESS END OF A SHOTGUN.
I guarantee there are no animal products in that.
#87 to #84 - glycogen
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I personally know an old man that is a survivor of the holocaust, I met him at the old home my mother volunteers at.

He is comfortable with the comparison, we talked about how during the time the newspapers said the Jewish people were being treated like cattle.

#90 to #87 - Elemental
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The problem with that comparison is you are saying we should treat cattle better, which in this comparison means treat cattle better than jews in Nazis Germany, which, actually cattle were treated more humanely than jews, gypsies and gays. GO **** YOURSELF.
User avatar #92 to #90 - glycogen
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No I am saying that it is wrong to decide the value of someone elses life. What matters is how much it means to them.

Notice how I have been kind enough to give you my time and provide links and clinical science.

You may actually go vegan one day.
#96 to #92 - Elemental
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It is wrong to decide the value of some elses life. But I don't consider cattle people. We are animals, and just like all animals we have the right to kill for food. Stop it with this enlightened ********. The WBC is kind enough to donate time to picket funerals.
And no, I never will be vegan. My body is evolved to eat whatever I can find, and I will continue to eat whatever I please for as long as I live.
User avatar #99 to #96 - glycogen
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That is an arbitrary judgement. A cow has the same right to life that you do. They have feelings and emotional bonds.

You are not evolved to eat meat, meat gives humans heart disease and cancer.

You think like a Nazi.
#113 to #99 - Elemental
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I am not evolved to eat meat? Ok ************ that's dead wrong. Those powerful molars you have called wisdom teeth? Those were there to chew raw meat. You may also have a small bone ridge at the base of your skull like I do. That was there to anker powerful jaw muscles to chew that raw meat. You know why we evolved away from those traits? Because we started cooking our meat. It made it safer to eat and easier to chew and digest. It also allowed us to grow our brains to their current evolutionary size which hey guess what, requires an extremely fatty diet. We are evolved to eat whatever the **** we want.
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User avatar #115 to #113 - glycogen
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The brain is made out of fat, therefore eat fat.

The car is made out of metal, therefore use metal as fuel/

how stupid.

The brain runs on glucose.
User avatar #114 to #113 - glycogen
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LOL if we were evolved we would have claws, sharp teeth, a taste for warm blood soaked flesh, short intestines, the ability to detoxify vitamin a and would be immune to heart disease>

You just a dumb ass who stinks from eating corpses.
#117 to #114 - Elemental
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That's what a dedicated carnivore who eats raw meat looks like. We are not that. Our weapon is our brain and our endurance. That is how we hunt. We walk after animals until they drop dead.

You ignore evidence and ignorantly take one point that we eat meat to mean LOL WE AREN'T DOG FAGGOT.
User avatar #118 to #117 - glycogen
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We eat meat out of desperation and our body activates emergency pathways to metabolise it.

We are not omnivores.

You are unhealthy. Living in denial.

Want more science? just let me know
#83 to #80 - Elemental
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"A person might believe that by being vegan they are making themselves healthier. There are no good data of which I am aware proving that simply being vegan as an isolated behavior improves health," says Michael Applebaum, a physician and president of FitnessMed Inc.

Go **** yourself.
User avatar #85 to #83 - glycogen
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Would you like some data?

www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/58/References_1_-_1160.htm Here is over 1000 clinical trials implicating animal product consumption as a risk factor in cancer, diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis.

Uprooting the leading causes of death.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ
#86 to #85 - Elemental
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Funny, this is the long term effects of that.

www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/38/Massive_Health_Risk.htm
#91 to #89 - Elemental
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Don't eat high fat and ****** food does not mean don't eat meat. Try again.
User avatar #93 to #91 - glycogen
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Meat is high in fat.
#94 to #93 - Elemental
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Compared to celery ya, but there is such thing as lean meat and portion control you dumb ************. Eating right is what you put in your mouth. You don't eat rotten veggies, because that is stupid. Eating ****** greasy food all the time is just as dumb.
User avatar #95 to #94 - glycogen
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Lean meat is high in fat.

Portion control, you mean restricting your appetite? How miserable. I eat 4500-5500 calories a day of high carb plant foods and I am lean as ****.
#97 to #95 - Elemental
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Portion control is portioning how much of what is on your plate. I eat just as many calories. I'm perfectly fit because
1) I burn enough calories
2) Not all my calories are from meat like you seem to think they are?
User avatar #98 to #97 - glycogen
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Just sad.
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User avatar #63 to #57 - glycogen
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100% wrong. There is not one single essentail vitamin or mineral missing on a plant based diet.

There is not one single deficiency that is exclusive to vegans.


Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria found in the lower intestine and soil. In todays environmental condition noone has high b12 levels, in fact 39% of all americans have a B12 deficiency. There has never been a recorded instance of reversing a B12 deficiency with animal products.

Everyone should supplement B12. That is the only vitamin I supplement as a vegan, same goes for my friends in their 60's that ran a marathon a day for 366 days setting a guiness world record, and my friend that rides 6000 kms+ a month on his bike
#66 to #63 - Elemental
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Wiki says

"Ultimately, animals must obtain vitamin B12 directly or indirectly from bacteria, and these bacteria may inhabit a section of the gut which is distal to the section where B12 is absorbed. Thus, herbivorous animals must either obtain B12 from bacteria in their rumens, or (if fermenting plant material in the hindgut) by reingestion of cecotrope feces.

Vitamin B12 is found in most animal derived foods, including fish and shellfish, meat (especially liver), poultry, eggs, milk, and milk products.[2] However, the binding capacity of egg yolks and egg whites is markedly diminished after heat treatment.[68] An NIH Fact Sheet lists a variety of animal food sources of B12.[2]

Besides certain fermented foods,[69][70] there are currently only a few non-animal food sources of biologically active B12 suggested,[citation needed] and none of these have been subjected to human trials."

Since you aren't eating ****, well meat and other animal products are you next best options, and since only 1% of B12 taken orally is absorbed, you need to get as much as you can.
User avatar #68 to #66 - glycogen
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I had levels 450-550 without supplementation, 100% whole food vegan diet.

Now I inject methycobalamin once every 6 weeks and have levels over 1000.

Massive boost to mental clarity and muscle recovery.
#75 to #68 - Elemental
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What does that have to do with your pro veganism? Injecting B12 would be helpful to pretty much everyone, especially that 39% you mentioned
User avatar #77 to #75 - glycogen
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Are you joking? injecting it is how clinical deficincies are reversed.

There has never been a single instance of animal products reversing a B12 deficiency in all of recorded history.

Eating meat for one nutrient in particular is a bad decision considering how harmful it is as a whole.

www.nutritionfacts.org/meat/
#81 to #77 - Elemental
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Again, that doesn't meat you shouldn't eat meat, that only means it doesn't matter what you do, you should get B12 supplementations if you are deficient. That could just mean that individual has a hard time collecting B12 naturally and has a deficiency. Most people don't have that problem.

That's why meat won't fix a deficiency. Same reason diabetics need to inject peninsula, their bodies don't work normally.
#82 to #81 - glycogen
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Type 2 diabetes is clinically reversed on a high-carb low-fat vegan diet.

Intramyocellular lipids coat insulin receptors and cause insulin resistance.

Dietary fat traps sugar in the bloodstream.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktQzM2IA-qU
User avatar #100 to #81 - deficiency
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Yes
User avatar #10 - charagrin
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You're a little stupid aren't you? Do you know what a troll is? Do you need change to call home? Want me to help you find mommy? If you have a license to drive I am going to move to the mountains where roads don't exist
User avatar #12 to #10 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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hey, someone has to take the bullet to try to get this tard removed. and im sitting here smoking a cigarette and thinking, "**** it, ill take the bullet if it means getting this away"
User avatar #16 to #12 - charagrin
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What do you mean "removed"? You do realize trolling is not illegal, right? You aren't doing anything except justifying his behavior and his ability. The fact you are whining about him means he won.
User avatar #17 to #16 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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no, just hoping he gets banned for a bit. and to be honest, he might be a troll, but if they really are this stupid, plus blocking and ip blocking everyone who says anything to him doesnt neccesarily state troll, most trolls expect a *********, a frikkin tard covers there ears and says lalala i cant hear you
User avatar #18 to #17 - charagrin
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Sounds exactly like a troll to me, he is sitting there laughing at you while you sit here and cry powerlessly. He won't get banned, the fact you have been here even longer than me and don't understand that makes you look worse.
User avatar #19 to #18 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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simple, flag all his **** as spam and or harassment, at this point it basically is. the trolls i know dont block and delete every single person who comments they allow flames to run rampant they dont go smokey the bear on their own fuel.
User avatar #20 to #19 - charagrin
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Again, HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING AGAINST THE RULES. YOU ARE if you constantly flag him. It's called flag spam and it is against the rules. Good luck with that.
#48 to #10 - kanedam
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might be.


sadly i know real people with exactly that attitude.
User avatar #23 to #10 - cuntism
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The problem is it isn't obviously a troll, people take this exact stance and attitude when it comes to discussing veganitis.

And a lot of the time, ppl can be serious but as soon as you start defeating their argument they pretend to be a troll
User avatar #101 - sirfapaton
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You're arguing with a troll. Time wasted.
#56 - greendragonking
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while i think a vegetarian diet is an extreme lets face the fact that people can live quite nicely on a low meat diet. and while i don't care a single speck about animal rights i do think that there is a ranking system base on animal intelligent/ usefulness that the higher ranked animals(dog, cat, dolphin, horse) should not be used as a food source.
User avatar #58 to #56 - kiaserzerg [OP]
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i do agree with you for the most part and yes a dog is more useful as a companion, for me i only ate a cat or a dog if i was desperate but my rule is never in a city, and never with a collar, only wild ones. yes vegetarians can live that way now thanks to modernization of keeping goods unspoiled thanks to refrigeration, transportation and agriculture. but we as humans only came this way because of meat. and we still have canines and teeth meant for tearing, though most vegetarian foods these days are genetically bred for abundancy, and size
#21 - fixneat
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well anytime i want to lose some brain cells I'll be sure to visit his content
well anytime i want to lose some brain cells I'll be sure to visit his content
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