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User avatar #1 - jamesten (10/06/2015) [-]
i'm thinking about getting a snek
which is the one that spins upside down to play dead?
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User avatar #56 to #1 - venomousvalentine (10/07/2015) [-]
hognoses do that.
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User avatar #21 to #1 - xgeneration (10/07/2015) [-]
Is it weird that I only find snakes beautiful when they're in the wild, and not as a pet?
Pet snakes creep me the **** out dude.
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User avatar #28 to #21 - iexs (10/07/2015) [-]
Yeah.
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User avatar #52 to #1 - PlagueDoctor (10/07/2015) [-]
Garters or ratsnakes imho. Easy to keep and can be very pretty. Ballpython if uve got lots of room
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User avatar #58 to #1 - caucasianblackbear ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Don't get a hognose for a first snake. A bit more difficult than the ideal novice animal. Go for a corn snake (other coloubrids like milks and kings are cool too) or a ball python.
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User avatar #59 to #1 - WhereMehSammich (10/07/2015) [-]
If you get a hognose get an eastern, not a western hognose. If you're allergic to bee stings don't get a hognose snake at all. If not know that eastern hognoses are rear fanged so if it bites you you won't always get hit with their venom, but if you do it's like a bing sting. Get it treated like you would a bee sting. If you're allergic get an epipen and go to a hospital ASAP.
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#86 to #1 - justtocomment (10/07/2015) [-]
Honestly, get a ball python. They're docile animals and great for a starter snek. They also don't get too big and the live longer than a lot of breeds, so you'll have a long-lasting companion.
They also enjoy body heat, so if you wanna let them chill with you while you game or watch TV they'll climb all over you like a heated rock.
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#81 to #1 - sirfiiddlesticks (10/07/2015) [-]
I have a snek, he's pretty cute
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#90 to #81 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
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User avatar #91 to #90 - keeafer (10/07/2015) [-]
forgot to log in
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User avatar #105 to #81 - goodhomer ONLINE (10/15/2015) [-]
I have two sneks. Both ball pythons. I also have a bearded dragon and four leopard geckos and a chamelon. I think I still have an anole or two but they are seriously hard to keep and die very easily. They are just feeders anyway.

I also have a dog and a bunch of fish.
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#54 to #1 - enlightednatzie ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Better yet! You can create TWO snakes with one single trick!
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#2 to #1 - whatdoyawant [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
a hognose snek
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User avatar #3 to #2 - jamesten (10/06/2015) [-]
thanks
it'll be nice knowing it won't get away
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#4 to #3 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
I've enjoyed having a ball python so far. One of the better $60 I've ever spent. Oh and if you think that your pet snake won't get away you are sorely mistaken. They never stop looking for weaknesses in their cage and if you turn you back for a second they will up and disappear. My ball python moves at like 2ft per minute while you're watching and 9/10th the speed of light when you aren't. She's escaped at least 3 times now, twice for over a week. We actually named her brother Houdini because he got out despite at least 15lbs worth of stuff on his cage. They're just too damn cute though
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#5 to #4 - Tusura (10/06/2015) [-]
It looks like a banana, especially with the sticker. So I googled Banana Snake.

Oh god the horror.
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#7 to #5 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
What the **** ? Why do these exist!?
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#39 to #7 - thebrownbomber (10/07/2015) [-]
A weapon to surpass metal gear
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User avatar #14 to #7 - leifbunny (10/07/2015) [-]
It's art.
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User avatar #8 to #7 - Tusura (10/07/2015) [-]
The easy answer to that is: Photoshop.

Long answer? People are crazy.
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User avatar #37 to #8 - jakemakefunny (10/07/2015) [-]
That's a deceptively short long answer.
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User avatar #13 to #7 - maxismahname (10/07/2015) [-]
This one actually comes from a video about blending things in Photoshop
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#6 to #5 - Tusura (10/06/2015) [-]
Although some of the pictures here are ******* awesome.
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#61 to #6 - superretarded (10/07/2015) [-]
now im imagining a snake wrapped around my dick
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User avatar #107 to #79 - jamesten (10/15/2015) [-]
dolphins masturbate by wrapping eels around their penis
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User avatar #73 to #4 - YllekNayr ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
"Del Plop"

Is that ******* intentional?
That's awesome.
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User avatar #38 to #4 - yuichka (10/07/2015) [-]
are sneks dangerous to keep?

will they bite you and stuff?
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#40 to #38 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Some species are more crotchety than others, and venomous ones are sometimes kept as pets, but very rarely and only then by people experienced in caring for reptiles. Big constrictors are stupid in my opinion to own, as they quickly become too strong to overpower and start to eat better pets as food rabbits, and sometimes even small goats . The species that are typically kept as pets are mostly harmless, especially ball pythons which would be record sized if it reached 6' , who are so named for their primary defense mechanism curling up into a ball and hoping the danger leaves . Any pet can be dangerous if abused or mistreated, though typical pet snakes would barely be able to cause any damage if they did bite. I've been bitten by my snake once over 10 years, and it was because I made the rookie mistake of putting it's mouse in the feeding cage before I went to put the snake in. She hadn't shed in a while when that happens their eyes become hazy and they have greatly decreased eyesight , and with her heat sensing ability and reduced eyesight she saw an object that smelled like a mouse and was roughly mouse sized (my thumb). The bite was barely noticeable and only left four tiny drops of blood on my hand. After biting me she immediately realized that there was a human attached to that thumb and that she had made a grave mistake, after which she promptly let go and curled up into a ball lol.
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User avatar #46 to #40 - yuichka (10/07/2015) [-]
Ah

I won't ever keep a snek because I still like mice and such. I don't want to feed other animas to other animals myself. :c Not for me :c
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#26 to #4 - sesshii (10/07/2015) [-]
Have a Tarantula, she's pretty Houdini herself, but she has never escaped her enclosure. What do you use as an enclosure?
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User avatar #35 to #26 - keatontheghostfox (10/07/2015) [-]
Nope nope nope... Giant spiders getting out of their cage is one thing I don't wanna think about.
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#68 to #35 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
I'm **** scared of small spiders because they can get away and disappear/crawl into my clothes but I don't mind big spiders like tarantulas because they're too big to hide and get inside of my clothes without me noticing. .
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#50 to #35 - sesshii (10/07/2015) [-]
She's a good 9" now :3
She might get 1-2 more inches before she stops growing.
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User avatar #63 to #50 - keatontheghostfox (10/07/2015) [-]
Oh dear god no!
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#32 to #26 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Glass terrarium.
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#49 to #32 - sesshii (10/07/2015) [-]
I use one from Exo-Terra, and they are pretty neat with locks and such.
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#16 to #4 - craneflyhivemind (10/07/2015) [-]
Look into lid locks, mate.
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#34 to #16 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
The entire top of the cage was locked down save for one corner where the lid clamp hadn't quite caught the edge of the terrarium. At least, I'm pretty sure that's how we had it. This happened more than 10 years ago.
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#15 to #4 - masanori (10/07/2015) [-]
Could it be because your enclosure is too small, not stimulating enough, or both?
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#31 to #15 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
For a brief period we kept both ball pythons in the same tank, which I would say was a little cramped, but now that I only have mine the cage is pretty appropriate in size. Though I would like a larger one.
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#41 to #31 - Dember ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
>>#15,

You just need latches, bro. They sell them at most any pet store for glass fish tank type terrariums; and any container with latches on the lid can be made into a terrarium as well. Youtube videos show some super cheap yet aesthetically pleasing methods, zero escape concerns.

I've had ball pythons for years and never had any get loose - which is good, because my huskies would have a snek snack in no time if they did.
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#92 to #41 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
My point wasn't just about keeping it in, but keeping it from wanting to get out in the first place. If it's satisfied with its enclosure it's less likely to try to escape, right?
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User avatar #93 to #92 - Dember ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Nope. It's a pet, and there's nothing "natural" about it living its life in a secure environment where it isn't able to explore, hunt like the predator it is and whatnot.

Can they live perfectly fulfilling, healthy and happy lives as a pet? Absolutely - keeping them as a pet is far less harsh on them than a wild lifestyle and even increases their lifespan significantly.
But they're still animals with free wills of their own and they'll typically be inclined to try to leave the confines of a man-made terrarium; just like how dogs and cats may run off and not come back (or not be able to, if they get hurt, stolen or killed) if allowed to roam freely or kept in an inadequate fence for instance.

Besides, how exactly do you make an enclosure more "satisfying" for a ball python? They want a place to hide, a water bowl, and the right temperature and humidity levels and they're usually content to lie around like limp waterhoses until it's feeding time. Not the most active of creatures.
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#95 to #93 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
Sorry, I didn't mean for that to come out in such a dickish way. I'm not sure why it did.
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User avatar #96 to #95 - Dember ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
It's fine - but okay herp expert, how about you tell me what else one would add to a ball python setup, and what their response would be? They don't burrow... they don't really climb, especially once they mature; when they get active at all it's only because they want to eat - feed them and they go back to being borderline inanimate. Really simple creatures. Why are you asking me anything at all if you feel you know it all already? Not trying to be argumentative - just genuinely curious.
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#97 to #96 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
Less an expert and more like much more informed than the average person. Generally more space and variety of the use of that space increases the satisfaction and sates the need to explore of reptiles-or any relatively small-brained, primitive animal for that matter, especially ambush predators that like to find spots to hide. I ask because I just don't have much experience with pythons specifically, except insanely large ones housed in tubs at a local zoo, which is an unfortunate situation to say the least.
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User avatar #98 to #97 - Dember ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Excessively large enclosures are difficult to provide the steady ambient temperature needed for them to digest their food and survive, and ball pythons in particular can find larger environments stressful and may be even less inclined to eat than they already are. A book or even google could probably tell you why over-sized enclosures aren't a great idea for this species better than I can, I'm just a normal pet owner when it comes to BPs; did my research (and a lot of it) prior to getting them but that's all.
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#99 to #98 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
You could probably solve that issue with a heated hiding rock, or a heat pad underneath an ordinary hiding rock they can retreat to when they're done eating. Then again that might exacerbate the issue of uneven heat distribution. Maybe a sectioned off or secluded feeling area where they would spend most of their time in a larger enclosure with easy access to the rest of the enclosure if they feel like wandering or exploring. Like a corner mostly blocked by a wall of sticks, vegetation, rocks etc.

I don't know that any of that would work. I've captured a lot of wild animals and experimented adding and rearranging things in the enclosure to see what they like. This includes a variety of snakes, frogs, toads, salamanders, among other things. Most of them will rotate the areas they spend most of their time in, and they all have different size and habitat requirements to reach a point where they no longer feel like trying to escape. I found a near frozen salamander that failed to hibernate in time for some reason one winter, brought it in and kept it for years. In the end it grew bigger than that species is commonly supposed to.
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User avatar #100 to #99 - Dember ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Heated basking and hiding rocks are terrible ideas for reptiles in general, but especially ball pythons, who don't know to avoid something that gets too hot -- just look up burns on them and you'll see that most are, in fact, caused by malfunctioning heated hides and rocks - they tend to not warm up evenly, but rather, some areas become significantly hotter than others and it can really **** up your reptiles - especially non-desert dwellers, like the naturally rainforest dwelling ball python.

Any animal you captured in the wild is probably pretty good at surviving in the same kind of environment you already live in - ball pythons are from tropical areas in Africa, so that doesn't apply to them.

Seriously, please just use google or something. I don't really wish to continue this conversation with you. Best of luck with your critters tho.
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#101 to #100 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
I've never used the rocks, but I've used the pads, which, when used properly, are put underneath the terrarium itself and will gradually warm up the substrate above them. You can avoid burns by getting low-powered or adjustable ones, testing it for a few days and checking the temperature it heats the area to before actually using it in on your animal. That's just common sense.
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User avatar #102 to #101 - Dember ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Yes, heating pads under the environment aren't really comparable to basking rocks or heated hides though... if you're as knowledgeable about herps as you say, I'm not sure why you'd even compare them.
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#103 to #102 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
Never used the rocks, assumed they'd function as well as the pads do. My mistake. I probably never used them because I read about the risks some time in the past when I was originally getting into it, developed a preference for the pads, and forgot why.
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User avatar #104 to #103 - Dember ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Yeah I've seen some snakes, especially BPs it seems, who got really messed up - like massive third degree burns over their entire bellies from those things... and it seems like pretty much all of them are prone to it, it's not just one faulty product or anything. A normal rock placed under a heat lamp and tested with a temp gun is the best way to go for basking types - but ball pythons really don't bask anyway, they prefer belly heat.
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#94 to #93 - masanori (10/08/2015) [-]
I kept bearded dragons for several years. Not the same thing but they have similar needs. Their enclosure was about 100% bigger than the minimum recommendation, had multiple hides so they could alternate if they wanted to, multiple sunning and standing rocks, deep enough substrate for them to burrow into, branches for them to climb up onto, and all with enough open space left over for them to run around in. I made use of all of the space including vertical to give them multiple activity options and multiple ways to engage in each activity. They were always content and healthy and never attempted to escape even in a species where nose/facial deformities are common from rubbing against the enclosures looking for weak points and escape routes.

Frankly, your enclosure sounds a little barren if the items you've named are all that are included in it. But hey, what do I know. I just spent the first 18 years of my life aspiring to be a herpetologist and another year training to be one and caring for animals before changing programs.
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#42 to #41 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Oh believe me I'm good on latches now, I've only had a decade to figure it out lol. Thanks for the tip though. The last time she got out was when my 10 year old cousin handled her and forgot to fully secure the lid afterwords. The time before that she got out somehow while my grandma was caring for the pets while we were out of town, and the time before that she got out because I was a dumb ass kid and probably forgot to close the lid fully. It's a good thing my cat is completely perplexed by the snake, the first time she got out we found the snake and the cat in a confused Mexican standoff.
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#43 to #42 - Dember ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
the only time mine got "loose" was during feeding time, when I moved him to a quiet area on the counter to offer him a thawed rat because I didn't have a feeding tub setup yet. I literally looked away to pick up the rat with the tongs, then he was just ******* gone as soon as I turned back around -- panicked and searched almost the entire house before I finally realized he'd only slithered about 2 feet away and hid behind the microwave, because it had a warm. The whole damn time I was worried sick, tearing the place apart, he was snoozing peacefully. : |
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#44 to #43 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
That's how they get you man. They can find cover in very short periods of time if you aren't watching. Do you only feed frozen or do you feed live?
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#47 to #44 - Dember ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
I used to feed frozen-thawed, until both of my snakes, for whatever imperceivable reason, decided they didn't like to eat thawed rats anymore. No uncommon apparently - ball pythons are notoriously picky eaters. So I switched to pre-killed; I humanely euthanize my feeders using a homemade dry ice gas chamber.

I personally don't consider feeding live necessary or ethical; don't mind watching it in the wild but it seems inhumane to do for a pet when there are better, safer alternatives. Even if done "right" (supervised the entire time), accidents can and do happen and your snake can be ****** up or killed and that's just one more reason I avoid it.

Also I owned pet rats for almost 20 years and while feeders are by no means comparable in temperament, I still consider them a living creature that shouldn't undergo needless pain or stress.

When used properly, the chamber method makes them fall asleep peacefully and pass away in about a minute or two; they don't even gasp for air much less panic. Seems like the best way for both the rats and the snakes to me.

my mother calls me a nazi now though because I keep a gas chamber in my closet
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#48 to #47 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
I personally don't feel the same way about live feeding, which is almost irrelevant as my snake wouldn't eat one it didn't kill anyway, hell, it won't even eat a rat picky eater and all that . When I first got her we had no source of frozen mice, and now it is far too late to make the switch. I always feed her two smaller mice as opposed to one bigger one, to reduce the likelihood of her being overpowered. We (I) always watch her while she eats to make sure nothing bad happens, and so far nothing has. We used to feed her both mice at once until she started just killing both, eating the second, and leaving the first until we we tricked her into striking it again by moving it around. We don't do that anymore. Hadn't heard of gassing them though lol.
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User avatar #51 to #48 - Dember ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
You can order frozen rats in bulk super cheap online, there are a lot of good sources for them - it's actually by far the most convenient and cost-effective way to go, providing you are efficient at thawing and heating them well enough to fool the snake into believing it's alive - that's the whole trick, really.

It seems to be universally accepted that one large prey item is far easier on a snake to constrict and consume than two smaller ones, because the squeezing and swallowing process expends so much energy; but to each their own. It's not like it's illegal to feed live, and arguably some will never take to P/K or F/T regardless of what methods are used, so I don't go out of my way to tell people how to feed their reptiles.

You asked so I answered and gave my reasons as to why I feel the way I do, though.
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#55 to #51 - speedosnake ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Oh I was just curious how a fellow ball python handled feeding. I apologize if I came off as critical of your methods, as I had no intention of giving off that impression. I don't disagree with feeding frozen mice, I was only saying it's not something that my snake would tolerate at this point.
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#57 to #55 - Dember ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
>a fellow ball python

no worries it's cool. I must ask, though: have you ever actually tried switching? or are you just assuming?

both of my ball pythons were fed live before I got them. they took to frozen/thawed immediately, and even once they went off feed when offered those, they still take pre-killed very eagerly and have for years.
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User avatar #29 to #4 - missoracle (10/07/2015) [-]
My Californian corn snake hasn't escaped from her viv at all in the two years I've had her. Hell, I even left the window open in her viv once but she didn't bother.
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User avatar #19 to #3 - rollmeanddie (10/07/2015) [-]
They're venomous.
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User avatar #22 to #19 - victorydanceofc (10/07/2015) [-]
You couldn't be more wrong.
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User avatar #36 to #22 - rollmeanddie (10/07/2015) [-]
You and everyone else that threw a fit can suck a hognose diiiiick.

www.lihs.org/files/caresheets/Heterodon.htm
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#24 to #22 - pridefulmatthew ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Actually he is technically correct, all snakes have the venom glands to produce venom, which makes them venomous, but in some breeds, like the constrictors, the venom is re-purposed into making mucus to aid in swallowing.
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User avatar #25 to #24 - victorydanceofc (10/07/2015) [-]
Okay, no. Saliva isn't modified venom, venom is modified saliva, and venom glands are modified salivary glands. Saying all types of snakes are venomous for this reason is like saying all species of mammal are carnivorous because they have teeth.
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#27 to #25 - pridefulmatthew ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
I didn't say that, I said that the venom in the commonly referred to as non-venomous snakes is used to create mucus to aid in swallowing. Not to make saliva completely. The leading research now believes that snakes and a few other species of reptile that were discovered to have venom producing glads are all descended from one single venomous ancestor 200 million years ago. Though some breeds no longer have the ability to produce the venom, or re-purpose it into a mucus they all have the ability to produce it, evolution for certain species just has rendered it obsolete.

Bryan Fry (a leading venom researcher) says, "We even isolated from a rat snake, a snake common in pet stores, a typical cobra-style neurotoxin, one that is as potent as comparative toxins found in close relatives of the cobra."

I suppose I could have been more clear in my statement before, not actually stating they are venomous so much as have the ability to. They still have the venom, they just don't use it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxicofera
qi.com/infocloud/snakes
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User avatar #106 to #3 - goodhomer ONLINE (10/15/2015) [-]
Every snake will try and run away.
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User avatar #72 to #3 - YllekNayr ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
hognose are fairly venomous, keep in mind
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User avatar #74 to #72 - jamesten (10/07/2015) [-]
but they have nothing to actually pierce the skin and put the venom in you
they use it for other stuff like stomach acid
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#87 to #74 - skorchy (10/07/2015) [-]
I'd also like to inform you that when they rollover and play dead they emit a foul and putrid smell to appear even more dead and decaying (deters predators)

Source: I lived in Texas, and so do they.
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User avatar #76 to #74 - YllekNayr ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
I mean they're still suitable for pets, assuming your county allows it, but just a warning.

"it is not likely to cause serious injury to humans, particularly as hognoses are rear-fanged[4] and although they will generally feign a strike they will bite if they feel threatened. In rare cases, humans may experience local swelling and blistering as a result of a bite."
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User avatar #17 - MrFish (10/07/2015) [-]
This lizard is sleeping when suddenly its bed gets picked up by a giant who for all it knows could be looking to eat it. And the little ****** decides to go back to sleep...
I may have just found my spirit animal.
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User avatar #9 - drzix (10/07/2015) [-]
It's as it was foretold in the scrolls....Soon we will see the return of geckosandcheerios, stronger than he ever was before!
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User avatar #10 to #9 - ifightdragons (10/07/2015) [-]
i hope youre right
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User avatar #33 to #9 - kibbleking (10/07/2015) [-]
That faggot ********** like mad.
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User avatar #77 to #33 - sonatadusk (10/07/2015) [-]
the absolute madman
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User avatar #18 - rakogoki (10/07/2015) [-]
imagine that, being a simple lizard mind far removed from the worries and complexities us humans are used to, being able to sleep in a ******* flower, sounds like pure bliss man.
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User avatar #23 - victorydanceofc (10/07/2015) [-]
While cute, this is fake as hell. I know this because I've seen the original image set and it's someone's pet.
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#62 to #23 - hassoutobi (10/07/2015) [-]
Still cute.
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User avatar #20 - tandemwarelephant ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
"if you ain't trying to cop some insurance put a ***** down"
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User avatar #78 to #70 - jesusisagoose (10/07/2015) [-]
care to xplane?
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User avatar #83 to #78 - anotherponyaccount (10/07/2015) [-]
It's a scene from Witcher 3, except it's a vampire rather than a lizard
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User avatar #60 - qnamanmanga (10/07/2015) [-]
Cute, baby raptor.
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User avatar #30 - thurah (10/07/2015) [-]
"it ******* smells like lizard!"
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#53 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
Roses dont smell, most flowers do but roses dont
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User avatar #64 to #53 - defski (10/07/2015) [-]
Mine do. Or do I have flowers that look like roses, and aren't roses at all?
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User avatar #65 to #64 - lotengo (10/07/2015) [-]
ignore anon, roses do smell.
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User avatar #89 to #53 - elpsycongroo (10/07/2015) [-]
you smell
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User avatar #66 to #53 - antiphates (10/07/2015) [-]
ARE YOU TELLING ME IT'S THE LIZARD IN THE ROSES THAT SMELL?
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User avatar #88 - elcreepo (10/07/2015) [-]
Fairies come from flowers
Lizards like to live in flowers
Therefore, lizards are fairies
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User avatar #69 - darksideofthebeast (10/07/2015) [-]
That'd probably feel amazing.
Roses feel like heaven.
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#85 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** So that's where lizards come from...
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#80 - haroldexplains (10/07/2015) [-]
I am the snake in my rose
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User avatar #45 - ihateeverybodytoo (10/07/2015) [-]
looks like a Green Anole.
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User avatar #12 - demandsgayversion (10/07/2015) [-]
Nature can be adorable
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#71 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
Well, Snivy IS a grass Pokemon...
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#11 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
LET IT SLEEP YOU MON... oh nevermind
 
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