Sneeki Breeki
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infraredanus (07/27/2015) [-]
if it were John Cena he would have just been able to walk up in front of the dude.
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anon (07/27/2015) [-]
What they were watching... [spoiler]
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anon (07/28/2015) [-]
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palmsspaghetti (07/28/2015) [-] You don't need the #
Just >> followed by the number without a space between them.
Just >> followed by the number without a space between them.
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infraredanus (07/27/2015) [-]
our men are running from tha battlefield. SHAMFUR DISPRAY
shogun 2 is a great game
shogun 2 is a great game
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skebaba (07/27/2015) [-]
Except shuriken aren't used for offense, but for distraction and hinderance by throwing it into a hand, making the guy probably drop his sword or flinch just enough for you to attack him. Ninja ar en't ******* fighters. They are more like modern intelligence troops.
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cockandballz (07/27/2015) [-]
It's almost as if this was a comic and everything in it was intended to set up a joke almost
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insominus (07/27/2015) [-] ***** , shurikens weren't used exclusively by shinobi, and they can be used to kill, coating them in poison (i.e. smeared in animal or human feces to cause tetanus) or throwing at unarmored body parts.
Not to mention you can tie bombs to shurikens (Edo period ones, others might be too small) to start fires, stick them in the ground to act as caltrops and even create clouds of toxic gas.
Ninjas aren't fighters, BUT the comic clearly depicts an assassination, which they were infamous for.
Not to mention you can tie bombs to shurikens (Edo period ones, others might be too small) to start fires, stick them in the ground to act as caltrops and even create clouds of toxic gas.
Ninjas aren't fighters, BUT the comic clearly depicts an assassination, which they were infamous for.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (07/27/2015) [-]
***** , you dont even use it as a throwable. They were used as traps, coated in poison as siege defense tools. You had defenders throwing them in front of the gate, tight passsage and so on, so they would step on them.
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thefates (07/27/2015) [-] You're thinking of caltrops. Shuriken have always been made for throwing or even closequarters stabbing/slashing if you required a concealed weapon. The name literally translates to "Sword hidden in hand".
In what conceivable way does this translate to being a trap weapon in your head.
In what conceivable way does this translate to being a trap weapon in your head.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (07/28/2015) [-]
Caltrops are balls with spikes. Shuriken are actually even more suited to being traps due to various reasons (ease to manufacture, slim, meaning it would be fairly harder to see) while retaining the ability to be thrown into the ground from above.
Sure caltrops may sound better in trap area, but in reality. they are not. A caltrop rigid enough to puncture a tread of a leather shoe would be easily seen. However a shuriken stuck into ground with only one edge sticking out of ground will have hell of a lot more piercing power, than a caltrop, while being stealthy.
This is why shuriken has four edges, to make sure it lands on the ground point up.
It is like one nail sticking from ground up, as opposed to a ball of pins laying on the ground.
I mean sure, you can also throw it and use it as a stealthy weapon, but there is a small chance you might actually hurt yourself while trying to slit someones throat, because of the fact that whole weapon is made out of edges.
Throwing it at people...
Sure, but there is a good chance that you either miss, or that they have some kind of protective clothing. A blowgun, masked as a flute or one of those long wooden japanese hairpins with poisoned darts would in my opinion be much more suited for
assasination and killing oponents from distance.
It has faster projectile speed, your movements are inconspicious (you can act like an entertainer, then shoot them in the neck while they arent looking) and your shot will be much more accurate.
Sure caltrops may sound better in trap area, but in reality. they are not. A caltrop rigid enough to puncture a tread of a leather shoe would be easily seen. However a shuriken stuck into ground with only one edge sticking out of ground will have hell of a lot more piercing power, than a caltrop, while being stealthy.
This is why shuriken has four edges, to make sure it lands on the ground point up.
It is like one nail sticking from ground up, as opposed to a ball of pins laying on the ground.
I mean sure, you can also throw it and use it as a stealthy weapon, but there is a small chance you might actually hurt yourself while trying to slit someones throat, because of the fact that whole weapon is made out of edges.
Throwing it at people...
Sure, but there is a good chance that you either miss, or that they have some kind of protective clothing. A blowgun, masked as a flute or one of those long wooden japanese hairpins with poisoned darts would in my opinion be much more suited for
assasination and killing oponents from distance.
It has faster projectile speed, your movements are inconspicious (you can act like an entertainer, then shoot them in the neck while they arent looking) and your shot will be much more accurate.
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thefates (07/28/2015) [-] Look that's fine justification but it doesn't stop the fact that it's not historically accurate. Look up either of the two objects and you'll quickly be proven wrong.
For example: A caltrop is NOT a ball of spikes it's simply 3 spikes/blades in a pyramid shape. THIS ensures that the point always sticks up. Throwing shuriken on the ground is not effective for laying a trap. Half of the things wouldn't stick right and would simply topple over.
Your opinion on what an object could be used for doesn't change the fact that it already has an established use. The "Sword hidden in hand" is in no way a trap weapon.
For example: A caltrop is NOT a ball of spikes it's simply 3 spikes/blades in a pyramid shape. THIS ensures that the point always sticks up. Throwing shuriken on the ground is not effective for laying a trap. Half of the things wouldn't stick right and would simply topple over.
Your opinion on what an object could be used for doesn't change the fact that it already has an established use. The "Sword hidden in hand" is in no way a trap weapon.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (07/28/2015) [-] Are you so sure about this?
And yes while they were used for throwing (again, unreliable) They were much more commonly used as traps.
¨they could be embedded in the ground, injuring those who stepped on them (similar to a caltrop or makibishi)¨
Taken from wikipedia.
I am not saying they werent used for throwing, but due to their design, they could be used much better as traps.
And yes while they were used for throwing (again, unreliable) They were much more commonly used as traps.
¨they could be embedded in the ground, injuring those who stepped on them (similar to a caltrop or makibishi)¨
Taken from wikipedia.
I am not saying they werent used for throwing, but due to their design, they could be used much better as traps.
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thefates (07/28/2015) [-] " ***** , you dont even use it as a throwable." Is what you said, so yes, you did say they weren't used for throwing.
By the way using a sentence that says something COULD be used a certain way is not showing that that's how they were predominately used seeing as the first thing the article says is they were a throwing weapon. Either way caltrops are clearly superior to Shuriken as a trap weapon because of their easy preparation. You literally just need to dump them from a bucket and BOOM trap laid.
By the way using a sentence that says something COULD be used a certain way is not showing that that's how they were predominately used seeing as the first thing the article says is they were a throwing weapon. Either way caltrops are clearly superior to Shuriken as a trap weapon because of their easy preparation. You literally just need to dump them from a bucket and BOOM trap laid.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (07/28/2015) [-]
My bad, the phrase was meant to be they COULD be used for throwing.
I mean cmon, just imagine you would try to reach into a pouch full of sharp things that are all edges? Not to mention potentially poisoned?
Small knives could be thrown in mid combat due to the fact they had a way to grip them safely in a split second from a strap, but have you ever tried to open a small bag full of something sharp while running/dodging/fighting and throw it accurately enough on someone who is potentially armored and moving?
Not to mention he potential sees what you are doing with your hand and tries to dodge?
I mean cmon, just imagine you would try to reach into a pouch full of sharp things that are all edges? Not to mention potentially poisoned?
Small knives could be thrown in mid combat due to the fact they had a way to grip them safely in a split second from a strap, but have you ever tried to open a small bag full of something sharp while running/dodging/fighting and throw it accurately enough on someone who is potentially armored and moving?
Not to mention he potential sees what you are doing with your hand and tries to dodge?
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thefates (07/28/2015) [-] That's why they're a stealth weapon. They weren't meant to be used in combat. Of course using them as a trap is possible but you would have to lay each one individually to ensure it was properly embedded in the surface. That's why caltrops are much more commonly used traps.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (07/28/2015) [-]
Caltrops have limited use due to their visibility. A well laid shuriken carpet stuck in soil can look like a patch of grass, while having penetrating ability of a nail stuck in a plank. piramid of spikes is going to be a lot more visible than a knife like trap with its blade facing towards your sight,
I mean yeah sure, I can see your point in the principle of throwing a star shaped ring of blades on someone potentially poisoning them, why risk missing someone with a throwable when you can use a blowgun?
And yeah sure, I agree that while it could make for fairly decent stealthy close range weapon, the risk of hurting yourself is simply too large imo, not to mention the fact that a small kunai is much easier to conceal and use,
Not saying you cant miss using a blowgun, but the possibility is much smaller.
I mean yeah sure, I can see your point in the principle of throwing a star shaped ring of blades on someone potentially poisoning them, why risk missing someone with a throwable when you can use a blowgun?
And yeah sure, I agree that while it could make for fairly decent stealthy close range weapon, the risk of hurting yourself is simply too large imo, not to mention the fact that a small kunai is much easier to conceal and use,
Not saying you cant miss using a blowgun, but the possibility is much smaller.
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insominus (07/30/2015) [-] Listen here, you little ***** .
As much as I agree with thefates, this **** is ******* stupid. Taking two similar items that were created for similar purposes and arguing over which one is better is pleb-tier *********** (Which is why I'm about to do it)
Caltrops were designed for use against camels, ******* camels. You think a soldier riding a camel is gonna be all "hurridy durridy, i better focus only on the ground in front of me in case my camel steps on some ouchy spikes." As a matter fact, shurikens were probably more effective against cavalry too, you ever seen someone get launched off a charging horse because it stops suddenly? (if not, I recommend you do, ****** hilarious).
No clue what you are on about with "shurikens are more stealthy than caltrops", I return to my point once again, they were probably used against mounted units and cavalry typically don't focus on the ground that much (besides large obstacles like rocks and whatnot). They'd be practically worthless against Japanese Infantry (You know what they wore? Geta, it's literally a ******* plank of wood strapped to your foot, supported by two other pieces of wood, if you step on a shuriken, you'd probably have to stop and pry it out of your shoe)
Caltrops weren't designed for stealth, you see Lord Hablesdere's war party coming to raid your keep? Dump all of them caltrops all around your walls. Will they be noticed? Yes. Does it ******* matter? No. While the infantry is gingerly trying to sweep away the caltrops, your archers (Or crossbowmen, I'm not racist) are just pumping them full of arrows. If they charged through them, that **** gets in their boots, throws off their footing and makes them easy targets for a defender with a spear.
All in all, they aren't the same, which is why you shouldn't hold them to the same standard. But I will anyway.
Caltrops win, why? Because they are still used today against tanks and other land-faring military vehicles. They work too.
As much as I agree with thefates, this **** is ******* stupid. Taking two similar items that were created for similar purposes and arguing over which one is better is pleb-tier *********** (Which is why I'm about to do it)
Caltrops were designed for use against camels, ******* camels. You think a soldier riding a camel is gonna be all "hurridy durridy, i better focus only on the ground in front of me in case my camel steps on some ouchy spikes." As a matter fact, shurikens were probably more effective against cavalry too, you ever seen someone get launched off a charging horse because it stops suddenly? (if not, I recommend you do, ****** hilarious).
No clue what you are on about with "shurikens are more stealthy than caltrops", I return to my point once again, they were probably used against mounted units and cavalry typically don't focus on the ground that much (besides large obstacles like rocks and whatnot). They'd be practically worthless against Japanese Infantry (You know what they wore? Geta, it's literally a ******* plank of wood strapped to your foot, supported by two other pieces of wood, if you step on a shuriken, you'd probably have to stop and pry it out of your shoe)
Caltrops weren't designed for stealth, you see Lord Hablesdere's war party coming to raid your keep? Dump all of them caltrops all around your walls. Will they be noticed? Yes. Does it ******* matter? No. While the infantry is gingerly trying to sweep away the caltrops, your archers (Or crossbowmen, I'm not racist) are just pumping them full of arrows. If they charged through them, that **** gets in their boots, throws off their footing and makes them easy targets for a defender with a spear.
All in all, they aren't the same, which is why you shouldn't hold them to the same standard. But I will anyway.
Caltrops win, why? Because they are still used today against tanks and other land-faring military vehicles. They work too.
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kthedawncomes (07/27/2015) [-] **kthedawncomes used "*roll picture*"**
**kthedawncomes rolled image**good job son. two birds with one stone. that'll teach them to steal my ramen.
**kthedawncomes rolled image**good job son. two birds with one stone. that'll teach them to steal my ramen.
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classlessfaggot (07/27/2015) [-]
wow, that is-wow.
and on homestuck, here's a message for everyone:
DON'T READ HOMESTUCK. YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE.
and on homestuck, here's a message for everyone:
DON'T READ HOMESTUCK. YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE.
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anon (07/28/2015) [-]
Can someone do an edit of when they freak out with the caption 'Assassination Status: Sick' ?
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danzaiver (07/28/2015) [-] I especially love how the ninjas were in blue, like ninjas actually would be.
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danzaiver (07/28/2015) [-] Why ninjas would wear blue? because the night is not compeate blackness. especially with some torchlight to help illuminate the place. It's the tried and true meathod.
If you mean why I enjoy the fact they're so historically accurate, It's because I just like seeing someone create content without the myths and misconseptions people have sometimes.
If you mean why I enjoy the fact they're so historically accurate, It's because I just like seeing someone create content without the myths and misconseptions people have sometimes.
