Smaug's true face
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#22
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mangostormlegend (12/02/2015) [-] Turning Cumberbatch into a dragon was the easy part.
Turning him back into a human at the end of the day...that's where most of the budget went
Turning him back into a human at the end of the day...that's where most of the budget went
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blueboysixnine (12/02/2015) [-] I think theres a real element of imagination to it. You have to go full other-kin and feel like youre actually the dragon. The over the top mouth movements look stupid as **** on a human mouth, but they work perfectly fine when translated to the snout of a dragon in CG
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sienimies (12/01/2015) [-] Say what you want about Barbababa Cucumberbatch but jesus christ acting a dragon takes serious skill
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flamingpie ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-] The fact that you believe that theres a voice modulator is proof enough of his talent.
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achphoenix (12/01/2015) [-] I think its amazing just being able to do that without laughing. Then again i have no acting skills
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greatgatsby (12/02/2015) [-] It was announced when Marvel blew their load and announced every one of their movies until 2020
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comicexplain (12/02/2015) [-] Now I want someone to just cut him out here, and paste him into the actual movie. Pretend there's no difference, and it would be the best.
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creamymcgee ONLINE (12/01/2015) [-] He looks so ******* silly when the camera isn't focused on his face.
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theoldfritz (12/02/2015) [-] In the original series they would have used a real dragon, or atleast a costume
******* CGI ruined the Hobbit
******* CGI ruined the Hobbit
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comicexplain (12/02/2015) [-] In some scenes, maybe, but they got the dragon bit on point.
It's the subtle stuff CGI is useful for - Expressions and the like! If movie makers were wise, they'd go back to using props and whatnot, with CGI acting as an assistance tool.
It's the subtle stuff CGI is useful for - Expressions and the like! If movie makers were wise, they'd go back to using props and whatnot, with CGI acting as an assistance tool.
#7
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williamsonk ONLINE (12/01/2015) [-] Personally, I liked Richard Boone's performance better (for the Rankin/Bass animated version in the 70's). He was a tail gunner in World War II, so he was a bad-ass in real life.
While I like Cumberbatch, I thought his performance was typical and lackluster.
While I like Cumberbatch, I thought his performance was typical and lackluster.
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vilememory (12/02/2015) [-] Exactly! Even the scene was better, here skip to 54:40 that is when Smaug starts talking. ffilms.org/the-hobbit-1977/ ******* love this scene.
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williamsonk ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-]
That's just the point. Smaug would sound bored because a) he just woke up from a decades long nap and b) Bilbo would pose no threat to him. His ire is only incited when Bilbo mistakenly gets cocky.
With Cumberbatch, Smaug just seems to launch into a tirade as though he'd been rehearsing it and had nothing better to do than waste the effort on a petty thief. I could almost imagine Smaug twirling an imaginary mustache and he had even less facial hair than the old Smaug.
I'm not saying Cumberbatch is a bad actor, but the new Smaug did seem rather typically written to me.
With Cumberbatch, Smaug just seems to launch into a tirade as though he'd been rehearsing it and had nothing better to do than waste the effort on a petty thief. I could almost imagine Smaug twirling an imaginary mustache and he had even less facial hair than the old Smaug.
I'm not saying Cumberbatch is a bad actor, but the new Smaug did seem rather typically written to me.
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theblackhorntail (12/02/2015) [-] I think they had to up the dark factor in the live-action. They had to make Smaug as terrifying as possible hence his thundering voice. The animated one is more true to the books I think which is why Smaug doesn't sound nearly as dangerous as in the movies.
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williamsonk ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-]
See the comment below for details "bad voiceacting" MY ass
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mondprinzessin ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-] I remember watching this when I was maybe 7-8 years old, and just sitting absolutely still, cause I didn't want to get spotted..
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williamsonk ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-]
I was just sharing my thoughts on the matter. No need to be a jerk about it.
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aexhaustedheadcase (12/02/2015) [-]
sure hes a good actor
but does he have to be so smaug about it
but does he have to be so smaug about it
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cptamericanpsycho (12/06/2015) [-]
I get the idea he binged on cigars and whiskey to get all that gravel in his voice
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ellojello (12/02/2015) [-]
At the end of the day, I wonder how much his facial/body movements really mattered to the CGI crew. I mean, really, there is so much extra to add and humans look (not surprisingly) almost completely unlike dragons. I got doing motion capture for, say, making the Iron Man suit and such; that's actually humanoid in shape and movement.
Anyone with actual experience know anything about this? How much help is human mocap for making ******* dragon?
Anyone with actual experience know anything about this? How much help is human mocap for making ******* dragon?
