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#1 - triggerlitch (09/24/2015) [-]
Crowder is an asshole however assholes going after assholes is never a bad thing
User avatar #81 to #1 - lgninjaleetful (09/24/2015) [-]
i dont think he was that much of a dick here, i mean **** hes just fighting fire with fire.
User avatar #58 to #1 - infinitereaper (09/24/2015) [-]
Were you triggered faggot?
User avatar #55 to #1 - aaronjamesfortson (09/24/2015) [-]
an asshole yes but an asshole with good points
#6 to #1 - limberlarry (09/24/2015) [-]
The problem for me is that in this situation he's going into their thing and being a dick. Its not a case of feminist crazies making asses of themselves in public, he's approached them and acted like an obnoxious dick.
User avatar #145 to #6 - snowoficer (09/24/2015) [-]
He was really polite though, I mean he even left when asked to.
User avatar #143 to #6 - aaronsalsa ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-]
Its more like hes combatting crazy with crazy, and you can't deny that he was fairly respectful at first

The absolute WORST part was when I saw the Saga comic for sale by that hat wearing Femenazi, just because it has a "realistic" (Pretty true statement for the most part) representation of women in relationships, and was illustrated by Fiona Staples, who is super talented it really pissed me off. THAT was the point in which I didn't care what he did at the convention, I just wanted it burned to the ground
User avatar #82 to #6 - mion (09/24/2015) [-]
To be honest, I didn't feel like he acted all dickey and douchbaggy.
In all honesty, I do feel like he was quite polite and that he did ask his questions as politely as possible and he also did have a point.
Seriously, how are men in a movie counted as a trigger warning, a menstruating Jesus, however, is not?
User avatar #26 to #6 - captainprincess (09/24/2015) [-]
Which they've done before so they deserve it
User avatar #38 to #26 - thewowpimp ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-]
"They did it first!" isn't a good argument, dude.
#130 to #38 - proughboy (09/24/2015) [-]
"They did it first" isn't a mature argument, but maturity does not work with these types of radical feminists. Immaturity is the only way to call out the stupidity and downright hatred of that movement. Guys like you and I aren't about to go to one of these feminist get together things, but I'm not gonna complain when someone else does it and does a pretty good job at it. He behaved himself better than I could have ever dreamed to do, and I consider myself a pretty tolerant guy. Yes, when they acted up so did he, but like I said before, you can't use maturity with these people It goes without saying, but I'm not referring to the feminist movement as a whole, just these ridiculous radicals
User avatar #39 to #38 - captainprincess (09/24/2015) [-]
no ofcourse not
But them doing it first does kill my sympathy when it comes back around

so ultimately, idc if it's a ****** argument
they did it first

It's not like anything significant is happening
There's no violence or even incitement for any, and even one asshole is incapable of socially "damaging" or ostracizing an entire group

So yeah
**** 'em
they deserve it
User avatar #122 to #39 - Nullifier (09/24/2015) [-]
Unless it was literally those exact people doing it, it's not exactly fair to say this.

No individual group of SJWs speaks for feminism as a whole, no matter how easy it would be to make fun of them if it were true.
User avatar #125 to #122 - captainprincess (09/24/2015) [-]
They do speak for the whole though
Seeing as they all seem to say the same **** , and dissent is prettymuch not allowed in the banner's ranks, they kind of have to say the same **** by what passes for feminist law

ofcourse individuals vary but that's the thing about feminism, it seems
They prettymuch eliminate individualism and stress groupthink
User avatar #127 to #125 - Nullifier (09/24/2015) [-]
I mean, I'm sympathetic to where you're coming from, I guess, but please do acknowledge how ridiculous it is to use this "they" stuff to try to group up everyone like that. You're saying that these specific people deserve something annoying/bad happening to them because people who think similarly to them often do annoying/bad things to other people.

Removing individualism and stressing the mob mentality/groupthink stuff isn't good, but neither is putting those words toward them. I think you'll find that a lot of the things denoted as ******** SJW stuff have some merit, and only the real crazies are out here doing this kind of **** .
User avatar #131 to #127 - captainprincess (09/24/2015) [-]
Well I only really use 'they' because the phrase 'everyone Ive seen who is identifiable as being within this established group overall' is long-winded

I'm saying that these specific people are easily identified as being a aprt of a group which demonstrably eencourages mental and ideological hegemony and aggressively attacks and eliminates any form of diversity therein, their claims for advocation being limited to appearance, and what they deserve is the same unpleasant treatment that their group imposes upon others

So yes they deserve something annoying happening to them, for being clearly identifiable as being involved with a group which is, at it's core, consistently annoying

thus I'm not entirely fussed about being better than them, because I know that I already am, by far, and that occasionally stooping to their level will not be significant enough
bad is a bit vague and I don't like what it could be used to imply with broad thinking
User avatar #135 to #131 - Nullifier (09/24/2015) [-]
What group is that? Feminism?

Feminism is fine. It's great, even.

What some of the people in this video were doing just wasn't what most people would consider actual feminism. But that's the issue when you have a group/organization with no formal leadership - people are free to claim the label and act however they want under it.

I don't think feminism is consistently annoying. I think SJWs are, of course, for their tendencies to abandon logic.

However, this was, intentionally at least, a feminist gathering. I don't think it's fair to lump everyone here into that group of annoying people, and regardless of that, I don't think stooping to their level or being willing to abandon reason in favor of some petty little "ha! i know you didn't learn anything from being annoyed, but i like seeing you uncomfortable!" is mature or rational.

Declaring yourself to be better than people is edgy and immature. I'm glad I grew out of that phase that funnyjunk seems stuck in.
User avatar #136 to #135 - captainprincess (09/24/2015) [-]
I stand against the claim that "it isn't real feminism" because, for one, there is no crieteria
Nothing codified and no list of criteria, or requirements for entry

At this point if something is declared to be feminist, there is nothing to rule out it being feminist
But then there is also the problem that, as a statement, it doesn't help
whatsoever

They all declare themselves feminist
They operate under feminist banners and feminist leaders and figureheads
They understand themselves to be known as feminist, and everyone understands them to be known as feminist

At this point they have effectively re-defined feminism by sheer force of presence

Saying they aren't is no longer viable, as it changes nothing about what they do and what they say and the name they give themselves
It's useless
User avatar #160 to #136 - Nullifier (09/25/2015) [-]
Of course, I don't agree with the no-true-scotsman defense for it either.

I'm just saying I hope you don't take a currently-popular sect of feminism as a viable reason to declare all who operate under the feminist banner equally ****** .
User avatar #161 to #160 - captainprincess (09/25/2015) [-]
But from what I've seen, the "popular sect" is all that there is under the banner
Like it's not JUST the true sctosman problem but

It's almost like someone insisting there are real scotsmen just over there where you can't see anybody

But they're there
honest
User avatar #163 to #161 - Nullifier (09/25/2015) [-]
Well, yes, but I think that can be chalked up to the nature of these SJWs. They're attention-whores. They soak up all the media attention.

Look at /r/TwoXChromosomes to see very legitimate discussions of very legitimate issues, for example. Or /r/MensRights for the same thing in a different sphere. There are also circlejerky disgusting cesspools of society in /r/RedPill and /r/radfems, and /r/feminism has ****** mods.

A good feminist doesn't need the media focused on him/her to make a difference in the world.
User avatar #164 to #163 - captainprincess (09/25/2015) [-]
I mean
Sure, but
I don't know if it's possible to be such an attention hog that you straight up make the others under the same name completely invisible

Atleast not without a deliberate effort
And to be honest I wouldn't put it past them, silencing dissent is one of their obvious goals

I don't go to reddit honestly
sort of a hipsterish principle tbh that I didn't want to be a 'redditor' or anything close

All in all I just think that
Feminism has been re-branded, as an absolute
And any "oldguard" as it were should abanbdon the name and pursue their agenda under a better suited name
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