>wanting western hentai
i dont want to sound like a weeb but western hentai ******* sucks

my dick doesn't seem to care

you just haven't found the right western porn, son

Maybe they like dignity.

Yes because having thousands of fans having support on patron and people willing to pay for your commission and people praising you is such a dishonor.

drawing tiddies doesnt take away dignity you superfluous walnut

That dignity isn't gonna stop them from rotting in a grave and being forgotten one day....

Ow, **** , cut my hand.

******** is part of our biology too, it would still be undignified if you **** yourself in public.

One of the definitions of dignity is the pride in yourself that you have. Sure, some people would say that drawing porn is undignified, but as long as the artist maintains respect for themselves, it's fine. Matters such as these are hardly worth even arguing over because it's not something with a concrete definition, like murder, but something that has a personal meaning, very much like disrespectful or offensive acts.

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I've already addressed the subjective argument.

If I don't find ******** on a corpse offense, can I call it dignified? Does ******** on a corpse match up with the societal understanding of what dignified is?

It's simple, if you think drawing porn is dignified then you must also find drawing scat dignified. If theres a difference between the two I'd love to hear it.

And if it turns out you do find scat dignified, well, opinions are like assholes.

Yes to your first question for the simple fact that dignity is subjective. If you can hold on to your dignity while performing that act, that's just your way of life.

No to your second question, because the majority would see that act, personally, as undignified, as per their own brand of thinking. That does not change the fact that it is still a word with pliable application.

There is a difference between the two and, once again, like this entire thing, it is because of the individual. I don't think drawing general acts of porn is undignified because the acts being performed are acceptable to me. Scat is not for the reason that I, as an individual, do not approve of the acts, hence why they are undignified to me. If I approved of scat, it would be. But I don't.

It's like saying you disapprove of sex before marriage, but think oral and mutual masturbation is ok. For some, those acts count as sex, but because you don't, it has no conflict with your ideals.

Of course it's a given that something being dignified is subjective, I mentioned as much in the link I gave you. Most things are subjective.

Poverty is also subjective. Yet is generally understood by the society we live in that the homeless are poor. That's why we're talking about the societal definition of dignity, and drawing cartoon porn isn't considered dignified in the society we live in, neither is regular porn.

Well, from the start I was not arguing for what society thinks is dignified at all, since what is common is not what is best and matters such as these are easily thrown aside as negative since society (the U.S. at least) is sexually private and a tad bit uptight, but that such things are not set in stone since it's a personal belief that determines that. Which leads me to the question, what exactly is at odds here? We both seem to agree on how this would be commonly labeled by society and both agree that it's subjective, so that would hardly matter on a personal scale. Where's the argument?

I wasn't talking to you when I made that comment.

Reading over your initial comment, I thought you were stating that the act of ******** in public was something concrete as undignified. Well since that's not the case, we are two in agreement, and there is no conflict here.

but the artist isn't ******** in public, they're drawing some pictures, putting some lines and curves on paper. They could even do it anonymously if they wanted to.

"So if I draw a picture of someone taking a **** it wouldn't be undignified.

It is also in our biology to rape and murder, would drawing a picture of someone raping a girl, killing her, then ******** on her corpse be dignified?"

Drawing something on a piece of paper doesn't change the undignified act. If you don't think art can be undignified you haven't been to a modern art fair.

Every single on of my comments is logical, and none of you can refute them. Calling me a troll wont change that.

Except nobody "found me out for baiting", whatever the **** that means.

Sorry, your thoughts aren't reality. Your opinions aren't facts. Just because you think I'm a troll doesn't make it so. In fact I'd think my high positive comment level pretty much proves I'm not a troll.

My argument is simply better than yours, screaming troll will not change that.

lol, you don't even know what a gland is you ******* idiot.

Multiple dimensions? Shut the **** up, you're not clever or funny.

Anybody who reads my comments can very easily decipher that I'm not a troll.

You're not fit to clean my dick after I've finished ******* your meth addicted mother you mongoloid, please kill yourself.

Your comment wasn't a "gest".

You're not a troll, you're retarded. Theres a difference.

I'll forget you after a day, nobody on this site will ever recognize you, let alone thousands.

Theres nothing more pathetic than a wannabe desperately trying to be a famous internet troll, I mean it would be said if it wasn't so hilarious. You are nothing, I advise suicide.

I was wondering how long it would take you to resort to the "no u"

I might have to put you in a cringe comp

Rape and murder aren't part of our biology ******** . You're clearly talking out your arse.

we literally have to end other lives to feed

Sexual coercion and predatory killing and aggression have existed in our species and the animal kingdom since the beginning of time you moron. Thats an indisputable, observable fact. What did you think early man asked women out on dates and got their verbal consent before ******* them. Do you think they had diplomatic meetings whenever another tribe entered their territory?

Don't get pissy at me because you don't understand nature, you ******* idiot.

aaah yes, our rape and murder glands for raping and murdering. I had mine removed.

Well of course we've evolved and developed societal norms as we've progressed as a civilization but our early evolutionary imperatives that made us survive as a species still exist within us.

Why are men sexually attracted to wide wide hips and a large behind? Because that signifies that the female would be able to easily give birth. Why are men attracted to big tits? Because that signifies that she will be a fertile mother who can feed your offspring. Why are we afraid of the dark? Because early man was always on the look out for predators at night.

Everything we think and do is connected to the primal instincts our ancestors had. Nothing is "removed", we simply have evolved to ignore other natural instincts that don't belong in society any more.

Don't talk **** to me until you get educated about the subject you're mouthing off about.

I don't think he knows what dignity means

are you talking about me

because if you are you should probably message that to somebody else whose talking with me to avoid confusion

I am talking to you about him

oh, hopon is a wymn so i got confused

I mean the whole thing you just described is portrayed in movies and tv shows, not animated ones but someone had to act it out...

right, but that doesn't effect whether or not its dignified

So if I draw a picture of someone taking a **** it wouldn't be undignified.

It is also in our biology to rape and murder, would drawing a picture of someone raping a girl, killing her, then ******** on her corpse be dignified? You have a strange concept of dignity.

Also being available to the public is being publicly displayed, they're the same thing.

Actually it is completely related to what we're talking about, sorry.

Dignity is subjective, in fact most things are subjective, I simply question whether your interpretation of dignity is even close to being in line with the common understanding of what is dignified. We all have subjective opinions, but when it comes down to societal concepts like dignity we operate on the presumption that the social norms we all grew up with hold a high standard of reliability.

Poverty is a subjective concept, whats poor to someone from a Detroit ghetto might not be the same as a poor person in Vermont. But we still generally see poverty as being homeless, jobless, and destitute.

Your subjective opinion of dignity is completely different from the commonly held idea of what dignity is.

Also the idea that dignity is somehow linked with supposed psychological health is ridiculous. Even if that were the case it's debatable whether the porn you prefer would be any different from a health standpoint from depictions of violent rape and murder. Video games continually feature grotesque violence but have little to any negative psychological effect on average people.

Your argument is that because sex is natural it must be dignified. That is a flawed argument. You say that depictions of rape and murder and ******** on people aren't dignified because they dont fit into your subjective definition of what a modern civilized society is even though they are all natural acts, while lambasting those who call hedonistic sex acts undignified for the very same reasons.

It's classic double think.

You mean less money?