You know what? You've got a really good point there. Like if the truth was that we could hide, it's not like he'd be sharing that information with us. You know? I-I-I-I think it's a good idea.
no, but then again I'm not going to be hiring him. it's pretty common knowledge that in the information age people do research about people online when hiring them.
it's a long, drawn out story, but when an email address is attached to a profile you can find said profile really easy. information can be found attached to those profiles, that information can be used to continue the search, et cetera, et cetera.
he traced copyrighted material with enough infringement for the artists to complain.
that breaks copyright law mate.
he was also getting paid by memecenter for the work that he was putting out.
money for copyrighted material is pretty illegal mate.
I'm not saying he did so "badly" I'm just saying that it warrents a bit more of a punishment than. "oh, right, my bad"
I'll reitterate what I said earlier so that you and abstractpink can get the sticks out of your butt.
I literally can care less about him 90% of the time. Do I care that he traced a few pictures and got paid for it? not too terribly much anymore. Do I care that someone sincerely believes that making money off of the backs of others is worthy of a bit more than "yeah okay, I won't do it again."
yes.
I just step in whenever the hug box gets a little too tight, because it's pretty ******* retarded to try to defend the dude. We all know he did wrong. that's not the issue anymore. it's the fact that he tried to brush it off.
you don't see me joining in with the hate wagon of " **** off" or " **** off gayboy" do you? no, because I'm not a child. I just think that something more than apology is deserved.
A living wage for 4 comics a month is ridiculous. But yeah if that's the case then he might have legal concerns if anyone chooses to prosecute, also he was grossly overpaid.
he was legitimately being paid by Memecenter. he even posted a fairwell comic on it because they gave him the boot for not posting content even though he was still getting paid. not to mention he put up a kickstarter for people to buy him a new computer so he could keep making the comics.
That announcement is very 1 sided. Sure the admin posted that - but all the information the admin got was through one of the moderators >that same moderator was the one who hired me and was the one I was having a quarrel with.
They gave me the boot because I had to post 4 comics a month. Once I moved into college I needed time to settle in, which meant I couldn't draw that much. In the final week of the month I squeezed out an extra few comics to make up for what I missed but I was fired because "they needed to be spread out".
I put a up a kickstarter not just for a new laptop, most of the money went towards my college tuition. I needed a new laptop anyway because the one I was working on was on the verge of blowing up. No laptop meant no more drawing and that made me very upset.
I would have displayed all this information publicly on my channel but the admin (who I am on good terms with now) didn't want me to bring up that whole incident anymore. Hence why the link to the announcement is in the recyclebin.
I have to reply as anon because you're blocking me
I'm upset that you sincerely believe that an apology all that's needed.
and like I told Soule, I personally don't give two ***** . I think there should be some form of justice but I'm not going to sit here and talk **** to you.
>me having a hissy fit
>says the guy who unprovokingly harasses a guy for years, who blocks people with opinions he disagrees with, and who mentions people he's been arguing with
sure buddy
listen, sure your mum will be okay with you staying up so late though?
No, what I see here is that they're accusing him of only doing art for money. And excuse me but how is that a problem?
Also, I've heard a lot of people saying he traced poses, but, coming from someone whose been in the art community since ******* Myspace was popular, tracing a pose is not copying. Any body can only morph into so many physical shapes and perspectives. That's like saying that tracing a leaf is stealing it's design. Who the **** are you stealing it from? Nature? Jfc.
You people just want someone to hate so you pick on people who don't bother to defend themselves. I'm not letting that happen anymore.
claiming you did all of the art by yourself is fairly illegal, actually.
if the trace is too similar, then you are getting into bounds of infringing upon copyright law for the same reason you can't just take a speech and change a few words and then put it out as your own thing. Parody law on the otherhand is different.
also, if the content you're tracing is protected by copyright law (the things he did trace were, mostly)
the fact that the people who created the original art were able to prove that he was tracing, and the fact that the original works were protected under copyright law makes it illegal.
am I and the rest of funnyjunk pissed that he did it? yes, at the time.
am I and the rest of funnyjunk pissed that he simply brushed it off and has recieved absolutely no punishment? damn skippy. and that's what this is about.
people sit there and try to defend what he did, but it was immoral and down right illegal but he sits there and plays it off like nothing happened.
where did you get the idea that I brushed it all off like it was nothing? would you have wanted me to delete all my accounts and comics to show you how sorry I am?
I made a public apology. I apologised to all the artists I wronged and there hasn't been another incident since over a year ago.
People are still angry because you're still around. You're trying to go on like nothing happened. And I get it, you want to move and forget. But being so surprised that people are still holding a grudge on you is pure ignorance on your part. There really isn't anything you can do at this point.
Do you honestly believe just saying 'Sorry' absolves you from everything wrong you did?
Not from what I can tell. The only place he gets hate is here and as far as I'm concerned Memecenter is a cesspool and what is posted there is literally worthless.
Also, did the people it was copywritten by complain? Because that would be the only way it would even be plausible as a problem.
And thirdly, what the **** does it matter to you? Was it your artwork/pose/whatever? No? Oh, well what the **** are you complaining about?
And considering the **** that goes down on this site, not one of you has the right to judge something on its morality. Am I saying I don't? No, of course not. I'm saying that includes me.
How about instead of finding reasons to not like someone, you find reasons to not care - or better yet - like someone?
personally, I have no reason to hate people until they give me one.
like he has. I can forgive that he traces, and that this isn't the first time. he legitimately has a lot of talent outside of using other people's work, I'm not going to lie.
keep in mind that the most recent situation wasn't even the first time that he had been called out for tracing. however, this is the first time he was making money off of it.
I get that memecenter is a ******** . I don't care if the US government was paying him. money exchanged hands.
that's illegal.
I can easily forgive him for tracing it, but forgiveness without punishment is not okay. That's personally why I detest the asshole.
last year I had to not use my computer for 2 weeks because of all the death threats I was getting from you guys. One of the FJ mods even wanted to dox me.
do you turn a blind eye to this stuff? I'm just a guy in a little dorm room who likes to post cartoons once a month
Not to jump on to the shillwagon here, but it sounds like you really just want to be upset. I mean you said that it doesn't matter how good of a person you are, you must be punished for breaking the law/making a mistake. But if that's true then the reverse would also be true, that no matter how evil one was they shouldn't be punished if they do everything legally. I mean **** , if its not your place to even think of a punishment besides the bashing that he still gets to this day, and most likely will get for a good while longer , couldn't the same be said for judging the "morality" of the situation? I mean if its the legal side that has you angry then I hope you've got the ******* moral high ground of never jaywalking, never littering, never pirating, never being out after curfew, never doing any drugs, never drinking before 18 depending on where you live, I mean **** I could go on. I'm just trying to give you something to chew on that's only like..60% ******** . Just don't hold onto that for too long man, worlds to big and lifes to short to be angry at a faggot on the internet for long.
Even if he did do something illegal (and I'm not convinced he did. I still haven't gotten any evidence of anything. Just an article that was written by some guy on a meme website. *shudder*), it's not your jurisdiction to say or judge. We have people for that.
AND MORESO, even if he DID do that, have you ever even really talked to him? He's a very nice dude - very respectable. I don't even think he needed to apologize to EVERYONE for what he did - just the people that he supposedly stole from.
People hating people they don't know personally just really pisses me off. I don't do it because it's a waste of my precious time. It's no different than judging celebrities when they get jailed for something retarded that wasn't really a big deal.
Sorry, man, I don't mean to sound hostile. It's just a big pet peeve of mine when people spew hate on the internet.
I'm sorry, are you seriously saying we should brush off the fact that this guy got payed money while doing something illegal, only to apologize once when caught and then act like it never happened?
And from what I can tell, Gearboy is not a nice guy. Dude couldn't take criticism for **** on his comics. I thumbed down one of his posts and he went and thumbed down a bunch of mine and blocked me. Real nice and respectable.
Nope. Just simply stating my opinion, which is that you don't seem like a nice guy to me because my first personal impression of you is that you're childish, and that is among all of the other **** I've seen about you. This is coming from someone who used to defend you whenever you were brought up, by the way.
Did you even read all of my posts? I'm not just gonna link you to the ******* comments that explain why you're being pretentious. Go read ALL the pink text, then come back to me.
Yes, you're trying your hardest to defend this guy for being a ******* . I get it. And I'll admit, some people who hate on him go overboard with it. e.g. the death threats and out-of-context mockery.
What he did was still absolute ******** , though. He apologized and that's great but if you **** up that badly you can't just brush it off immediately and expect the entire community to brush it all off as well.
Soule, I appreciate the OC you provide for FJ to keep us entertained, but would you kindly **** off? Gearboy's complete scum for earning money off of traced work and trying to defend someone that does something like that is pointless.
Tiles, as your friend we're totally best friends 5ever , pls stop and stay stop.
I mean, I once copied a guy's joke, should I die too? It happened years ago, man, and gear even got deaththreasts, he's gotten his punishment. Hating someone on the internet who copied some shapes from a virtual comic years after it happened, and still insult him and call him a bad person, is really extremely childish.
He really hasn't gotten his punishment, though. He essentially got off scot free for making money off of traced drawings. If you wanna call verbal backlash over something illegal like that proper punishment than I don't know what the hell you're thinking.
Also if you understood the concept of reputation you'd know that sometimes people don't exactly forget the ******** you've pulled, and if you **** up in the online community, especially such a small one like this, I don't think you can exactly gain that rep back.
Like I said, the death threats are too much, but he's going to have to live with the mockery and insults for probably quite a while longer.
I couldn't care less if he sold his kidney to a kid. just because you do good or are a good person doesn't exclude you from getting punished for the mistake you made. People make mistakes, people get punished, people learn.
what I hate is that he has a personal hugbox of people who are like "nah what he did wasn't so bad."
litering isn't absolutely terrible but there's still a fine for it.
I'm not saying the guy is satan. I'm saying that something should at least be done
Even US Law has a statute of limitations. Holding onto something for this long - especially when it has nothing to do with you - is pointless and childish. At this point anyone who's still "angry" about this is just looking for reasons to be upset with someone because it's ******* edgy to be dark and broody. Anyone who goes out of their way to show public hate on someone is pathetic because they need to hate on others to feel validated in a social setting - on the internet no less.
My point here is don't judge others - it's not really your business. And if you think it is, then... dear God I hope life gets more exciting for you.
Nonono I get that. Sorry, when I meant "you" I meant it as a generalization - not YOU personally. I apologize if it came off that way. I'm kind of turning this more into a preaching session than a 1-v-1 conversation... I got carried away.
That makes his opinion worth less, imo. Anyone who thought it was a good idea to make a site called "memecenter" is... I don't know... I don't even have a word for it.
Also running a website doesn't give you power/credibility. My dog could run a website. Would it be good? Probably not. But... I bet he could do it.
Thanks for being so respectful, bruv. It's a breath of fresh air when a debate doesn't come to name calling.
"Even though this guy is the person who was paying gearboy for his work, his opinion on the matter of him paying an artist for traced work and even no work at all is worthless because of the site he owns"-You
Statues of Limitations are for things that happened decades ago.
Your analogy is **** . Your autistic defense of traceboy is **** .
Find a better way to spend your time.
My comment tickles me a bit, so I can back to look at it and ended up seeing all the have you were getting. Jesus. Even though mine wasn't an attack, sorry about that. I didn't realize you got all this backlash.
he's one of the less popular "explains". Most gearboy hate these days is just beating a dead horse. Much like gear it'd probably be best if you just ignore it. This is FJ do they ever really need a reason to hate people?
I was going to join the explains when the last psychexplain went crazy (hah). Coulda sworn you, skeletor, and psych were the lowest on the totem pole of xplain drama. This was a while ago though. Maybe things changed o.o
Skeletor ain't actually an explain. hence the whole "s" at the end of his name.
Psychexplain's not that popular because he doesn't get to post a lot. generally just gets to step in whenever people wanna pretend they have a mental illness.
while I don't make much content, people generally come to me in private.tabletop games can be pretty confusing, even if you're an expert at them, so it helps to have a bit of a think tank. since starting this account, my skype list has inflated to almost four times its original size.
I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm big dick rick because people like what I do. I didn't make this account for that reason.
Soule, now ever you're losing. You should stop and just understand that he's a douche in this scenario, and just remember that you will never be perfect on the internet as someone will always hate you.
This isn't about me. And I will always stick up for my friends. Some people on the internet don't mean two ***** to me if all they do is bitch about other people. I'd rather not be a part of a website that runs on hate and negativity.
For first of all thinking this actually breaks the law. That's like saying you're breaking the law, because you're copying me, as I was one of the original three explainer accounts, and I'm breaking the law for copying jokexplain and sciencexplain.
Second of all, caring that much. You're a ******* cry baby. So what, gearboy traced some **** on the ******* internet, ******* call the FBI, he's made a direct impact on the world that's killed several children; oh wait, no, it actually harmed no one, and happened a long ass ******* time ago.
The **** kind of punishment do you want him to have? What do you want him to do? ******* suck your dick to show you how sorry he is? Or life time in prison? So what, we're going to pay taxes to throw every internet pirate, Youtube music uploader, copy-cat artist, etc. in prison?
You're being ******* ridiculous. Yeah Gearboy traced in the past, and was a dumbass for taking full credit, it was childish and immature, but he learned from his mistake, and has been punished by ******* extreme treatment, such as constant insults from ******* loser faggots like you, and ******* death threats, and he doesn't trace anymore and is quite the skilled artist now.
You're a ******* child. Boohoo, someone drew lines on the internet that caused no harm, he's a criminal. Literally nobody ever follows the law 100%, you're just as much a criminal ******* swine as the rest of us. Get off your high horse, stop being so ******* butthurt, and forget about it, it's been years, and this was severely unprovoked from your side, ******* loser. You're the kind of person who's only in for punishment, not rehabilitation. Statistically, people with the same ideals as you, are ruining the world. Go have a ******* nice day, you huge **** up.
But you do sit here and bash him, you dysfunctional **** . You're just calling names, and joining in on yet again unprovokingly attacking gearboy, because you're a ******* child. Seriously, and the fact that you take it this seriously, just shows how pathetic you are. You're a ******* disgrace of a person, harassing other people for ******** mistakes for YEARS. Have fun supporting the outright harassment and death threats gearboy gets.
You're truly an example of justice, retard.
Oh, and also
>blocking people who disagree with you
Are you literally Tumblr?
the way I see it its just another popular bandwagon, much like the "joshlol is lonely and phanact is gay" ones.
Originally these myths are based off of something, but overtime they just become meaningless.