Swamp Thing is fantastic. I believe it was the first comic to run without the approval of the comics code authority. They lost their **** over batman and robin being in a sauna together, so Moore's mixture of drugs, gore, nudity, and necrophilia was way too much for them.
Also get your hands on a collection of Moore's DC stories if you can, he really raised the game on comic book standards.
I'm still enjoying Swamp Thing. It's pretty long. But yea Alan Moore is legendary. I've read Watchmen and V for Vendetta and What ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. I've even read Lost Girls, God help me.
I actually get mine from the library. For some reason all the libraries in my city have a great selection of graphic novels. I don't know who was hip enough to bring that in, but I'd love to give them a great big hug.
I've always wondered if other countries have that. Anyone else?
constantine is great. alan moores run on it is legendary. i wouldnt however suggest reading the new 52 constantine..it isnt bad...but it misses everything that is good about constantine. and flanderizes the **** out of the character....
I wouldn't recommend any new 52 except maybe Death Of the Family. And even that misses the point of Batman and pretty much all other characters. (The New 52 Red Hood is pretty cool though). ******* Joker is a challenge for Batman in direct combat which makes no sense.
But nah I haven't read much spectre either. I just know that Deadman and Stranger and Spectre are all highly underrated characters.
joker being a challenge in hand-to-hand depends entirely on the writer and the series, it makes sense if the writer wants it to make sense.
it doesn't make any sense that nobody's killed the joker yet or that nobody else uses joker gas or that nobody's found a sample of batman's blood at a crime scene and used it to find out who he is or that tim drake was somehow the only person capable of deducing his identity or that nobody's found the batcave although all they'd have to do is follow his batmobile or that bruce wayne hasn't somehow poured enough money into arkham to make it impenetrable or that the villains somehow still keep getting their gimmick weapons every time they get out of prison.
80s specter had the greatest artstyle ever put in dc comics. i highly suggest it just for that. the story is great too.
and n52....superman year one was excellent (written by grant morrison) and i have heard nothing but praise for swamp thing and animal man runs (remind me to get to those)
He was joking and making a stereotypical image of the key. Injustice has a habit of making Cyborg and Damian Wayne look like chumps. Which, seems fair, because Damian's a little **** and Cyborg clearly hasn't put any thought into Superman's ******** .
Yeah that too
But seriously Why does ******* none of the "heroes" leave supermans team when he ******* murders several heroes like Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow and Captain Atom. Those heroes are ******* innocent people, atleast they arent criminals.
And then Supermans stupid ass ******* abides by an actual evil murdering dude and keeps Sinestro
thats not the only thing...batman sided with a known mass murderer,replaced superman with another set of tyrants,actually trusted constantine even thou just about every magician in his camp should have warned him to NOT trust him. and then there is wonderwoman, who acts like a wonderbitch instead of the woman that is supposedly be the one that embodies the idea of love the most in the world. then there is hal ******* jordan, the brightest green lantern, actually trusting sinestro. then there comes the idiotic shill towards vigilantes where they actually even claimed (i think it was year 3 or 2) that superpowered heroes never have to learn to fight proper since they dont ever face the same level of threat as vigilantes do thanks to their powers. y know, completely ignoring darkseid and his crew,zoom,brainiac and just about every superman villain that come from outerspace....gjdk. then again, i think comicexplain said it the best,...just dont think of them as the mainstream heroes and its actually decent....
Even Constantine constantly told him not to trust him.
But even if you dont consider them as the actual characters they instead turn into straight up retards, atleast some of them. Like Flash not doing anything and just being a toady and getting captured 24/7 or Cyborg and Raven barely even having dialogue and just obeying Supermans orders
Or the fact that they are doing this **** for "justice" but have no problem with murdering innocent heroes who claim they are going to far, or torturing innocent policemen simply because they believe they have been in contact with Batman, or crippling a dude for ******* protesting
it makes them less of retards and more of hypocrites. if you consider their canon personalities, then the 900 degree turn in personality becomes even worse. superman has gone through a lot worse than what this superman has, and he hasnt gone evil.wonder woman would never allow for a dictatorship of superheroes,neither would flash. batman would not just cold heartedly shove his own son away if dick was killed,aquaman ISNT dumb enough to try and start a war with any of the heroes since he knows that even the entire armadas of the oceans wouldnt be able to defeat any of the power quadro in supermans camp,let alone superman himself. martian manhunter wouldnt get killed like a chump,nor would he do a frontal assault as stupidly as this. shazam seems to have forgotten he has the wisdom of solomon, and enough strength to oppose superman. yet for some reason he stays by superman despite the fact that again, he himself has gone up againts similiar tyrant for years now and doesnt abide by the idea.batman nearly went and started the killing when he crashed the jl headquarters,specter getting dominated by mxy? who then proceeds to beat up phantom stranger but NOT being able to stomp trigon?????
atleast if you consider them to be..NOT who they claim to be. and just sharing a name and nothing else. then the story would make some sense....oh and constantine's part was actually pretty great...he acted more like himself here than he does in his canon comic book incarnation...
Yeah, as i said, its retarded sprinkled with bits of pure awesome, like Plastic mans part But more ******** , them killing of Kyle Rayner like that was ******* insanely ********
And the Aquaman part was both perfect and retarded since Superman and his posse say theyre out to save people and for justice, but when the japanese kill whales which are apparantly like real people to the atlanteans he tells Aquaman to **** off and then holds a ******* city HOSTAGE. That is so ******* retarded i cant even believe it, and WW is ******* constantly egging him on and making everything worse all the time
Just wanted someone to ******* end her once and for all, shame she survived Captain Atoms explosion when she was the one that murdered him
oh and superman actually stomping mogo and a guardian just by getting powered by yellow ring and fear of earthlings was ******** too. i mean, yeah he is strong enough to stomp mogo with that, but the guardians are already approaching universe level in terms of power.
oh and ww "accidentally" killing huntress in combat. despite huntress supposedly being as strong as superman by that point.
and specter siding with superman, despite it being clear that superman had at that point broken so many of the commandments that he should have been frying in hell the moment specter saw him.
But the specter was the irish reality leprechaun in disguise
At first i thought it was ******* retarded that the spirit of vengeance would support Superman since Batman and his crew has just as much if not more reasons for vengeance against Superman at that point. So specter taking sides would be ******* ridiculous and stupid, but then he turned out to be even more stupid than that with the wierd reality bending leprechaun that can fight on equal terms with teh satan
that had taken over the specter entity. meaning the specter would have had a host it doesnt want, that shouldnt be able to exert control over him. and the thing is, what is more retarded is, as i said: mxy not being able to stomp trigon. trigon is just universal level opponent(and not satan btw. satan retired from hell a long time ago) and mxy himself has shattered multiverses just by SHOUTING. and then repaired them with a mere thought.
Yeah, so much retarded stuff Another thing, Supermans unwillingness to ******* catch arrows and **** , Jonathan Kent didnt get hurt because of Green Arrow, he got hurt because Superman let the ******* arrow hit and bounce onto him. It was essentially ******* Superman that hurt him
i dont consider mxy to be retarded. so we have to agree to disagree there...
i think supermans reaction to it was the retarded part...made even worse when jonathan and martha basically said "superman has always been a crybaby and thats why he is now a tyrant" was even worse...heck what made it worse is that jonathan himself didnt DO anything. there has been several incarnations of him that have flipped their **** off at supermen that have tried to start acting like tyrants. and these dont do anything!
Indeed Superman ******* literally beating a heros skull in infront of them. One would think the people who supposedly taught him his morality would be a little ******* pissed of about that
seems to be a common problem in the injustice verse...and by far. the characters being stupid is not what the problem is. the artstyle isnt the worst problem neither. whats worse is the potential they ruined. moral right versus pragmatic right. this was a great set up. and then they ruined it for a vigilante shill and bad characterization....
I just dont see why they had to make Superman a despot, they shouldve just shown the negatives of both sides of justice instead, like Superman killing an innocent man he thought had done something bad
i dont think making superman the despot was a bad choice..i mean it would be refreshing if they did make batman. or perhaps someone else be the despot. but then it would come down to the old question of "why doesnt x just solve the problem by doing x?" (which i think is the main reason every single heavy hitter sided with superman, and martian manhunter and captain atom were killed off so fast) i just hate that they didnt entertain the idea that superman was doing GOOD by taking over. i mean, they did their hardest to try justify the fact that batman is right despite the fact that logically; batman's goal is to return back to the inefficient goverments and police forces that would just increase crime and death rate. the way they would have had to do it, is make the reader question is it better to be morally right(batman) or to be pragmatically right(superman) is it better to let a superpowered alien lord over you, relinquishing the idea of democracy for safety and stable quality of living. or is it better to hold on to your freedom with less stable safety and quality of life?
I was trying to say they shouldnt make him an evil ruler with evil soldiers and curfew and **** . Theres not really any argument or questioning over the morals when he acts like a nazi and allies himself with a dude who draws power from fear and is a known murderer. I feel like it should be more like Superman standing around in space watching everything and killing people who commit crimes or some **** .
Also, he had to have a moral dilemma over if its ok to kill evil space gods from Apokalips but no dilemma over killing Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow and Captain Atom
specially made jarring since its canonically said several times that the apokalips soldiers arent alive anymore. and i think the nazi symbolism is fine to some extent. since they would have to show realistically the bad and good sides both of the moral standpoints offer. aka batman would fight for freedom, but he would be ultimately fighting in order to create a flawed world. superman would act like a totalitarian with militaries and **** . but ultimately he would be creating a safe world for people to live in and his soldiers would still be humane folks. aka, just making it a question of morality.why they act this way, what their goals are,how they go there. and not taking any sides, the narrative would have to be neutral. that would have been awesome. but no. it had to be "batman is right becuz he supports demucrazies!"
One would think Superman would understand better than most that you dont have to be a certain way just because youre born a certain race, i mean Raven is on his side even though i have no clue why, considering he ******* imprisoned the Titans
raven is only a half demon.and even then she is a ticking timebomb and had to be raised by a race of all lawfully good people just to get that far.
etrigan is a demon. and all the demons are chaotic evil. not only because of the obvious (rage againts heavens,hatred of humanity) but because if they stopped being evil, reality itself would get screwed over big time.
with them =/= actual demons. the actual demons are always chaotic evil since its within their nature, and it is their position in life.
same reason why darkseid literally cannot understand good. he is made of evil.thus evil is all he is. etrigan is the same way.to him, being evil is the same as existing.
Yeah, but he basically has acted heroic for about a 1000 years and Superman doesnt know any better about it
Not to mention Superman himself allying himself with the ******* Sinestro corps before this even happened
superman does know etrigan is a demon. and where etrigans loyalties ultimately lie. and yeah.,..allying with the space lucifer is even more moronic since unlike etrigan, sinestro doesnt honor his agreements.(which is again, the reason why etrigan is acting on the side of good)
Yeah, started getting fed up with a lot of **** when Supermans super soldiers started harassing citizens and enforcing curfew and **** , i mean does he not ******* oversee any of his so called peacemaking? Also found it funny when Superman took Batman allying himself with Etrigan (who is basically a hero) harder than he took murdering heroes and crippling people and basically everything else
etrigan is only a hero because merlin forced him into a coalition with jason. its shown that in the "final battle of magic" etrigan will fight on the side of evil againts jason and rest of the good magicians since he ultimately is a prince of hell whose ultimate loyalties are to evil.
it's worth remembering, the comic was given an end point (the game) with certain characters dead or alive, and had to work towards that point from the start. unlike most writing, they had a pretty constricted set of possible stories and characters to work with.
according to my 5 minutes of research his main arch nemisis is a man called Dr. Dome.........and yes his specialty is that he has a dome shaped helmet.....and is prolly a mad scientist and stuff. (also you have me blocked so i had to go anon to reply)
i thought we've been over this, i don't judge you based on your username, i judge based on seeing the same god damn picture of skelotor or whatever theme a person has on every post in the comments. I assume you've cooled down and stopped doing that though since you haven't been flaming this post with them.
yeah i..stopped about a year ago... The reason why you were blocked, if you check your own profile, is because you were following me around n red thumbing me based on the very fact you thought i was a themed account, You are toxic and i don't wanna know ya. Later.
i wasnt "following you around" you were on every post in the comments and after awhile i did what i do to all theme accounts i give it a red thumb and move on lol.
>You were on every post
Its not like i browse the site like anyone else, huh?...
>I did what i do to all theme accounts
Again, I havn't been a theme account for about a year..and none of the **** you thumbed down had skeletor in it. Keep digging that hole though..
difference between browsing and having to comment on every post you look at and yes you were using the pictures because that was the whole reason i started thumbing ya down. I really have no idea what you've been doing for the last year and i don't really care, no offense. believe me i have a lot better things to do with my time then follow you around thumbing down your conmments lol
Its not "Having" to comment..its that i like to comment, share a view, share a story, or an opinion. LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ON THE SITE. Just because you thought i was a themed account, doesn't mean i should have less posting ability than you, you knob..
and If i prove you wrong, can you delete your entire account and **** off entirely?
Thought so, You don't have the balls to put your money where your mouth is mate. Don't ******* talk ******** , Admit it. You triggered yourself on themed accounts like so many other people i have met, but, at least they're honest about it? "Ah man another themed account" they say, a year after my accounts creation..
You seen an account name, triggered yourself, and went on a rampage on someone who JUST wants to browse the site.. i had my ******* time in the sun, i quite literally don't need the attention at max level Nor do i want the attention for just selfish reasons, I make a few funnies, a few people laugh. Thats all i ever cared about.
When i say "Ball-less cunt" Know that it'll forever be you i am referencing.
when have i not been honest about hating theme accounts. pretty sure i'm saying i ******* hate theme accounts right now. do you keep refreshing the page waiting for me to reply lol. the fact that your using triggered only amuses me more your so inflamed on your own ego that your starting internet fights because some guy like me said hes sick of you posting the same pictures from a god damn year ago. your holding a grudge for a ******* year?
its day. And i'll sleep like a ******* baby. Really crossing my fingers for that block anon
Anythin' else? Wanna talk about how i needed to come to you specifically? I mean i just seen an image, thought it was funny, commented..And then you went "Man why u block me tho man" I gave you the answer, and you were an asshole about it. You reap what you sow.
I told you, the answer is literally in your profile comments, and you couldn't be bothered to do it. Trust me, I won't lose any sleep at night knowing that i blocked the Internet sensation "Mattandstuff" From a website...
once again your just proving how important this is to you. and my comment was telling you who his arch nemisis was, calling you an theme account whore was just stating the obvious about why i was blocked. I'm sorry though i should not have been so mean to you. you've obviously taken it personal. i'm sorry i ruined your day, i know how important being on funnyjunk is to you
Dude, i keep closing the tab and doing other stuff. if anything, i'm only coming back to respond to what i can see as a kindness. I don't have anything to prove, least of all to you.
**kanatana used "*roll picture*"** **kanatana rolled image** Okay, okay, I know there's a LOT of bandwagon going on about One Punch Man and all this fanart of him beating up Goku and **** , but based on everything I've read with Plastic Man in it, I am reasonably certain that Saitama could not actually kill him. Period.
Luffy isn't 100% impervious to physical damage though, just resistant to it. I disagree with people saying OPM could beat Goku, but he could definitely beat Luffy
Nah. Plastic Man doesn't need to breathe. He survived thousands of years on the ocean floor as bits and pieces before being reassembled. For all intents and purposes, unless he's literally vaporized to atoms, he's functionally immortal and pretty much immune to blunt force trauma. As far as Luffy goes, he's a better stretcher (while Luffy has more offensive power, he has a limit to his ability) while Plas is a greater shapeshifter than even the Martian Manhunter.
**nagafever used "*roll picture*"** **nagafever rolled image** well i guess he coul also just punch him to the edge of the universe... doesnt kill him but he aint coming back