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#90 - toguro (12/14/2015) [-]
I live in a city where Im a minority (British/White), in my Biology class I sat next to two muslim girls, one day I asked "So if you're not strictly supposed to wear a hijab why do ya?"

I got a pretty funny answer, said in a completely jaded and deadpan tone "Oh I just cant be arsed doing my hair in a morning."

Good to know that no matter the background we're all lazy *****
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User avatar #203 to #90 - biscuitsunited (12/14/2015) [-]
Never seen an area of Britain where white is the minority.
Just sayin I'm quite surprised
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#259 to #203 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]
London, Leicester, Birmingham, Manchester.
Most large cities are Muslim majority now.
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User avatar #260 to #259 - biscuitsunited (12/21/2015) [-]
Well, go majority white Liverpool?
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#123 to #121 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Probably Leicester lol
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#5 - anon (12/13/2015) [-]
Often, women choose to wear a headcovering (be it a hijab, a tichel, a sealin, whatever they might be called). As a woman who chooses to cover, I came to the decision on my own when I found my faith growing stronger. It's all right to not understand something, but to remain so ignorant and cruel is most certainly not.
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#198 to #5 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
doesn't the head covering for women come from the quran, I remember hearing something about Muhammad meeting someone important in his home so his wives donned a head covering to convey how (reserved?) they were. Now I admit I'm not a terribly religious person but I think it's a decision each individual Muslim woman should come to on their own, so long as they're not being forced by a parent or husband to wear a covering then I see no problems with its use. aside from identifying people for some security reasons such as checkpoints in instances where the head covering also covers the face.
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User avatar #10 to #5 - nanako (12/13/2015) [-]
Why?
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#148 to #10 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
It prob gets the males to shut up about it and its practical in the Middle East since it protects your face better then hair does. It also could be stylish like how people wear fancy dresses. My mother told me that when she was talking to a student about it, told her that they did it to get the men to not be on there case and they didn't mind it all that much. The only reason people think this is a issue is that it's not common practice in North America and because of that we act like sjws to say they should have to wear it. We live in a country that is free to express itself if the woman don't want to wear it then then they aren't forced to as the people who abject cant do anything about it as the only thing is to harm them which would get them in trouble, if they wear it they wear it if they don't they don't.
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#32 to #5 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
And for those who don't willingly choose to, but are forced to because of their family's faith? Is that perfectly alright with you as well? Disagreeing with the practices of your religion does not automatically make people ignorant and cruel. Forcibly imposing your standards onto others is.
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#66 to #32 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
until the person is old enough(13+) they have to follow the parents rule. If the child sinned(in this case, not wearing a hijab outdoors), then the parents will receive that sin.
So, if the child still doesnt want to wear the hijab outdoors(their hair can be seen by members of the family)after they are of age, its their sin. Thats why parents are encouraged to teach their children at an early age. they dont want their children to sin later on in life.

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User avatar #104 to #66 - orangelightning (12/14/2015) [-]
Do you not realise how ******* mental it sounds to describe showing your hair as a sin?
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#111 to #104 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
i would imagine it sounds about as mental as treating the act of showing your bare chest or butt cheeks as sinful or illegal. and i'm talking for average person, not a landwhale.
that super obeselandwhale exposure can be borderline gore sometimes as it can be more shocking and/or disgusting on par with seeing a severly diseased person for the first time ever.

as far as i can tell, a woman feeling the need to cover up her long hair everyday without fail seems like a mental disorder to me, and in documentaries, when they are asked why they do it, the closest they can come to giving a sensible or practical answer is: hinting that they would be ostracized if they didnt cover up.
and by "hinting" i mean they never actually say it themselves but they agree that yes they would be treated like trash when the documenter suggested the idea of no hijab.

IMO it seems that such a culture is really old and backwards that a woman showing her long hair in public is apparently the equivalent of anyone else showing off their bare ass in public for no good reason. so its just a backwards culture thing.

now i kinda wonder if that is how those pure nudist lifestyle people think about the rest of us? do they think we modern americans are also an ass backwards culture who are ashamed to show our natural god given form? and by pure nudist i mean those people who do it NOT just because they get to see big tits all day every day.
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#152 to #111 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
But we end up ostracizing those willing to practise their religion. This shouldn't be a thing where we they being sjws for them so they don't have to wear it but by living in north america they're already free to not wear it all they want
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#119 to #104 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Its no crazier than Christian old testament sins.
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#113 to #66 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
And then the individual risks harm by the family. It doesn't apply here but...honor killings dude... a family that will slaughter their flesh and blood over absolutely ******* nothing would not have any qualms about harming a young girl for not following rules. Not saying all or even the majority would do this but its a barbaric way of thinking, and some do think that way.
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#154 to #113 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Well then the family member gets charged if they're in the west, it's not different just because it's for a religist reasons
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#149 to #32 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Which is what people are doing when saying they should have to wear it
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#22 to #5 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
If my religion says that I have to wear socks with sandals or I go to hell when I die and might be stoned to death for wearing sandals without socks, am I actually making the choice to wear socks and sandals, or am I being threatened into wearing socks and sandals and pretending that it's okay?
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User avatar #12 to #5 - hudis (12/13/2015) [-]
"Wearing a hijab is okay with me and totally not oppressive because it's Islam/Allah/The Quran telling me to do it, not other men."
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User avatar #168 to #12 - therealtjthemedic (12/14/2015) [-]
"Praying at church and not committing adultery is totally okay with me and totally not oppressive because it's Jesus/God/The bible/ telling me not to do in, not other men"
Choosing to ******* do it as to practice religion is still choosing
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#125 to #12 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
You are the type of people that doesn't even bother looking for the "why", "benefits" or "reasons"

Please tell me why do you care so much about what other people are doing? Will you die if a random woman wore a Hijab?

If some of you are not bothered by woman stripping and prostituting for money why should you bothered by woman wearing a piece of cloth over her head?
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User avatar #127 to #125 - hudis (12/14/2015) [-]
"You are the type of people that doesn't even bother looking for the "why", "benefits" or "reasons" "

I'm not, actually. I grew up in a very mixed area. About half of my friends to this day are immigrants or have immigrant parents, and about half of those are muslims. I've spent a lot of time analysing and discussing this in an effort to understand and while my post is perhaps overly simplified, it remains the conclusion I've reached.

I don't advocate putting a ban on hijabs. I do, however, question the reasons for wearing them even when they appear to be generally good.
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User avatar #56 to #12 - selongb (12/14/2015) [-]
2 things

1) Islam is the religion made by Allah, through revelations to muhammad (pbuh) that when compiled make the quran. So they aren't interchangeable like your post would suggest. The correct way to say it would be "because it's Allah telling me to it"

2) By saying "other men" you are implying that Allah is a man, which is just straight up false. Now a scholar may say he when referring to Allah, but this is only out of convenience, no scholar worth their salt would ever say that Allah is male.
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User avatar #58 to #56 - hudis (12/14/2015) [-]
1) I wasn't trying to say that they are interchangeable, I just used all three so no one would feel the need to say "It's not X, it's Y" - but it seems that's inevitable anyway.

2) I wasn't trying to say that Allah is a man either, I just shoved an "other" in there because it looked weird when it said ", not men."

Why do you elbow your way into every post thread about Islam even when there is absolutely no need to and you're only there to nitpick?
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User avatar #60 to #58 - selongb (12/14/2015) [-]
Because very few people do, and with all the anti-islamic **** on this site, someone has to actually come in and balance that **** out.
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User avatar #133 to #60 - hudis (12/14/2015) [-]
But you're not doing that at all. You're just being pedantic with words and phrases while repeating the same old No True Scotsman fallacy that nobody buys anymore.

I do understand what your angle is and that it must be very frustrating for you to see many FJ'ers attitude to Islam every day, but I think you're going the wrong way about it.
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User avatar #246 to #133 - selongb (12/15/2015) [-]
I love how this site loves to whip out the "No True Scotsman" fallacy as being an end all be all, which in itself is a fallacy.

You are obviously familiar with my work, so you should know that I have always provided quranic and hadith based evidence for justification when I say that ISIS and co. aren't Islamic.
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User avatar #257 to #246 - hudis (12/16/2015) [-]
And that would be wonderful for you if the Quran wasn't as self-contradictory as many other religious texts.
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User avatar #118 to #60 - tanitakavirius (12/14/2015) [-]
I totally agree. So many crusaders Christians here that will say unironically Deus Vult.
There should be more anti-Christians and anti-fascists here.
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#137 to #118 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
No. There should be more level-headed and tolerant people here who choose to try and be understanding of everyone. Regardless of belief or color or gender or bodytype. Criticize someone for their morals, debate their politics. But all this circlejerk attackdog ******** has to go.

You bring in Anti-Christians, then more Christians show up and get even more hostile. Escalation. They'll want to 'win' despite the fact there's nothing to lose.

People need to ******* realize that we're all the same. Doesn't matter where we come from, what we look like. We're all human beings. All these pointless divisions are self-engineered or forced on us and our way of thinking to keep us separated as resources, not to help us as human beings.
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#186 to #118 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
like a year ago this site was nothing but atheist posts with jokes that weren't even funny

"why did the chicken cross the road? cuz god isn't real LOL"

And also, what the other anon doesn't understand is that we aren't all the same. Our beliefs influence our choices, and our choices influence what we experience, and our experiences change us. Some human characteristics that you'd think are universal, are in fact, not. I'll stop being against Islam when it stops being a safe haven for pedophiles and violent criminals. That's also why I wasn't a huge fan of Catholicism until this recent pope started going **** about the pedophiles, now i'm neutral. What Muslims seem to not understand is that the world doesn't really care what you believe, at the end of the day we judge your choices, and I will always oppose a religion that encourages violence, pedophilia, and treating women like garbage.
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User avatar #30 to #5 - magicalsteve (12/14/2015) [-]
A muslim woman on funnyjunk?
What the **** ?
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User avatar #7 to #5 - paddypancake (12/13/2015) [-]
I don't think cruel is a proper word to describe people writing **** on 4chan. Especially in this case.
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#14 - xxxgnipsxxx (12/13/2015) [-]
Just sayin... Some muslim women like wearing this kind of stuff because they want to be accepted for what they do and say and not for how they look. Like many of the girls I know.
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User avatar #82 to #14 - kurbeh (12/14/2015) [-]
I knew one girl that looked really really good with this thing.
Hijab I think.
The towel over the hairs, you know what I mean.
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#15 to #14 - staleness (12/13/2015) [-]
They're indoctrinated into thinking they have to be that way you tool. I believe in freedom, make your own choices, and don't let others opinions influence your decisions. If you do, you're just a weak pathetic ******* fool.
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#16 to #15 - xxxgnipsxxx (12/13/2015) [-]
lol chill out man no needs for insults, just saying there's other ways to look at it a lot of muslim women are proud to wear whatever it is they wear. I guess I'm referring to women in countries where they have a choice to wear what they want, like in the West. Of course in places where it's forced that's wrong. Every culture is imposed on it's people by indoctrination. If you believe in freedom and these women want to wear a scarf or a hijab, who are you to say they shouldn't? Like that picture above shows, I could argue that girls in America are indoctrinated into looking and dressing like a barbie doll. It's hypocritical to condemn one culture when our own isn't perfect at all.
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User avatar #27 to #16 - awyissss ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
That's fine if they truly want to wear their hijab. More power to them.
However, it would be hard to say that this type of decision is really a "female empowering" one. Islam does advocate for good ideals a lot of the time, but a huge problem evolves from the text when read from a modern standpoint:
Islam is not a very feminist religion. Now, this does not mean that feminists can't follow the faith, but the culture behind the Koran and the text itself is not usually known for treating women fairly. If a woman is raped, tradition says she is to be stoned along with the perpetrator. Wives are not allowed to own property; their husbands are the primary owners of everything. Women have to dress modestly in order to protect males from sin.
Now, people may have different interpretations of what the Koran means with these problematic passages. However, the violent and oppressive interpretations are just as valid as any others they may come up with.
It's something that needs to be seriously addressed. We can't just say "a woman making a decision is empowering" if that decision potentially validates hundreds of years of oppression.
Our culture isn't perfect, but at least we can say the woman dressed like a barbie doll probably made those decisions herself, and not out of fear of being stoned if she didn't. No one forced her; she decided to do everything it took to get that type of body based on what she wanted (attention, empowerment, etc.)
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User avatar #45 to #27 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
Asshole! I've read the entire Quran from to back. Just like the new and old testaments, the Quran is so contradictory it literally makes no ******* sense if you read it front to back.

This is why I hate people. I've seen a number of you behaving in a manner I despise. What manner? You dismiss anything outside your personal experience and you want to cling on to ideas that make you feel good, rather than acknowledge the ugly truths of the world.

At least I have the ******* dignity to admit there's things I don't know, and knowing that, I go out of my way to check multiple sources for information on single subjects.

You lack empathy, without it you'll never be able to think outside the box, or simply recognize evil when you see it. I know what I'm for, I'm for the people of all stripes and colors. I want to see a world where everyone is truly free. What the **** do you stand for? Huh?

....I need to go find more drugs if I'm going to put with this -___-
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User avatar #46 to #45 - awyissss ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
OK, I have no idea what your on about. I've tried to be civil in my discussion of this sensitive subject, but you seem to be on a tangent of calling people SJW's and assholes with the intent of starting a fight.
I have nothing more to add and I am going to stop posting in this thread. I hope you'll consider learning from this and stop insulting people who are just trying to have a calm and thoughtful conversation.
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User avatar #51 to #46 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
I was reflecting just before you posted... Maybe I let my anger get the better of me. Probably doesn't help to be drunk and on drugs either...

Whatever, I'm not apologizing. :3

All of you will warm up to me eventually. Naturally I'll continue with my aggressive and assertive behavior. Just don't take what I saw too seriously, I honestly just don't have the energy in me to hate anyone. I need it for physical stuffs.

Yeah, this post could have been a PM to you. I just think sincerity works better with crowds. That and under the circumstances I feel going to you alone would be cowardly.

-not sorry-
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#177 to #51 - Bobtheblob (12/14/2015) [-]
Is this your audition for the newest cringe comp? Because it's A+ work.
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#174 to #45 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (12/14/2015) [-]
I am so sorry about people, not everyone that likes anime is like levvy, uchichalover and this retard. Please don't judge the genre/medium based on how people like these behave.

Thankyouverymuch.
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User avatar #183 to #27 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Also, you say that the American woman "chose" to look that way

I guarantee you that our warped cultural and social values pertaining beauty made her that way.

You are socially ostracized and mocked for refusing to stay ridiculously read: an extreme thin and not follow the latest in fashions.

The woman COULD dress conservatively, but then she wouldn't have all the friends she wanted and would be talked about as 'ugly' and 'worthless' for not conforming. That **** hurts as bad as a stoning, only it's more of an emotional pain.
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User avatar #184 to #183 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
What I'm saying is the barbie doll girl is doing it out of fear of social rejection, so it's not exactly the most empowering move ever.
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User avatar #182 to #27 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Can the traditions not change? Can values in faiths not change? Can the reasons for wearing such garments not change?

I understand your argument, but if a woman feels that wearing a hijab forces her potential husband- whom she, as a modern woman, selects herself and not by her father's wishes- to look at her as a person and not an object then I say let her have her ugly garment.

The koran also isn't so fair to men, either. It's implying that men are uncivilized beasts who will sin if they catch a glimpse of womanflesh. And yeah, over the hundreds of years men have used the religion to oppress woman. Did the old testament not imply that a woman is her husband and father's property and entirely incapable of making her own decisions?

People still follow the faith despite years of oppression. They simply modified it.

A woman should not live in fear of being stoned for refusing to protect herself from rape/being objectified. But she should be given the CHOICE to wear a hijab in countries where it is not enforced.
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#165 to #27 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
for the record none of the stuff you said is mentioned in the koran. seriously.

The only book where it might be mentioned is the hadith. but again different book and most people doubt it's legitimacy.
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User avatar #129 to #16 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
ofcourse theres a need for insults

You HAVE to think exactly as they do, they're invested in that
If you dont they take it as a personal rejection and that makes them upset
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User avatar #192 to #129 - infinitereaper (12/14/2015) [-]
>implying the white knights and beta fags aren't thumbing up a stupid girl with a stupid opinion
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User avatar #201 to #192 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
I dont think it makes any difference in this particular case
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User avatar #17 to #16 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
You sound like a goddamn SJW, you know? Don't me "man" either...

You know, every single muslim I've ever met were very lovely people. When it come to this sharia **** though, that's an affront to my moral values. I will not keep my voice down. You're going to ******* hear me and if you have two brain cells to rub together you'll at the very least consider my positions.

If you actually think muslim women under sharia law aren't oppressed you need to do some ******* reading and researching.
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#21 to #17 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Do you mind explaining how women under Sharia are opperessed?
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User avatar #23 to #21 - awyissss ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Let's see
>Wives are allowed to be beaten by their own husbands
>Wives are not allowed to own property
>Women are not allowed to drive
>They must have a male guardian with them at all times outside of their home
>Under law they must wear their hijab and keep modest under the threat of violence
>If a woman is raped, it is considered a dishonor and will be shunned for something that was not her fault
And this is just a few. I don't know about you, but I don't think these types of practices would be around in a feminine-friendly culture.

Source: www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/womens-rights-under-sharia
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#28 to #23 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
First of all i apologize for any typo because i am on my phone.
The beating is not as you imagine it is, this "beating" or even better "hitting" is just a simple slap on the wrist IF and only IF necessary.

I couldn't find anything about women that cannot own property but i will answer it from my own experince. Which the statment is obviously fake, women can and do OWN property, houses or shops you name it, my own mother does own a house in the "oppressive" kingdom of saudi arabia.

The women can't drive is more of a country issue rather than a religion issue.

The "gaurdian" isn't always male. Women are gaurdian to eachother of they go WITH EACHOTHER. And if you are going alone you can just take your son.

Hijab or vile "dependant on the teaching of schools" are obligatory. I've never heard of someone killing a woman because she did not wear hijab, And if there was violence it would come from either the parents or the relatives.

While rape is a horrible thing obviously, it is really hard to judge on this. Such things need us to go deep to Figh(فقه) to explain even the slightest.




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User avatar #35 to #28 - awyissss ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
1. "Beating" can take on several different meanings, but I do admit that it is entirely up to interpretations
2. I admit I did not look too much into this. However, this very well might be a case of culture adapting from a certain interpretation of the text
3. If it's an issue with a country's culture, where does that culture derive from? Most likely the traditions, practices and values taught by Islam
4. Still, the fact that women need a guardian at all while men can be completely independent is still kind of screwed up. The practice is saying "Hey, we don't trust you to not tempt some poor soul into sinning or to protect yourself, so here's someone to watch over you to make sure you don't".
5. If your family abuses you because you forgot to wear a piece of clothing and someone saw you, is that really fair?

I stressed this in another comment but I'll say it again. I have nothing against Islam as a religion. There are several unique lessons and values that we can appreciate and learn from to this day. As many gripes as I have, I know that there are at least a few passages we can point to that reflect our values today for every difficult lesson to swallow.
However, that's one of the problems I have with religions all-together. No matter what text is used there's always going to be contradictory messages that are used to justify good things and bad things. What was considered ok in one part of the text could be called sinful in another.
People have always used religion to justify their horrible actions. We as human race just have to learn what lessons are ones that are relevant and helpful and which ones need to be left in past ages.
If I come across as anti-Islam in anyway I'm sorry if I offended you. That is not my intent in any way, shape, or form. I just think that calling a religion a "feminist religion" is a jump to a conclusion. Islam is what it's followers make it out to be. A text is just a text; it's the interpretation and culture that develops behind it that is feminist or anti-feminist, violent or peaceful.
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User avatar #55 to #35 - ciacheczko (12/14/2015) [-]
Well, there you said it.

"(...)but I do admit that it is entirely up to interpretations "

I don't know what various people's on sharia law are, but if something that's supposed to be a law is shady enough to be "up to interpretation", it's **** , not law.

This is why western law is so complicated and meticulous. This is why every bit of evidence matters and is treated very upfront. Why there's a ******* of paragraphs, each related to something slightly different. Law shouldn't be a matter of interpretation. Because then it's not a law at all - it's just random people, each having its own sense of what is righteous or not. No one will get justice that way.
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#142 to #35 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
And yet, on #3, which country between an Islam country and America has the most cheating women? Especially with how much easier it is for a woman to pick up a quick **** here than it is for any one man to do so. Just saying, the country started going to **** socially around the time women got 'liberated' from their 'oppressive' home lives where they were cared for and only had to look after the house/anything they did as a hobby. Families started breaking up like crazy, can barely find a person with two parents these days.
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User avatar #24 to #21 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
Oh please, allow me to elaborate for you. ******* troll.
Sharia law treats women like objects or cattle.

Sura 2:228 :
Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status.

Sura 4:11 :
A male gets a double share of the inheritance over that of a female.

Sura 4:129 :
A Muslim polygamist may simply get rid of one of his undesirable wives.


Sura 2:282 :
A woman’s testimony counts half of a man’s testimony.

Sura 4:24 :
Slave-girls are sexual property for their male owners

Sura 4:3 :
A man may be polygamous with up to four wives

Sura 4:34 :
Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded—as if domestic violence in any form is acceptable).

Sura 65:1.4 :
Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.
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User avatar #63 to #24 - jackopo (12/14/2015) [-]
Y'know,i searched in the internet those 'sura'....didn't fin them :/
I don't wanna say you lied,but you have no proof beside you saying 'i read the Qur'an'
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User avatar #65 to #24 - jackopo (12/14/2015) [-]
I searched
Sura 2:282 :
Sura 65:1.4 :
Sura 4:34 :
I found the pages,not the words,all of them didn't have what you write.
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User avatar #37 to #24 - skygrok (12/14/2015) [-]
Cont.
Again hitting does not mean beating her to a bloody pulp. It is more of a slap on the wrist IF NECESSARY.

Surah65:1.4; Nothing here mentions what you said.
Please elaborate or maybe check your sources.


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User avatar #36 to #24 - skygrok (12/14/2015) [-]
No need to be an edgy faggot and call anyone a troll.
I am not trying to be calm and start my own strawman.

Anyway back to your argument. The first ayha you gave me talks about what happens WHEN the husband and his wife divorce. The "men have more right" is not comlpleted.

(SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Divorced women remain in waiting for three periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have more right to take them back in this [period] if they want reconciliation.)

"But the men have a degree over them [in responsibility and authority]" What you did here had been done by everyone arguing about islam. Take a surah out of context and paste to demonize islam.

Surah4:11 ; "Since Islamic law imposes greater financial obligations on men in respect of family life and relieves women of a number of such obligations, justice demands that a woman's share in inheritance should be less than that of a man."

Surah4: 129 talks about the husband of multiple wives and how he cannot treat each equally to the others.
"Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so): But turn not altogether away (from one), leaving her as in suspense. If ye do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful." And how is it "simply get rid of one of his wives" simple? Divorce is one of the horrible thing a man can do AND islam made a lot of ways for husband and wife to eachother without remarrying, can i ask you from where are you getting these bad translations?

Sura 2:282 : Again half asses translation. Here is the real translation : (but if two men are not there, then let there be one man and two women as witnesses from among those acceptable to you328 so that if one of the two women should fail to remember, the other might remind her. Let not the witnesses refuse when they are summoned (to give evidence). Nice half assed translation.

Surah4:24 Man where did you get such bad translations, it is like you got them from a biased **** spewing propaganda site.
Anyway here is what it should be like:
(SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.)
Also i'd like to point one thinf, sex slaves where there even before islam. Mostly the remenant of a pillaged town of village anywhere in the world, trying to pin the whole nail on islam is hypocritical.

Surah4:3 :
This marrying up to four is not obligation to anyone.
Such thing only started to help widows (or as you call it a single mother) if a man feared for the orphans of deceased man he can marry their mother.

"And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]."

Surah4:34 ;
"Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand." Character limit.

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User avatar #19 to #17 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
My apologies, I typed that post way to quickly. Hopefully it's understandable.
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User avatar #188 to #15 - steamjester (12/14/2015) [-]
stalenes , You're either a trolling or simply failing at life. Only CHILDREN assume that others want to live life the way they do. Thus you and everyone like you = childish. Now go eat a dog d*ck, f*aggot.
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User avatar #187 to #15 - steamjester (12/14/2015) [-]
Wow, can you be any more of a jackass? I believe in Freedom myself, but way to be a ******* faggot. There's no need to insult you, but your sheer stupidity is worthy of pain, humiliation and insulting. No, seriously. There ARE humans who simply don't want to show their body, share their partners, or do other primitive **** . Go be a ******* cuckhold f*ggot somewhere else. Or a f*ckboi. Whichever. Primitive ape.
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#181 to #15 - aaronsalsa (12/14/2015) [-]
GIF
...but... that IS their own choice...
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User avatar #180 to #15 - elcreepo ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
We're not talking about the areas where this is enforced, we're talking about women who do this as THEIR choice so that they are not judged solely on their looks.

If a woman wants to show off her beauty, that's fine.
Some women feel that physical beauty should come second to personality and depth, and a man should love her for her, not her looks which will inevitably fade anyway.

It's like how some girls don't wear a ton of makeup or work out or wear uncomfortable clothing. They just don't want male sexual attention.

Nothing wrong with it, faggot.
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User avatar #167 to #15 - xikato (12/14/2015) [-]
it's the next upcoming troll, at -29 votes atm.
only ever replied here and all negative comments
keep 'er at 0 lads
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#139 to #15 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Found the feminist.
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#136 to #15 - sirquidam ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
GIF
The comment staleness made isn't wrong. In Muslim dominated countries, it is the culture for the women to cover up completely or else they get beat. That's a fact. Women do not have a choice over what they want to dress in those countries. If you've heard of some, they're either heavily scorned or dead.

If some Muslim women prefer to cover themselves up freely without fear, that's fine. It'll be little strange, but people can adapt.
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#96 to #15 - iridium (12/14/2015) [-]
>Makes the choice to wear one when they don't have to
>Indoctrinated fool
>People should have a choice
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#87 to #15 - innocentbabies (12/14/2015) [-]
It's a cultural thing, they're free to wear it if they want to, and they choose to because it's what's normal in their culture. Men and women alike are free to wear it in the United States, and the overwhelming majority choose not to because it's not normal in our culture.
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User avatar #70 to #15 - skateboardingdog (12/14/2015) [-]
you dont deserve red thumbs from someone who has never read the q'uran
and you are completely right
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User avatar #31 to #15 - schneidend ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
That someone is "indoctrinated into thinking" a certain way is exactly what radical feminists say about women who don't put up with their ******** .

Congrats on becoming exactly what you hate.
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User avatar #33 to #31 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
I'm not a feminist or an SJW you ******* . Congrats on judging me harshly when you don't know a ******* thing about me at all.

I believe... you can say whatever you want about me or anyone else. It's up to the affected group or individual to deal with any situations or criticisms they're faced with. No asshat should get to live in a bubble where they are "protected" from ideology they simply don't like.

In 1944 18 year olds were running up on beachheads and across battlefields facing certain death. Now it's 2015 and the weakness of my generation makes me ******* sick to my stomach.

My ******* grandfather died protecting freedom. Although I never knew him he's an inspiration to me and I'll carry the torch he held until my dying breath.
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User avatar #64 to #33 - nagasadow (12/14/2015) [-]
where was he slain?
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User avatar #34 to #33 - schneidend ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Yeah, I figured you weren't an SJW or a feminist. That was my point, you're using their exact same logic. Somebody made a choice to wear an article of clothing you disagree with them, and that makes them some kind of indoctrinated slave? That's a fallacy.

Your grandfather was also fighting so people could worship as they please. When are you planning on enlisting, btw?
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User avatar #38 to #34 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
It's not a choice if you're taught that you have to be a certain way. Otherwise you'll face brutal punishment.

It's not nearly as hard for north americans to denounce the religions we were born into. At least it wouldn't be if your parents were any kind of decent. Here people are supposed to have the right to choose their own lives, here we're supposed to be decent.

but...

You just don't ******* get it do you? Muslim women under Sharia law are brainwashed into thinking that they are subhuman at the youngest ages possible. If a women rebels in these regions, it's a death sentence. It's slow and brutal one too.

Face it, Sharia law is ******* barbarism! Do you think it's ok for women to be executed for simply wanting the freedom to chose their own lives? Do you think it's ok those women are taught to hate their own bodies because of a disgusting religious doctrine? That's why, more often than not, they wear those ****** up ghost robes and hijabs you know.

I have to say, all of the muslims I've ever met were actually more likable people than most others. Of course, none of them support ISIS or Sharia Law either so that's much more understandable and agreeable. These muslims focus on the parts of the Quran that say things like "If you kill an innocent, it's like you've killed all mankind".

Do you think I care if anyone is religious? Do you think I give a **** about religious garments? Our countries are founded on diversity and respect for others. I can respect anyone who won''t fault my lifestyle over personal belief. Sharia however, is an aggressor to my way of life.

I ******* went out and protested that refugees SHOULD be able to come here. I can respect them if they can respect me. I fought for stranger who I knew don't hold my beliefs. You know why? It was the right thing to do.
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User avatar #39 to #38 - schneidend ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
No, I definitely understand that there are brutal theocracies where women are oppressed. I'm not ******* retarded. I never said anything supporting Sharia Law, only that you're using the same lines of logic that radical feminists do. They use the "It's not a choice if you're taught that you have to be a certain way" line, too, and they're just as wrong when they say it about women who don't buy into their movement. Nobody here is proposing Sharia Law. Where are you even getting that? The chick in the content is in ******* Vancouver, apparently. There are women in France, the US, Canada, all over the world, choosing to wear hijabs even though there are no laws forcing them to do so.
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User avatar #40 to #39 - staleness (12/14/2015) [-]
I know I'm walking a thin line here but I'm right when comes to many middle eastern countries. They really don't have a choice or access to proper education. Women raised under Sharia law are trained like dogs. Are you going to deny that?

Don't get me wrong... All that tumblr **** ... is just **** . The modern feminist movement doesn't give a **** about real women's issues across the globe. They would rather pretend their pampered lives are so though because of "the patriarchy"

Those people need get a ******* grip on reality. Sharia garbage aside, we've got people cutting off womens clitorises and labia in places like africa and beyond. You know why they do it? Religious reason of course. Religion is a ******* toxin to the mind and detriment to human progress.
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User avatar #41 to #40 - schneidend ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Again, not what I'm talking about at all. Nobody but you is talking about Sharia.
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#101 to #41 - zalashji (12/14/2015) [-]
I feel bad for your keyboards right now you m8s...
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User avatar #191 to #14 - infinitereaper (12/14/2015) [-]
******* moron, do you understand what Islam actually is?
You get stoned for not covering up, and then raped. Islamic law is a bitch.
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User avatar #195 to #191 - afterdelete (12/14/2015) [-]
I think the thing you're talking about is sharia. And if i'm not mistaken you wouldn't even be allowed to wear a hijab while under sharia law. So for this girl to be able to wear a hijab means there must be some muslims who are accepting to this kind of things. Which leads me to my conclusion that not everything in the world is death and bloodshed.

I know that i didnt really say much meaningful, but i hope it will bring a bit more positivity here
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User avatar #196 to #195 - infinitereaper (12/14/2015) [-]
Which is from Islam. It's a pretty insane book. With pretty insane people and culture. Stop being a fool and hamstringing. Jijabs are stupid anywhere but the desert to begin with because they serve no purpose. In the desert they might help against sunlight and sand. there's a strong point to this post. To defend Islam is as anti feminist as it gets. Though I'm anti feminists so I don't really care. Still.
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User avatar #199 to #196 - afterdelete (12/14/2015) [-]
Yes, islam, when it was first founded, it spread through war and conquest. That is something that can not be denied. But there is also progression going on in the islamic world. Take Saudi-Arabia for example, where women were given the right to vote, and to be elected for regional councils. That is a HUGE step forward for a country like that, although it doesn't look like much to us. The regional councils don't have that much power though as important decision are only made by the royal family. But I do not think that hijabs are a thing you must remove, because they allow people to express themselves in ways they seem fit, just as caps and hats do in the non-islamic world. Which could also be removed following your rhetoric.

Don't worry, be happy!
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User avatar #211 to #199 - infinitereaper (12/14/2015) [-]
There is no such thing as progress in religion, just slowly eroding and getting rid of religion, which is the true progress. And sure, you can express yourself however you want, but just like a guy who gets a tattoo on his face, I'm still going to call you a dumb ass.
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User avatar #212 to #211 - afterdelete (12/14/2015) [-]
I do think there is some sort of progress in religion, and what i mentioned earlier wasn't about progress in religion, but progress in islamic countries towards a more western society. Progress in religion will always be there since it is ever changing.
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User avatar #213 to #212 - infinitereaper (12/14/2015) [-]
A religion that changes is no longer the religion. It's literally proof that religion is stupid in the first place.
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User avatar #214 to #213 - afterdelete (12/14/2015) [-]
I wouldn't call it stupid, but interesting.
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User avatar #215 to #214 - infinitereaper (12/14/2015) [-]
Interesting fact: Muhammad was a confirmed pedophile and ****** a kid, albeit she "supposedly' had her first blood.
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User avatar #248 to #215 - afterdelete (12/15/2015) [-]
Well to be honest, that doesn't surprise me at all. In the middle-ages it was very common for people to marry and give birth at ages that we do not deem acceptable using modern standards.
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User avatar #249 to #248 - infinitereaper (12/15/2015) [-]
He was still a pedo tho also insane
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User avatar #250 to #249 - afterdelete (12/15/2015) [-]
If you compare now with the time of muhammed, almost everyone would be considered a pedo, but in their time it was only normal. The same goes for Europe.
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User avatar #251 to #250 - infinitereaper (12/15/2015) [-]
loll I don't care about pedos, my point is that you insane people rationalize ******** and refuse to face reality,the religion is garbage and ruining your people and the world
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User avatar #252 to #251 - afterdelete (12/15/2015) [-]
so i guess you do not like any religion?
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User avatar #253 to #252 - infinitereaper (12/15/2015) [-]
I don't like delusion, but buddishm or maybe something like shinto is perfectly tolerable. Buddhism has no god and is about lifestyle, shinto has a ******** of gods and spirits but its highly cultural. Jews, Christians and Muslims are all crazy following made up **** from fake ass prophets and old ass scrolls. They aren't even the oldest of religions.
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User avatar #254 to #253 - afterdelete (12/15/2015) [-]
Well, i do see where you want to go, and i agree that people shouldn't be following shouldn't be devoting their life to something that doesn't exist. But what does the age of religion have to do with their validity?

Oh and by the way, Judaism, together with Hinduism, are two of the oldest religions still practiced.
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#68 to #14 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
The threat of being ritually murdered if they don't helps, too.
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User avatar #193 to #14 - imalex (12/14/2015) [-]
only difference is the western girl can wear whatever she likes, the muslim one, not so much
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#80 to #14 - fragman (12/14/2015) [-]
There is nothing volountary in being forced to wear a hijab by the time you're 12 and letting yourself ******** into this being something empowering by feminists when you reach your 20s. Some don't fall in that category, but the vast majority does.

Here, watch Sarah Haider, an ex-Muslim talk about what a truly liberal father is in Islam and then try to sell me that nonsense again:
youtu.be/-WbhZgh2DPw?t=611
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User avatar #85 to #14 - theexplodingcheez (12/14/2015) [-]
the difference is, the white woman in the comic can wear whatever she wants; the Arab has no choice.
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#89 to #14 - narutolas ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Rrrrrrrrright. One of these women get beaten for not dressing this way (and it's totally legal in their home country). Can ya guess which woman it is?
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#130 to #89 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
What if its the one on the left
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User avatar #69 - emptysuperman (12/14/2015) [-]
Aren't rights about choice? If a woman chooses to be a stay at home mom and take care of her man, that's still her right. Saying it's not is like calling consensual BDSM rape.
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User avatar #94 to #69 - hwaraam (12/14/2015) [-]
well, taking into account that consensual sex is rape nowadays...
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#131 to #69 - elaxx (12/14/2015) [-]
Yes, that's what the feminism originally was about. So that woman isn't forced to stay at home because that's just "what women are supposed to do". But these nowadays pseudo-feminist femnazis would say that it wasn't her choice anyway. That she is being brainwashed by society, family or whatever into it.

This modern feminism is literally telling you what is wrong and what is right without letting you choose. Ironically it becomes a religion by itself. Except religion usually has some kind of integrity and tends not to change much.
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User avatar #72 - Izen (12/14/2015) [-]
thats ******
Je Suis Charlie was to empower parisians against radical islam
******* .... Je suis hibjabi
******* hell
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User avatar #151 - splendiddust ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
choosing to be oppressed and treated as objects is empowering right?? right?
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#77 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
If she chooses to wear a Hijab, she absolutely has the right to do so. Unfortunately, women who choose to wear face coverings are typically stuck somewhere between laws which force her to do so and activists who force her not to.
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User avatar #116 to #77 - pennydragon (12/14/2015) [-]
Activists like some other feminists? Some feminists who perhaps look at the hijab as piece of culture inspired by men to have women wear something denoting their obedience and humility effectively creating a feeling like you have to do it or be looked down upon (or worse) in some places.
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User avatar #217 to #116 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Yes?
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User avatar #200 to #77 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
if im an equalist
then why do feminists try to say im a feminist

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User avatar #216 to #200 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Egalitarian pet peeve

Because if I like the colours red, blue and brown. I still like the colour red. Egalitarianism promotes the equality of all races, ages, sexes, religions and so on. Which means egalitarianism promotes equality in all sexes. Which means they're partly a feminist.
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User avatar #237 to #216 - pennydragon (12/15/2015) [-]
If feminism is simply about the equality of the sexes, then anyone who believes in that is a full feminist whether they call themselves a feminist, men's rights advocate, anti-feminist, egalitarian, humanist, liberal, conservative, moderate, independent or what have you. If you believe that is all that feminism is then you'd say they're a full feminist.

But if feminism is a particular kind of egalitarianism with particular beliefs and thus it's not simply equality of the sexes, but about their own sometimes wrong, sometimes sexist vision of equality (and always supporting women first and foremost) which is set up as feminist and anything else is badwrong. Not that this is worse than everyone else, but feminists see themselves as the leaders of equality and above criticism when they're commonly flawed and often more sexist than the average person.

So either you view feminism as very open ended with one core tenant or you view it in a restrictive way. When you say they're "partly" feminist, does that mean you look at feminism as restricted to having a number of beliefs rather than just a belief in equality?

I don't have to associate myself with a group of people like feminists who I find to believe in stupid, hateful, hypocritical things. I don't see myself as partly feminist, I don't have to be part of a group just because I agree with some of their ideas if the group seems like garbage to me. Even if I agree with many ideas that feminists also have, I still disagree with many other messed up ideas they have and see a lot worth criticizing and changing about them.

It doesn't matter that you see yourself as reasonable, they see themselves as reasonable but they're really awful. Feminism doesn't represent equality it doesn't even have equal numbers it either excludes or repulses men, and it actively harasses and slimes men who do care about men's issues. Feminism represents women's fears and wishful thinking more than anything, not equality.
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User avatar #239 to #237 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]
First of all, the question was "why do they call me a feminist" not "why am I a feminist"

Secondly, you're saying you don't like being called a feminist because "feminism" stereotypes men. Which is a stereotype of feminism.

The thing is, these political beliefs are much like religion. There is a core set of beliefs and tenets, some take it to an extreme. We believe if we follow a certain lifestyle, promote certain behaviour, we'll make the world a better place.

I truly do not understand how someone who claims to be an egalitarian - someone who, in essence, is opposed to all stereotypy - can stereotype such a similar movement.
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User avatar #241 to #239 - pennydragon (12/15/2015) [-]
Okay, first point. The question was why do feminists call mexicandude a feminist if he/she is an "equalist".

You said egalitarianism promotes equality in all sexes which means you think they're partly feminist. So I asked if you view feminism in a restrictive way given that being for equality makes them "partly" feminist in your views.

Second point, no I didn't write that I disagree with feminism simply for stereotyping men. My disagreements go a lot further and have a great deal more nuance to them. I didn't write what you claim I did, so I think you were just trying to generalize my statements. Ironically. No I don't mean that all feminists are a certain way, but in my experience dealing with some feminists over years and years now there are notable numbers of feminist sexists and many who just say sexist things without knowing better but also usually without malice and ill will. It's not that this proves that all feminists are like that, it just shows some are.

It's not that all of them are like that or that I know what their numbers are, but feminists like that exist in numbers enough to agree with each other and effect me or others. You're acting like I'm wrong or even bad for mentioning others misdeeds, as if you subconsciously feel the people, nor the ideas, in your movement should never be criticized. But really, doesn't the responsibility lie on the people who did misdeeds not to do them, instead of on me to tolerate them and then... not even mention them? Isn't it upon feminists to have good ideas, rather than to stereotype people for finding fault in them?

By the way, it's not stereotyping to bring up problems that occur in feminism. . That it occurs often in my experiences (which aren't encompassing of all feminists obviously) and some feminists sometimes support it, up vote it, spread it around, and effect others over it means it's fair to criticize. It would be stereotyping to describe all feminists like that, to assume they're all like that, or to think others aren't like that in many groups, which I don't. It's not all feminists, not all men, not all black people, and so forth.

So can I criticize those in your movement who are sexist or are now you protective of sexists on your side? Can I criticize your movements ideas and either agree or disagree with them, or do you think there can never be a bad feminist idea and disagreement is a thoughtcrime?
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#261 to #241 - Mexicandude (01/09/2016) [-]
Is my doppelganger *********** again?
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User avatar #242 to #241 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]
Honestly, I know this is poor behaviour, but: I am currently sick. It is quite difficult for me to read such long sentences in such big paragraphs. If you want to continue this discussion in two to three days, feel free to hit me up. I just can't do it, today.
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User avatar #243 to #242 - pennydragon (12/15/2015) [-]
Sure, if you want to talk about it later we can continue discussing things then. I'm going to be busy anyway.

I hope you feel better soon.

If it's any consolation, even if I feel you misjudged me, I don't think you're necessarily a bad or unreasonable person. Everyone makes mistakes, myself most definitely included, and I don't judge you or feminists by some sort of different harder standard than everyone else. There are exceptions of course. When someone implies they're so much better than others, and they apply harsh standards to other people, then I think it's fair to apply their own harsh standards to them.
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User avatar #238 to #237 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]
Holy **** those are long sentences. Give me a sec.
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User avatar #244 to #238 - pennydragon (12/15/2015) [-]
Yeah, I think I didn't write that nearly as well as I was hoping. I'm sorry.

It's a subject that's arouses a great deal of emotional importance, has a lot of nuances, and expressing everything about it can be difficult. It can be easy to give the wrong, or unintended impression, and my writing certainly isn't the easiest or most clear.
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User avatar #245 to #244 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]
I have this problem. What I do is write something, then go through and replace all commas and "and"'s with a full stop. If it still makes sense, it stays.

Also try and keep your paragraphs to three lines (a publisher friend of mine told me this).
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#218 to #216 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
but when some dont want to be related to a specific movement, then doesnt it show that movement is a little cray cray

like i forgot the argument i was gonna make
oh well
gg no re

so why stop at feminism though, why not just go all the way and support every group
cause like gays are usually more oppressed
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User avatar #219 to #218 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
I do. I do support equality between all people. I am particularly passionate about religious freedom. However, somewhat selfishly, I care most about my rights. About the rights of fellow women, whom I can more easily empathise. So, because I don't represent all people equally, I tend to think it's unjust implying that I do.
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#220 to #219 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
not gonna lie
women who argue are pretty chill
plus your arguments actually make sense
compared to what i mostly hear from other feminists
props to you mate


crusade when?
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User avatar #221 to #220 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
When Hillary gets elected, we take the White House.

Jokes aside, thank you! The reason I am on FJ is to show people that I am a reasonable person. We do exist.
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#223 to #221 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
really? i was picturing you for more of a sanders person, but hey i respect your decision
but when emperor lord trump gets elected, the world will feel the freedoms and democracy

Its that most of the people here keep seeing those crazy ass tumblr posts and thats what we picture feminists like. I can honestly say youre like one of 3 feminists i have met that arent a bit crazy. you keep it g
youre like a unicorn with glasses and stuff

deport the mehicans
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User avatar #224 to #223 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Hahah I personally know one crazy feminist irl and I make a habit of gently destroying her **** opinions on facebook. I'm Australian, so tbh I don't really give a **** about any of your candidates. I did like how Obama was very aware of the youth voters, and I hope the new guy is equally so.
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#225 to #224 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
rekin people on facebook in public? lil savage arent you
i had an australian friend once, he introduced me to these like potatoes that were fried and had some white sauce

i just want to make america great again
dont like hillary tbh shes a bitch
So for me, Trump for the nationalist side
or sanders for the communist side

so either i get a nazi uniform or a red army uniform

i actually liked obama, seemed good and then kept letting me down
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User avatar #226 to #225 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
I don't think Trump is going to fulfil his election promises.. he'd have to convert the US to communism to do that, I think. However, the fact that he says such things, is a little dodgy to me.

You're gonna have to give me more details on those potatoes. A lot of original Australians were Irish, we have a lot of potato dishes. Probably fritters? It's the only thing I can think of that the US wouldn't have an equivalent of.
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#227 to #226 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
maybe theyre an american fair invention?

www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

like which promises do you think he wont fulfill?
well only half the country doesnt agree and the other half does, so i guess its up to congress and all that
but ehh, i agree with most (not all) the things his platform stands for. I wouldnt consider myself republican, but i kinda see the appeal to it. kinda weird coming from a mexican american right? i guess i got tired with hippies here in california
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User avatar #228 to #227 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
He can't ban a race, he can't increase border control, he definitely can't defund schools. He probably can't defund the us defence force, though I wouldn't mind that. Another problem I have is that his opinion changes a lot. Half of the stuff in this list contradicts itself.
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#229 to #228 - mexicandudeinsd ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
trust me it can be done
ww2, japanese americans were kept in camps to ensure they didnt pose a danger
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident
sure it wouldnt be the first option , but its possible

i live 5 mins away from the border, theyre seriously underfunded , and i've done a drive along and all that. And i dont care that people and other mexicans call me names, for pointing out that trump was right when saying bad stuff crosses the border. Drugs, weapons, and people. Heck i have a friend who "works smuggling people into the usa" , and sure, most of them are here to work and for a better life, but we cant ignore that criminals and other dangerous people cross. Like, in europe, some refugees were terrorists.
I wouldnt mind lowering the military spending, the usa shouldnt be world police.
Education spending should be increased to compete with other countries.

like i said, i agree on most issues, not all of them
ehh he just keep becoming more of a savage
i think he does it for the lols tbh
but i rather take him than a communist guy (even tho sanders has a good idea here and there)

in any case, the usa will be ****** , between a rock and a hard place
russia is always a choice
removing kebab and squatting
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User avatar #230 to #229 - thirdjess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
To be fair, Australia has one of the strictest border controls in the world. We have an offshore camp that is not dissimilar to Auschwitz. But we don't racially profile people and let the white guys in. We send everyone who tries to enter Australia illegally to Christmas Island. They serve a two year sentence, which includes learning about Australia, and depending on current population, they either get let in legally or sent back home.
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#150 - europe (12/14/2015) [-]
Soon they're gonna join harems or something and promote it as empowerment
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#75 - levvy (12/14/2015) [-]
Muslims in Russia never dress like this - Nor do they force their views on people.

All the ones I have met are respectful and productive members of society. They are even peacful with Orthodox Christians and Jews. Some Chechens get pissed but after 2009 they just ****** off (many joined ISIS). The Soviet style laws worked. So well the the Muslism extreamsts never have ****** with Russia becasue of this.

Only NATO satellite states like Turkey do that. Then hide behind the EU and Amerika for killing their ISIS allys.
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User avatar #170 to #75 - therealtjthemedic (12/14/2015) [-]
So, your idea of a 'good' muslim is just a white one? Is it muslims you dislike, or arabs?
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#107 to #75 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
That is the most ******** comment I've ever seen. Russia massacred countless Muslims thought history and yet Russia doesn't even have the balls to admit that they were genocides. The image itself is biased and created solely for the purpose of instigating a flame war.
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User avatar #109 to #107 - Sunset (12/14/2015) [-]
"doesn't even have the balls"

this is what eurocucks literally believe
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User avatar #78 to #75 - failtolawl (12/14/2015) [-]
Muslims in Russia don't dress like that because it's illegal to...
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#81 to #78 - levvy (12/14/2015) [-]
"Soviet style laws worked"

The Government banned religious extremism, not just muslim. The hijab is banned allong with many muslim books. Russia is not flooded with refugees - and can still fly a Russian flag without being called a rascist.

You can't argue with that.
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User avatar #105 to #81 - sausydangles (12/14/2015) [-]
Killing yourself would be pretty productive
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#138 to #81 - battlebrotherfox ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
"The hijab is banned in Russia"
Lies.
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#247 to #234 - battlebrotherfox ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]
Oh come on. There is a enormous difference between illegal in Russia and illigal in SCHOOLS of TWO federal subjects(together they have four times less population than Moscow).
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#160 to #78 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Or, alternatively, because the hijab is actually an Arab thing and not a Muslim thing and none of the Muslims in Russia are Arabs.
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#124 to #75 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
Islam is already formed for modern society. It is some Muslims and government that are yet to do so.
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#29 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
>#JeSuisHijabi
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I don't even know right now. **** this gay earth.
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#88 - itskennyandjosh ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
**itskennyandjosh used "*roll picture*"**
**itskennyandjosh rolled image**She can wear a hijab in school but if i wear a hoodie in school i get detention
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#114 to #88 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
well one is an officially classified religious garment and the other is not.

so since freedom of religion is protected, you could try wearing the religious headgear yourself if you want to cover your head so badly.

i wonder what kind of ********* would brew if a student was punished for wearing some large religious headgear like the size of a bishop's mitre?
or simply the religious headgear of the opposite gender?
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User avatar #1 - gypsydude ONLINE (12/13/2015) [-]
It went so left that its wrapping around to being right
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#73 to #1 - Zaxplab (12/14/2015) [-]
Horseshoe theory, dude. When you're too much of a one-sided mewling little retard, you are bound to say something so stupid that your worst enemy will agree with you.

SJW's and Stormfags would both argue that whites should not be allowed to adopt black kids.
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User avatar #79 to #73 - checkemninja (12/14/2015) [-]
I never really remembered /pol/ attempting to censor sjw's,they just laugh them out
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User avatar #171 to #79 - therealtjthemedic (12/14/2015) [-]
Every single /pol/lack on FJ has me blocked.
As do they block anyone who disagrees with them. All this does is stop them from thumbing down their posts and calling them out.
They create their own little circlejerks, unwilling (or unable) to defend their viewpoint and prove its merit.
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#93 to #79 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
You're talking to an sjw
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User avatar #67 - timmywankenobi (12/14/2015) [-]
I guess were all just gonna ignore the fact like 60% of women who wear the hi jab etc are forced to do so under pain of death ?

I know I never feel more empowered then when the society I live in tells me to wear a certain garment or they'll murder me.
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#92 to #67 - innocentbabies (12/14/2015) [-]
And there are plenty of countries in which it is banned to some extent. Is that, somehow, more okay than requiring it? I'm not talking about the punishment, the countries that don't allow the wearing of the hijab don't punish it to nearly the extent that some of the groups that require head coverings do. I'm talking about the principle of banning it.
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User avatar #176 to #92 - timmywankenobi (12/14/2015) [-]
"And there are plenty of countries in which it is banned to some extent. " - there are countries where it is banned to some extent because the countries that killed women for not wearing it existed first, and these more free countries were disgusted by this and so semi-banned the garbs as a form of revolt against the countries that kill or used to kill women for not wearing it. The hi-jab is a symbol of oppression for millions of women and girls.
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#132 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
I'm not trying to be a ******* but the mere fact that in modern societies, women are striving to let a company hire them to work their ass off, is exactly the same thing: women fighting themselves a struggle to lose their rights.

Somewhere along the way, society made women think they were being exploited by men, and exhorted them to fight for their right to be free from men. How? By being exploited by capitalism. Since then, women are fighting to double the workforce of a single nation (since men were already working), fighting to double the taxes paid by a single household, and of course fighting to feed consumerism.

The only difference is that we made women think that they were conquering their freedom while they're just submitting themselves to a whole other kind of slavery. Muslims are merely trying to hide the sexual assets of their women so that someone else would not try to **** her (or at least that's how I see this tradition, since I don't really believe the creator of the universe gives two ***** about what's on your head), so it's not that bad.

ps: and yes I post as anon, who would give their opinion without hiding?
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#26 - scruffyguy (12/14/2015) [-]
When you realize that feminism created by Jews is meant to destroy the white family, it all makes sense.

"Marine Le Pen called the French population to “make French children” as a response to “a considerable immigration”. Alert! The fascist epidemic transforms into STD and try to contaminate our vaginas. As a serum, Femen sextremists call all the French women to kiss, to suck, be licked, to wank, to stick fingers in, to pump, to **** as many foreigners as they can before the European elections. We count on you to have many multicolors buns in your ovens! Femen gives the starting signal of the international marathon of sex! Cosmopolitan France will win against FN mafia! ! FOREIGNERS **** BETTER !"
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#141 to #26 - anon (12/14/2015) [-]
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#120 to #26 - tanitakavirius (12/14/2015) [-]
sigh.... Go back to pol please.
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#126 to #120 - scruffyguy (12/14/2015) [-]
So.., you dont believe what you read in that picture was real?
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#134 to #126 - tanitakavirius (12/14/2015) [-]
I don't really support what the Femen say and do, as it's mostly for shock and attention.
But that first sentence of yours.... The stormfag is strong with you.
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#175 to #134 - scruffyguy (12/14/2015) [-]
Well, I'll drop the jew part and ask you this: Do you think women are stupid and that's why feminism "contradicts" itself? Or do you think it is just anti-white and women aren't actually stupid.
IQ tests show that women are not, in fact, stupid. Feminism however, contradicts itself in many ways.
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User avatar #179 to #175 - tanitakavirius (12/14/2015) [-]
There are contradicting branches and beliefs in most movements, this includes feminism. I don't know what ideology you personally follow, but the right wing movements are quite eclectic : neo-nazis, neo-confederate, white supremacists, fundamentalist Christians, etc. And they may contradict each other.

I consider myself feminist and I don't agree with this post from the Femen, and as I said in the previous comment I think it wasn't meant to be taken literally. I don't agree with most of the "SJW" thing, especially the overly politically correct thing, but I'm against the bullying coming from the "anti-sjw".
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#185 to #179 - scruffyguy (12/14/2015) [-]
I've simply rarely seen feminists criticize non-whites, except for the rare occasion that a non-white feminist does it. This is especially strange in light of the fact that most male-on-female abuse is committed by blacks in America. Not to mention islam and all it's hijab **** .
When i say feminist, I basically mean second wave and onward.
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User avatar #76 to #26 - peezle (12/14/2015) [-]
Sign me up.
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#172 to #26 - therealtjthemedic (12/14/2015) [-]
"ITS DA JEWZ!"
"WHITE GENOCIDE"
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#147 - datgermanguy (12/14/2015) [-]
Can only associate her with the word Empowered, sorry.
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#145 - sirquidam ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
Holy **** , so many people defending multiple sides of the subject here. Let's be clear, there is no perfect black and white on this but it's not that difficult to understand. Allow me to explain. In some countries where Islam is a strong religion with huge following, women do not have much choice over what they do if they are born in a Muslim family. This is the problem that needs to be addressed, people should be allowed to stop following a religion if they dislike it. Now for the real struggle, most Muslims are strongly faithful to their religion and will scorn anybody who seem to disregard their holy beliefs. Often, they will single the people who leave their religion out, disown them, hurt them, and/or even kill them. All of that just because a woman doesn't want to wear a damn hijab. Wearing them isn't the issue, it's Muslim women that doesn't want to wear them. Most of friendly Muslim people I've seen are pretty flexible with their beliefs, as most major religious people are. If I offended anybody with my comment, I'm not sorry. This is truth.
Holy **** , so many people defending multiple sides of the subject here.

Let's be clear, there is no perfect black and white on this but it's not that difficult to understand. Allow me to explain.

In some countries where Islam is a strong religion with huge following, women do not have much choice over what they do if they are born in a Muslim family. This is the problem that needs to be addressed, people should be allowed to stop following a religion if they dislike it. Now for the real struggle, most Muslims are strongly faithful to their religion and will scorn anybody who seem to disregard their holy beliefs. Often, they will single the people who leave their religion out, disown them, hurt them, and/or even kill them.

All of that just because a woman doesn't want to wear a damn hijab. Wearing them isn't the issue, it's Muslim women that doesn't want to wear them. Most of friendly Muslim people I've seen are pretty flexible with their beliefs, as most major religious people are.

If I offended anybody with my comment, I'm not sorry. This is truth.
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User avatar #128 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
I mean
wearing one isnt losing any rights

its the ones who get beat up when they don't
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#95 - neoraed (12/14/2015) [-]
but modern feminists cant conver to islam.
pork is haram remenber?
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