Religious/Political Posts. .. i wish that everyone was agnostic...
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#3 - norwegianlolz (03/31/2014) [-]
i wish that everyone was agnostic...
User avatar #4 to #3 - rokulda (03/31/2014) [-]
That would probably be a somewhat peaceful world. Political conflicts would not disappear, however.
User avatar #6 to #3 - goodcheese (03/31/2014) [-]
reptilian bird is redundant.....
User avatar #11 to #3 - YllekNayr (03/31/2014) [-]
I agree.

People, understand that agnosticism or gnosticism are states of how sure you are that your belief is correct.

A "Gnostic theist" is totally 100% sure can't be wrong that his religion is right.
A "Gnostic atheist" is totally 100% sure can't be wrong that there are no gods.

An "Agnostic anything" leaves room for doubt.
#36 to #11 - tomjay (03/31/2014) [-]
Hey, could you maybe go look up "gnostic"? You're kinda using it wrong there, buddy.

I'm sorry, it just annoys me to see it so often used in the wrong context
User avatar #58 to #36 - YllekNayr (03/31/2014) [-]
No. This is correct.
#59 to #58 - tomjay (03/31/2014) [-]
Thanks for the thumb down.

Anyway no, it's not correct. If you took 4 goddamn seconds of your life, you would find out that "gnostic" is not an adjective concerning the dogmatic nature of religions, but that it concerns a religion on it's own that rose up during the early days of christianity and was later (300 AD) pronounced a heresy and most of it was destroyed, along with the ones who believed in it.

Even the term "gnostic" in that context is considerably older, considering that it comes from greek word "gnosis" which means knowledge and is fundamental cornerstone of gnosticism. The term agnosticism wasn't coined until 19th century.
User avatar #60 to #59 - YllekNayr (03/31/2014) [-]
I didn't profess knowledge about the origin of the word. I'm stating its current use and definition.
#61 to #60 - tomjay (03/31/2014) [-]
It's currently used to coin that specific religion. You wouldn't have anyone with any basic academic knowledge of this problematic saying "gnostic christian" while thinking of dogmatic christian. People on funnyjunk use it wrong and I try to correct that. But it seems like you don't like being corrected, no matter the context, so I withdraw from this discussion.
User avatar #62 to #61 - YllekNayr (04/01/2014) [-]
I have done my research prior to posting on Funnyjunk.
User avatar #56 to #3 - obsidicus (03/31/2014) [-]
I'm glad that you acknowledge your religious/spiritual uncertainty. I have plenty of uncertainty as well. While I believe in Jesus as my savior, I recognize that the Bible, while helpful in spiritual matters that do not change, is not correct in everything, especially science for instance, if you read it the right way, the earth is flat and stars are incredibly small points of light that are not that far away . So while I still believe in God, I have a lot of other things to work through.

For instance, the saving of other people throughout history and across the world. That is something that is difficult to reconcile. But I feel peace in worshiping God so i can't deny that either.
User avatar #7 to #3 - tkfourtwoone (03/31/2014) [-]
And I wish less people were fence-sitters. Can't really have it our way, right?

P.S.: I for one apply Occam's Razor regarding religion (well, I use it as a general rule of thumb in many situations, but still):
- Either you give credit to each and every religion, trying to figure out which one of them is the most close to the truth (taking into account their origin, age, history, etc), complicating things a whole lot, since you will have to try and justify each and every one
- Or you apply the most simple solution, that NO religion is true and the human mind simply created "god"

Or, in the words of Trey Parker & Matt Stone: "Either all of it is OK... or none of it is"
#14 to #7 - llanox (03/31/2014) [-]
"Fence sitter" is kind of an inaccurate term in this context. An agnostic is, by definition, someone who believes there isn't enough evidence to prove that there is or isn't a god. Which sort of means they've decided and are sure that they cannot know as of yet.
#37 to #7 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you DIDN'T read and try to understand almost any of the religious texts that have existed for hundreds of generations. I'm gonna go ahead and say you just discredited all of them, since by your own admission, it was less complicated.
#47 to #37 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
dis muthaf*cka no wuts up.
User avatar #15 to #7 - llanox (03/31/2014) [-]
Oh, and I forgot to mention: life isn't all black and white. In fact the majority of it is grey area. You can't always pick a side--sometimes you have to make your own (i.e. choosing to not be theist or atheist, but instead agnosti).
User avatar #16 to #15 - tkfourtwoone (03/31/2014) [-]
Most aspects of life ARE black & white (such as the laws of physics... or facts, in general). Things start to be ambiguous when principles & morality come into play.

And the FACT is that religion IS made up by people. The different gods from different mythologies have the same solid ground backing their existence up as Santa Claus. WE invented Santa Claus (almost regardless of the historical character) and we pretend he exists for our satisfaction & enjoyment.

And I really do hope you know what Occam's Razor principle is
#17 to #16 - llanox (03/31/2014) [-]
I realize what the occam's razor principle implies/means, however I still disagree with your quote and reasoning of "Either you give credit to each and every religion, trying to figure out which one of them is the most close to the truth, complicating things a whole lot, since you will have to try and justify each and every one or you apply the most simple solution, that NO religion is true and the human mind simply created 'god'".Because a solution is simpler doesn't mean it's the better solution. In order to get the most accurate viewpoint on things, you have to try to see things from other perspectives (which means considering possibilities such as a certain god or gods existing).
I realize what the occam's razor principle implies/means, however I still disagree with your quote and reasoning of "Either you give credit to each and every religion, trying to figure out which one of them is the most close to the truth, complicating things a whole lot, since you will have to try and justify each and every one or you apply the most simple solution, that NO religion is true and the human mind simply created 'god'".Because a solution is simpler doesn't mean it's the better solution. In order to get the most accurate viewpoint on things, you have to try to see things from other perspectives (which means considering possibilities such as a certain god or gods existing).
User avatar #19 to #17 - tkfourtwoone (03/31/2014) [-]
"Because a solution is simpler doesn't mean it's the better solution"

In most cases... it is. And, mind you, we're not talking about the "better" solution, but the "correct" solution.

User avatar #51 to #19 - darealnugget (03/31/2014) [-]
"u no not wut u talk bout" - unknown i 4got dis dude name who sed dis
#39 to #19 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
Because tkfourtwoone gets frustrated if he doesn't hold all the answers. "It's too complicated, with many facets we're not sure about." Complicated + unknown = disregard.
User avatar #20 to #19 - llanox (03/31/2014) [-]
I assumed better and correct were synonyms in this context.
User avatar #49 to #16 - darealnugget (03/31/2014) [-]
aint no such things as facts. only interpratashuns - Nietschze
#38 to #16 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
Ok, Occam's Razor is a philosophy. It's not a fact or anything, it's simply a way to say the least complicated answer is often correct. That's literally all it is. Something to help you problem solve, not some infallible concept. It's the same as saying "when you hear hoof beats, think horses and not zebras".
#5 to #3 - kibbleking (03/31/2014) [-]
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#12 to #3 - davyjoneslocker (03/31/2014) [-]
Refreshing
#13 to #3 - llanox (03/31/2014) [-]
I love you.

Take this picture as a token of said love.
#25 to #13 - marstan (03/31/2014) [-]
Why not the whole thing?
#28 to #13 - norwegianlolz (03/31/2014) [-]
take this gif as an token of my gratitude
take this gif as an token of my gratitude
#24 - mrsnowballs (03/31/2014) [-]
Take this before commenting
Take this before commenting
User avatar #26 to #24 - snakesniper (03/31/2014) [-]
No thanks I have one in white already, thanks anyway though.
#41 to #24 - Loppytaffy (03/31/2014) [-]
Okay, I think I got it. (Please excuse the only fedora picture I have in my arsenal)

So, I think we should just accept that everyone thinks that they are right from where they are standing, and no amount of argueing and bitching will change that. The only way we can make them work together is by not being so egotistical to believe that their view is the only right one.
#22 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
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#43 to #22 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
Fag pit
#34 - SognaVetr ONLINE (03/31/2014) [-]
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User avatar #8 - telmerthisisasix (03/31/2014) [-]
Being gay is a choice.
#23 to #8 - jazzytheferret (03/31/2014) [-]
being a dick is a choice.
#46 to #23 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
ay yo f*ck yo b*tch ass mane.
#45 to #8 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
ay yo i agree mane. sum ppl jus dont get it. but u and i, we get it. der is always a choice.
#52 to #8 - buriedstpatrick (03/31/2014) [-]
Why can't it both be an inherited AND socially affected trait?
User avatar #53 to #8 - liftplus ONLINE (03/31/2014) [-]
I'm bi i dis-agree i think sexuality can be caused through any thing choice, birth, genetic, puberty, etc i've always been attracted to both sexes
#32 to #8 - megashot ONLINE (03/31/2014) [-]
User avatar #27 to #8 - magickarcher (03/31/2014) [-]
I'm gay myself, and I somewhat agree with you.
User avatar #21 to #8 - tylosaurus (03/31/2014) [-]
I agree.
User avatar #42 to #8 - Loppytaffy (03/31/2014) [-]
So when did you choose to be straight?
User avatar #29 to #8 - xXCorpitoXx ONLINE (03/31/2014) [-]
I don't get it anymore
Ive heard:
"Being gay is not a choice. Some people are born gay"
"I became lesbian cuz i'm sick of men"
"I once had a gay phase in college."
People just say whatever the **** they want
User avatar #9 to #8 - chandaman (03/31/2014) [-]
Being a troll is a choice.
#30 to #9 - John Cena (03/31/2014) [-]
Says the troll.
User avatar #54 - liftplus ONLINE (03/31/2014) [-]
my perfect world
>no religion
>socialism
>equal rights for all
>democratic voting system like new zealands Parliament
>one world economy
>one language (english)
>no wars due to the world being united but has it's countries still in a more Provence/state system
>25% spent on free health care 25% - education (free) 25% - space colonization 25% - other (except military spending which is basically just national guard now)


#55 - caffeinecommissar (03/31/2014) [-]
What did you say about my country! >
#50 - emberstar (03/31/2014) [-]
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User avatar #57 to #50 - obsidicus (03/31/2014) [-]
i have never wanted to be a cat... until now.
#44 - ineedturtles ONLINE (03/31/2014) [-]
**ineedturtles rolled image**
source ?
User avatar #40 - Loppytaffy (03/31/2014) [-]
I'm okay with religious people, as long as they realise that their god is not the only one, and their's no way to prove that one is more real than the other.
#33 - masterboll (03/31/2014) [-]
is the guy at the front trying to swim or something?
#2 - robertito (03/31/2014) [-]
I'm gonna need source on the original video.
User avatar #18 to #2 - fuzzybutt (03/31/2014) [-]
Any Wall of Death at.. any Metal Concert really..
#1 - karnovski (03/30/2014) [-]
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