That's what pisses me off, they're going in front of the ********* and bitching about people getting called mean names online. These people are gathered to talk about ******* wars, ************* genocides and ******** , for those of you not in the know there are genocides going on right now, multiple ones to rival the Holocaust, and these bitches are complaining about getting their feelings hurt,
you wouldn't bang her because she's pretty. you'd bang her because you hate her.
it's a common thing. for instance, i had a coworker which i despised. i wanted to **** her brains out even though she wasn't all that good looking
>FJ community
>Zoe Quinn is bad, therefore it is impossible for there to be any qualities that could be construed as good
You're actually no different from the people who demonize you if you say 'Hitler was pretty charismatic', solely because he was Hitler. Just because he was the root cause of millions of deaths, doesn't mean he didn't have good qualities.
Meh. I'd ejaculate on her face if she was tied up. I'd have to dispose of her body afterwards though. And I also wouldn't touch her disease-ridden pussy.
I really don't get it, on her nudes she has a face like a mules' ass, yet in every other picture I've seen of her she actually looks somewhat decent I have a thing for chicks with colored hair, unfortunately
Really ******* confused why everyone gives a **** what they look like. Last I checked they were **** people ruining the world. Just give them the attention they're whoring for why don't you.
Bro, don't **** them You don't stick your dick in crazy, and Sarkesian and Quinn are about as crazy and it gets. And evil, in fact, probably mostly just evil.
They aren't really crazy, just very manipulative. They promote crazy ideals, not because they actually believe in them, but because it brings them attention and that attention brings them money from the people who are actually crazy. Crazy people generally think that they are doing the right thing and I am almost certain that these two know they are doing the the world a massive disservice but continue it because they are making a ton of money and don't give a **** about anything but themselves. Their actions are not progressive in any way and actually are widening a rift between men and women that was slowly closing before they came on the scene, but it's alright as long as they keep getting attention.
Not really. Sociopaths generally have trouble with right and wrong and will sometimes do something, maybe knowing it's wrong but not understanding why or not knowing it is wrong at all. This can be seen with some serial killers who target certain people they believe the world would be better without, quite often prostitutes, and convince themselves that they are actually doing some good despite it being illegal. Obviously this is not the case with all serial killers, but some of them truly believe what they do/did is the right thing to do.
Nothing is going to happen.
Just stop giving them media attention.
Your controversial reaction is what makes them trendy and a profitable source of drama to publicize.
Trust me, it's a battle not worth fighting since it completely relies on your responsive to keep going.
well actually , i was thinking bout this, i figured we need someone to steal their media attention.. then they fall and we shall rise. i dont know , maybe a group of women from all over who have to live in less dignified surroundings, these people will represent actual problems and make the dumb ones seem like children... but who is the chosen ones...?
oh oh , maybe if they were puppets or some **** , and then when everyone is following our new group, we can expose them as puppets and thats the day media will rebuild itself
...i have a bright future ahead of me , soon as i stop getting high....
I think we already went beyond the phase in which mentioning their name would actually really do anything. They're at the UN, they're already getting tons of coverage. Might as well make them look like idiots.
This. It's like with trolls, they feed off your attention. The reason why feminists get to do this sort of thing is because we pay attention to it and therefore the newspapers or TV channels make money. Just ignore it and it will go away, stop making a big deal about feminism.
THANK YOU! It would be absolutely impossible for them to get any response from the United Nations (which, to be honest, have NOTHING to do with feminism as is). I'm studying in this field, and only some media attention is what keeps them going. Look at Justin Bieber, we stopped giving him any attention and now he's dead. Just let them go.
They got there because of trolls and said it was us, regardless if we reacted to it or not. I'm not saying they're gonna succeed, but the media is always looking for martyrs. Regardless of Whether their plights actually happend.
But that's just it. Regardless of how we act, they will lie about it, and will never have to prove it because of trolls. I'm in agreement that we shouldn't troll. But it is borderline pointless at this point but to be loud so we can have a chance to be heard.
Yeah they can lie, so let's not give them proof by not acting like what they're projecting us to be like.
It's just like with Ferguson; people get offended about a real tragedy, get called stereotypes, and then allow their anger to turn them into a visual representation of the stereotype.
Yes you can.
On the internet, no one can hurt you.
You can press the off button. People get bored without a response or an antagonist to yell back at them. They are fighting an 'enemy', and as long as that 'enemy' fights back, they will stay focused.
All you have to do is laugh, and walk away.
So unless you are being personally doxxed, or assasinated, all they can do is bark all day on and circlejerk among themselves until unemployment takes away their internet, and have to learn to co-exist with society if they want to be able to use the tool used for amplifying their 'underdog hero' complex.
I understand and agree with you if this were any other circumstance, you would be right. But this isn't . this isn't about the words that are are being spoken. But who people pretend to be while saying them. That is why we need to loud(not troll). In hope the words are heard and become more powerful then the lie. Especially if that lie is more than willing to jeopardize your freedom.
I do not fear death, but never having lived in the first place.
Well, as long as there are fewer trolls, the more quickly this will approach the unprofitable margin for news reporters to distribute. WIthout the media, the social terrorism group is nothing as the audience shrinks.
The group will try to revolt and reinstate itself with more extreme acts, which will be the final closing door on their public 'credibility'
Well, giving it less to burn works just as well.
Throwing dirt over it may just cause it to burn even brighter with whatever leaves or sticks that may come with it.
There will be people who yell back anyways so a few more or less doesn't make a difference. Yelling back is just as pointless as holding back thinking that they will stop as a result. They know that they hit people in the weak spot and get feedback on that. Even if they wouldn't get their feedback, they wouldn't just stop right away if at all. Just like a bully won't stop just because you act like you ignore him. They know better than that. They do it no matter whether you yourself will also yell back. So rather than not trying to yell back its better to not let it affect you too much personally. Its better to talk back rather than yelling back though. And if people want to others on their own side they can do that, they won't add fuel to the fire as long as they do it properly. Pretty much noone neutral would see MundaneMatt or Sargon, given that they listen long enough, as harassers or what these people would like them to be seen as. While yelling back is pointless i don't think talking back is. It's obvious that many of these people are crazy and if you manage to get them -through rational discussion- to the point to out themselves as crazy towards their then hopefully ex-followers you might make these people question a bit more of the hateful message that they got from there to begin with. They won't completly abandon it but maybe they turn a little bit more moderate. And while its very unlikely that such a mindset causes macroscopic impact people in positions of little power, parents, teachers, or everyone who considers their time well spent when they harass people based on one of their many reasons to hate people it still causes harm to alot of people. It will always be there and we can't fight it but we can at least reduce the impact by trying to talk the ones we can into sense back again.
Well i want to clarify that i don't think people are obliged to fight them, the first thing i said was no matter what the individuals do, whether its a bit more or less resistance for SJW or however you wish to call them, they will keep doing what they do either way. I don't think, at least within the more conviced circles, that we can affect anyone to make a 180° turn but i think if we give them an enemey to argue against we can make them speak out their opinions more. Alot of them are crazy, hostile and hateful. If we properly challenge their views we might make one or two of them move a step too far to keep their own support and public image. When Sarkeesian was at the colbert report she didn't deny that videogames don't make people violent. Now she does. As these people grow increasingly confident in their support within their group they will push more and more of their borderline viewpoints and at some point loose their support again. When these people shout at the straight white cis male who has a good job they are united. The moment we challenge them to a discussion and to unfold their entire viewpoints we get a great chance to amplify the destruction of the unity of these self perceived minorities of power. And the trolls will be there no matter what. It is better to have a few trolls and lots of reasonable people who argue rather than having a few trolls only. These people like having their viewpoints reinforced by having enemies and friends. There are the good guys and the bad guys. When you join in and neither hostile nor friendly towards them while still challenging their views at least a part of them have to admit that the world isn't entirely black and white. At least thats how i see it. Your idea of ignoring them into nonexistance would make sense if most of the people who are engaged in these sort of subjects would stop. But by now there is a point of no return, there are enough trolls and similar people who won't stop to keep this alive. Best way to destroy it is to let it kill itself. Just being the good guy who walks away won't make others walk away either. Letting air out of a baloon is a good way to have it decrease in size but when that thing is big enough you might just pump more into it until it bursts.
A reasonable perspective, but i just feel that adding less to it is the only way to improve the situation. That group benefits from controversy because it widens the audience.
When you talk money then i totally agree. Everyone who stops listening to them, watching them, associating with them is less ad revenue, less public attention, less income. Though I think rather than trying to not have their support increase we have to reduce it. Not financially, what i mean is their mindset. There is a bigger problem with that mindset than just Social Justice Warriors. There are lots of people who see even small events in a societal context. "Beating up white people is fine because they did much more to my race than mine did to them". "Discriminating against men is impossible because they have power in our society". Basically an "us versus them mentality". These mindsets are bigger than just the people who identify as SJW. They cause more trouble than SJW. Every single one of them that we turn more moderate is one that might affect the other ones he/she knows. Mindsets are a slippery slope. People simply affect each other. Thats why we have as cruel things as genocides and why people are fine with killing for their religion. But whenever someone does a bad deed towards a "class enemey" (now using commie language, its not a too different phenomenon after all) they might question their own righteousness and other people choose or don't choose to support it. I am not talking about killing or similar crimes. Someone who does these sorts of things doesn't just get convinced when their favourite youtuber is suddenly unpopular. What i mean are teachers who teach that "toxic masculinity has to be eradicated". Parents that treat their children badly because they are male. People who try to get others fired. When a stranger tells them that they are wrong they don't care. But when their own friends who used to share these mindsets see their friends as "too extreme", they might get affected. When their role models get too extreme for these friends, they might also start questioning other people whoose actions they approved of earlier. No matter what one does the effect is probably little and one might go either way i suppose and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. When these things get to one personally i strongly recommend just trying to ignore the entire thing. But trying to reduce this mindset, even to a little extent is a good thing to do. I don't think people grabbing power to systematically fight, discriminate against or in any other way cause disadvantages for the "class enemies" is going to happen to a great extent. Some affirmative action here and there, but nothing big. Still, individuals will get affected in their everyday life and everything we can do to stop this witch hunt culture is a good start.
A better way to put the situation is that people like Anita are purposely baiting trolls and then calling sexism, and blaming Innocent people for it. And couple that with ethically corupt media system and surplus of wanna be world leaders is recipe for disaster. So just walking a way will do jacksquat in this situation.
I hope this put my stance on the matter in better perception.
Eh. There's a never ending supply of them, actually. All they have to do is dip their finger into the pool of idiots that the Internet consists of and they'll bite. One or two of us walking away changes nothing. Not for them.
Life doesn't always work in slippery slopes.
Your response is necessary for them to continue.
This is why we are surrounded by 4 walls and speak to neither of them.
Yes, but those trolls are people like ourselves that can't help but feel the need to respond because of the slippery slope argument.
So... the fewer, the better.
There is a threshold of stagnation.
The matter is simple
if your government cares more about managing the people then helping it then it is not a good government
and they have bullied us and turned us weak over a very long time span
100 years ago if someone was this corrupt someone would of shot them
but do you know why no one has shot people like her?
because she is helping the government control you
a man chooses a slave obeys
and guess what that makes you all
Or here is an opinion of someone who doesn't agree with either sjw's or gg fags. The ones who are the slaves are the ones wrapped in in the argument of which side is wrong. Hmmmmmm and here I am voting for people I am studying to make a brighter future for everyone and not just one side. plus unlike all the band wagon gg fags on this site I actually know that the UN has nothing to do with laws and how they are made other then international issues
Wow Sperit, feeling a bit mean today? Forget about the politics, go eat a Snickers, and I hope you feel better soon. Hope this gif makes you feel better.
Sad part is, not even that would help. Infact it would probally make things worse. Let us say Me and you took her out. Bang she is dead, and out of our lives forever, but wait, what is that? It is every single news outlet out there making her a martyr. Placing her at a point where she can no longer be held accountable by her actions, but yet they will focus on what she stood for, and against, and thus her ideals have become in essence her. (not worded very nicely but I am unsure how to phrase the last bit.)
She, and we are far better off where she is now, making more and more of an ass for herself, until not even the media will pay her any mind because the majority of the public has become bored with her and her silly ideals.
The corrupt people from 100 years ago were never shot. They became wealthy and influential business tycoons, lawyers, and politicians who spent their twilight years sloughing off enough money on the side to philanthropy to make everybody forget how corrupt they were. Anybody who was shot was probably not corrupt enough.
People only abide by the law until it becomes too inconvenient. Going out and murdering somebody who has done nothing to your personally is too extreme, while killing somebody who has broken into your home is justified. Besides, yeah they're corrupt, but one of the bigger reasons we hate them is because we disagree with them. Rightfully so, yes, but wanting them dead? That makes us no better than the cave-dwellers in the middle-east.
It does not really matter because the UN's laws need 2/3 support from senate to be passed in the US.
If this was not the case, I would not own as many weapons.
They are celebrities speaking at the UN mostly because of STUPID people like you that get triggered easily by this feminist trolls and post everywhere CHILDISH hateful comments and EMPTY death threats that only validates their femi-nazi delusions.
Seeing this stuff always makes me very sad. It reminds me how far we've fallen.
A few generations back they fought WWII then came home and started raising families. There was hardly a complaint, they just did it.
And here we are today, where we are incapable of handling people saying mean things to us on the internet. I don't even know if it'd be possible for us to fight the wars our ancestors fought not too long ago.
It's kinda ironic how our success and our excesses have made us soft and weak. And nobody cares.
The only thing that has changed is the tech.
people were stupid back in the day, but they were stupid alone.
now we get to be stupid in public and still feel alone.
I won't argue that they were smarter or whatever, but they didn't have this safe-space culture. The notion of "safe spaces" and "trigger warnings" would have been entirely ludicrous.
They had rioting in the 50s after the first skin flick.... you don't think we've gotten passed some full frontal nudity? the only difference and I'll say again, is that the idiots have a voice, and the idiots get loud when no one listens to them. the smart ones shut up and do nothing, letting their enemies float down the river.
I don't believe what's happening to be quarantined to the vocal minority.
It's a bit different than cultural sensitivity to sexuality.
They've been making progress on pushing this stuff into the culture for a long time now. The point is, I don't think we have what it takes to do what's necessary when and if times get tough.
Like I said. be a passerby. don't get involved with human garb, be a person worth moving the evolutionary chain forward. we went through dozens of evolution over the past 12000 years, but we got stuck at about 2000 years ago. people aren't really getting any better because all of our needs are met externally. We achieve homeostasis and don't realize that the chaos was more regulating. that maybe it was what we wanted all along.
There are girls in Africa who get their clitoris cut off because of some ****** up religious reason.
But yet the UN wants to hear from people who made big bucks bashing people who really didn't deserve it and made theories on the spot.
Yeah, I'll admit that sometimes gamers can be chauvinistic, but that's true for a lot of people.
And if you're pathetic enough to see sexism in everything then I have to give you the news, you're clearly retarded.
Imagine if the UN put this much effort into putting a colony on Mars. Who am I kidding, they still wouldn't get anything done. The UN is supposed to be an advisory board and a means of international discourse, not a governing body.
the UN's purpose on earth was to prevent another genocide from happening.
I really hate people like you who just see an institution with power and assume their mission encompasses every outlet of our society.
NO. you are no better than these two ****** retards trying to censor the internet thru the UN.
THATS NOT WHAT ITS FOR GOD DAMN IT.
WHY DOESNT ANYONE TALK ABOUT THE ONLY GOING GENOCIDE IN DARFUR AND HOW THE UN HAS DONE TOTALY JACK **** ABOUT IT !@#$!@#$!@%!@#%$@!#^$%@#$%^$#! THE **** IS WRONG WITH U PEOPLE SO ******* IGNORANT GOD DAMNIT I HATE THE WORLD
actually most places in power really are corrupt and as you just said negatively, no one on top will do the job because they already got what they came for.
They're attempting to censor the internet because Anita Sarkisian claims she's a "survivor" of cyber bullying. And Quinn is there because she's the poster child for femnazis
If you ask me Zoe Quinn started this whole thing because her game wasn't that good. Anita's the head of the operation but feminists are filled with hot air. I read an article by a feminists who wants to put a tax on single guys
i just pray that no one there takes them seriously. if the internet is ever censored like that i am more than willing to take up arms against whatever government is imposing it on me
There is one feminist I downright respect and that is Emma Watson, she's not some minimum downright airhead she makes some fairly good points without getting in your face about it. (Not to mention I have a crush on her)