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deutschblut (7 hours ago) [-] It's not Merkel's fault though.
Should she remove Germany from United Nations?
Every country in the world is required to take in refugees.
Remember the whole Refugee Convention of 1953 we all signed?
Should she remove Germany from United Nations?
Every country in the world is required to take in refugees.
Remember the whole Refugee Convention of 1953 we all signed?
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deutschblut (6 hours ago) [-] Philippines did and accepts refugees all the time, anon...
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kingofkrauts (8 hours ago) [-] Unfortunatly, we, Germany, will be viewed as the "evil side" who brought the refugees to Europe. For the fact that we were once a foreign-hating, evil side.
Whatever we do, it ***** us up. If our politicians followed the citizens' call for once and stop the refugee wave, we would be called Nazis. Again. If we continue the trend, we are the baddies who let them in. If we hadn't taken refugees in the first place to prevent this ********* ...that's right, we would have been called Nazis again!
There is a strong difference between a healthy human mind and politics, but unfortunatly, international politics works this way. Always use the past and propaganda to get the politicians' purse filled, and **** the people. Regardless which one.
Whatever we do, it ***** us up. If our politicians followed the citizens' call for once and stop the refugee wave, we would be called Nazis. Again. If we continue the trend, we are the baddies who let them in. If we hadn't taken refugees in the first place to prevent this ********* ...that's right, we would have been called Nazis again!
There is a strong difference between a healthy human mind and politics, but unfortunatly, international politics works this way. Always use the past and propaganda to get the politicians' purse filled, and **** the people. Regardless which one.
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bakagaijin (9 hours ago) [-] **bakagaijin used "*roll picture*"**
**bakagaijin rolled image**We'll send him over but you need to take 3rd wave feminists with you
**bakagaijin rolled image**We'll send him over but you need to take 3rd wave feminists with you
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marinepenguin (6 hours ago) [-] He's a better potential president than Sanders or Hillary, both of which will continue the US on it's current path. Hillary would literally be Obama part 2.
Trump with Cruz or Paul as the VP is the best possible decision we have.
Trump with Cruz or Paul as the VP is the best possible decision we have.
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kellorkleft (6 hours ago) [-]
Or know that they can gain favor by just shouting the loudest, and anyone who bases their views on emotion will buy into it.
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vladhellsing (14 hours ago) [-] Ahh **** , I can see it now. Trump will come into power and go all Iraq & Afghanistan on Western Europe.
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Pred (10 hours ago) [-] Well that might actually happen as well...
Despite all the **** that Merkel cunt did she achieved the unthinkable
She actually united the entire right wing spectrum ranging from neutral people with a tiny spec of nationalism and self respect all the way to the white supremacists and extremists. Pretty much guaranteeing that our next elected politicians will all be right wing oriented and not some liberal cucks.
Despite all the **** that Merkel cunt did she achieved the unthinkable
She actually united the entire right wing spectrum ranging from neutral people with a tiny spec of nationalism and self respect all the way to the white supremacists and extremists. Pretty much guaranteeing that our next elected politicians will all be right wing oriented and not some liberal cucks.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] "A man can only wish"? That is retarded. I am Western European and sure as hell think that:
1, I don't think that the situation in Europe isn't nearly close to Iraq and Afghanistan, one such attack (or even some more) don't turn one of the most civilized and safe areas in the world into those countries. Again, one isolated phenomenon doesn't mean all refugees/asylum seekers/migrants are bad, just kick the **** out of those that are caught red-handed and be done with it.
2, I do not want the US to invade Europe, and wishing for it is retarded. If we ever want to kick those migrants out, we will, we need no help from Trump, thanks (probably because he won't even win the election).
That being said, I realize that the opposite is your opinion and I respect that, I just think it is crazy talk or simply a recurring joke.
1, I don't think that the situation in Europe isn't nearly close to Iraq and Afghanistan, one such attack (or even some more) don't turn one of the most civilized and safe areas in the world into those countries. Again, one isolated phenomenon doesn't mean all refugees/asylum seekers/migrants are bad, just kick the **** out of those that are caught red-handed and be done with it.
2, I do not want the US to invade Europe, and wishing for it is retarded. If we ever want to kick those migrants out, we will, we need no help from Trump, thanks (probably because he won't even win the election).
That being said, I realize that the opposite is your opinion and I respect that, I just think it is crazy talk or simply a recurring joke.
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Pred (10 hours ago) [-]
1) I don't think it's bad because it could be much worse (aka stone age tier Iraq bad)
Do you even listen to yourself?
One of the most civilized and safest area in the world. EXACTLY. So how else are we going to turn all this civilization building success into a pile of **** ?
Oh right, lets import millions of people from countries where stoning women for getting raped is the norm. But hey, it won't turn us into one of those countires overnight so it's ok.
It's NOT ******* ok, it's only going to be getting worse with every next military age male "refugee" we import.
Isolated cases? Are you out of your mind? This is the only argument you rainbow people always bring up and it's utter ******** .
How many more hundreds of "isolated cases" do you need before you realize they are actually not as isolated. The NYE in Germany wasn't an "isolated" case, it was just a case on such a huge scale that not even the liberal controlled media could keep silent about it.
HERE, have a taste of "it's not bad because we're not middle east tier yet" and "safe and civilized areas won't turn bad anytime soon"
2) I never said I want US to invade Europe, I said I want Trump to come here and be president here, because we ******* need someone who's not afraid to speak the truth and doesn't want to turn all of Europe into a steaming ******** just to appear having some sort of "moral high ground"
Do you even listen to yourself?
One of the most civilized and safest area in the world. EXACTLY. So how else are we going to turn all this civilization building success into a pile of **** ?
Oh right, lets import millions of people from countries where stoning women for getting raped is the norm. But hey, it won't turn us into one of those countires overnight so it's ok.
It's NOT ******* ok, it's only going to be getting worse with every next military age male "refugee" we import.
Isolated cases? Are you out of your mind? This is the only argument you rainbow people always bring up and it's utter ******** .
How many more hundreds of "isolated cases" do you need before you realize they are actually not as isolated. The NYE in Germany wasn't an "isolated" case, it was just a case on such a huge scale that not even the liberal controlled media could keep silent about it.
HERE, have a taste of "it's not bad because we're not middle east tier yet" and "safe and civilized areas won't turn bad anytime soon"
2) I never said I want US to invade Europe, I said I want Trump to come here and be president here, because we ******* need someone who's not afraid to speak the truth and doesn't want to turn all of Europe into a steaming ******** just to appear having some sort of "moral high ground"
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] Aaaand you cite the bias-video-man, that ends the discussion for me. I am not even from Sweden, and obviously not all Europe is like that, but ok. And yes, they are isolated cases, like it or not, statistics show so (it is funny how people include cases from migrants that have been here for years and try to count them as Syrian refugees, it really is). I won't be talking against a brickwall, so it's ok, reply if you want I won't anymore. And pssst, we're not importing "millions of people", and even if we did, I'm sure that it wouldn't be too bad, considering Europe has a population of several hundreds of millions. But hey, whatever floats your boat, I think you should go out more and stop eating this "they'll tear the civilized Europe apart" ******** that comes from /pol, Breitbart, the nutjob side of FJ or the three of them. Good night.
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Pred (10 hours ago) [-]
mkay.. stay ignorant sheeplet.
Nice argument ending tho
"nanana you're talking something not fitting my delusional agenda, Im not listening anymore nor talking to you anymore bye"
Maybe when the refugees molest or rape one of your relatives and YOU will be called racist and Islamophobic for suggesting they should perhaps face some sort of trial or be deported, maybe then you'll realize that being all liberal and tolerant wasn't the best choice.
Because remember... it's only racist/sexist/crime/... if a WHITE man does that
Nice argument ending tho
"nanana you're talking something not fitting my delusional agenda, Im not listening anymore nor talking to you anymore bye"
Maybe when the refugees molest or rape one of your relatives and YOU will be called racist and Islamophobic for suggesting they should perhaps face some sort of trial or be deported, maybe then you'll realize that being all liberal and tolerant wasn't the best choice.
Because remember... it's only racist/sexist/crime/... if a WHITE man does that
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alphadolan ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-] 1.) Obviously they aren't "kicking the **** outta those caught red handed" did you not pay attention to the video?
2.) Obviously you wont kick them out with the cunts that are in charge of bringing them in.
This false thought of being a place of "high moral" and lending the helping hand to those who seek to destroy and conquer is just pure stupidity.
2.) Obviously you wont kick them out with the cunts that are in charge of bringing them in.
This false thought of being a place of "high moral" and lending the helping hand to those who seek to destroy and conquer is just pure stupidity.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] Merkel is literally changing the laws to expell them, and in my country a law has been in place for quite a long time by which a non-national that commits a crime can be kicked out, regardless of their refugee status and such.
I do not consider myself to be in a "high moral place", but I also think that considering all incoming refugees as people that "want to destroy and conquer" is flat out retarded. Go get a tinfoil hat and an AR-15, oh wait, you probably already do.
I do not consider myself to be in a "high moral place", but I also think that considering all incoming refugees as people that "want to destroy and conquer" is flat out retarded. Go get a tinfoil hat and an AR-15, oh wait, you probably already do.
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alphadolan ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-] You're god damn right I got 3 AR-15's
You sound like someone with the false hope that this kind of stuff is only happening in one of those places somewhere way beyond the stars and that it only happens once in a blue moon.
Obviously incidents are happening quite often...
We see most of the activity happening in Europe because guess what? They're rolling the red carpet for them.
Obviously not every Refugee is a "bad guy" only a retard would think that but how are you supposed to weed out good from bad? Wait till they do something bad then punish them right?
That in and of itself is a problem.
You sound like someone with the false hope that this kind of stuff is only happening in one of those places somewhere way beyond the stars and that it only happens once in a blue moon.
Obviously incidents are happening quite often...
We see most of the activity happening in Europe because guess what? They're rolling the red carpet for them.
Obviously not every Refugee is a "bad guy" only a retard would think that but how are you supposed to weed out good from bad? Wait till they do something bad then punish them right?
That in and of itself is a problem.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] You're supposed to weed them out exactly like that. Or maybe have a more thorough background check system before you let them in, which some countries are hurrying to implement so they don't have to kick some of them out later.
I am not blind to the fact that those incidents do happen, but I also know that some of the migrants that have come from that area have been great assets to the countries they've gone to and have been respectable citizens, adding a great value to their communities, and I refuse to let go of all that because of a couple hundred retards that squirm in with them.
The sorting process will get better, and Europe will still be going business as usual, and in fact slightly stronger and richer because of the people that have brought good things here. At least that's my opinion, and you sure as hell can disagree with it. Good night, sir.
I am not blind to the fact that those incidents do happen, but I also know that some of the migrants that have come from that area have been great assets to the countries they've gone to and have been respectable citizens, adding a great value to their communities, and I refuse to let go of all that because of a couple hundred retards that squirm in with them.
The sorting process will get better, and Europe will still be going business as usual, and in fact slightly stronger and richer because of the people that have brought good things here. At least that's my opinion, and you sure as hell can disagree with it. Good night, sir.
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alphadolan ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-] You're view is very hope-filled
It only took like what 4 retards to kill around 130 people in France?
I doubt they will ever establish a functioning background system for them but if they do and if it works that'd be great.
Anyways I've made my point you've made yours no need to argue anymore.
Good night.
It only took like what 4 retards to kill around 130 people in France?
I doubt they will ever establish a functioning background system for them but if they do and if it works that'd be great.
Anyways I've made my point you've made yours no need to argue anymore.
Good night.
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Pred (10 hours ago) [-]
I'd just like to point up a little detail about that 4 tards killing hundreds in France.
That wasn't the first attack that came to plan and action inside one of the "No-go zones" as the muslim ghettos are called. Little zones where Sharia law is enforced and police nor medical aid goes there as they fear for their life. A little middle east island within "safe and civilized" area as you could call it. They are known among the citizens and police alike, yet they don't do **** about them because.. SURPRISE SURPRISE it would be racist/Islamophobic to try and civilize it.
Why am I even bothering writing this when that delusional libtard will just put on his pink glasses and reply with some **** like "bias bias, lies, racist, you hate migrants, I'm not arguing anymore, bye"
That wasn't the first attack that came to plan and action inside one of the "No-go zones" as the muslim ghettos are called. Little zones where Sharia law is enforced and police nor medical aid goes there as they fear for their life. A little middle east island within "safe and civilized" area as you could call it. They are known among the citizens and police alike, yet they don't do **** about them because.. SURPRISE SURPRISE it would be racist/Islamophobic to try and civilize it.
Why am I even bothering writing this when that delusional libtard will just put on his pink glasses and reply with some **** like "bias bias, lies, racist, you hate migrants, I'm not arguing anymore, bye"
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] The hilarious thing is... they were french. This is what happens when you take people in (in France's case it was Algeria) and you don't integrate them properly. I have family in France and not only are they pretty racist against arabs, they even look other Europeans over their shoulders thinking they are better. When you get migrants and don't integrate them properly, relegating them to ghettos and saying " **** off, don't disturb", then you have these problems.
I'm not blind to the fact that they can be problematic, but if they are taken in reasonable numbers and handled properly, they can add something to the society. The problem comes when things aren't done properly, which may or may be not be the case in Europe (I guess it is not done properly in most places, where I live we haven't got that many of them yet, so the first arrivals will be properly handled).
You were kind of polite and I could talk to you like a human being, I appreciate that (not everyone can say the same these days). Also, do not worry about grammar mistakes, I am not even an english native speaker and I make them all the time. Despite disagreeing with you, this has been enriching as it has been, and I really agree with you on not arguing anymore. As stated before, good night.
I'm not blind to the fact that they can be problematic, but if they are taken in reasonable numbers and handled properly, they can add something to the society. The problem comes when things aren't done properly, which may or may be not be the case in Europe (I guess it is not done properly in most places, where I live we haven't got that many of them yet, so the first arrivals will be properly handled).
You were kind of polite and I could talk to you like a human being, I appreciate that (not everyone can say the same these days). Also, do not worry about grammar mistakes, I am not even an english native speaker and I make them all the time. Despite disagreeing with you, this has been enriching as it has been, and I really agree with you on not arguing anymore. As stated before, good night.
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anon (10 hours ago) [-]
Nice white blaming right there, so migrants getting into ghettos is the country's fault, right. Really this cuck mentality, you know what any civilized person would do if he planned on living in another country? He would first learn the language, that's the bare minimum, and yet most migrants you see in my country don't know how to speak the language even after more than 10 years.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] It is not white blaming goddamit, what does race have to do here? If the homing country recieving them was ******* black, then they'd be the dumb ones too. If you are taking people in, the state should make sure they are at least somewhat integrating, by teaching them the language, basic knowledge, etc. If not, you risk them grouping up, forming ghettos and creating a potential bomb in case conflict arises (France has had previous problems with people from the suburbs because of this exact reason, and they weren't jihadists). And this isn't exclusive to this wave of migration, but rather all of them, if you want people to integrate rather than form their own micro-societies inside of yours, the state has to work towards that, and it will probably pay out in the long run.
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anon (10 hours ago) [-]
Why go through the trouble? Why waste resources on them while risking them not giving a **** and just forming guettos (as they usually do)? Seriously you keep talking as if they were needed here or something, they aren't, they aren't doing us a favour by coming here.
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guillem (9 hours ago) [-] Maybe not to your country, but some actually are in desperate need of younger people (low as **** fertility rate) willing to work. My country, with an unemployment rate through the roof, probably doesn't need them, but they can do good in countries such as Germany, and in fact economists seem to have certified that (economists independent from the Government, btw). Here's a link to an article citing study saying so (it is in German though, the study), plus there have been multiple companies and businessmen stating that they regard the refugees as an opportunity.
Article about the study: www.thelocal.de/20151111/germany-can-afford-refugees-top-economists
Random article about them being an opportunity: www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugees-are-an-opportunity-for-the-german-economy-a-1050102.html
Article about the study: www.thelocal.de/20151111/germany-can-afford-refugees-top-economists
Random article about them being an opportunity: www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugees-are-an-opportunity-for-the-german-economy-a-1050102.html
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Pred (10 hours ago) [-]
WHAT WHAT??? among the hundreds of criminals, rapists and porch monkeys with utter zero respect for the very people that give them housing, food and new life comes a handful of civilized people?
Oh lowdy my bad... open the gates fully and roll the red carpets.
OH WAIT, just a while ago when I posted a video of one such respectable citizen you called that a "bias video" and ceased the conversation without even watching it
Oh lowdy my bad... open the gates fully and roll the red carpets.
OH WAIT, just a while ago when I posted a video of one such respectable citizen you called that a "bias video" and ceased the conversation without even watching it
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scorcho (6 hours ago) [-] if the whole million of them (or even the majority) would all be criminals or rapists, the situation would look a little more bleak, don't you think?
i'm all for weeding out the scum, but i will not just put all of them under blanket suspicion.
that is not agreeable with the principles this republic was founded on and i denounce it.
i'm all for weeding out the scum, but i will not just put all of them under blanket suspicion.
that is not agreeable with the principles this republic was founded on and i denounce it.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] You assume that most of them are criminals, rapists and porch monkeys, and that is why you're wrong. Those are in fact the minority. And I do not remember that video/post you are talking about, but most of the time I watch them, so if I said I thought it was biased, I probably thought it ******* was (which, seen your opinion on the matter, doesn't surprise me on the slightest). Consider this conversation ended, not because "I can't take disagreement", but rather because this will lead us nowhere and I don't really feel like wasting my time with you, I've already talked with another user in this same thread and don't feel like doing it again with a far less respectful one. Have a good night.
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Pred (9 hours ago) [-]
you assume most of them are not and that is the big problem.
They come from a culture where women are considered a second class citizens
They come from a culture where women have to be covered head to toe because the males can't suppress their animal instincts
They come from a culture where schooling of children mostly consists of memorizing the Quaran
They come from a culture that's been teaching them from early age to look down on infidels
They come from a culture where having 7-8 kids is the norm without caring about how to feed them.
Now we import these people in mass quantities (80% of them happen to be military aged men I should note) and we're supposed to think there is actually a slightest chance of integrating these people?
NOT A ******* CHANCE IN HELL, they'll just create more isolated communities, more beggars on the street, more no-go zone, more "do as we dictate or be called Islamophobe" by libtards like YOU,..
I'm sorry I'm just not OK with that and I understand how you can never view it the way I do, since you're the libtard who will come to their aid calling me an Islamophobe when I decide to employ someone who's capable of shaking hands with women over Mohamed.
They come from a culture where women are considered a second class citizens
They come from a culture where women have to be covered head to toe because the males can't suppress their animal instincts
They come from a culture where schooling of children mostly consists of memorizing the Quaran
They come from a culture that's been teaching them from early age to look down on infidels
They come from a culture where having 7-8 kids is the norm without caring about how to feed them.
Now we import these people in mass quantities (80% of them happen to be military aged men I should note) and we're supposed to think there is actually a slightest chance of integrating these people?
NOT A ******* CHANCE IN HELL, they'll just create more isolated communities, more beggars on the street, more no-go zone, more "do as we dictate or be called Islamophobe" by libtards like YOU,..
I'm sorry I'm just not OK with that and I understand how you can never view it the way I do, since you're the libtard who will come to their aid calling me an Islamophobe when I decide to employ someone who's capable of shaking hands with women over Mohamed.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugees-are-an-opportunity-for-the-german-economy-a-1050102.html
fortune.com/2015/09/15/syria-refugees-europe/
They are not the most reputable sources, but since people in here tend to use Breitbart as theirs, this counts too. I am looking for an article about economists that said that it would only take refugees about 7 years to make up for the costs of their arrival, and after that they'd have a good balance towards the economy, when I find it I'll post it.
fortune.com/2015/09/15/syria-refugees-europe/
They are not the most reputable sources, but since people in here tend to use Breitbart as theirs, this counts too. I am looking for an article about economists that said that it would only take refugees about 7 years to make up for the costs of their arrival, and after that they'd have a good balance towards the economy, when I find it I'll post it.
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anon (10 hours ago) [-]
>they are not the most reputable source
Dude why start a fight if you are going to willingly lose it from the beginning? Also the thing about the ecnonomists, just because a country CAN afford something doesn't mean it is good for it, even if migrants would raise the country's GDP (which they won't, I assure you), it isn't worth it, Europe isn't made of poor countries which desperately need money even if it cost them their own culture heritage.
Dude why start a fight if you are going to willingly lose it from the beginning? Also the thing about the ecnonomists, just because a country CAN afford something doesn't mean it is good for it, even if migrants would raise the country's GDP (which they won't, I assure you), it isn't worth it, Europe isn't made of poor countries which desperately need money even if it cost them their own culture heritage.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] The more reputable source that I was trying to find is right below. At least I was being honest with the trustworthyness of my sources (people citing Breitbart or other ************ media often aren't, and honesty is something I value a lot).
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] Here it is, both the original study (in german) and an article leading to it:
www.thelocal.de/20151111/germany-can-afford-refugees-top-economists
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www.thelocal.de/20151111/germany-can-afford-refugees-top-economists
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anon (10 hours ago) [-]
******* cucks like you are the ones who are killing Europe, I dont give a **** if only 5% of migrants are savages, STILL TOO MUCH, Europe doesn't need them, there is no benefit in letting them in, so why do it? Poor refugees who only want a better life can suck my dick, they are as bad for letting the extremists do things like this.
The good thing is all you cuck countries are the ones getting invaded because cuck culture, so when Europe finally realizes that we have to kill this cancer, you and your cuck genes will be wiped out.
The good thing is all you cuck countries are the ones getting invaded because cuck culture, so when Europe finally realizes that we have to kill this cancer, you and your cuck genes will be wiped out.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] Yes, I'm sure you'll do all the killing anon, preeetty damn sure. Your genes must also be top tier, you show such a terrific display of intellect, it is scary. I bet all the girls you've laid with along the years also agree with me. Are you a part of the Mensa? You should apply.
In case you didn't get it, it was sarcastic, I think you're pretty damn dumb
In case you didn't get it, it was sarcastic, I think you're pretty damn dumb
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] Ok, let me see:
1. You post as anon.
2. You attack me by saying ******* cuck, my genes should be erased, blah blah blah
3. I respond you in an equal manner (aka, being rude and not giving a **** about someone who hasn't given arguments and has been ******* rude)
4. "Muh ad hominem attacks, you have no arguments bro"
I literally don't want to waste my time arguing with you, so I guess that you'd understand the " **** off" I was waving in your face by yourself, seems I was wrong. Want my arguments? Go read them somewhere else in these comments, where I talk to people not as incoherent as you.
1. You post as anon.
2. You attack me by saying ******* cuck, my genes should be erased, blah blah blah
3. I respond you in an equal manner (aka, being rude and not giving a **** about someone who hasn't given arguments and has been ******* rude)
4. "Muh ad hominem attacks, you have no arguments bro"
I literally don't want to waste my time arguing with you, so I guess that you'd understand the " **** off" I was waving in your face by yourself, seems I was wrong. Want my arguments? Go read them somewhere else in these comments, where I talk to people not as incoherent as you.
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guillem (10 hours ago) [-] So what? It is still my opinion, there is no battle to be won or lost. I know I won't convince anybody out there, as everybody seems to have their mind made up (either being in one side or the other), but I refuse to believe that everyone in thise website is racist and hates migrants.
