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#1 - meatfist (12/17/2015) [-]
This is why the Synths do not deserve human rights.
#17 to #1 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
First and second gen are pretty much just robots.
User avatar #2 to #1 - kristovsky (12/17/2015) [-]
>Curie
User avatar #4 to #1 - scowler (12/17/2015) [-]
Those were first-generation Synths. Just glorified combat drones, only good for salvage.
#9 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
> Complaining cats are supposedly extinct to the Canon.
*Spoilers inbound*

> Not questioning that there's no mention of Synths in any other Fallout game, except for the two vague references in FO3.
> Not questioning why there's suddenly an abundance of plastic despite incredible scarcity of the resources needed to make it, with the events leading up to the bombs.
> Not questioning why Kellogg looks IDENTICAL after 60 years.
> Why go to all the hassle of kidnapping your kid when they could of just integrated you all into the Institute with less repurcussions.
> Not questioning why Dogmeat is able to track someone even though they apparently left 50 years prior, which Nick contradicts by saying it was only 'Some time ago', and that Piper is being discussed on the radio, despite her being < 50.


Jesus. If you're gonna try and pick at a plot hole, pick at a decent one.

The game was great.
It's not ******* seamless, and I challenge you to find me one that is.
#10 to #9 - ragnarfag (12/17/2015) [-]
> Not questioning that there's no mention of Synths in any other Fallout game, except for the two vague references in FO3.
All other Fallout games besides 3 take place on the west coast

> Not questioning why there's suddenly an abundance of plastic despite incredible scarcity of the resources needed to make it, with the events leading up to the bombs.
You gotta remember that the prewar world used atomic energy as a power source, it has to be assumed that oil was prioritized for other things such as plastic

> Not questioning why Kellogg looks IDENTICAL after 60 years.
Kellogg is a cyborg (which is clearly stated by the game) with life prolonging technology which was dropped by the institute to focus more on synths

> Why go to all the hassle of kidnapping your kid when they could of just integrated you all into the Institute with less repurcussions
Integrating a larger group of people into a smaller faction with thin stretched resources and a constant power problem is very much of a hassle

> Not questioning why Dogmeat is able to track someone even though they apparently left 50 years prior, which Nick contradicts by saying it was only 'Some time ago', and that Piper is being discussed on the radio, despite her being < 50.
Because it was in fact only some time ago, the kid you see in Kelloggs house in DC is a synth, the same which you'll meet later in the institute, why Kellogg took care of that synth is unknown and no that's not a plothole

> Complaining cats are supposedly extinct to the Canon.
Although it's stated by some girl in F1 that cats got extinct by being hunted down, that only applies to the west coast within the canon
User avatar #22 to #10 - faffle (12/18/2015) [-]
Holy **** anon just got BTFO
User avatar #21 to #10 - avocadoXD (12/18/2015) [-]
man dude, shoulda at least used lube before you railed his asshole
User avatar #19 to #10 - megaflak (12/18/2015) [-]
holy **** anon got destroyed
#12 to #10 - tippythetree (12/17/2015) [-]
**tippythetree used "*roll picture*"**
**tippythetree rolled image** Green Finger in the bum for you
User avatar #5 - battletechmech (12/17/2015) [-]
There's cats in Fallout 4? That's annoying, canonically they were considered extinct, which is why the rat king in Fallout 2 was a thing.
User avatar #7 to #5 - pasadenamudslide (12/17/2015) [-]
then you'll hate that one house in diamond city
#6 to #5 - electrictroll ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
They weren't extinct just nearly so and they were rarer in the west than east.
And there is a person who owned a cat until her mother ate it.
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Listen_to_Stacy%27s_kitty_story
User avatar #8 to #6 - battletechmech (12/17/2015) [-]
Well yes, that cat was supposed to be the last cat
User avatar #24 to #8 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
BOS is non-canon, however.
User avatar #27 to #24 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
i'm not sure what the PS2 game has anything to do with what i'm saying.
User avatar #28 to #27 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
It was the last game to insinuate that Cats were extinct. Which they aren't.
User avatar #29 to #28 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
Oh, I entirely forgot about the whore's pussy, you're right, I didn't even look at his link, thinking it was just the person from Fallout 2
User avatar #31 to #29 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
Actually, I think it was the only game to insinuate that Cats were extinct. FO2 merely stated that people hunted them out of desperation.
User avatar #32 to #31 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
Are you sure? Stacy, the woman from Fallout 2, hadn't seen a cat since she was a child, in BOS, Ruby i think her name was, her cat was killed very recently in terms of the game's start.
User avatar #33 to #32 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
I need to research more thoroughly. Still, doesn't change the fact that they're alive. And miraculously un-mutated. Whereas Dogs have fallen to some form of mutation or another. Like the attack dogs that the Gunners use...
#34 to #33 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
GIF
Well, if you work with the assumption that Richard Grey threw cats into the centaur vat, then you technically do have mutated cats.
"Centaurs were created by the Master. The creation process involved tossing a varied mix of humans, dogs, and other types of animals into a Forced Evolutionary Virus nutrient vat to be infected by the virus, and then see what mutant chimera emerged as the virus produced rapid and unpredictable mutations. As a result, centaurs can differ quite radically in physical appearance from one another. However, all known centaurs are somewhat humanoid in appearance."
User avatar #35 to #34 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
No. Their tissue was likely broken down. Stout animals don't react well to the FEV. Especially considering that Cats' anatomies likely accepted the diluted West Tek FEV that made it's way into North America's air currents when the facility was attacked. This rendered them unfit candidates. Lucky little ******* .

That explains why West Coast Centaurs are Dogs mixed with one live Human and two corpses. East Coast Centaurs are likely the product of one live Human and one Human corpse. Chromosomal damage may also be a factor.

I'm glad we never get to see how Centaurs are made. I'm already imagining the process and it's simply too horrifying for words.

Either way, we're talking about mutation from radiation exposure. Not FEV. FEV is running out. It's likely also destroyed when major factions find it...
User avatar #36 to #35 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
I imagine it goes something like this. This was the only version I could find quickly

Anyways centaurs were made by putting the ingredients in a vat and then filling it with the FEV liquid.
User avatar #39 to #36 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
So, you're sure Centaurs are made that way? It'd be quite a hassle to empty the vat and fill it back up. Also, I've seen that before.
User avatar #40 to #39 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
the creation process involved tossing a varied mix of humans, dogs, and other types of animals into a Forced Evolutionary Virus (FEV) vat to be infected by the virus, and then seeing what mutant chimera emerged as the virus produced rapid and unpredictable mutations

Yeah i was mistaken.
User avatar #41 to #40 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
Yeah, it'd be a hassle to do it any other way. Vault 87 used an aerosolized form of FEV, though...
User avatar #37 to #36 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
Whatever you uploaded didn't come through on my end.
#11 to #8 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Because in the chaotic world of Fallout people are completely aware of the surviving numbers of every single species on the planet, or heck even just within the US borders.
User avatar #13 to #11 - battletechmech (12/17/2015) [-]
Cats were viewed as easy food by survivors, they were commonly eaten and the demand for food eventually caused them to go extinct.
#18 to #13 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Because the people on one coast would know whether or not the people on another coast killed all their cats, right?


Someone could have made a multi-generational cat sanctuary. Or there could have been a vault with cats involved. Or they just didn't hunt cats as much.
This is asinine complaining done either for the sake of complaining or because you hate that Bethesda isn't religiously following every off-hand comment made in Fallout 1
User avatar #23 to #18 - battletechmech (12/18/2015) [-]
Or Bethesda could respect the canon they bought into and try not to **** it repeatably, if cats were recognized as easy food after the apocolypse, which i might add is the same apocolypse that allows deathclaws migrate from one coast to the other, than there's no reason for cats to be alive anyways.
User avatar #25 to #23 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
Remember that the West Coast took the brunt of China's nuclear counterattack. The more devastating of the warheads bound for the East Coast were likely intercepted by laser countermeasures and purpose-built aircraft, preventing a total loss of infrastructure on the East Coast.

Boston and the immediate areas north and northeast of it weren't directly hit. It stands to reason that the military build-up around Boston proper allowed for easy access to vast Federal ration stockpiles, since there are sealed cans of pure Water available to this day. It would explain how settlements like Diamond City came about as early as the 2100's. It would also explain the continued existence of Cats, as hunting in city areas wasn't viewed with as much priority as in LA...

And let's not forget the Deer and Cows that survived and managed to breed. It stands to reason that Game Wardens, Guardsmen, resident hunters, and farmers were able to protect most of these animals for a time. Eventually, martial law collapsed which opened up more stockpiles. Whatever the soldiers couldn't take with them remained for looters.

So yeah, it's fairly reasonable that Cats managed to survive in the Boston area. Maybe they were just simply left alone as a means of killing pests. Especially when the Cockroaches started getting bigger, and the Mole Rats got loose and everyone who knew about the Kill Switch likely died in D.C.
User avatar #26 to #25 - battletechmech (12/19/2015) [-]
fair enough
User avatar #30 to #26 - scowler (12/19/2015) [-]
Thank you.
User avatar #20 - Deavas (12/18/2015) [-]
pretty sad that bethesda holds its fanbase in such low esteem they had to go and add an icon to tell you your pipboy light is on
#16 - creamymcgee ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
Good job Institute. Keep up the good work saving humanity.
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User avatar #3 - scowler (12/17/2015) [-]
Oh, come the **** on...
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