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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] Well, they've already said Bruce Jenner is a woman, despite the fact that his woman of the year award probably bumped into his very much still attached balls. They can definitely try.
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crixuz (12/15/2015) [-] It`s funny because when guys were getting PTSD in ww1 they were accused of faking it as an excuse, but now people are actually doing that. everything becoming full circle.
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sgtmajjohnson (12/15/2015) [-] My school is actually considering implementing safe spaces now. **** my life.
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ainise (12/16/2015) [-]
It originates from child psychology, specifically for developmental children.
It's a space to distance a young child away from the pack when they need a place to escape to. An example is: A child who is relatively anti-social gets overwhelmed or gets something of theirs taken from, rather than talk out their problem, they may choose to calm down in a 'safe zone'. Another example is a child who just needs a break from the activities, they go off into a safe zone to calm down and prepare for more activities.
This is as opposed to an 'active' zone, where a lot of children are intermingling.
This is aimed at toddlers to ~6 year olds and mentally handicapped. They're trying to implement this at all levels for some stupid reason.
It's a space to distance a young child away from the pack when they need a place to escape to. An example is: A child who is relatively anti-social gets overwhelmed or gets something of theirs taken from, rather than talk out their problem, they may choose to calm down in a 'safe zone'. Another example is a child who just needs a break from the activities, they go off into a safe zone to calm down and prepare for more activities.
This is as opposed to an 'active' zone, where a lot of children are intermingling.
This is aimed at toddlers to ~6 year olds and mentally handicapped. They're trying to implement this at all levels for some stupid reason.
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shivaspace (12/16/2015) [-] So is it weird that I sometimes go to the bathroom at work, only to be for myself for a moment? I don't even **** . I just sit there with my clothes on in the locked up room for 5-10 minutes. No voices, no smartphone, just close my eyes and relax. Sometimes I even nap for just a few seconds.
My job isn't bad... I just enjoy being alone for a moment sometimes. I used to do this 2-3 times a week... now only around once or twice a month
My job isn't bad... I just enjoy being alone for a moment sometimes. I used to do this 2-3 times a week... now only around once or twice a month
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horsewenk (12/16/2015) [-] No, that is simply being at peace for a few moments while simultaneously not working. "Safe Spaces" as the are described by this weird new phase in colleges are made for people who cannot handle a real life discussion and need to cuddle a stuffed animal because they lack the proper skills that usually develop within a young adult.
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shivaspace (12/17/2015) [-] Well that sounds really weird, indeed... Is it an American thing? I never heard of something like that here in Germany...
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lmOldGreg ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] Ahhh I see. It's hard to apply your own reasoning to other kid's situation. No doubt there are kids now who don't fall into the disable enough to get a safe space category, who could benefit from it. Anything that helps build confidence in children is good.
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ainise (12/16/2015) [-]
Children, yes. This is a GREAT tool for children. It's taught in damn near every single developmental psychology class.
Adults and teenagers? No. Ignoring the negative effects it'll have directly on the person, it WILL indirectly lead to bullying or ostracizing. It's bad for high schools and colleges to implement.
Adults and teenagers? No. Ignoring the negative effects it'll have directly on the person, it WILL indirectly lead to bullying or ostracizing. It's bad for high schools and colleges to implement.
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elementfall (12/16/2015) [-] I don't get the "safe zone" term
I mean,does it differs from a quiet place somehow ? Why the **** do you need terminology from it ?
If it's really that safe place ******** i read about with playdos and such,i don't get the idea:at that age,you should know when **** is going down for you (had a panick attack from noise one day, i could tell something was wrong and i tried to get out of here.Simple as that) and just go outside to breath a little,you don't need to lose time,place and money on things like that.
And i can tell you that people saying things that don't go your way or insult you won't make you faint or something,i didn't need a safe place from it even with the problems i have (mostly anxiety and noise toleration problems)
It's another thing from the good ol' "victim culture" ,where the most "oppressed" and "victimized" one get special treatment in absolutely everything and people prefer to say "i have problems,i won't accomodate for the world" and are proud of having anxiety just because they want to feel different.
Meanwhile i would just want to not have to problems and use ressources for something more worthwile;and to be rated on my work and skill like everyone else
Sorry for the rant,but it seems like it's just child psychology used on adult
I mean,does it differs from a quiet place somehow ? Why the **** do you need terminology from it ?
If it's really that safe place ******** i read about with playdos and such,i don't get the idea:at that age,you should know when **** is going down for you (had a panick attack from noise one day, i could tell something was wrong and i tried to get out of here.Simple as that) and just go outside to breath a little,you don't need to lose time,place and money on things like that.
And i can tell you that people saying things that don't go your way or insult you won't make you faint or something,i didn't need a safe place from it even with the problems i have (mostly anxiety and noise toleration problems)
It's another thing from the good ol' "victim culture" ,where the most "oppressed" and "victimized" one get special treatment in absolutely everything and people prefer to say "i have problems,i won't accomodate for the world" and are proud of having anxiety just because they want to feel different.
Meanwhile i would just want to not have to problems and use ressources for something more worthwile;and to be rated on my work and skill like everyone else
Sorry for the rant,but it seems like it's just child psychology used on adult
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lmOldGreg ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] I don't think it's that bad for teenagers either. Mike Tyson would never have been champ if his manager didn't consciously build him and his confidence up when he was around 16. But yeah you're right, as people get older they become much harsher although they don't like to admit it. There must be a way to implement these safe zones without making the people seem more vulnerable.
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nazkillah (12/16/2015) [-] I really doubt that Mike Tyson's manager did that by telling him to run away from difficult situations to hide away in a "safe zone". People do get harsher when they get older and the ones who can't follow that trend often fall out of the boat and get in situations like that. Hiding yourself away from negativity still shouldn't be a solution, like at all, and I (personally) think that it might even worsen the situation as kids won't be taught to actually stand up to and confront their problems. Only way to cope with "harsh" people is becoming harse yourself, honestly.
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anon (12/16/2015) [-]
It lets immature people who get overwhelmed and about to kill somebody a chance to calm down, think and get control of their emos, to realize that what got them so upset is just not the bid deal they had it worked up to be. It's a good thing for small children and handicapped people. ONLY SMALL children and developmentally handicapped people to help them learn self control.
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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] Probably not, I just don't want to have to discuss ideas (an action which is a substantial part of education) with a bunch of overly sensitive children who are terrified of having their delicate sensibilities upset by anything.
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lean (12/15/2015) [-] Tell em to **** off. Enter any safe space and speak your mind. By nature they are public property with all the freedoms guaranteed. We don't have any near me, and aren't likely to, but hell, I moved to the country for a reason. People are idiots. Safe spaces are counter to intellectualism and the epitome of corrupt social justice. Cultural marxism like this is leading to the decline of western civilization. Just because an opinion is dissenting doesn't mean it is marginalized. If it cannot be rationalized or defended by logical thinking then it is indefensible, not worthy of being wrapped up and protected by political correctness.
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sgtmajjohnson (12/15/2015) [-] Exactly, if your so worried that conflicting viewpoints are dangerous to your views, than maybe your views are wrong. If you are unable to convincingly argue for them, while the other side can, they deserve to have people agree with them.
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anon (12/16/2015) [-]
>by nature they are public property.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.
Unless they're actually public property, like on a patch of grass or street or whatever, but schools are not. Not anybody can just walk in and do whatever the **** they want. I can't walk into a classroom, stand in a corner and eat a mayo sandwich while grunting loudly as a teacher is trying to teach a class.
If someone is being given the use of the room, that's their room. If I'm in a college and a club is using a lecture room, too ****** bad, they were given the room to use as they please and they can toss out whoever they like.
The comparison above is moronic anyway because, as far as I remember, those 18 year olds going to war was not praised as a good thing.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.
Unless they're actually public property, like on a patch of grass or street or whatever, but schools are not. Not anybody can just walk in and do whatever the **** they want. I can't walk into a classroom, stand in a corner and eat a mayo sandwich while grunting loudly as a teacher is trying to teach a class.
If someone is being given the use of the room, that's their room. If I'm in a college and a club is using a lecture room, too ****** bad, they were given the room to use as they please and they can toss out whoever they like.
The comparison above is moronic anyway because, as far as I remember, those 18 year olds going to war was not praised as a good thing.
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anon (12/16/2015) [-]
So you're saying that your aggressive egocentric need to be right to someone's face is more important than that person's mental and emotional needs?
Who the **** made you so important that your pettiness means more than the self-security of other people? If anything you devalue yourself by placing yourself ahead of others because it makes you LESS of a decent human being.
At this point you just sound like you're chest-pounding acting like some tough guy because people don't WANT to stop and consider others and thus will agree with you. Which is goddamn pathetic. If this is representative of how you think and comport yourself all the time, then you are a pathetic person who detracts from society.
Who the **** made you so important that your pettiness means more than the self-security of other people? If anything you devalue yourself by placing yourself ahead of others because it makes you LESS of a decent human being.
At this point you just sound like you're chest-pounding acting like some tough guy because people don't WANT to stop and consider others and thus will agree with you. Which is goddamn pathetic. If this is representative of how you think and comport yourself all the time, then you are a pathetic person who detracts from society.
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lean (12/16/2015) [-] These aren't mental and emotional needs. These are public universities actively banning alternative opinions and restricting reasoned debate. You don't have a right to be cuddled and told you are a special snowflake, I do have a right to an opinion. Or at least I used to until ******** like you started banning it.
Safe spaces are there because people are so sheltered and coddled they find dissenting opinions to be offensive. Guess what? There is no such thing as the right to not be offended. There is, however, a right to freedom of speech. Up to and including telling you to **** off.
Safe spaces are there because people are so sheltered and coddled they find dissenting opinions to be offensive. Guess what? There is no such thing as the right to not be offended. There is, however, a right to freedom of speech. Up to and including telling you to **** off.
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emptysuperman ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] I'm glad I got out of college just before this **** started.
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anonchief (12/16/2015) [-] Nah, i got somethin more believable: If anyone confronts me about it, i will just say "a friend wanted to go to the safe space thing, so im texting them a pic of the stickers so they know where to go"
Besides, my highschool probably wont give a **** and a half if some random senior is taking pics of random **** .
Besides, my highschool probably wont give a **** and a half if some random senior is taking pics of random **** .
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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] You should upload it as content too. You could spread awareness of this ******** .
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anon (12/16/2015) [-]
"Oh no, people who don't handle anxiety and confrontation well have places they can escape from my aggressive idiocy and need to put them down for no discernible goddamn ******* reason. It's a travesty! Anyone I want to offend and attack HAS to be accessible to me at all times, preferably in full view of others so I have the support of the people around me in making this random person feel like **** ! Oh, they don't like it? Haha, too bad - maybe they should kill themselves or just deal with it!"
This is you. I wish a bitch would, you'd get stabbed so fast it ain't even funny.
This is you. I wish a bitch would, you'd get stabbed so fast it ain't even funny.
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kaimera (12/16/2015) [-]
I belive the discussion here has gone over your head. They are not advocating for the harassment of mentally handicapped people, they ate advocating freedom of speech. If I went into one of these rooms and simply said "my favorite color is red" one of the people would likely start yelling at me that I, a white man, cannot try to force my choice onto them. They would then get the other students to physically force me from the room.
That is not helping people overcome anxiety, it's gIving idiots an echo chamber.
A small group should not be allowed to dictate what I can and can't say in ANY place.
Within reason of course. For example I can't run around the halls of a high school shouting ****** , but I should be allowed to say it in public.
But, I should be allowed to express my opinion both in and out of school.
That is not helping people overcome anxiety, it's gIving idiots an echo chamber.
A small group should not be allowed to dictate what I can and can't say in ANY place.
Within reason of course. For example I can't run around the halls of a high school shouting ****** , but I should be allowed to say it in public.
But, I should be allowed to express my opinion both in and out of school.
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thelastelephant (12/16/2015) [-] That is probably the only "safe space" that should be allowed to exist.
That and gun-free zones
That and gun-free zones
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deviousxreaper (12/16/2015) [-] Oh I love gun free zones the people there will give you all there money if you bring a gun there.
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youregaylol (12/16/2015) [-] gun free zones are great, nobody has a gun and when i bring my gun there i can do whatever i want
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itskennyandjosh (12/16/2015) [-] I once had to go to one Long story, basically in 5th grade a teacher made the class make fun of me for like an hour and she said i was unstable and **** and blah blah and it was sad, only one retard there just doing nothing while the teachers who are supposed to teach her were just on the computer
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anonchief (12/16/2015) [-] Wow, if a teacher did that to me, i would have told my parents. My grandmother would've probably beat their ass.
No really tho. My nana has lived with me, my mom, and my big bro for a long time. She would come real early to the carpool area at my elementary school because recess was the last thing we did. A few times, some kids were bullying me, and she got out of the car and was just about to handle it herself, cane and everything, if a teacher didnt stop it.
I wish she was still with me, to be honest. She passed peacefully 2 years ago, but it was due to complications during surgery. Loved her like she was a second mother. I always tell myself i will never live below her expectations, and yet i still sometimes fail...
No really tho. My nana has lived with me, my mom, and my big bro for a long time. She would come real early to the carpool area at my elementary school because recess was the last thing we did. A few times, some kids were bullying me, and she got out of the car and was just about to handle it herself, cane and everything, if a teacher didnt stop it.
I wish she was still with me, to be honest. She passed peacefully 2 years ago, but it was due to complications during surgery. Loved her like she was a second mother. I always tell myself i will never live below her expectations, and yet i still sometimes fail...
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itskennyandjosh (12/16/2015) [-] When i told my parents nothing happened, they didn't do **** , and to be honest, if i wasn't a pacifist and if i knew that nothing would've happened to the teacher after that **** , i would've thrown rocks at her while it was happening and the worst part about it? i only got in trouble cause me and my friend were throwing up food and catching it in our mouth but the teacher just hated me
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itskennyandjosh (12/16/2015) [-] The worst it did was make me ******* terrified for middle school, cause she said that teachers there are way worse When really most of my teachers let the kids swear
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anonchief (12/16/2015) [-] Ugh. I was terrified of middle school, but for the wrong reasons. My elementary school's primary transfer was to one middle school, but that one was too far away, so i went to a different one. I was so ******* scared of losing all of my friends... which i did, all but one. I only have one friend from my elementary school that i still know and he goes to my highschool, too. I did make new friends, though. And the transfer to highschool was just as scary, mainly because i just didnt feel ready. My grades and attendance would say the same story... *shudders*
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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] Basically, it's a room that people can go to if they do not like the direction a discussion is taking. In this room, they play calming music and have a bunch of gentle stimuli, in an effort to treat college students like infants. Actually, infants can be pretty hardy, so treat them as less tough than a six-month-old.
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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] Just say you're non-practicing trans, and that you were triggered by a discussion. You'll be right in.
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toosexyforyou (12/16/2015) [-] In reality, it's gonna end up being a quiet room where people take their lunch breaks or study so there really isn't a down side to creating a room like this. Anyone would be able to enter.
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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] It would be, if it weren't for the fact that it's specifically meant for avoidance of uncomfortable topics. Hell, a library is basically a quiet place to help de-stress, but ideas are shared there, and we can't have that.
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zzzanzitron (12/16/2015) [-] "oh noo, somebody agrees with an opinion that I don't. Lemme listen some music at a room specifially designed to let retards not hear opinions, please."
Sometimes the West has its head too far its own ass. But what kind of barbaric thinking is this?
We really need scheduled world wars in order to not let the wave of stupid crush and drag human civilization to Hell with them.
Sometimes the West has its head too far its own ass. But what kind of barbaric thinking is this?
We really need scheduled world wars in order to not let the wave of stupid crush and drag human civilization to Hell with them.
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blackmageewizardt ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] ""oh noo, somebody agrees with an opinion that I don't. Lemme listen some music at a room specifially designed to let retards not hear opinions, please."
Sometimes the West has its head too far its own ass. But what kind of barbaric thinking is this?"
Wow not so fast mate, Europe does not even consider such redicilous ideas. A lot of redicilous Topics come even just from the US. I did not even know that there is something to argue about ******* toilet seats and i though it was some south park running joke.
Sometimes the West has its head too far its own ass. But what kind of barbaric thinking is this?"
Wow not so fast mate, Europe does not even consider such redicilous ideas. A lot of redicilous Topics come even just from the US. I did not even know that there is something to argue about ******* toilet seats and i though it was some south park running joke.
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zzzanzitron (12/16/2015) [-] with all the EU's immigration thing going on (and me not being in either Americas or Europe), nobody should be surprised when the european left wing pulls this card, too.
But probably it won't be used mainly as anti-disagreement room, more like for introverted people who hates sound and aren't allowed to eat in libraries.
I could see myself spending my outside world time in this room.
but still, main idea sounds crazy
But probably it won't be used mainly as anti-disagreement room, more like for introverted people who hates sound and aren't allowed to eat in libraries.
I could see myself spending my outside world time in this room.
but still, main idea sounds crazy
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threeeighteen ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] So in other words, if you go into that room then you admit to being a weak cunt.
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reallifepolandball (12/16/2015) [-] Is it like those no gun zones? I bet safe spaces will keep out opinions just as well as no gun zones will keep out people with guns
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sgtmajjohnson (12/16/2015) [-] The unfortunate thing about that is that someone can be arrested for bringing a gun into a gun free zone, and people can be reprimanded for sharing their offensive opinions. So if someone just wants to do damage once, sure, they can do that in both cases. However, it isn't good for discourse or the free flow of ideas.
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thelastelephant (12/16/2015) [-] tfw my university had flyers advertising dedicated "free speech zones" that were the size of a bathroom stall and only available for a week.
If limiting free speech to only small areas doesn't violate the first amendment, I don't know what does.
If limiting free speech to only small areas doesn't violate the first amendment, I don't know what does.
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anon (12/16/2015) [-]
When you're using it as a weapon to attack people with? Yeah. It's not just the content of the speech that's important, it's how the spoken word is wielded.
I can say a bunch of true **** that'll have some people I've met wishing they had the strength to kill themselves, and nothing I would have said would be (out of context) illegal or register as outright harmful or hatespeech. Yet I would be using it with the intention to harm these people.
This is how a lot of bullying and marginalizing gets done these days, and there's no defense against it. No one can back you up, because the people who WANT to offend, insult, and belittle you know how to NOT get in trouble for it, and will work within the rules and expectations in order to mentally or emotionally wound you.
People need places to de-stress from **** like this. Otherwise we're going to see more Columbines in the future, and I'm not going to bat an eye, because everyone tried to say it's a bad idea.
I can say a bunch of true **** that'll have some people I've met wishing they had the strength to kill themselves, and nothing I would have said would be (out of context) illegal or register as outright harmful or hatespeech. Yet I would be using it with the intention to harm these people.
This is how a lot of bullying and marginalizing gets done these days, and there's no defense against it. No one can back you up, because the people who WANT to offend, insult, and belittle you know how to NOT get in trouble for it, and will work within the rules and expectations in order to mentally or emotionally wound you.
People need places to de-stress from **** like this. Otherwise we're going to see more Columbines in the future, and I'm not going to bat an eye, because everyone tried to say it's a bad idea.
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vorarephilia 
(12/16/2015) [-] I'll say it again, there have always been those ******** . the same ones who used to kick up a fuss if a movie hinted at a married couple sleeping in the same bed, because jesus. Now those same kind of people kick up a fuss over someone hinting that rapists exist, because feminism.
We're the same goddamn species of inbred apes we've always been. Getting the giggles is not new (pic related). making dick jokes isn't new, and by God if one of us find an excuse to feel special, then you better believe we'll take it, dignity be damned.
Literally. nothing. has. changed.
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We're the same goddamn species of inbred apes we've always been. Getting the giggles is not new (pic related). making dick jokes isn't new, and by God if one of us find an excuse to feel special, then you better believe we'll take it, dignity be damned.
Literally. nothing. has. changed.
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senorfrog (12/16/2015) [-] I don't know why, but ever since this new form of feminism, the internet getting all cutsey/ lovey dovey, college aged kids acting all pc/ all emotional all the time, and just a general wimpening of people, it all has really pissed me off. It shouldn't since it doesn't effect my life, but just since it started I have been growing in anger and wishing to harm these people, spread hate, and wish for their demise even though I used to be very chill. I feel like I just want to bash these people's heads in while screaming "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! while doing it. I swear I am not trying to be edgy, it's just really pissing me off and I want to see it burn away, get back to getting everyone toughening up and doing what needs to be done.
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comicfun (12/16/2015) [-]
I make this rant without reading anything anyone else has put.
GROW THE **** UP! Words only hurt if you let them, coming from friends and family are harder to ignore and can hurt deeper. But when some anon prick on the Internet, hell even someone with a tag line but you've never known them, seen them before or even knew of their existence, their words can mean less than nothing.
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, on this site can insult me to the cows come home, dogs and cats dance together and Cthulu comes to claim our souls, and I won't take offence because you don't know me and I don't know you. So why should they?
I've been bullied most of my school life, because I was the scrawny runt that wouldn't fight back, would run away from conflict and was a mama's boy. When I was a kid the words hurt me, because I didn't know any better and that's what kids do. When I hit my teens the words of my bullies became nothing, I ignored them everyday and only a few times throughout my 6 years did I get into an actual fight.
Cyber bullying can be serious when a person is constantly berated with hate slurs from local people, I'm not denying that and yes, everyone has their limits but take it from someone who was bullied half of his life, words only have power if you give them it and there will always be people willing to help, if you can just ask for it, you can and will receive help whether it's your family, friends, teachers or even strangers on the Internet. There are whole forums dedicated to helping you, so please, if you are truly receiving cyber bullying, please look for them and know they will help, before you do anything drastic.
Now if you were always popular, had people hanging onto your every word, did the bullying, thought you were better than everyone and and was treated like a special ******* snowflake. Here's a rude awakening. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD! People can and will criticise everything you do and say, good or bad, because thanks to social media more people than ever are connected together, like a family. And every family has that ******** anon bitch that will try to piss you off.
Look to your parents, your grandparents, and listen to the hardships they've gone through. Most likely your grandparents, like mine, served in WWII. My grandad, God rest his soul, was an RAF pilot and when I was a kid I listened to his stories of watching his friends go to fight, seeing them die, knowing that every time he flew his plane and got into a fight there was a good chance he would die. That is true conflict.
There are people living in certain parts of the world worrying about being kidnapped and sold into slavery, being mugged at knife or gun point and killed over the smallest of things.
There are religious terrorist twats right now hurting and killing people because they want things to go back to the dark ages and are trying to promote a religion that doesn't support them and goes what. Brave men and women are fighting them so they don't succeed.
And you want to complain and say some stranger on the Internet, some words written by a person you've probably never met or ever will meet, and say you don't have the strength, the common sense, to say their words don't effect you.
You WANT those words to effect you, to hurt you. Just so you can draw attention to yourself and say your a special ******* snowflake again.
If your being bullied on the Internet, a person or group of people following you to every website you go to, every forum you talk in, destroy every online game you play, hack and release valuable data on you, then you need help and people will give it.
If you put up a single stupid comment, a stupid picture of being caught doing something embarrassing, a video or doing something stupid or saying something racist. Then don't complain when people riff on you.
Some people truly need help from cyber bullying.
Some people need to grow the **** up.
RANT ******* OVER. NOW SAY WHAT YOU WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GROW THE **** UP! Words only hurt if you let them, coming from friends and family are harder to ignore and can hurt deeper. But when some anon prick on the Internet, hell even someone with a tag line but you've never known them, seen them before or even knew of their existence, their words can mean less than nothing.
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, on this site can insult me to the cows come home, dogs and cats dance together and Cthulu comes to claim our souls, and I won't take offence because you don't know me and I don't know you. So why should they?
I've been bullied most of my school life, because I was the scrawny runt that wouldn't fight back, would run away from conflict and was a mama's boy. When I was a kid the words hurt me, because I didn't know any better and that's what kids do. When I hit my teens the words of my bullies became nothing, I ignored them everyday and only a few times throughout my 6 years did I get into an actual fight.
Cyber bullying can be serious when a person is constantly berated with hate slurs from local people, I'm not denying that and yes, everyone has their limits but take it from someone who was bullied half of his life, words only have power if you give them it and there will always be people willing to help, if you can just ask for it, you can and will receive help whether it's your family, friends, teachers or even strangers on the Internet. There are whole forums dedicated to helping you, so please, if you are truly receiving cyber bullying, please look for them and know they will help, before you do anything drastic.
Now if you were always popular, had people hanging onto your every word, did the bullying, thought you were better than everyone and and was treated like a special ******* snowflake. Here's a rude awakening. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD! People can and will criticise everything you do and say, good or bad, because thanks to social media more people than ever are connected together, like a family. And every family has that ******** anon bitch that will try to piss you off.
Look to your parents, your grandparents, and listen to the hardships they've gone through. Most likely your grandparents, like mine, served in WWII. My grandad, God rest his soul, was an RAF pilot and when I was a kid I listened to his stories of watching his friends go to fight, seeing them die, knowing that every time he flew his plane and got into a fight there was a good chance he would die. That is true conflict.
There are people living in certain parts of the world worrying about being kidnapped and sold into slavery, being mugged at knife or gun point and killed over the smallest of things.
There are religious terrorist twats right now hurting and killing people because they want things to go back to the dark ages and are trying to promote a religion that doesn't support them and goes what. Brave men and women are fighting them so they don't succeed.
And you want to complain and say some stranger on the Internet, some words written by a person you've probably never met or ever will meet, and say you don't have the strength, the common sense, to say their words don't effect you.
You WANT those words to effect you, to hurt you. Just so you can draw attention to yourself and say your a special ******* snowflake again.
If your being bullied on the Internet, a person or group of people following you to every website you go to, every forum you talk in, destroy every online game you play, hack and release valuable data on you, then you need help and people will give it.
If you put up a single stupid comment, a stupid picture of being caught doing something embarrassing, a video or doing something stupid or saying something racist. Then don't complain when people riff on you.
Some people truly need help from cyber bullying.
Some people need to grow the **** up.
RANT ******* OVER. NOW SAY WHAT YOU WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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iqequalzero (12/16/2015) [-] "Words only hurt if you let them"
No, words hurt if they hurt. If you wanna ******** yourself and go "that didnt hurt me, no sir." thats fine though.
No, words hurt if they hurt. If you wanna ******** yourself and go "that didnt hurt me, no sir." thats fine though.
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shigiddy ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] أنت قطعة من القرف. تقتل نفسك
Did those words hurt you? No, because they mean nothing to you. Words only have the power we give them. That's why black people call each other ****** , but chimp out when white people call them the same exact word. If ****** was truly a hurtful word, it would be hurtful no matter who the speaker is, or the recipient. But it's not. Because words only have the power you give them.
Vid ******* related.
Did those words hurt you? No, because they mean nothing to you. Words only have the power we give them. That's why black people call each other ****** , but chimp out when white people call them the same exact word. If ****** was truly a hurtful word, it would be hurtful no matter who the speaker is, or the recipient. But it's not. Because words only have the power you give them.
Vid ******* related.
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iqequalzero (12/16/2015) [-] Obviously they cant hurt me if I dont understand them, thats not an argument at all.
Unless you are some kind of robot, at some point in your life, someone has said something to you that really hurt your feelings. Dont act like people cant **** you up with words.
****** isnt exactly a good argument either. They used it like that as a show of defiance. That doesnt mean its ok for everyone to say it to them.
Unless you are some kind of robot, at some point in your life, someone has said something to you that really hurt your feelings. Dont act like people cant **** you up with words.
****** isnt exactly a good argument either. They used it like that as a show of defiance. That doesnt mean its ok for everyone to say it to them.
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shigiddy ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
They sure did. And the fact that it ****** me up is a problem with ME, not with THEM. That's the whole point. I was wrong to let something as simple as words cause me such distress. Now I don't let people's opinions of me matter, unless I decide that their opinion is personally worth something to me. But even in that case, if those special people say something that hurts me, it is because I deliberately gave them the power to do so. Because I choose to value what they think of me.
That's why someone insulting me doesn't faze me anymore. Because I don't give a **** about them. Why would I care what some **** at the bar says? But if my mother says the same insult, it will definitely hurt, because I have chosen to value her opinion. I can easily take that power away from her, and her insults will mean the same as anyone else, which is nothing. Because I have taken away that power from her.
That is why words are not hurtful. Words have no power, you do. It all depends on who you give that power to.
That's why someone insulting me doesn't faze me anymore. Because I don't give a **** about them. Why would I care what some **** at the bar says? But if my mother says the same insult, it will definitely hurt, because I have chosen to value her opinion. I can easily take that power away from her, and her insults will mean the same as anyone else, which is nothing. Because I have taken away that power from her.
That is why words are not hurtful. Words have no power, you do. It all depends on who you give that power to.
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iqequalzero (12/16/2015) [-] Thats just semantics then. Yes, your mental state and what you value is what allows words to hurt you, its still whats being said that hurts.
Most people dont "allow" words to hurt them, it just happens, boom, hurtful **** said, person hurt, the end.
Most people dont "allow" words to hurt them, it just happens, boom, hurtful **** said, person hurt, the end.
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shigiddy ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
And it hurt them because they are letting those strangers have power over them. And that's the problem with the "safe spaces" idea, because it assumes that the speaker is the one with power, when it is the recipient who is the one with true power.
A suitable metaphor would be BDSM. The dominant is the one who seems to be in control of the submissive, but it is actually the submissive who is in control. When the sub gives the safe word, everything stops immediately. The power the dom has only lasts as far as the sub allows it to. When the sub says stop, the dom stops. That is true power. The power of the dom is only an illusion.
It's the same with words. It seems like the speaker is the one with power, who uses words to hurt. But like the sub in BDSM, the power of the speaker is just an illusion. The receiver can choose whether or not to value the words the speaker is saying. That's why there are no words that are inherently hurtful; the context is what matters. And part of that context is whether or not you give a **** about what is being said.
That doesn't mean that the pain those people feel isn't real. It absolutely is real. But the solution isn't to make "safe spaces" to escape from the speaker, but to teach those people to take that power they give to the speaker back.
A suitable metaphor would be BDSM. The dominant is the one who seems to be in control of the submissive, but it is actually the submissive who is in control. When the sub gives the safe word, everything stops immediately. The power the dom has only lasts as far as the sub allows it to. When the sub says stop, the dom stops. That is true power. The power of the dom is only an illusion.
It's the same with words. It seems like the speaker is the one with power, who uses words to hurt. But like the sub in BDSM, the power of the speaker is just an illusion. The receiver can choose whether or not to value the words the speaker is saying. That's why there are no words that are inherently hurtful; the context is what matters. And part of that context is whether or not you give a **** about what is being said.
That doesn't mean that the pain those people feel isn't real. It absolutely is real. But the solution isn't to make "safe spaces" to escape from the speaker, but to teach those people to take that power they give to the speaker back.
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iqequalzero (12/16/2015) [-] Most of us dont have the kind of emotional control needed to just decide to not be hurt by words. Its a nice enough analogy you use, but in the "real world" most of those subs dont know the safe word.
I think safe spaces are ******** as well, just to make that clear. I just disagree on the whole hurtful words bit.
I think safe spaces are ******** as well, just to make that clear. I just disagree on the whole hurtful words bit.
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shigiddy ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
I get where you're coming from, and I do agree that in the real world, most subs don't know the safe word. But that doesn't mean there is no safe word, or that it can't be taught to them.
I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite for arguing the point so hard, because I do really try not to say something that could hurt someone else; but the reason is not because my words are inherently hurtful, but because I know there are people out there who don't know how to take that power away from me.
I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite for arguing the point so hard, because I do really try not to say something that could hurt someone else; but the reason is not because my words are inherently hurtful, but because I know there are people out there who don't know how to take that power away from me.
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comexx (12/16/2015) [-] If a random person tells me "I'm a fat lazy piece of **** that should die.", I don't care, because that person is nothing to me nor will he ever be. If one of my friends or family members said that, it would hurt me. Regardless of how they insult me, it's not the insult that hurts, it's the fact that someone close to you wants to insult and hurt you.
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iqequalzero (12/16/2015) [-] Bagage can also be a factor. Like if you were bullied in school and someone years later insult you in the same way they used to.
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comexx (12/16/2015) [-] Honestly, all the people that bullied me at school only made me immune to those insults. They can't possibly strike deep because they don't know me deeply. Nowadays when someone insults me like they did, I just laugh because that is one of the stupidest insults (you're fat/ugly/stupid/retarded, etc.), but if it's a genuinely hard insult, I laugh with them. I basically view it as a roast. If you still haven't gotten over those insults a long time ago, then you should really start working on it.
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thechosentroll (12/16/2015) [-] Yes, those small groups of spoiled college brats in a single country are representative of the 8 billion people on this planet. Truly, humanity is ****** . Either that or you're a whiny little bitch.
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darkjustifier (12/16/2015) [-] now, now to be fair a few billion of those people have designated ******** spots
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kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] Difference is that these small groups of spoiled brats are actually succeeding in creating censorship and safe spaces on campus. In fact professors are the ones feeding them this ******** .
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iridium (12/16/2015) [-] The thing is, I bet you if you forced these people into bootcamp, at least some of them would realize that **** way bigger than their feelings is at stake and would toughen up. The human race is a remarkably resilient species when backed into a corner. So don't give up on them yet.
But I would also like to say something else: Sometimes, words can hurt too. Even to people in the military, words can hurt on a psychological level sometimes. So don't get the wrong idea that because military men can fight and die in battle that somehow that means that you can't be hurt by what someone says. What you don't do is pretend that you need a safe space to shield yourself from those words.
But I would also like to say something else: Sometimes, words can hurt too. Even to people in the military, words can hurt on a psychological level sometimes. So don't get the wrong idea that because military men can fight and die in battle that somehow that means that you can't be hurt by what someone says. What you don't do is pretend that you need a safe space to shield yourself from those words.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] Speaking from someone who was clinically diagnosed with GAD and PTSD (from a car crash and family issues) I do say that PTSD is something that can be acquired through any means of trauma.
Remember: trauma is subjective. The car crash and family issues I had could be shrugged off as nothing to some, but I was a kid, young and fragile, I had no idea HOW to deal with it so I dealt with it by freaking out and having anxiety over it...
Also, stop comparing soldiers to regular people, PTSD does not just pertain to soldiers.
Remember: trauma is subjective. The car crash and family issues I had could be shrugged off as nothing to some, but I was a kid, young and fragile, I had no idea HOW to deal with it so I dealt with it by freaking out and having anxiety over it...
Also, stop comparing soldiers to regular people, PTSD does not just pertain to soldiers.
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jakedefense (12/16/2015) [-] I forgot to sign in. I take responsibility for this comment.
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anon (12/16/2015) [-]
**** sucks when you're a kid, I really feel for you. The dumb cunts who claim PTSD or mental trauma due to some anon insulting them on the internet can't compare to that totally helpless abject terror you are susceptible to as a child, especially when the cause is a family member. Took me over 20 years of hell on earth to get a handle on my **** . My father in law has seizures from abuse he suffered as a child, and I've seen grown men reduced to shivering tears and screaming after coming back from military service because kids shot roman candles at his house. It's just as bad as this ******** trendy trivialization of rape, I have family who suffered through this, many of them at very young ages and by a PARENT. Bitching about imaginary damage does not make you a ******* hero, not when so many people have gone through so much real tragedy and struggled and spent decades rebuilding physically and psychologically simply to retain or regain some basic functionality and humanity. Good luck to you man. Posting as anon because I have put up too many pictures of myself on this site and don't want people knowing jack **** about my past.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] PTSD is ****** and it wasn't until I did LSD that I stopped being so worried about it and stopped having panic attacks all the time because something would remind me of my anxiety or something...
PTSD is a serious issue that a lot of people misunderstand.
I had it as a child and through most of my younger teen years...
****** the worst... No man, woman and ESPECIALLY a child should ever have to feel pain like that.
I used to be so bad with it that I would have to go outside to make sure we weren't getting bombed because I was ****** up enough to believe that we were going to be nuked...
And this was when I was like... 11?
**** that no 11 year old should even be concerned about... This has also brought on true OCD tendencies (I've never been diagnosed with OCD, so I can't say I do have it, just tendencies) like having to go with my mom everywhere to make sure she doesn't get in a car wreck, having to call her all the time to make sure she's ok.
All because I was in a car wreck with her. ****** not fun and it ruins my life.
It's not nearly as bad as it once was, but it still lingers....
PTSD is a serious issue that a lot of people misunderstand.
I had it as a child and through most of my younger teen years...
****** the worst... No man, woman and ESPECIALLY a child should ever have to feel pain like that.
I used to be so bad with it that I would have to go outside to make sure we weren't getting bombed because I was ****** up enough to believe that we were going to be nuked...
And this was when I was like... 11?
**** that no 11 year old should even be concerned about... This has also brought on true OCD tendencies (I've never been diagnosed with OCD, so I can't say I do have it, just tendencies) like having to go with my mom everywhere to make sure she doesn't get in a car wreck, having to call her all the time to make sure she's ok.
All because I was in a car wreck with her. ****** not fun and it ruins my life.
It's not nearly as bad as it once was, but it still lingers....
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shigiddy ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
The reason the comparison is made is because claiming that someone made fun of them gave them PTSD devalues people (like soldiers) who actually are suffering the depression, the hyper-alertness, the night terrors, the insomnia, the outbursts of anger.
These people aren't claiming PTSD because they're having those symptoms. They're claiming it to be edgy and pretend that they are special and deserve special treatment. It's almost a game to them, like they get points for being more "unique" than others. And when people keep seeing these people claim PTSD over and over and over, it loses its meaning to them. It makes people think that PTSD isn't a big deal, or its "not a REAL mental illness" when it really, really ******* is.
These people aren't claiming PTSD because they're having those symptoms. They're claiming it to be edgy and pretend that they are special and deserve special treatment. It's almost a game to them, like they get points for being more "unique" than others. And when people keep seeing these people claim PTSD over and over and over, it loses its meaning to them. It makes people think that PTSD isn't a big deal, or its "not a REAL mental illness" when it really, really ******* is.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] Keyword: subjective.
To me or you it seems very silly. But to them, it does truly hurt and **** with them.
Not to say that gives them reason to act irrational about it... Just shedding some light.
To me or you it seems very silly. But to them, it does truly hurt and **** with them.
Not to say that gives them reason to act irrational about it... Just shedding some light.
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YoursTruley (12/16/2015) [-] Id have to disagree. At least in the APA and DSM-V definition of PTSD. PTSD does not come from being told things online. It is just not traumatic enough to the brain to cause an issue.
You should read about the neurological foundations of such disorders, very interesting.
My opinion and what I know from a good amount of study on PTSD, doesn't mean im right though.
You should read about the neurological foundations of such disorders, very interesting.
My opinion and what I know from a good amount of study on PTSD, doesn't mean im right though.
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donatelo (12/16/2015) [-] like he said, its more subjective. Likewise, to even consider ptsd from online harassment you obviously have to look at it from a case by case basis. but even then, consider real life cases in which online bullying led to actual suicide. A traumatic experience online could be, for example, an instance in which there was a flury of messages being sent at once, recieving and mass sending of private pictures, death threats against family while posting adresses etc.
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YoursTruley (12/16/2015) [-] Which I can agree causes distress, but not PTSD. If you studied psychology (I guessing not as a major) you would know that disorders still need to be objectively verified. Most of those instances don't fall under PTSD, some may fall under ASD. Even then it is unlikely. Like i stated, with PTSD comes along neurological changes that ARE objectively verifiable which distinctly point to PTSD.
Distress =/= PTSD
Distress =/= PTSD
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donatelo (12/16/2015) [-] Ive studied it as a major. obviously, which is why i am saying that this is a case by case basis, which would also explain why most dont fall under it. it is completely case dependent. Also note that criterion 2 which would most likey disambiguate this conversation was revised when they updated from IV to 5.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] Well, fair enough...
Where could I read about the neurological stuff?
Where could I read about the neurological stuff?
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YoursTruley (12/16/2015) [-] Here is one: Nutt DJ, & Malizia AL (2004). Structural and functional brain changes in posttraumatic stress disorder. The Journal of clinical psychiatry, 65 Suppl 1, 11-7 PMID
Most are research papers, you can search for them you go to uni.
Most are research papers, you can search for them you go to uni.
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kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] PTSD isn't subjective, it's a real medical condition, you can't get PTSD from something like being told mean things on the internet, people that genuinely think that gave them PTSD probably already have a different kind of mental illness to them.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] I know that now, prior to this comment I didn't know that PTSD was something that can only come about through a certain amount of trauma.
Although I still think people like this have a point, so we can't just say they're wrong.
I'm sure they have mental disorders too to freak out this much over words.
Although I still think people like this have a point, so we can't just say they're wrong.
I'm sure they have mental disorders too to freak out this much over words.
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sausydangles (12/16/2015) [-] But most of these young men were regular people, they were drafted and fought because that was what they were expected to do.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] Pretty ******* soft, I can't disagree.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
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innocentbabies (12/16/2015) [-]
I get what you're trying to say. But I don't know if holding the single bloodiest conflict in human history up as a positive example is the way to say it.
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reinbowxdash (12/16/2015) [-] **reinbowxdash used "*roll picture*"**
**reinbowxdash rolled image** MY EYES!!!!!
PLEASE STAB THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**reinbowxdash rolled image** MY EYES!!!!!
PLEASE STAB THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gandalfthewhite (12/16/2015) [-] Personally i'd say the draft is perfectly fine and in fact probably should be enforced if your country is actively being invaded. For WW2 for example Britain definitely should and needed the draft but say on the other hand the draft for Vietnam was not needed
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Gandalfthewhite (12/16/2015) [-] i'm 20 if that helps, so if the draft was brought back then i'd be a prime candidate.
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darksideofthebeast (12/16/2015) [-] Yo don't argue with this guy... he'll just call you a 14 year old and laugh about it, not have any actual argument.
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Walnuts (12/15/2015) [-] Doesn't it make you want to wrastle all them cry babies up and give'em a good spanking? I think we all deserve a good spanking sometimes. Me first, please lord spank me through the window
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theoldfritz ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] Now i am happy that i live in the second world
a void between the third and first
i still have all the privileges of a first world and the isolation of the thrid world
a void between the third and first
i still have all the privileges of a first world and the isolation of the thrid world
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theoldfritz ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-] southeast/central europe
We have SJWs and Gays, but still a lot less than the west and a bit more than the east
We have SJWs and Gays, but still a lot less than the west and a bit more than the east
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balor (12/16/2015) [-] What about the 18 year olds who have to shoot at children who might have bombs strapped to their chest?
