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PSA. Not meant to be funny, but should be up voted.. You could be expelled even if she consented: Actual screen capture of text messages from John Doe vs. Occid

Not meant to be funny, but should be up voted.

Tags: FEMINISM
You could be expelled
even if she consented:
Actual screen capture of text messages from John Doe vs. Occidental in LA. Superior Court
John was expelled.
What can you do to protect yourself?
ff she has touched alcohol, do not touch her.
Document and save her consent; never delete conversations.
What you need to know if you are accused of sexual misconduct:
Your college will treat you as guilty under current interpretations of Federal Title IX.
Consult a lawyer before you say anything - your school will not help you prove your innocence.
Call your parents. You should not be ashamed of being falsely accused. We can help explain to
your parents why this is happening to hundreds of college men.
Prepare to fight for your future.
Start here:
org thefore. org
org . com
Call:
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#2 - naturalsoda [OP](09/02/2015) [+] (4 replies)
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The PSA is from this article,
www.washingtonexaminer.com/due-process-groups-distribute-warning-flyers-to-campus-men/article/2571201
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#12 - funpunk (09/02/2015) [-]
I don't know how it got to this point, but it's time to put an end to this ******** before it's too late.
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User avatar #31 to #12 - punxy (09/02/2015) [-]
What if it already is? :<
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User avatar #63 to #12 - lolollo (09/02/2015) [-]
This is typical "give an inch, take a mile" behavior. Women started to note that they can accuse a guy of rape and reap all sorts of benefits without the pesky process typically involved in our legal system

You know...proving the crime happened.
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User avatar #72 to #63 - frenzyhero (09/02/2015) [-]
If some chick threatens to say you raped her, just say **** it and rape her anyway. Statistically you'll lose the case anyway so you might as well get your rocks off. Or you could kill her.

Why ******* bother at this point? US legal system is a joke. Everything favors the woman, it's ******** , and it's because 90% of them are too ******* incompetent to do anything useful on their own.
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#158 to #72 - arteries (09/02/2015) [-]
Your best bet IS to kill her. Either way your life is destroyed permanently forever. There is however the chance of the murder going unsolved.
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#181 to #158 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
at least you wont be a sex offender
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#191 to #158 - funpunk (09/02/2015) [-]
But then you become the monster they think you are.
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User avatar #272 to #191 - heartlessrobot (09/02/2015) [-]
Not if you hide the body well enough.
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#314 to #272 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
And if you don't
Hey, at least murderers are less monstrous than sex offenders in our society.
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#334 to #191 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
you become the monster they made you into.
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User avatar #372 to #191 - elenalkarnur (09/03/2015) [-]
If you're going to be treated like a Nazi/criminal/rapist/the scum of creation when you aren't one, you might as well be one.

When people insist on treating an ethical person the same way they treat an unethical person, then they put those two behaviors on equal footing. And now you're getting all the costs, drawbacks and punishments of the unethical behavior without any of the (illegitimate) benefits, and you're being deprived of the rewards of your (actual) ethical behavior.
e.g. when women demonize all husbands and pass laws that assume that all husbands are horrible abusive pieces of **** .
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#67 to #63 - rollfourexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
It reminds me a lot of how some children will do more and more drastic things to test the boundaries of what they can get away with. If someone genuinely thinks they can get their way with this then the only thing preventing them is their own morals and self-control.
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#5 - udo (09/02/2015) [-]
>Your college will treat you as guilty under current interpretations of Federal Title IX
>Prepare to fight for your future

There is a fire burning inside of me
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User avatar #61 to #5 - themajesticsnail (09/02/2015) [-]
I think the college treats you as guilty just to make sure. If you are not a rapist and the college treated you as one, there's almost no harm done. They could even give you a compensation.
But if you are in fact a rapist and they treat you as you were not, the worst case scenario could be really nasty.

Anyways, I could be wrong.
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User avatar #70 to #61 - kelp ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
You say theres almost no harm done, but in the content its shown that a rape accusation can lead to a male being expelled, even if its not true. How is this just in any way or form? Dont forget that the accused most of the times suffers verbal abuse and gets isolated from the rest of the students, because who wants to be friends with a rapist right?
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User avatar #337 to #70 - octopusafrican (09/02/2015) [-]
Innocent until proven guilty my ass. You sit in jail waiting to go to court, already being treated like a criminal, unless someone on the outside has a substantial amount of money on hand to bail you out...
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User avatar #271 to #70 - reginleif ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
>Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

That doesn't apply to colleges friend. They're not real police. I'm not defending their policies just pointing out that technically what they're doing is legal.

They DO have too much power and they should be stopped, somehow, but as it stands they're doing nothing legally wrong and they're covering their own asses under title 9.
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User avatar #73 to #70 - themajesticsnail (09/02/2015) [-]
I'm aware of that principle, yes. Also, suspects are detained and most of the time isolated from environments in wich they could keep on breaking the law, if the charges are on serious felonies like that, much like you don't let a suspected pedophile go near a park, even if it's innocent.
And finally, I doubt the college tells students to **** with someone that has been charged for rape. Colleges don't want to get involved, so they just segregate the person with rape charges until proven innocent.
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#89 to #73 - megayoming (09/02/2015) [-]
So If I said you were a rapist,

1.Any and all Benefits or assistance you were getting to go to college is now gone.

2. Any and all work you did for however long you were in the said college is now null and void.

3. You are permanently labeled a rapist and this information is usually in the form of news articals.

4. Anyone hiring you, Reviewing you, or even doing a background check is going to see this.

How the **** does this make right the wrong of a screaming asshole who just wants to **** with you. Even after all these cases men have been locked up for 20+ years. www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lake-county-drops-rape-charges-met-20150309-story.html Wemon get off with a warning over some of the hard core laws in place, Im not saying all of them get away with it. A lot of them are in prison, but few are behind it because of a false accusation.
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User avatar #117 to #89 - Daeiros (09/02/2015) [-]
I think that if it can be proven to a preponderance of evidence that you have leveled a false accusation with the intention of abusing the legal system to do harm to someone, you should be subject to exactly the same punishment your intended victim would have been had you succeeded in your lies.
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User avatar #85 to #73 - kelp ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
But we are talking about being expelled, not suspended. Having all your educational work being undone by an accusation is not ok.
Ofcourse they dnt tell people to **** with someone, but at the same time they do nothing to protect him from it either. By staying silent they allow people to decide themselves and most people decide to side with the "weaker" sex.
You should take a look at the alleged rape of emma sulkowicz at Columbia university. There are some interviews with the parents of the accused which gives a lot of information, but Ive only seen it in german so I dont know if you can read it
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User avatar #297 to #73 - centurionprime ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
of course the colleges don't tell the students to **** with someone accused. PEOPLE WILL DO THAT **** ANYWAY. what's wrong with you?
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User avatar #86 to #73 - quantumranger (09/02/2015) [-]
If someone is willing to falsely accuse someone else of rape, I'm pretty sure they have no qualms about telling everyone else the same thing
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#322 to #73 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
Hes not saying they`re right in doing so, hes just saying that they`re trying to protect themselves. If he does in fact turn out to have actually raped her and they had done nothing, the feminists would have shut down the school.
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User avatar #92 to #61 - greyhoundfd (09/02/2015) [-]
>Almost no harm done
You know, except for your reputation being ******* destroyed, your false guilt being broadcast across the ******* nation, never being hired by a reputable institution, and receiving death threats from all the white knights who believe whatever CNN tells them.
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User avatar #273 to #92 - reginleif ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
Their issue is with the press then, not the colleges. Read my above comment to see how I feel about THEM. But the college discloses, but it is the press who sensationalizes.
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User avatar #296 to #61 - dogwars (09/02/2015) [-]
I don't know ho many of you know about Magic the Gathering, but there was a very ****** up case of this happening and then coming back to bite someone in the ass 9 years later. Here's his story: www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/35q0yx/in_light_of_recent_discussion_a_post_by_zach_jesse/
Because some bitch thought he raped her, he has even had one of his lifelong hobbies taken away from him. False rape charges are not okay in any way shape or form.
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#293 to #61 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
Actually, I have seen the mere accusation of rape almost destroy a man's career. There will always be people who look at it as "Well they said you did it so it must be true." If they expel you from school, that is at least a semester that you lose progress on. You lose the money you paid for classes, the money you spent on room and board and overall you lose all the time you put in. If a school expelled me on a false charge, you can be sure I would sue them. I would go after them for everything that they cost me and also the damage to my reputation. To put it simply, a cop told my friend, the man who was accused of rape, "I don't care what the judge says, you ******* did it."
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User avatar #310 to #61 - pocketstooheavy (09/02/2015) [-]
>No harm done for school treating you as rapist.

You're an idiot, lol.
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#387 to #61 - anon (09/09/2015) [-]
Lol "I could be wrong", you are wrong arsehole. Your logic makes no sense and you sound like the type of person who would probably scream rape if you didn't like the way someone looked at you. And btw the other scenario of being falsely accused is just as bad as getting off with rape, because someones life is still ruined, no more family, no more career, no nothing, just because an arse like you thinks he should prove himself innocent before he can have whatever is left of his life back. Have a horrible day sir, you are a piece of **** on earth.
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#376 to #61 - anon (09/05/2015) [-]
being accused of rape...is the worst kind of ****
"almost no harm done"
uhm...nah...i dont think so
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User avatar #352 to #61 - juter (09/03/2015) [-]
you're a ******* retard
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#20 to #5 - ogdonaldengel (09/02/2015) [-]
Well, yeah, obviously if you're convicted of rape you're not going to be found innocent right away. False rape convictions rarely happen, so why should scum be treated as if they were innocent even if they're not?

Why would anyone lie about rape? If she drank or abused a substance, then "consented", obviously she didn't really because she wasn't sober. That's the guys fault if he decides to follow through without proper consent. Quit acting like men who don't get consent are the victims.
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#100 to #95 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
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User avatar #142 to #44 - funpunk (09/02/2015) [-]
I've been thinking about starting Jojo, but it just seems like it'd take forever to get caught up. Would it matter that much if I just skipped to Stardust Crusaders, or should I start from the beginning?
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#164 to #142 - arenaferox (09/02/2015) [-]
Part 1 and 2 (jojo2 012) are really good
Part 3(Stardust crusaders) is okay(gets kinda boring until the end) ZA WARUDO
and I'm reading part 4 right now which is pretty alright
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User avatar #148 to #142 - daix (09/02/2015) [-]
There is a lot of good **** in the first season that you might not wanna miss. Plus, the protagonist from the last generation is in the second season.
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User avatar #130 to #44 - josuke ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
They must be near by
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User avatar #115 to #20 - Daeiros (09/02/2015) [-]
Why would anyone lie about being attacked by a witch?

When someone is brave enough to come forward and accuse the witch of practicing witchcraft, we should just assume they are telling the truth and expect the witch to prove that they are not a witch.

I heard it went over really well in Salem. They got justice for all those poor victims by burning tons of witches.
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User avatar #214 to #115 - cuntism (09/02/2015) [-]
HA, nice
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User avatar #22 to #20 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
I almost went ahead and read this. But I read rarely happen and instantly looked at your name to know better.
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#163 to #20 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
At the same time, men who are drunk can not consent, either, under the law. An erection is not consent. Yet, for some reason, both of these factors are dismissed in a court of law, most times. That part is absolute ******** .
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#147 to #20 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
If you get drunk and kill someone, you get held responsible for your actions. If you get drunk and have sex with someone you should get held responsible for your actions.

Male or female, drunk consent IS consent. Whoever decided otherwise must actually have a mental disability.
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#198 to #20 - gabikak (09/02/2015) [-]
Get the **** out please.
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User avatar #210 to #20 - containlettersonly (09/02/2015) [-]
You do understand one of the backbones of western civilization is due process right?
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User avatar #38 to #20 - sergeantsprinkles (09/02/2015) [-]
What if the guy was just as drunk and ****** up as her? Then he couldn't have given consent either.
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User avatar #151 to #38 - mommamadeira (09/02/2015) [-]
Girls are magical creatures that ask for equality but get special treatment if it favors them in certain circumstances.

Mutual rape? No. Guy got raped? No. They don't care about guys who are under the influence because that doesn't appeal to the general public.
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User avatar #161 to #151 - sergeantsprinkles (09/02/2015) [-]
I see! We need to do something about that, right? I think we do.
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#196 to #20 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
Accused not convicted. Big difference in words there buddy. And according to our legal system (United States) you should always be assumed innocent until proven guilty.
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#374 to #20 - frostyaod (09/05/2015) [-]
why would anyone lie about their competitor being a communist?

When someone is brave enough to come forward and accuse the communist of supporting communism, we should just assume they are telling the truth and expect the communist to prove that they are not a communist.
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User avatar #347 to #20 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (09/03/2015) [-]
An accusation of rape can permanently damage the reputation of a person, and in some cases have led to acts of aggression towards and suicide by the real victim.
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User avatar #263 to #20 - funnyrage (09/02/2015) [-]
quit acting like men don't touch alcohol and then have sex. so basically, every drunk sex is a rape with two victims. or if there are more people, even more victims.
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User avatar #252 to #20 - thegrimpoe (09/02/2015) [-]
I was thinking you weren't actually baiting and using the men right, but then I saw your name gg troll gg
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User avatar #172 to #20 - thejusticar (09/02/2015) [-]
ok you are either really really convincing as a ********** or you really are a third wave feminist
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User avatar #118 to #20 - deaminzaints (09/02/2015) [-]
it never said convicted.
assuming that a guy is gonna get convicted solely based on the fact that he is a guy and the woman said so is the exact reason why the 1st world is slowly deteriorating.
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#30 to #20 - partycats (09/02/2015) [-]
Feminazi beta
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User avatar #41 to #30 - alarubra (09/02/2015) [-]
More like lying troll.
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User avatar #312 to #20 - ljxjlos (09/02/2015) [-]
Don´t try it.

The new hatetrain on women and feminism still isn´t dead, so 90% on here will believe that every woman will call them a rapist after Sex. It´ll blow over.
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#388 to #20 - anon (09/11/2015) [-]
well if I was drunk as well we raped each other.
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#282 to #20 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
Whu would any one lie about being a victim of a werewolf attack? Every year thousands of people get attacked by werewolfs.

We should kill all werewolwes they are the real scum of the US OF ************* A
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#167 to #20 - captainganto (09/02/2015) [-]
poe or no?
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User avatar #155 to #20 - fjkabob (09/02/2015) [-]
you're already -400 why continue
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#160 to #155 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
I just want to reach -401 to see what happens, I heard it resets your account level to 0 when other people look at it.

I don't get why people really care that I'm here, anyway, because it's not like I make that many comments... I've only made 366.
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User avatar #162 to #160 - fjkabob (09/02/2015) [-]
lol well good luck
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#137 to #20 - aheael (09/02/2015) [-]
damn
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User avatar #123 to #20 - imposand (09/02/2015) [-]
Cmon dude you're already at -400
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#126 to #123 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
"Let him win he's almost at -400"

I laugh at everyone who said that at some point
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User avatar #25 to #5 - MrDeadiron (09/02/2015) [-]
Yea but that implies a woman would be vaguesly interested in you
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#348 to #5 - xgolgothax (09/03/2015) [-]
Title IX is an anti discrimination statute, he used its authority to file a complaint against the college. It is not what they based their expulsion on.
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#102 to #5 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
Happened to some dude at a frat a few years back at Oregon State. Chick got wasted, Dude got wasted, Chick dragged Dude off, Chick regretted it in the morning. Dude was expelled the same day.
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#140 to #5 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
it really is sad how we even have to do this just because someone changed their mind about having sex.
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User avatar #213 to #5 - mychaelmoar ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
It's absolutely true, though. Title IX is supposed to be about gender equity for all in terms of how students are treated, but because it was contextually used to do things for women, it has always been for women.

You will NEVER receive the same benefits that a woman does (or any other "oppressed group" if you happen to be white, let alone male) in regards to how a university treats them.
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#355 to #5 - fatbasturd (09/03/2015) [-]
Those gaddam feminists! they really are Nazis they want a world feminist order just like the Nazis but with a different name and occupied by a different group all lesbian Females or weak minded females they should outlaw womans studies if this is what happens!
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User avatar #295 to #5 - xxdigitalxx (09/02/2015) [-]
Why are they cutting off that crab's face with scissors?
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#300 to #295 - pinecest (09/02/2015) [-]
To kill the crab so it can be cooked.
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User avatar #344 to #295 - MisfitsFan (09/02/2015) [-]
This kills the crab
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User avatar #150 to #5 - bronybox (09/02/2015) [-]
Except for the fact that Title IX is an anti-sex-discrimination act.
Like, it's MOST OFTEN applied when a Girl wants to play something like Football.

I just read the whole thing, can anyone else find how a court could have justified such a decision?
www.justice.gov/crt/title-ix-education-amendments-1972

It never clearly singles out male students, so by that logic, does it also mean a Male student can submit a Title IX on the basis that they are being discriminated against and falsely accused?

I suppose it then becomes a "Your Word" vs "Hers", and if we know anything about gender discrimination and appeals to the minority, hers will win. Either way, ******** loopholes to perfectly viable laws are ******** .
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User avatar #170 to #150 - quantumranger (09/02/2015) [-]
The article states that John Doe tried to file a claim against the girl after he was suspended, because he also was too intoxicated to consent as defined by the schools guideline. The school did not accept his accusation
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User avatar #369 to #150 - Daeiros (09/03/2015) [-]
Unfortunately, even the intended use is being done wrong.

Hardly any girls want to play sports.
No complaints are made.
College notices there aren't any female athletes.
Launches unprompted investigation.
No discrimination found.
Launches campaign to encourage girls to join sports teams.
Campaign fails hard.
No increase in female registration.
College is still left with gender imbalance in sports.
Title IX says this is not okay.
College does the only thing it can do.
Shuts down as many men's sports teams as necessary to achieve "equality"
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#3 - padamalex (09/02/2015) [-]
READY YOUR BREAKFAST AND EAT HEARTY. FOR TONIGHT, WE DINE IN COURT!
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#135 - augustusxxiv (09/02/2015) [-]
My university, as part of the mandatory sexual assault/safety course, told us that if you (a man,) are drunk and decide to have consensual sex with a mutually drunk woman, then you are a rapist as she couldn't give consent. Doesn't matter if you were both drunk, it was on YOU.

It's completely, and unequivocally, ****** .
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User avatar #183 to #135 - ninjabadger (09/02/2015) [-]
I know right, you would think some of that **** in those "courses" would be common sense... but some of the rape stuff just makes no sense. They made us take it twice in one year.

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#113 - vonspyder (09/02/2015) [-]
just remember guys; she can't change her mind if she's dead.
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#77 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
Remember, just because she consented doesn't mean she consented. Don't be THAT guy.
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#229 to #77 - skebaba ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
Don't le that guy*
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#330 to #229 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
I mean the font is fairly bad, but anyone who can read cursive can tell it's be.
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User avatar #26 - rulebysecrecy ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
You know ***** ****** up when you need to get a lawyer before you have sex
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#377 to #26 - Apes (09/06/2015) [-]
Solution: Only have threesomes and invite your lawyer to partake.
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#136 to #26 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
before you talk to your dean of students or whoever handles the expulsion ****
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#7 - geese (09/02/2015) [-]
being gay is sounding awfully appealing.
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User avatar #275 to #7 - heartlessrobot (09/02/2015) [-]
It is. Too bad I have a girlfriend that isn't insane.
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User avatar #345 to #275 - Mr Unsmiley (09/03/2015) [-]
you lied to me
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User avatar #13 to #7 - threeeighteen (09/02/2015) [-]
Your best mate also being your best **** sounds like a good idea. Not sarcastic, I read over it and it sounded sarcastic to me.
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User avatar #64 to #13 - lolollo (09/02/2015) [-]
It's sad that sounds sarcastic, because that's supposed to be the ideal...
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User avatar #159 to #64 - SirFail (09/02/2015) [-]
It really is. There arent many things I really enjoy about being gay but thats the way i was born so i get on with it, but having your best mate as the person who enjoys getting it on with you is awesome (i was gonna make a best "mate" pun but **** it). We're currently best friends with benefits and thinking about making it more official.
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User avatar #222 to #159 - seferofe (09/02/2015) [-]
You missed the obvious opportunity.
Butt **** it.
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User avatar #291 to #222 - aaronsalsa ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
But how do you **** if you have no ***** to give??

I gave mine up a long time ago, is it too late for me?
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User avatar #152 to #13 - bronybox (09/02/2015) [-]
Well, that's how it should be even with the opposite sex, ideally.
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#218 to #7 - thejudgingmoose (09/02/2015) [-]
It is still a bit difficult when it comes to the rape stuff, but it is much less disgusting.

Become a crossdresser like me. We could always use more traps.
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User avatar #223 to #218 - brolylssj (09/02/2015) [-]
Everytime I see you, I feel the need to pet you between the antlers.
You're a good moose.
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#224 to #223 - thejudgingmoose (09/02/2015) [-]
I feel slightly unsafe.

Still, I thank you for the compliment!
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#227 to #218 - swagmonstah (09/02/2015) [-]
faggot
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User avatar #241 to #228 - assassindash ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
I have the god tier ass of a porn star, and the body of a petite woman who's flat chested....

I could be a porn star if I chose to be, and nobody would know who to be attracted to....
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#244 to #241 - thejudgingmoose (09/02/2015) [-]
I feel as though you over estimate yourself, my friend, but if you have the goods then you should flaunt them.
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#378 to #241 - anon (09/06/2015) [-]
Creds if you get that reference at the very beginning of this post in front of me
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User avatar #383 to #378 - assassindash ONLINE (09/07/2015) [-]
the asdf reference?
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User avatar #320 to #218 - nomil (09/02/2015) [-]
I am in need of visual proof for statement backup.
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#323 to #320 - thejudgingmoose (09/02/2015) [-]
I am afraid that I can not do that, my friend. It is quite difficult to operate cameras with hooves.
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#324 to #323 - nomil (09/02/2015) [-]
You are quite right, I should have thought of that.

Maybe then we should meet, and I could take the picture for you.

Or well, I wouldn't need a picture then anyways.
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#325 to #324 - thejudgingmoose (09/02/2015) [-]
I am flattered, but I am afraid that I have already been taken. Thank you though. ^_^
I am flattered, but I am afraid that I have already been taken. Thank you though. ^_^
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User avatar #326 to #325 - nomil (09/02/2015) [-]
You have been taken? Oh no, where? Shall you need saving?

No, I can't take a hint I couldn't meet you anyways I was just playing. I'm Argentinian
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#327 to #326 - thejudgingmoose (09/02/2015) [-]
Why, I am in a room. I believe things will be okay, however. No need to try and come here. I figured, on both accounts.
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User avatar #23 to #7 - fireheartt (09/02/2015) [-]
just wait till we build an artifical womb, girls will finally be obsolete and the age of waifus shall be ushered in
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User avatar #32 to #7 - thepizzadevourer (09/02/2015) [-]
Y-you could wait for marriage

like me

I swear I'm doing it by choice, guys
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User avatar #35 to #32 - geese (09/02/2015) [-]
then get ****** by divorce/child custody/etc/
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#66 to #35 - rollfourexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
Which is why you do your best to marry as best of a person that you can.
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#71 to #66 - frylad (09/02/2015) [-]
And/or get a prenub
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#109 to #71 - bloodyisrael (09/02/2015) [-]
But then you're faced with the "Oh you don't trust me? I thought you loved me unconditionally!" ********
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#311 to #109 - frylad (09/02/2015) [-]
If she refuse to get one then it's almost garenteed that she is just in it to extort you.
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User avatar #69 to #66 - lokischosen (09/02/2015) [-]
Quickly you forgot your shtick
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#75 to #69 - rollfourexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
*roll 4*                   That is a joke, btw. It's the old way to roll four numbers.

I've been rolling on and off for quite a while but only today have people called me out for not rolling. You're the third person to tell me that in the last 24 hours.
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User avatar #78 to #75 - lokischosen (09/02/2015) [-]
I haven't been paying attention to comments for awhile.



I commented before reading the spoiler ignore that >.>
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#79 to #78 - rollfourexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
Don't worry about it, it's just an interesting coincidence. I'm going to log off now. Goodnight.
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User avatar #111 - mcmonsterkitty (09/02/2015) [-]
It doesn't even matter if you're proven innocent after a false claim. It still ruins your future. Every employer will see you were acused and that's enough for them To tell you to **** off.
Not to mention there will always be a hint of doubt from everyone that knows about it, so nobody will treat you the same. And depending where it happens you may still be put on the sexual predator list just to be sure.
You don't just get out of false accusations clean. It follows you forever and aters your future you "fought" for accordingly.
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User avatar #306 - dsendz ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
If you think colleges are bad look at the department of children and families. My sister She is severely mentally ill and in treatment accused my father of molesting her. Despite massive evidence to the contrary they decided to pursue the case. My father has since lost his job, his guns, his home, his marriage and his family. I have also received a class 39 injunction Florida and a restraining order. If I ever contact my brother my sister or my mother I will be arrested. All of this is a result of a stupid feminist teacher my sister had. We had informed her that my sister was ill and that if she threatened to do anything she needed to tell us That teacher recorded that my sister was harming herself physically and was threatening suicide. The teacher did not report that she was harming herself for 6 months. My family had no idea. Eventually DCF found out somehow. The teacher to keep **** off of herself threw it onto my father. My father immediately had an emergency injunction Essentially a restraining order placed on him. My father is a federal employee in the bureau of prisons. If you are accused of a crime while you work at the BOP you will be fired immediately. Eventually my father moved in with me. My brother and sisters "guardian ad litem" came to visit me and my father. I insinuated at this meeting that my sister was lying or was looking for attention. The guardian took this personally and decided to have an injunction placed against me. That's the story so far. Me and my father are guilty until proven innocent. The courts ordered us to attend family counseling and to follow the orders of the counselor. The counselor told us IN court to have family outings. At a later court date my sister told the judge that she felt uncomfortable at these outings. My God did that bitch come down on us. I mean how dare we do what the court told us to do. I mean Jesus H. Christ what the **** was I supposed to do tell them no then get sent to jail for breaking a court order? This is the **** I'vebeen putting up with for two ******* years. Funnyjunk and video games have been my only refuge from the hell hole my life has become.

P.S. We've spent ~$250,000 dollars in court fees. All I know is that bitch of a teacher is going to be paying for my house and college when I'm done suing her ass.
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User avatar #408 to #306 - dsendz ONLINE (11/30/2015) [-]
>>#404, >>#403, >>#354, >>#394, >>#398, >>#399,

Well guys they finally dismissed the case. My sister is going to a home and I have my life back thanks for helping me through this guys.
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User avatar #410 to #408 - threeeighteen (12/01/2015) [-]
Good to see man. Hope the best for your family and that things can repair.
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User avatar #409 to #408 - wraithguard (12/01/2015) [-]
Awesome
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User avatar #399 to #306 - defeats (09/25/2015) [-]
Holy **** bro, I hope you win... I was wondering what the injunction means for you, can you be charged with anything because of it? And does it effect your employability?
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User avatar #400 to #399 - dsendz ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
An injunction is basically just a restraining order. unfortunately it also keeps me from working in schools or other places with children. Also Iai can never adopt children,which is an issue because I shoot blanks.
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User avatar #401 to #400 - defeats (09/25/2015) [-]
Damn that's ****** up, will it be removed if your father is found innocent?
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User avatar #402 to #401 - dsendz ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, but a section 39 conviction will prevent me from adopting unless I get a court order permitting it.
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#380 to #306 - anon (09/06/2015) [-]
Sorry this is happening to you and your family. The problem is that most people don't care about how unfairly things are stacked against men in the courts until something like this happens to someone they care about.
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#394 to #306 - threeeighteen (09/25/2015) [-]
This is to your mum, sister and the system.
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User avatar #395 to #394 - dsendz ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
DCF finally said monday at a meeting that they wanted to dismiss the case. Unfortunately, now they have to convivce the four other organisations they dragged into this.
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User avatar #403 to #395 - wraithguard (09/26/2015) [-]
It's good to hear that things are finally turning your way.
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#354 to #306 - frylad (09/03/2015) [-]
dear god your sister needs to be put in a mental hopital
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User avatar #357 to #354 - dsendz ONLINE (09/03/2015) [-]
We tried that. They tried to have my parents arrested on abandonment charges.
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User avatar #396 to #357 - threeeighteen (09/25/2015) [-]
Abandonment charges for sending her to a place to get better? **** me, that's beyond retarded. Good work for not ignoring her mental health at least.
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User avatar #397 to #396 - dsendz ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, At first I felt bad for her. I've had severe mental issues in the past and I thought I knew where she was coming from.
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#359 to #357 - frylad (09/03/2015) [-]
Want me to kill her?
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User avatar #360 to #359 - dsendz ONLINE (09/03/2015) [-]
Sounds good to me.
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#368 to #360 - frylad (09/03/2015) [-]
Alright time to buy a plane ticket, I've got 10 grand in cash, that should be enough to get everything before igo pew pew
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User avatar #404 to #360 - otisriedel (09/26/2015) [-]
you better ****** hope they never find this post chain dude. also how is it going now?
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User avatar #405 to #404 - dsendz ONLINE (09/26/2015) [-]
It's pretty good. I'm doing all right. If worse comes to worse I'll delete my FJ account and all the evidence with it.
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User avatar #361 to #359 - dsendz ONLINE (09/03/2015) [-]
At this point I've seriously considered it. I mean shoot my dad then kill them and then myself. I couldn't do it but I've seriously considered it. I legitimately understand why people go postal. Just to make myself clear I cold never and would never do this.
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#398 to #306 - insertfjusername (09/25/2015) [-]
This is making me pissed beyond reality
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#57 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
I'm not worried, I will probably die alone so this is irrelevant to me.
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User avatar #6 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
what is the law if you both are drunk?
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#165 to #6 - morebuckets (09/02/2015) [-]
The double standard here isn't nearly as bad as it looks. They were both drunk. Jane pressed charges, and when he was losing ground in the case, he also pressed charges. They were going to go through with it (at oxy, in their retarded "courts") but john doe requested his lawyer be present with him at all times. This is against oxy's rules so they dismissed it.

It's not as bad as it looks as far as double standards are concerned. It's just a horrible horrible display of injustice
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User avatar #60 to #6 - yudodat ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
If you both were drunk, and you weren't with each other when you sobered up, plead to the court that you couldn't have had sex with her as your path to wizardom restricts it.

Then when they try to say that you did, break down and cry that it couldn't be true! You were almost a wizard!

Cry until they give up.
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#139 to #6 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
There are people that have evaded life sentences for murder because their lawyers argued they were completely high off their ass or drunk and they normally wouldn't act like that, yet in this case no matter how drunk the male is he can still make the right decision apparentely
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User avatar #339 to #139 - hierophant (09/02/2015) [-]
>normally wouldn't murder
>still murdered someone
>Doesn't go to prison for murdering someone??
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#8 to #6 - saxmo (09/02/2015) [-]
You raped her. no matter what. rape. literally worse then hitler who did nothing wrong
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User avatar #9 to #8 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
Is this what you feel it would be or actually true?
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#10 to #9 - saxmo (09/02/2015) [-]
Its going to assume simply because you have a penis, that you were either A:less drunk or B: able to make decisions better than she.

You cant really prove your innocense because rape is an evidence-less crime more or less. So its your word VS hers and women are obviously the more trustworthy gender

Remember you have all the responsibilities of being a man but none of the benefits we once had.
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User avatar #11 to #10 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
Right, this is sounding more and more like "I don't like the preferential treatment I perceive woman to have" than actual knowledge based off of the current law. Thankyou for your input, since I did ask but I will find my answer elsewhere. lawexplain ?
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#18 to #11 - xtnega (09/02/2015) [-]
As biased as he sounds, it is fairly accurate. I'm sure you've seen this image but I feel it quite accurately sums up the current status quo regarding the situation.

If no evidence is presented by either side, however, (at least in my country, New Zealand) the case would probably not go ahead. It is quite easy to find rape cases in America where accusations without evidence have landed men in prison (or close to it) though. An example of this might be the Hofstra false rape case:
nypost.com/2009/09/18/twisted-motive-behind-rape-story/

I would recommend searching for some other sources as I have only done some cursory skimming of information on the case; taking a source as fact without crosschecking is just as bad as not doing any research to begin with.
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#182 to #18 - kristovsky (09/02/2015) [-]
Woman was drunk: "She couldn't give consent!"

Man was drunk: ...............................

Welcome to Orwell's nightmare
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User avatar #21 to #18 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
I just mentioned New Zealand in my comment. Only country in the world with alcohol specifically mentioned in their rape laws.
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User avatar #48 to #21 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
I don't believe that's true. Scotland has a similar law ( www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2009/9/part/2/crossheading/consent ).
And many other countries (and every state in the US) has laws about "intoxicating substances," or some other such verbiage, which is sometimes defined in the code as "alcoholic beverages," etc. For example, Wisconsin. ( docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/940/II/225, see Section 940.225 (5)(ai) ).
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User avatar #52 to #48 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
I know they have similar things, like intoxicating substance, but that just refers to any drug, it's just normally alcohol that is involved. New Zealand is the only one that says specifically alcohol from what I found, but I didn't come across the Scotland one.

I went off of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_rape though so I can't actually guarantee it I suppose.
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User avatar #54 to #52 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
Yeah, I'm just nit-picking at this point. ;-)
The Scotland one was updated in 2009. Wisconsin in 2006. Actually, if you search the article that you linked for "alcohol," you'll find the word appears three times, two of which are under the Scotland entry.

While I still think you're technically incorrect, I get what you're saying and believe it to be a valid point: most legal definitions of rape do not specifically name alcohol as an intoxicant, or they poorly define exactly how intoxicated a person must be in order to be unable to provide consent.
I think many definitions of rape unfairly place the blame entirely on the man by defining rape as "a person penetrates another person with his penis," or something similar. In that instance, woman cannot rape a person because they don't have a penis. Thus, if both of them are drunk to the point that neither could really give consent, the man is automatically guilty because he's the only one capable of committing the crime. Of course, that brings us to the topic of criminal elements-- which are defined differently in different countries-- but which generally include the idea of mens rea, or the state of mind necessary to commit a crime. If you're so drunk that you can't form the necessary mindset to commit the crime, how can you be guilty?
In my state, California, there are some additional protections built into the law. The first is 26 PC, which enumerates several circumstances that make you ineligible to commit a crime. For example, if you commit what would ordinarily be a criminal act through mistake of fact, while unconscious of the act, or under duress, you can't be found guilty. Another interesting thing is the way we define rape in California, it's specifically the penetration of a vagina with a penis. The thing is that it doesn't say who has to be causing the penetration, so a woman can actually rape a man by causing the man to penetrate her against his will.

At any rate, this is an entertaining written intercourse we're having here. Thanks for consenting to participate!
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User avatar #56 to #54 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
I did notice the alcohol part being there three times, but left out the ones under Scotland simply because they didn't cite an actual law, just that it has come up essentially. However, I also didn't read the whole thing because I just kinda assumed that since the first instance of it didn't say it, the second didn't either...I now see "This was clarified under the new laws of 2009 which state that sexual intercourse is non-consensual, and therefore considered rape, if it occurs ...) where the conduct occurs at a time when B is incapable because of the effect of alcohol or any other substance of consenting to it."
That being said, I was only going for full country laws. I know state laws vary, and some may say it but I didn't look that deep into it just because I was making a general point.
You are right though, they are all poorly written, from what I've seen, where they don't define a level of intoxication. That leaves it too open to interpretation that any intoxication can be considered unable to provide consent. Definitions of rape are even worse, because they are geared toward blaming the man within the definition itself. The laws are, unfortunately, catered toward women simply because through history, the majority of rapes would have been of females. The laws a lot of time seem to be vaguely written and left to the interpretation of the court, which was my original point. A lot of cases are thrown out or overturned because of this, but it's also because of this that a lot of false cases make it through and people end up wrongly convicted.

I don't consent. This is rape. RAPE!
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User avatar #59 to #56 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
Yeah, I think we're in agreement here.
Generally, I think the vagaries of the law are a good thing because they usually allow the judges and juries to interpret the law based on the specific facts and circumstances in each individual case. Of course, there are some that will take things completely literally and screw over a person just because they can. Then they set a precedent and a whole generation gets ****** over until people get tired of it and change the laws. I would really like all statutes to have an expiration date built into them. That way if we decided a law wasn't working (cough cough drug prohibition cough), we would simply have to let the law expire, or write a better one. The problem with that is that we need a public who is, you know, educated and involved in the political process. Ha ha ha!

Hey, you know this isn't rape because there's no penetration with a penis, even if you don't consent to it. =D
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User avatar #74 to #59 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
We really could use something like that. You're right, that in many cases it's important to have the openness to interpretation. Without it, the judicial system would be useless, and things like a trial by peers would be non-existent. Unfortunately, those things can be abused, and when they are it can really screw people over for a long time. It would be nice to see something that would make a law expire. If the law works, then the people can renew it, if not, change it. That, and being able to ignore past cases for precedent. Sure, there are important times that this is used, like citing Brown v. Board of Ed for a discrimination case. But using it for something like drug laws, or sexual assault, really changes things drastically, and halts the judicial process to an extent. Being able to use a past case for something like rape could put the wrong person behind bars, or allow someone to be put in jail with a false accusation. Unfortunately though, picking and choosing which laws and cases can cite precedent is a dangerous game, that could lead to a lot of corruption and misuse of power. More unfortunately, the general populous isn't educated enough to do anything about any of these things. Many of them don't care enough, let alone want to become educated. They trust that everything is okay, and that the justice system is always doing it's job correctly every time, or with very little incidence.
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User avatar #36 to #11 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
In the US, you are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. If the only evidence is her word, it's very, very unlikely that you'll see a conviction. But that does not matter for three reasons:
1) Legal fees, bail, time in court and time potentially spent in jail waiting for court can take such a cost in time, money and energy as to be ruinous to a person, especially a young, inexperienced man who has not had a chance to establish a himself.
2) The accusation of rape, even if shown to be completely false, can destroy a person's reputation and make it difficult or impossible for them to get certain jobs or to be accepted in many social circles, thus limiting many of their opportunities.
3) Colleges are not held to the same standards as courts. They can conduct their own "investigations," kick a person out of college and essentially blacklist them from many other colleges, all for reasons that they do it have to disclose. Sure, that process can be fought in court, but it takes time, money and legal resources not avaliable to most college students.
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User avatar #39 to #36 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
Man it really sucks to be a guy sometimes. Welp I guess just get proof of consent before doing anything I suppose.
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User avatar #42 to #39 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
Yeah, sometimes. It is what it is, though.
Girls have always had to worry about getting raped or abused by guys and that's just not something that guys have really ever had to worry about. That's not to say that men are evil or something, just that statistically men pose a greater danger to women than many other things. Women have traditionally been warned to be wary of men, to play hard to get, save themselves for marriage (or at least for somebody they really like), etc. because they are less likely to be taken advantage of or injured by a guy who is willing to get to know them before ******* them while both are in a drunken stupor.
I'm not putting a judgement on it one way or another, but now, men also have to be a little wary of women. It behooves both parties to get to know each other through a more traditional courtship-- dating, etc.-- before just jumping into the sack with each other. He might be a psychotic, abusive rapist who will use physical violence to get what he wants. Similarly, she might be a crazy, vindictive bitch who destroys a man's reputation and sets his career back a decade just because she thought he was a bad lay.
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User avatar #43 to #42 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
Yeah, I can agree to that. Just out of curiosity do you do the whole explain thing as a hobby or do you also have real po-po experience, Just curios cause its neat to have info on the law like you do.
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User avatar #46 to #43 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
As a hoby? Implying that anybody on this site does it as a job? LOL

Yeah, I'm a real cop. I work in a busy city in California. I like having the opportunity to interact with this generation of people in this (mostly anonymous) format. Most departments have to maintain a very professional front and be politically correct, to the point that their message is lost on lots of people; it makes us cops look like assholes that you just can't relate to. I'm hoping that at least some people on this site can relate to me and realize that, actually, most cops are pretty cool guys and gals doing a tough job that most people just don't understand. Mainly, though, I'm doing it for my own reasons. I've seen so much racist, anti-police **** in the media recently... it's really nice to interact with people who actually care about the_ reasons_ behind police actions, rather than just chanting a slogan.
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User avatar #47 to #46 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
I should clarify the hobby thing a lot of users just will answer a question with no prior knowledge on it at all so when I was asking if it was a hobby I meant do you just know/answer about the feild because you like to read up on it as a hobby or do you have actual experience with it. I just didn't want to elaborate but yeah that would be funny if people took it way too seriously like a job.

On another note, It's pretty cool that you're a cop, I've met some nice cops and some bad cops so I like to give them the benefit of the doubt before jumping gun. Have you ever considered posting some funny/weird cop stories I would and I'm sure others would be definitely interested.
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User avatar #49 to #47 - policexplain (09/02/2015) [-]
Haha! Okay, I get what you were saying, now.

I have posted some. I try to keep things fairly light, though. Image macros with maybe a short description. It's FunnyJunk, after all and a lot of what I have to do isn't funny by any stretch of the imagination. Sometimes there's humor in the unexpected things or the sarcastic things my coworkers and say back at the station or in the car-- things you couldn't really say in public without getting a complaint.
But I don't post too often because, frankly, it can be pretty exhausting. I try to reply to everybody who has a valid point or concern because, like I said, my purpose here is to explain.
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User avatar #51 to #49 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
right on, I'll check some of your posts out.
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User avatar #14 to #11 - geese (09/02/2015) [-]
implying these college "courts" follow the law
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User avatar #15 to #14 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
Actually yes they have to they even have a appeal process. At least mine does.
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User avatar #16 to #15 - geese (09/02/2015) [-]
it varies, Ive heard of one that got sued because they kicked the guy out when a girl cried rape several months later because he cheated on her.

www.thecollegefix.com/post/23709/
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User avatar #17 to #16 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
Okay, I'll probably read more into it later.
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User avatar #349 to #11 - slycoop (09/03/2015) [-]
Why the **** is this comment thumbed down by so many people? He was calling that other person out on their ******** of just spouting /pol/ cirlejerk nonsense.

Regardless of whether what that guy said is becoming true (or is already true), it was only conjecture, likely based on stories that guy read online designed to make you enraged. All of us have read **** like that and gotten angry at it, but this guy is getting thumbed down for actually asking a legitimate legal question through the rage that is usually the norm.

Don't worry m8, I got your back.
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User avatar #362 to #349 - supername (09/03/2015) [-]
Thanks, I just chalked it up to fj being fj but you are cool guy.
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User avatar #363 to #362 - slycoop (09/03/2015) [-]
This site is getting pretty extreme with their "conservative" opinions, for lack of a better word. It's pretty scary. I myself have gotten more conservative and cynical because of all the SJW **** and situations like the content unfortunately becoming more commonplace in our world, but becoming exactly the kind of hateful person that proves SJWs right in many ways is not the answer.
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User avatar #364 to #363 - supername (09/03/2015) [-]
yeah, I actually noticed my self thinking things that I normally do not cause I frequent the fj a bit too much so I've been making a conscious effort to be more skeptical of things before forming or saying my opinion. Specifically when it comes to fj.
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User avatar #365 to #364 - slycoop (09/03/2015) [-]
That's a very good habit to have for anywhere on the Internet. I migrated from FJ to 4chan for a long time, and 4chan made me genuinely more spiteful of people like SJWs and whatnot, because they constantly talk about enraging injustices like what happened in the content. I don't go either 4chan or FJ as much anymore, it's not good for you. Your world view gets very easily warped.

Although becoming informed of these things is good, and blissful ignorance is a terrible position to take, it's important to take a step back from the online communities you browse and realize that the world actually isn't as injust as a series of cherrypicked extreme examples all collected into one place for your raging "pleasure" would have you believe.

Sorry for rambling so much, it's just nice to talk about these things with somebody.
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User avatar #366 to #365 - supername (09/03/2015) [-]
Rant away, I agree with you completely. I feel the same way when fj talks about politics and economics citing only extreme examples and never portraying the other side. But anyways man I'm going to call it night so lets chat again another day. See you around.
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User avatar #367 to #366 - slycoop (09/03/2015) [-]
Alright, have a good night.
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User avatar #19 to #11 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
New Zealand is the only country that specifically mentions alcohol in their rape laws, actually.
"A person does not consent to sexual activity if the activity occurs while he or she is so affected by alcohol or some other drug that he or she cannot consent or refuse to consent to the activity."

This is generally interpreted as being that the person needs to be to the point that they actually could not provide consent or refusal of consent, however, many groups will claim this to be that any case involving alcohol or drugs is rape, because they are not in their right minds at that time, due to intoxication.

In general, it would come down to a court decision on a case by case basis, based on how drunk the person was. This applies to all countries, not just New Zealand.

Now, onto your question, if both are drunk, it doesn't change much. It stays the woman's word against the man's. In general, people are more sympathetic toward women, so it usually comes on the man to prove his innocence instead of her proving his guilt. Rape can be impossible to prove, as the statute of limitations on reporting it is longer than any dna evidence can exist. This doesn't just make it harder to prove rape, but harder for the man to prove he didn't, as the prosecution can argue that he did it but because it's been so long the dna is gone. It still, would come down to a court decision about it in your average case though, with no complications. Unfortunately, in rape cases, it really can come down to who can talk themselves up more and sweet talk the judge into believing their story. Women are good at getting people to side with them, especially when it involves tears and sadness, so they win a lot of the time. That's why so many cases where it's coming out years later that the woman lied are happening.
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User avatar #34 to #11 - supername (09/02/2015) [-]
to iflirtwithanyone and xtnega , that answers my question much better. On anopinion basis however I think it's completely unfair
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User avatar #40 to #34 - iflirtwithanyone (09/02/2015) [-]
It is unfair, but is unfortunately how it goes
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#1 - mintyfreshmenthol (09/02/2015) [-]
knowledge is your greatest weapon

be prepared for the worst and hope for the best
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#340 - mattdoggy (09/02/2015) [-]
>bump into QT3.14 on campus and she drops her books
>i recognize her from class and we begin to pick her stuff up and smile at each other
>we exchange some small talk and i nut up and ask her if i can buy her a late lunch
>she agrees and we have a good time on our little date
>she says she's planning on cooking some later and invites me over to eat and watch a movie on netflix
>i go and we have a great meal she made and share a lot of laughs at dinner
>we go straight to her couch and before we're 10 minutes into the movie we start making out
>she starts to go a little further and i stop her
>"hang on babe, i just got to get something before we go any further"
>i reach into my back pocket and pull out my wallet
>i fumble to grab the edge of it and pull it out
>finally i get my lawyers card out
>i call him and let him know where i am and what my intentions are
>he brings over 168 pages of boilerplate that basically says we are engaging in consensual sex
>we both spend the next hour initialing and giving our signatures and a video of our express consent
>blood samples are taken and finger prints are given
>i have to write a 12 page paper on my intentions and consent
>when it is all done a notary comes in and notarizes everything for us
>after that they leave and me and the girl enjoy each other for the rest of the night
>several weeks later i am reading when i get a call
>it was my lawyer, letting me know the notary had their licence expired
>before i can speak i see a can drop in front of me and it was too late
>when i came to the swat team had me in cuffs and the choppers overhead had their miniguns spinning and ready to fire
>i was escorted between the tanks to Obama's waiting limo where he personally kicked me in the balls
>i was then shipped via USPS to Guantanamo Bay where i'm awaiting execution via crushing
>mfw i'm using my last internet privileges to post this
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User avatar #93 - platinumaltaria ONLINE (09/02/2015) [-]
Guilty until innocent.

Meanwhile, western civilisation was getting ****** in a dark alley.
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#62 - lolollo (09/02/2015) [-]
As vindicated as I feel over the fact that my prudish behavior, which was given a lot of **** until I was able to move away from high school, is proving to be wildly adaptive over the "suggested, popular behavior", the fact that as a species we've begun to tear at each other over something we're supposed to see eye to eye on for the sake of our survival is causing me to fear for our continued existence.

More than the typical "a kid said/did something silly and now I'm annoyed!" reason you'd find someone weeping for this sort of thing.
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User avatar #107 to #62 - testaburger (09/02/2015) [-]
Please don't project american tendencies unto the entire world.
We're not all retarded.
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User avatar #149 to #62 - infinitereaper (09/02/2015) [-]
Did you know that the human brain on average has been shrinking for like hundreds of years and **** ? We will soon go back to erectus brains. And before you say anything it's been shrinking faster than we've been getting shorter. Remember Idiocracy?
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#317 to #149 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
The average height is going up, and has been going up pretty much constantly. What you're saying sounds like a load of ass.
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User avatar #381 to #317 - infinitereaper (09/06/2015) [-]
retards couldn't even look it up
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User avatar #220 to #62 - midothegreat (09/02/2015) [-]
i read that in his voice
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User avatar #185 - syntheticdoll (09/02/2015) [-]
So if a drunk chick drives a car and she crashes, is it the car's or the other driver's fault?
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User avatar #203 to #185 - whatupbiatch (09/02/2015) [-]
no but if you are walking home drunk and a car hits you it is the other persons fault, not your fault for being drunk.
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#302 to #203 - anon (09/02/2015) [-]
That has ******* nothing to do with the point he's making. Are you retarded?
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User avatar #309 to #302 - whatupbiatch (09/02/2015) [-]
for a lot of people when they are drunk sex is something that happens to them, they are not in control of it.
I was using an analogy to show that.
Being run over is something that happens to you without much of your control.
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#217 - dachief (09/02/2015) [-]
These ******* women are such indian givers. Say yes and then pull the rug out from under you b/c they feel the shame of their sluttiness.

Females out there, you need to start owning your decisions; the more men whose lives/reputations are ruined by this **** , the fewer guys there will be who will even bother to try and initiate a relationship. You're ruining the sex scene for yourselves, while dudes can still have a grand old time without you. And the feminists wonder why no-one wants to date them.
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