Obligatory dog post. This is my pup Boomer. He's the Sorority Relations Chair for my fraternity, Sigma Pi. I don't know if I'd still be around today if I never got him, he pulled me out of a deep depression. Everyone post pictures of your loyal hounds!
This is Ash, she was the reason to get out of bed and face the day also the most fun, clever as **** , loyal and crazy dog I've had. I miss her and I won't love anyone else as much as I've loved here.
My pooch, Mini. She's a Corgi/Border Collie mix and she has the personality of a stubborn 7 year old. She looooves to talk and whine at everything and is a total pain in the ass. But, as I type this, she is curled up next to me against my leg and is fast asleep. I love her to death, for sure, despite the fact she's a bed hog. I literally have like a foot and a half of space to lie down in right now because of her dopey ass.
Hahaha haha omfg who loves a ****** dog and names him ruben?!?!? Like a corned beef ****** sandwich!?!?!? A hahaha hahaha the ruest of Bens hahaha hahaha ****** ruben.
The rescue dog i worked with in a kennels, she has been there for like 2 years, no one wants to adopt her because she's old, i'd adopt her in a heartbeat if i had my own place
**postwhatevs used "*roll picture*"** **postwhatevs rolled image** Some people just dont know how to raise dogs, then you get **** like this. Hahah can't wait till they get children hahahahah.
I read something about this do, and how it was actually an incredibly well trained dog. Don't remember the specifics but, it was something about it being able to follow two commands at once, which is what is happening in the picture. So you're wrong. They do know how to raise dogs.
There is no problem that cannot be solved with mass amounts of corgis. I am convinced that corgis are the answer to all of life's woes. World peace? Corgis. National debt? ******* . CORGIS.
O-okay? We could train them as hunting dogs, I guess. They could roll over their prey in a massive ball of adorable fluff. That's what you meant, right? haha
So you have standards for the much more complex lifeforms but not for the ones that have clear differences and objective qualities?
I don't even know what to say.
yeah why have standards for such a simple creature, are you even asking me?. Having no standards for complex lifeforms means I love cats and hate them, dogs don't have agendas or opinions that don't apply to your own, they love unconditionally or at least I think so.
Protection training should never in any circumstance be undertaken unless the dog has a flawless obediance to start with. Because if you don't, you have a dangerous dog capable of dangerous things out of controll.
With household and personal protection the Dog should never EVER make the decission to attack without your command. This is how the millitary do it. this is how the police Should do it more.
Source- A Qualified dog trainer with the NDTF and Decoy trained
If I had to guess I'd say the person in blue is female and is likely the dog's owner, while the person in red is probably her boyfriend. Which means the dog sees itself as the alpha, and the guy is coming into his territory and getting all up on what he views as his property (the woman).
It's probably less of a failure to raise the dog and more that the dog just doesn't know the dude in red yet.
Women can't raise dogs for **** . Not all of them, chill. They treat them like fun pets and lack the leadership and character to be tough when they should be to actually make them trained and obedient dogs.
It's women who give sneak snacks, it's women who make up for their unfulfilled mother instincts with animals all the time, get overprotective and unreasonable. Who spoil their dogs and bitch at everyone who even dare criticise their pets - which is most likely the reason why the corgi growled at the guy - The dog knows the woman will stand with him, not with the guy, so he gets bossy. He knows he's allowed to.
It's pathetic to see that even in places where I'm a bloody guest, dogs listen to me better than to their actual owners, because I, for one, don't act like a little bitch towards them, and they just know. Dogs always know. If they act like in that gif, it's because they don't have any respect.
you need to train your dog so that it doesnt see itself to be the packmaster AND that the dog doesnt get aggressive towards strangers. this is a shoddily raised dog.
Where is the source? I'm on my phone, so I'm wondering if that's why I can't find it. I'd like to read up on whoever trained that dog.
If it's supposed to be trained to protect, they failed miserably. Most decent training programs train the dog to put their body between the victim and the aggressor first. If the aggressor doesn't back off, the dog just straight up attacks, usually when the victim says a command or makes a gesture. For the most part, aggression isn't shown until the command is given, it's more like a game for the dog. Depending on the breed, they'll even look excited and happy right before attacking, not wide eyed and snarling, unless that behavior was intended.
So I'm interested in the technique and why their style is different. I'm no expert; just a girl who has some professional training under her belt. Not much, but enough to wonder.
If anyone is curious, look up German Shepherd protection training videos. They are intense, but you don't see any flash of teeth. Properly trained dogs treat the experience as a game or a hunting experience, not a show of power. That's why they'll release and attack on command, because it's a game. Now, Rotties meant to protect the trash yard are different. Since the corgi is obviously in a household, you want him or her to be properly trained, not stupidly trained.
Anyway, you probably won't see this as an anon, but if anyone else knows, please let me know. I'd like to see.
>Immediately inferring the worst possible scenario from a 10 second cute gif
that aside its more likely that the dog doesn't know the owner of the hand, and the dog is getting pissy when he touches someone the dog knows which could be to his left
Quite the opposite for this dog. The owner made a sound to get the dog to play angry, but in this video you can see it's well trained. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz88IKZeLIw
My dog used to play like this. I kid you not. She'd growl and snarl extremely loud and you'd just keep putting your hand near her face or even in her mouth but when you stopped she instantly started wagging her tail and licking you. We had her for 16 years and she never bit a person in her whole life. Damn I miss that bitch
**eatwaffles used "*roll picture*"** **eatwaffles rolled image**If the dog was adopted like that or trained like that is not the problem. The problem is that these people think the behavior is 'cute' and are reinforcing that behavior. It will not, as the commenter above puts it, be so cute when a young child tries to go to their mother and gets bitten.
Small dog or not, the canine teeth are still about an inch long. Little dogs are incredibly fast. By the time you've punted, kicked, punched, or done whatever it is you said you'd do in that situation, the damage is done.
This isn't funny, at all, to me. This is a dog that needs some serious retraining to be a family dog. If they are training strictly for protection, then that dog should know to protect all members of his or her family from threats. Having a hand placed on a person as shown in the video is not a threat, and shouldn't be treated as such. Can you imagine getting into an argument around this dog? If it's a service dog protecting a fallen victim, then he or she needs to be trained to relent to people in uniform so they can treat the victim. Again, the level of threat needs to be understood by the dog, not just attacking whoever comes near.
If it's for none of those reasons, then you are dealing with an aggressive dog that needs strong boundaries. That behavior needs to be extinguished, or you risk the wellbeing of others as well as the dogs wellbeing.
You're exactly right.
This is clearly something that was viewed as cute when he started doing it and it's being treated as a game. There's no move to correct the behavior, instead it's "Lol let's tape it, how funny". But it's only amusing until someone gets bit.
I have corgis (cardigans, not pembrokes like in the gif though) and I would never allow my dogs to present this kind of behavior. The dog should not view itself as the alpha, the dog should be taking cues from the person who owns it to decide what is appropriate behavior.
If someone is entering my house, I don't discourage them from alert barking initially because I don't mind the protective nature they can have to deter burglars. But once I tell them to calm down and cease the behavior they will gladly interact with the person once they've been established as a guest rather than an intruder. There should be no showing of teeth unless the other person behaves in a threatening way to warrant it.
What the dog is doing isn't protection, it's aggressive possessiveness and sooner or later it's not going to be someone who knows to watch out for the warnings. A stranger, a child, someone is going to get hurt.
I absolutely agree. Corgis, especially, should be taught to curb the behavior since they are herding dogs and nipping already comes naturally. They want to know where they stand in the pack, and this one knows the pack only consists of him and his one human. Everyone else are considered threats. That's a horrible way for a dog to live, considering they are social animals.
My opinion, the dog isn't confident enough either in his humans to protect him and themselves or in his own position within that family. Proper socialization, a steady routine, and a strong, rock steady leader is what this dog needs now. He's, or she's, not a parlor trick; he feels and understands what's going on around him to an extent. Constantly reinforcing either the fear or aggression reaction isn't good for him. It'should not solidifying his position, it's either undermining it or making him fear for it. An overly anxious dog is a biting dog, and aggression stems from that anxiety when it becomes too much.
This really makes me upset because it happened to my dog Jax. He's been Craigslist hopping most of his two years of life, because they thought his anxiety was cute. He 'smiled' and 'protected' the young children of the household....all up until someone raised their voice at him and he bit them. He finally landed at my house as an anxious bundle of fear; it's taken tons of patience, a lot of understanding, and mutual respect to get him even remotely family friendly. He will still bare his teeth if you reprimand him for chewing something (he's 85lbs and chews things when left alone), but he calms when he realizes I'm not going to kill him for it. He used to pee himself, cower, snarl, and snap....now he just lays down and bares his teeth until you look away from him. I'm hoping more time and patience will help that too.
I'm glad someone else feels the same way. I don't mean to come off sounding preachy, but these dogs don't ask to live with us. The least we can do is make an effort to understand their behavior, and understand that they aren't human. They need a job, a solid position in the family, and they absolutely must feel safe and secure in both of those places. These videos frustrate me.
In the source video the dog is responding to a verbal command from the guy with the camra. He trained the dog to growl/threaten but NOT bite people who appear to be threatening his wife when the dog hears the command.
If a dog behaves like this towards you, you're not. At least not as far as the dog is concerned. In dog's eyes you haven't asserted your dominance over the "pack", and it doesn't respect your authority and right to do as you please.
Wolves don't even ******* have an absolute alpha leader mentality.
The alpha in the pack isn't the biggest and strongest one. The alpha's in a wolf pack are the genetic parents of at least some of the wolves in the pack. Wolf packs consist of the parents and their kids (and then some randoms)
Disciplining your dog through "alpha mentality" (physical punishing/intimidation) is quite stupid. If your dog behaves well thanks to you punishing it physically, it's probably not because you're such an alpha in its eyes, it's probably because the dog is ******* scared ******** of you.
Obviously dominance is important as a dog owner, but you don't need violence or threatening to achieve that. Positive reinforcement is great.
I've found that, if you really watch 'alphas', they aren't even intimidating or demanding. They're kind of.....disinterested. if they don't want to be bothered, they walk away. It's the 'subs' that stay put and follow the 'alpha' around, trying to initiate contact, receive food (because they are the parents), or play...or even just receive affection.
Now, if you challenge the 'alpha', then be prepared for some aggression, but otherwise everyone is pretty secure and knows their place. A dog, or dogs, in the household know the humans aren't fellow dogs, but will exhibit the same behaviors, especially if you had them since puppyhood. At that point, you ARE their parent, and when their needs arent understood or met, or both, you get a nervous wreck of a dog.
Like right now, my dog Jax is trying to get my attention because it's almost dinner time. He's licking my arm because I won't let him lick my face. I know he's hungry, but I'm ignoring him because dinner is at seven, not when he wants it. I don't even look at him when he does this. He will eat when I say so, and it will be after I pretend to 'eat' from his bowl.
Am I a dog? No. Is this a wolf pack? No. But we have to mimic some behaviors to make certain dogs (my Jax is an anxious mess and is still settling into his place in my home) feel safe and comfortable. The 'alpha' is not the most intimidating, it's the one who makes the pack feel safe, comfortable, and full. When any of those stop or disappear , the 'alpha' is challenged and either usurped or the pack disintegrates (or the food returns, if starvation is the issue, or the alpha calms his tits instead of acting psycho).
They aren't humans. We aren't dogs. We have to meet at a comfortable ground. A spanking to us means discipline for something we did wrong, a spanking to them might mean 'holy **** , I'm going to die, DEFEND!'. We don't understand that the subtle eye shift when verbally reprimanding our dogs means that they concede; it's not always a full belly show that proclaims you are more dominant than they. The belly show is for when they trust you won't kill them; if you haven't earned that (I haven't yet, but we are working on it), then you still have work to do.
For those capable, of course. My old man just flops on his side for belly rubs. Jax won't even let me near him yet when he lays on his side; he immediately sits up for any petting.
I'm going to guess he was abused at least once while hopping houses through Craigslist before I adopted him. He's doing waaaaaay better than when I got him a year ago, but it's been a rough ride. I can't stress enough the importance of a strict schedule, long walks with a weighted backpack, and being calm but stern when disciplining. Especially for a nervous, frightened, or abused dog. And no hands, ever, especially with this type. The second you do, the trust you've built for so long and all the training you accomplished goes right out the window. You have to start all over.
He's a super sweet boy when everything is calm and quiet. He's a perfect friend for my daughter, who suffers from sensory integration disorder. Neither can deal with too much noise and they both thoroughly enjoy each others company, and know when enough is enough. I don't let them play unsupervised though, as I suggest with any and all animals also. Kids sometimes don't know what they're doing.
Forgot the picture of Jax currently begging. It's hard not to give in to that cute face. Sorry, can't rotate the image using edit on this phone. Why it auto rotated, I have no idea.
You have no idea how much it bugs me that the "alpha" thing about wolves is perpetuated and then people try and apply it to dogs and let alone humans like wtf.
Behaviors that those people think are your dog trying to assert its dominance over you or some ******** are the result of unclear or inconsistent messages you're sending your dog. Jumping up on you or wanting to be the first out the door to go on a walk isn't asserting superiority, the dog is just excited for ***** sake and hasn't been consistently taught otherwise that you don't like that behavior.
1.) Dogs are not wolves. They are descended from wolves, but domesticated dogs have drastically different displacements and temperaments from even captive wolves.
2.) Why are you climbing up my ass about being physically violent to dogs? I said nothing of the sort, that was all >>#5. All I said was dog owners who don't display dominance end up getting pushed around by their own pets.
>Why are you climbing up my ass about being physically violent to dogs?¨
I didn't want to make two comments.
>Dogs are not wolves.
of course not. Dog behavior evolved from a wolf and adapted to fit in with humans. The social behavior of a dog is a mix of wolf pack mentality and human family mentality, both of which are family orientated and in neither case does absolute alpha mentality exist.
If a dog gets violent with me, I'll get violent right back. I'm not letting a dog bite me, especially if it's my dog. I can't imagine raising a dog so poorly that it tries to bite someone else that lives in the same house because they got too close to me. It's not 'cute' it's dangerous.
No, I don't punch my dog, because my dog doesn't do stupid **** like try to bite me when I get close to the things he considers his property. Like his food bowl or his bed. Because he knows I'm the one in charge, not him.
I've had lots of dogs in the past (mostly collie or shepherd mixes of some sort) and the way to prove dominance to a dog would normally be gentle but firm correction and putting your body over theirs.
My husband and I just adopted a malamute/ german shepherd 9 month old puppy. He was great the first week and then snapped at me when I grabbed some spilled dog food between his paws. I went through my old training techniques that worked with all my other dogs but he kept getting more and more possessive (over his kennel, food bowl, even my husband). He'd stare at me and then lunge, snapping (like the old 'two for flinching' game).Then I did some research on the breed. Apparently, with breeds that are job types (intelligent, stubborn, ect) and not family type (ready to please, loving, ect), you have to show dominance in everything you do, not just during correction, or they will feign submission and then attack you when you least expect it.
Now, I make sure I go through doors before he does, I eat before he does, I give him the toes he wants to play with, I make sure he walks beside me on our walks instead of in front. I'm also training him on lots of different tricks that he has to do to get treats or petting. It's getting a lot better and now we're working on reducing his chase instinct because the poor cat is scared ******** .
I have a lab/malamute. For us, the first two years required some pretty strict training. Mine wasn't as dominant as yours, so not as strict as what you're doing though. Once we got past that two year mark though, everything stuck really well. She's a great dog now and rarely ignores a command. When she does it's usually because my mom is saying it in a high pitched voice with no tone to back it up, so it doesn't sound like an actual command. Point is if you keep with the training, your pup should be an amazing dog once he gets past the puppy stage.
You can do it man.
Clint Eastwood would frown upon the mere inference of you, failing at being strong.
Don't be your best now, just be enough for you, press hard and don't miss the chance to remember yourself your reasons for not giving up. lol jk die faggot
**trolololer used "*roll picture*"** **trolololer rolled image** Isn't that what that slightly autistic Australian guy was saying when he got punched by his friend? It was either a vine or a really short video
It really depends, if it's an old fart of a dog sometimes they get confused and growl at things they don't mean to. My old dog will sometimes growl when I'm doing something until she realizes its me then she shuts up and will try to lick me.
She also growled at a chair once....I think she thought it was a stranger.
We used to have a yorkie who would flip out whenever my siblings and I were wrestling He would start to snarl and force his way between us so we'd stop
My dog is half lab half malamute. If anyone is pushing/wrestling, she will push her way in between and bark at one of them (and I just mean one large bark, not a constant stream). If someone is hitting a punching bag, she will push her way in between and bark at the bag. If I am pushing someone, she will push her way in between and bark at the other person. If I hug anyone, she will just push her way in between. If someone does a big jump into the pool, she will run to where they jumped from and bark at them. She nipped my brother on the butt once when we were wrestling, nothing hard didn't even bruise, but we made sure she wasn't in the room if we were wrestling again.