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User avatar #7 - bakinboy ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
so you're just going to randomly wear a hockey glove in one clip and not explain that **** ?
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User avatar #22 to #7 - AcidFlux (09/25/2015) [-]
It shouldn't need explanation. Loading rounds into a magazine normally requires manual precision. Even just wearing normal gloves, it's a bit trickier than normal. So, wearing very bulky gloves, and still being able to load a magazine faster than someone without gloves is pretty slick.

You were first given a demonstration that compared normal loading procedure versus this speed loader. It should have been blatantly apparent what the purpose of showing the speed loader being used with 'hockey mitts' was meant to indicate.
User avatar #23 to #22 - zaywoot (09/25/2015) [-]
I mean, it would definitly need an explanation if you don't know anything about guns...
User avatar #24 to #23 - AcidFlux (09/25/2015) [-]
All you'd have to know about guns is that they use bullets.

There was literally a side-by-side demonstration of loading rounds into a magazine in the 'traditional way', compared to using a speed loader.

You don't know how 'magic' works, but you still read Harry Potter and understood it, right? Because it was explained to you along the way.
User avatar #25 to #24 - zaywoot (09/25/2015) [-]
Right, what I mean is that if you have never handled a gun, or had to load a magazine, maaaaaaaaaybe, just maaaybe, you wouldn't know that it can be tricky to do, so the demonstration with the gloves won't make sense, and since we didn't get an explanation, just a side by side pair of videos, people won't put those together.
I may not know how magic works in Harry Potter, but I don't think you know how people work in real life
User avatar #27 to #25 - AcidFlux (09/25/2015) [-]
I know that people can watch the guy on the left side at the beginning of the video, and see that he has to use his fingers to load the rounds. And that makes it perfectly clear that to perform this task, you normally need a level of manual dexterity. And it should be common sense that you don't have the same level of manual dexterity when wearing a bulky glove.

But perhaps I expect people to have basic powers of observation & common sense.
User avatar #30 to #27 - zaywoot (09/25/2015) [-]
No such thing as common sense, just what we know and what we don't - give a caveman a spoon and he won't even know to turn it the right way.
If you have never handled a gun in any way, and somebody shows you this video, he is not even gonna look to the left for a second, he will look at the loader and think "oh boy that's neat."
People don't take notice of things they aren't experienced with.
User avatar #31 to #30 - AcidFlux (09/25/2015) [-]
Time to simply agree to disagree. IMO, if a 'caveman would never understand a spoon', then nothing would have ever been invented int he first place. The human brain has the capacity to extrapolate from the current perceived reality. Granted, actually using that ability is rare, but I think it exists in everyone. It's only faded from disuse, and that's only because there is no necessity for creation in the average person's life.
User avatar #32 to #31 - zaywoot (09/25/2015) [-]
I'm not saying he would never understand the spoon, but people need time and experience with stuff before they learn and extrapolate, being shown a quick video like this is by no means enough time or experience, especially if on FJ, with which I mean that people are here for a quick laugh and then move on, chances are they aren't actually looking at the video, just watching it.
I saw that you're a former marine, think back at basic training, how much stupid **** did you guys do? How many silly mistakes that are now clear as day?
User avatar #63 to #32 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
I recognize your point. However, I still think the concept of loading rounds into a magazine is a simple idea, and even without firsthand experience, a casual observer should be able to grasp the basic operation.

It's like watching a baseball game. You don't have to have any skill in order to understand how the basic of the game works. Hit a ball with a stick, run around the bases, score a point.


Oh, and by the way:

burningsmurfs, atusek, legiah, jameswindy & chummyxray; Come on down!
User avatar #90 to #63 - atusek (09/26/2015) [-]
I was also slightly drunk when I read this discussion. Reading it sober doesn't warrant a thumb down. Apologies
User avatar #89 to #63 - atusek (09/26/2015) [-]
It's a well known fact in advertising that you have to cater to people who are deficient of common sense and critical thinking. (not the type of person i want handling a gun but I digress) hence the hockey glove. In an ideal world I would agree with you, but in this world we still have grown adults who cant tie their shoe laces.
Ok I got in there
User avatar #94 to #89 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
Valid perspective. Thanks!
User avatar #69 to #63 - chummyxray ONLINE (09/26/2015) [-]
Hola, I guess you mentioned me because you think I want to continue to thumb you down. Truth of the matter is I don't care about the discussion you're having, I only thumbed you down on those two posts because I didn't agree with how you saw the situations. Then you continued to go at it, which you're just fine for doing, but I still didn't agree. Thanks for the mention though, but like I said, I don't care enough to continue with it. Best of luck to ya and zay.
User avatar #85 to #69 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
Actually, it was so I could gain some insight. And now I have. Thank you.
User avatar #91 to #85 - chummyxray ONLINE (09/26/2015) [-]
Thanks for being cool with is, man. Hopefully you got your point across and it all ended well.
User avatar #93 to #91 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
No worries. Thanks for the feedback.
User avatar #80 to #63 - zaywoot (09/26/2015) [-]
Sure, but when they suddenly bring out something that seems unrelated to the untrained eye, they will ask for an explanation.
User avatar #86 to #80 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
I don't see how it's 'unrelated'. On the left, you are manually putting in rounds one at at time, using too hands. On the right, you're putting in five at a time, and much faster, and_ one handed..

I really don't think you need Billy May's voice saying
"In fact folks, it's so easy to load rounds one handed, you can do it even when wearing a heavy hockey glove!"_

I guess it boils down to the fact that have higher expectations for the average person's comprehension level than, well, the average person does.
User avatar #88 to #86 - zaywoot (09/26/2015) [-]
It isn't unrelated, but it seems so to people who don't know better.

I do think you have too high expectations, and in this case I think it's because you've been working with guns in the marine corp, things that seem obvious to you will fly right by laymen, but I don't know you, you could just have high expectations just generally...
User avatar #92 to #88 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
I'm an optimist and probably generally have more faith in people than I should
User avatar #95 to #92 - zaywoot (09/27/2015) [-]
And I'm a cynic, so there we have it
#87 to #86 - AcidFlux (09/26/2015) [-]
**AcidFlux used "*roll picture*"**
**AcidFlux rolled image**

*two

* one-handed
* I really don't think you need Billy May's voice saying_ "In fact folks, it's so easy to load rounds one handed, you can do it even when wearing a heavy hockey glove!"_



I really hate this comment interface...


User avatar #54 to #23 - kimom (09/26/2015) [-]
Yes but they are marketing towards people who know about and own guns.
#66 to #54 - anon (09/26/2015) [-]
Exactly
User avatar #57 to #54 - zaywoot (09/26/2015) [-]
Of course they are, but we're on funnyjunk right now and a lot of people here have never even seen a gun in real life - so claiming that it doesn't need an explanation, especially to a guy that asks for one, is complete and utter ********
#42 to #23 - anon (09/25/2015) [-]
i don't know anything about guns but i am not retarded and understood it
#9 to #7 - guysimadeanaccount (09/25/2015) [-]
it was a demonstration of how easy the loader is to use even when wearing heavy gloves n stuff
#2 - kisssofdeath (09/25/2015) [-]
when i saw the bauer vapor hockey gloves i was like damn this guy must be loaded but then he pulls out a fukin silenced mp9
User avatar #49 to #2 - imashitbricks (09/25/2015) [-]
*suppressed mp9
User avatar #64 to #49 - Visual (09/26/2015) [-]
It's the same thing m80
User avatar #67 to #64 - imashitbricks (09/26/2015) [-]
No it's not. A silencer implies it's silenced the gun which is untrue. It's called a suppressor because it suppresses the sound, it's nowhere near silent.
#72 to #67 - Visual (09/26/2015) [-]
There's no such thing as a "silencer" that makes the gun completely silent. Silencer and suppressor are synonymous. There is literally no way to contain the loud crack that exploding gunpowder makes. All that tube on the end of the barrel does is contain the pressure wave coming out of the barrel from the propellant gasses rapidly expanding from inside the gun.

Want to prove me wrong? Look up any video of a truly silent gun like you imply AND NOT FROM A MOVIE and paste it here. I guarantee you won't find any and will probably find several articles explaining what I just did.
User avatar #75 to #72 - imashitbricks (09/26/2015) [-]
Thanks for proving my point? It's called a suppressor because it suppresses, it's not called a silencer because it doesn't silence. You just said it yourself yet you still tried to say they're the same thing when one of them doesn't even exist.
User avatar #76 to #75 - Visual (09/26/2015) [-]
What? No.

My point was that it's not incorrect to call a gun with a suppressor "silenced" because they both mean the same thing.

Unless you're trying to to be some kind of snarky smart ass who wants to refer to everything literally then never mind, this was a waste of my time.
User avatar #77 to #76 - imashitbricks (09/26/2015) [-]
si·lent
adjective
not making or accompanied by any sound.

It's not silenced. It's suppressed. It's called a suppressor, not a silencer.
User avatar #81 to #78 - imashitbricks (09/26/2015) [-]
It calls it a silencer once on the top of the page so people who don't know what it's actually called know they're on the right page. Do you see how it's called a suppressor the entire time?
User avatar #82 to #81 - Visual (09/26/2015) [-]
Notice how they didn't use sound suppressor nor sound moderator either? Because they're synonymous and can be switched out anytime in the article and still make sense.

Face it dude, you're just wrong and your only argument is that "it's not literally silenced" as if that means anything. A lot of things nowadays are named even though their function does not mean the literal definition of the name. "Horsepower" doesn't refer to the amount of energy one literal Horse can output. "Pencil lead" isn't actual lead. "Silencers" don't actually silence.

Things are named that way because it's assumed that most people can put 2 and 2 together and understand the general concept behind these names. There's literally nothing you can do to change this, get over it.
User avatar #83 to #82 - imashitbricks (09/26/2015) [-]
The only people who call them silencers are the people who don't know what they're actually called. And what the hell are you trying to say about "sound suppressors"? Do you call it a sound silencer? "It's not literally silenced" is the only argument needed. Are you going to call a bicycle a motorcycle? No, because they're two different things. And only 5 year olds are the ones that don't know that graphite is whats inside a pencil, are you a 5 year old that doesn't the difference between suppressed and silenced?
#70 to #67 - anon (09/26/2015) [-]
Well it tries man it tries.
User avatar #71 to #70 - imashitbricks (09/26/2015) [-]
Clearly not hard enough.
#74 to #71 - anon (09/26/2015) [-]
Click to show spoiler
You can either
A. Give up you aren't going to change anyone's vocabulary preferences
B. Mute the video and turn that suppressor into a silencer
User avatar #18 to #2 - roninneko ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
Probably because it's a video from a manufacturing company, so they have the budget and certifications for all that stuff...
#15 to #2 - nexdemise ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
Full auto too.
#33 - brackgrapple (09/25/2015) [-]
Some sounds are more than perfect
#51 to #33 - sinjection (09/26/2015) [-]
.500 S&W?
#34 to #33 - amalah (09/25/2015) [-]
Oh god, the BRRRRT at the end of content...
The sound of loading and firing this majestic thing...
I don't do guns, but **** these are sexy.
#3 - whatsnottaken (09/25/2015) [-]
Wow this was really cool when I saw it 2 days ago posted by someone else too.
#4 to #3 - anon (09/25/2015) [-]
Good for you, you literal .1% percent.
#6 to #3 - spearpwi ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
Oh god you've seen this before? Oh man I'm so sorry. How must that feel? I can't believe other people HAVEN'T seen this yet. Bunch of noobs. They must be so stupid compared to you. Wow.
#37 - majordegree (09/25/2015) [-]
When you are going for payback but have a Ice hockey match after..
User avatar #38 to #37 - moonmist (09/25/2015) [-]
Thats how you spot a real hockey player from a fake one. The fake one needs a gun whereas the real player would just drop his gloves and fight with his fists.
#13 - ldnelson (09/25/2015) [-]
Loading by hand just feels so much more personal though. You form a connection with each individual round.

Plus being from a state that doesn't allow "high capacity magazines" there's only so much good this could do for me
User avatar #45 - thempc (09/25/2015) [-]
holy **** , it's an actual clipazine
User avatar #73 to #45 - hamsterball (09/26/2015) [-]
nah, it's just a clip. i've thought about it for about a month, and it's just a clip. Now if it was part of the magazine, then it would be a clipazine. Someone should really design that though.
User avatar #84 to #73 - thempc (09/26/2015) [-]
yeah i know it's still technically a clip attached to a magazine but that joke just came to mind when i saw this
#12 - anon (09/25/2015) [-]
You guys realize that will only work for magazines that load like rifle mags. If you have to slide the round in instead of press down it's useless. So any ar chambered in a pistol caliber could use that, but that's where it stops, really.
#19 to #12 - anon (09/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, I don't think I've personally encountered anything that this would work with.
User avatar #36 to #12 - atusek (09/25/2015) [-]
>pistol caliber AR
>pleb.
User avatar #14 to #12 - historybuff (09/25/2015) [-]
ok, so it works for rifles and not pistols, cool
User avatar #17 to #14 - roninneko ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
He's wrong. It works for any magazine with the right feed lip dimensions, regardless of into what gun it goes.
#52 - noburt (09/26/2015) [-]
/k/ just came.
#55 to #52 - atonial (09/26/2015) [-]
/k/ame*
#46 - timmity (09/25/2015) [-]
I think guns are noisy, obnoxious items people buy to make them feel less insecure about the size of their dicks.
But I'll be damned if that isn't a cool invention, and those sounds.
Oh my god.
#68 to #46 - hamsterball (09/26/2015) [-]
>items people buy to make them feel less insecure about the size of their dicks
is anything that people care about nowadays automatically about dick size?
that must mean you've obviously never owned nor cared about firearms then.

User avatar #65 to #46 - Visual (09/26/2015) [-]
Guns are fun to shoot though.
#56 to #46 - atonial (09/26/2015) [-]
>feel less insecure about the size of their dicks

wew lad
User avatar #41 - foamytesquirrel (09/25/2015) [-]
Who's that fagget who is bored all the time and does music stuff?
Whoeer it is, do that.
#39 - nizarut (09/25/2015) [-]
I like the clicking noise it makes
#8 - miwauturu (09/25/2015) [-]
Perfect for when I need to load up right after playing hockey.
User avatar #11 - pocketstooheavy (09/25/2015) [-]
TMP <3
User avatar #44 to #11 - roliga (09/25/2015) [-]
is ****** and pointless
#5 - hongkong ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
User avatar #29 - couragethedog (09/25/2015) [-]
the first couple of seconds
"Buddy you're a boy make a big noise. Playing in the street gonna be a big man some day"
User avatar #21 - misterdonny ONLINE (09/25/2015) [-]
Finally, a more efficient way of shooting up a school
User avatar #62 - cockenballs (09/26/2015) [-]
It can be used with a hockey glove, perfect for canadians
User avatar #61 - jokexplain ONLINE (09/26/2015) [-]
Gee thanks for demonstrating that it works if you're wearing boxing gloves I was worried about it being useless if I suddenly teleported into team fortress 2
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