well, in all actuality, they ARE people, its not like people committing crimes makes them non human, theyre still human, just ******* stupid/amoral/ ****** in the head, you get my point.
You know, I think we need to give our grandparents more credit. Last night I decided to watch a video of a bunch of old Superman cartoons from the 1940's and in one of the shorts the villain was a Native American. But he didn't have any stereotypes; no Feathers, no braids, no face paint, nothing. Just a dude in a suit trying to take back his ancestors' land. And I was really surprised, considering how much uproar people make about old cartoons. Saying that they were either white or racially insensitive; but I guess people don't remember things that don't offend them ?
I loved those cartoons growing up! My favorite has to be the episode where Superman faces the giant creature from the Artic. The music is so fun and entertaining. It really makes you feel like the creature was just this huge lumbering beast. Sorry, had a little nostalgia trip there.
That's why I think being overly PC is a step back. There were plenty of non stereotypical depictions of ethnicity and good female characters without angry people acting as if there were none and getting outraged. The negatives were emphasized instead of the positive leading people to just look back ignorantly at a golden age with disdain. Good writers have always existed and almost all good writers actually research their material or have some basic knowledge enough to write their characters like humans rather than stereotypes. Well, anyway point is I agree with ya dude, people definitely tend to remember the past that suits them.
This whole PC movement is going full circle. We had segregation of race, then we got rid of it, then we started to ease together, now we are starting to break apart and soon we will likely segregate again or something like it.
Look at how we evolved in cartoons. Magic School Bus and Captain Planet are great examples. They were great and classic. They were mostly known for bringing in a person of every race/sex into a team that got along. That was a huge thing back then and started a trend that would have mixed races/sexes in cartoons so it wasn't all just white characters. Fast forward a few years and you have a lot of great shows where there is mixed race and it really isn't even forced. It just feels right and normal because it wasn't forced. Fast forward to now and people are forcing race/sex into shows trying to force diversity when it wasn't even a problem. Shows are going to start having one of every race/sex again. Just watch. I figure soon after that it's going to go right back to single race cartoons again. Full circle.
**** PC culture. It literally helps no one and is actually doing far more harm than good.
This is more or less the first time in history society's tried to do right by each other. Of course we're going to get it wrong at first. Unfortunately as a whole we're extremely short-sighted, and rather than giving things time to mature, if they are inconvenient NOW we say they are wrong and must be abolished.
So instead of having the time we need to take this viewpoint of the super-PCs and tone it down to the halfway point, where we actually start giving a **** about each other instead of working on all this division and bigotry and racism and the "I have/am this so I'm better than you." and all the people using anti-PC as a front for being hateful, or angry that their 'right' to be abusive of others is being threatened.... well, frankly we're probably never going to see it BECAUSE of these people.
A big-ass cultural shift like this would take generations of trial and error, fine-tuning and acceptance. Instead, people get butthurt that they can't hate on people without some sort of backlash instead of being praised for it, and thus we're not going to see that kind of evolution any time within the next century for sure. We get more and more selfish and self-centered as time goes on.
There was cartoons that would be considered racist by modern standards. It wasn't only in America, many of the early Tintin comics had pretty racist stuff as well.
sometimes I feel the contrary. I feel like people beautify the past a lot, when a lot of the time it sucked ass. Saying things like "1940's gangsters were gentlemen, not like today ugh!" irks me. Little things like that.
I feel you. Sure, when they were interacting with certain people, they were polite and gentlemanly... but they were still ******* criminals for a living.
I played "historical fantasy". I was a steam-powered skeleton with a Gatling gun.
I also played science fiction. I was a robot warrior who hailed from an empire so powerful it had a capital ship several trillion (to the power of several trillion) universes big. It cut through billions of universes every second.
So was the ship its own self contained universe? Could you even consider something that big to be a ship and not just a universe? What would even be the point of building something that big?
Oh wait I forgot, to an 8-year old it doesn't matter if it makes any sense, it just has to sound cool.
canadian here. and i went to a mostly indian school and they told me. never call them natives..they are indians...but they change their minds every so often
No, he's got a point. A lot of the more vocal anti-PC folk, especially the ones MOST butthurt about PC are the same people you can find elsewhere complaining that they can't use racial slurs and attack less privileged groups and minorities verbally without getting slapped in the face.
Where normally they'd be praised for it.
Right now "PC" is a buzzword, you're MEANT to hate anything it implies connotation to, as a knee-jerk reaction. But if you step back and look at it? With some toning down, some fine-tuning, it's exactly what the human race needs. The more divisive and hateful we get, the weaker we become as communities and society as a whole. We have less political, economic, and social power than we would as a united whole who didn't ******* hate each other for the stupidest reasons, or working hard at trying to feel more important than the guy next to you (even if it just means making him feel less important).
Current PC is too far past where it needs to be, but it is something we need. We should not be encouraging and praising people for being asshats and socially destructive. That goes for all human beings, no matter what side of the fence you're on.
Well, I mean, when political correctness leads to people getting arrested for disagreeing with someone, it's clearly a bad thing.
Slippery slope isn't a fallacy when it actually happens.
Fallacy isn't about being right or wrong.
It's about right and wrong way of arguing.
If you had to pick between 50 different doors with only one being the right answer, and you pick one because "it's blue" then that's a crap argument.
Regardless of whether or not it's the right door.
Well, back when I was young, I was allowed to play the Native American because I looked like one. I got my ass kicked by a bunch of other kids playing cowboys. Should've picked the winning side instead.
**krayon used "*roll picture*"** **krayon rolled image** My brother and I used to play "Rodney kin and the LA Police Department" we sure went through a lot of brown shoe polish.
In South America, notably Brazil and Argentina, the Spanish government imposed a policy of destruction of the indigenous population. That's why you never hear of "indian" uprisings or reservations for native peoples in those countries. Because there aren't any "Indians" (still alive) to create these problems.
**daemonicdemeanor used "*roll picture*"** **daemonicdemeanor rolled image**Well **** . I played beaners and border patrol. I'd say that's less politically correct than cowboys and Indians. Especially considering Indians are nearly extinct and cowboys are mythical creatures invented to sell cigarettes.