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Pepper Spray. I also think that oy vey. my college doesn' t allow us to carry pepper spray for self defense cause they claim its a weapon i' m at a culinary sch

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my college doesn' t allow us to carry
pepper spray for self defense cause they
claim its a weapon
i' m at a culinary school
every single student is carrying several
hundred dollars worth of knives around
with them and they teach classes on
how to break down whole animals easily
with said knives
but no pepper spray
no thats way too dangerous
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#7 - burytia (08/29/2015) [-]
get some cayenne pepper and carry that around like pocket sand

when some **** comes at you looking for trouble....you know what to do
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#108 to #30 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
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User avatar #2 - vorarephilia (08/29/2015) [-]
plus they could just get some California reaper juice. say it's for cooking.
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#53 to #2 - radicalkid (08/29/2015) [-]
Found a California reaper Seriously why do white people in California put avocado on everything? I feel that it's only good as guacamole.
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#60 to #53 - bigbuttjackson (08/29/2015) [-]
Because avocado tastes good.
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#95 to #53 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
Avocado is amazing. It has fatty acids similar to fish, which are the best kind for the human body. Alpha-linolenic acid (an omega-3 fatty acid) and oleic acid are key fats provided by avocado. Avocados are a good source of pantothenic acid, dietary fiber, vitamin K, copper, folate, vitamin B6, potassium, vitamin E, and vitamin C.
Also, it's really creamy, and it goes well with Mexican food, which we eat a ******** of in California, especially SoCal.
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#135 to #53 - commontroll (08/30/2015) [-]
White Texan here, avocado is amazing, and we do it because God wills it.
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#133 to #53 - myreadyassyolk (08/30/2015) [-]
Guess I'm the white minority.
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User avatar #127 to #53 - noseses (08/30/2015) [-]
Avocado, cilantro, and ranch mixture goes great on a lot of things
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User avatar #36 to #2 - containlettersonly (08/29/2015) [-]
Or get a gun, because America.
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User avatar #52 to #36 - cubanwhiteman (08/29/2015) [-]
In America, we fillet our fish with guns.
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#104 to #52 - creatablejam (08/30/2015) [-]
lightly fried fish fillets
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User avatar #77 to #52 - supername (08/30/2015) [-]
We lightly fry* our fish fillets with guns
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User avatar #92 to #77 - plasticcup (08/30/2015) [-]
i understood that reference.jpg
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User avatar #29 to #2 - hopporto ONLINE (08/29/2015) [-]
Your text color is so barely different that it scares me.
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User avatar #50 to #2 - wafflewarior ONLINE (08/29/2015) [-]
I thought it was a Carolina reaper
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#106 to #63 - nickypickle (08/30/2015) [-]
I didn't
need to see that
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#82 to #63 - furiousmarshmellow (08/30/2015) [-]
Getting red thumbs just because of the gif.
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#134 to #63 - myreadyassyolk (08/30/2015) [-]
That gif should never be related.
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#23 - anon (08/29/2015) [-]
If you're a chef and the first thing you think of your knives of are as weapons, you're a terrible ******* chef with no respect for your knives.
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User avatar #85 to #23 - dingdongpancakes (08/30/2015) [-]
Kind of like the guys who are like "I don't trust people who CCW handguns because if I had one I would be too tempted shoot someone".
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User avatar #34 to #23 - Silver Quantum (08/29/2015) [-]
that's not the point you ******* dick cheese. the point is that the school board doesn't allow pepper spray because they're considered weapons, and at the same time they don't consider knives as such which is a retarded logic on their part
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#145 to #34 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
Kitchen knives aren't weapons, they're tools ******* . If you want to ban every tool that can be used as a weapon, then ban all lengths of pipe, anything that can be swung, handcuff everyone so they can't punch people, shackle them so they can't kick people and put them all in padded cells away from each other.

Pepper spray has one use, to incapacitate another person. Knives *can* be used to harm someone, but their main intended purpose, especially kitchen knives, are for preparing food. You cunt.
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#54 to #34 - anon (08/29/2015) [-]
Hey, why don't you stick a cocktail stick under your toe nail and kick a wall you inbred **** ?

My point is kitchen knives to a chef *aren't* weapons, because a trained chef who has any respect for his craft would never use their knives like that. Pepper spray has it's intended use to be used against another human being, there is no other use, you can't use it to spice up your ******* chili.

It's like baseball bats can be used to bludgeon someone to death, but you don't ban them from the baseball team because that's not their intended purpose. On the same note, humans aren't supposed to be ******* retarded, but you just have to go and be the exception don't you? ******** .
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User avatar #56 to #54 - Silver Quantum (08/29/2015) [-]
it seems your single digit IQ makes it difficult for you to understand words you donkey **** gargling cunt nugget. the post isn't about what kitchen knives are to chefs. no ******* **** chefs don't think of them as weapons. the content is about the ridiculous perspective the school board has on a self defense product, labeling it as a weapon, when knives, regardless of their purpose, should be labeled as such just as well.

"It's like baseball bats can be used to bludgeon someone to death, but you don't ban them from the baseball team because that's not their intended purpose."

you mean like with pepper spray's main purpose being to defend yourself? and not to use it as a weapon to purposely harm another person?

you're easily one of the top 3 most ridiculously autistic people i've seen on this site
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#144 to #56 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
And how do you use the pepper spray to defend yourself? Oh right BY PURPOSELY HARMING ANOTHER PERSON!
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User avatar #24 to #23 - thelastamerican (08/29/2015) [-]
If you're a chef and you don't realize that your knife can be used as a weapon you're a terrible critical thinker.
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User avatar #28 to #24 - marno (08/29/2015) [-]
If you're a knife you don't realize that your chef can be used as a critical thinker, you're a terrible weapon.
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#37 to #28 - sturmbeard (08/29/2015) [-]
If you're a weapon amd do't realize that your knife can be used as a chef, you're a terrible weapon.
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#20 - mrwillje ONLINE (08/29/2015) [-]
1. Knives aren't good for self defence against an attacker if you're untrained, especially if they're kitchen knives that are probably zipped up in a special case/bag
2.Kitchen knives aren't weapons
3.Pepper spray can be used easily by most people
4."they teach classes on how to break down animals easily with said knives" I don't think fending off an attacker using a knife is quite the same as jointing a ******* chicken

Having said that it's still stupid that they can't carry pepper spray.
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#90 to #20 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
I think the point here is that knives can be used offensively, hence the reason OP added the dismembering animals part.

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#118 to #20 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
1 & 2
Uh..yeah...sure...kay. Cuz it's totally difficult to stab a sumbitch, right?
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User avatar #140 to #20 - dnf (08/30/2015) [-]
bitch please, what if i'm the attacker?

i can easily take out said knife out of said plastic and slit any bitches throat. and don't you dare tell me that **** ain't sharp enough
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User avatar #33 to #20 - drpenguinz (08/29/2015) [-]
i kinda expect them to have like razor sharp knives
so sharp even cod knifes are a joke in comparison. and those instakill.
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#122 to #20 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
I'll stab you with a kitchen knife then (since its not a weapon) and we'll see if your opinion changes then.
Dumbass
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User avatar #59 to #20 - thatlittledoll (08/29/2015) [-]
I thought the point was that they weren't trying to defend themselves with knives, hence the pepper spray, but could use the knives to kill a person (nonattacker).
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User avatar #22 to #20 - jzwangpk (08/29/2015) [-]
I agree, but it's worth noting that even if you're untrained, pulling out a big knife is probably going to give the attacker pause.
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User avatar #31 to #22 - mrwillje ONLINE (08/29/2015) [-]
Yeah, good point actually
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User avatar #35 to #22 - drpenguinz (08/29/2015) [-]
the point is: if you wanted to use your knife as lethal weapon you dont need to be trained, cause people dont expect that **** .
and also the attacker wouldnt attack with pepperspray. you dont use pepperspray as a weapon if you could use knives.
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User avatar #72 to #20 - severepwner (08/30/2015) [-]
>Kitchen knives aren't weapons

Oh good, they're magically completely impractical as weapons now. Thank goodness. I was afraid someone might use a bat, any kind of wrench, a 2x4, or a brick as a weapon some day.

But since they weren't designed as weapons, we're all completely safe.
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#38 to #20 - klowserpok (08/29/2015) [-]
>kitchen knives aren't wepons
Thats why you gotta use...
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#6 - micekill (08/29/2015) [-]
you can easily either overpower a knifer or run away, pepper spray is just easy, press the button and the victim is down, no chance of escaping.
still dumb to ban a self defense weapon
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#10 to #6 - mattyl (08/29/2015) [-]
There's no thing like a "self defense weapon" though, that's why it's banned. I mean some dude can spray it in a girls face and then rape her or something
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#12 to #10 - endospore (08/29/2015) [-]
"Hm, rape is a serious enough crime, there's no way I'm going to get pepper spray and add in a possible school disciplinary hearing on top of that!"

If someone's planning on raping a girl anyway, why would a school policy saying 'no pepper spray on campus' stop him from bringing pepper spray to use?
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#14 to #12 - mattyl (08/29/2015) [-]
You're right of course, I'm just pointing out that there is nothing like a "self-defense weapon" that only a defendent could use, there are just weapons.
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User avatar #65 to #14 - thatoneiranianguy (08/29/2015) [-]
...weapons that can be used in the manner of self defense.

You're arguing semantics. It's how you use them which is what makes them what they are.
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#143 to #65 - mattyl (08/30/2015) [-]
Talking semantics is the entire point of both comments, I don't know what it is that people are hearing that I'm not saying.
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User avatar #139 to #6 - dnf (08/30/2015) [-]
you can easily either overpower a knifer or run away

what the **** .
no, no you can't. you will get stabbed . even in martial arts or self defense with knives they teach you, if your fighting some one who's got a blade when you dont you will get cut. theirs is no way you can jackie chan your way out of some one pulling a knife on you man. you will get stabbed. especially if you turn your back. unless you your chi is at the level of a kung fu master that can relax your own body enough to not get cut (true **** ) you have little to no chance against a "knifer"
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#147 to #139 - micekill (08/30/2015) [-]
>somone takes out knife
>haul ass
>knife can't reach me at 50 km per hour
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#9 to #6 - doctersmiles (08/29/2015) [-]
girl way back when with a black belt or something got raped in an alley at her school. afterwards she requested that people be allowed to bring tasers and pepper spray with them because her defence training didn't help for **** .
A week after she said that on the local news or whatever, there was like three or four cases of college kids just teasing there friends because kids are ******** , that put her request in the ground real fast.
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#21 - moonmist (08/29/2015) [-]
True story
> Be Me
> 10th grade
> Taking Fine Arts Class (sewing and **** )
> Making a shirt for a teacher down the hall
> Have fabric pinned to pattern
> Take pinned fabric pattern down to other teachers room (it's my next class so figure I'll continue to work on it there)
> Security guard stops me
> Asks what are those
> Reply sewing pins
> Sent to office
> Cops Called
> Have dangerous weapon
> Suspended 9 days and meeting with school board
> Never got fabric back to finish shirt
> Failed class
> Suspended and failed for using a required material for the class
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User avatar #25 to #21 - thelastamerican (08/29/2015) [-]
I'm really glad I went to school in the country. Rednecks everywhere, but everyone had a pocket knife. We didn't have to worry about being suspended for stupid **** . Then again, the racism problem...
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#41 - lolollo (08/29/2015) [-]
I only minored in chemistry and one of the classes I had to take had a lab with an experiment involving nerve gas...

no pepper spray though! You can't be trusted!
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User avatar #62 to #41 - azumeow (08/29/2015) [-]
We used radioactive materials in a lab I helped teach.
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User avatar #74 to #62 - scowler (08/30/2015) [-]
Better have used HAZMAT Suits, or someone's gonna sue...
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User avatar #150 to #74 - azumeow (08/30/2015) [-]
Literally no form of protection, except for the containers we held them in.
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User avatar #153 to #150 - scowler (08/31/2015) [-]
Unless Liability Waivers were signed, I smell a lawsuit down the line...
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User avatar #154 to #153 - azumeow (08/31/2015) [-]
Doubt it. Those kids probably didn't even realize what they were working with, considering how little they paid attention.
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User avatar #155 to #154 - scowler (08/31/2015) [-]
If you say so.
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#70 to #41 - anon (08/29/2015) [-]
I literally had an exam that asked us us to write out a total synthesis of TNT.
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User avatar #102 - tsoper (08/30/2015) [-]
Huh thats weird.. i carry a pistol with me at my college, i dont know what ******* school you go to ...
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#73 - scowler (08/30/2015) [-]
Commie "logic" everybody...
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User avatar #123 - xebx ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-]
I saw "pepper spray" and "culinary school" and instantly thought this was gonna end with someone using pepper spray as a seasoning or something.
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#115 - zyvac (08/30/2015) [-]
I took electrical in college and we were required to carry a knife as we needed to learn to strip wires without wire strippers and well, a knife is just always handy in any trade.
One of the dumbasses in my class brought in a massive hunting knife.
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User avatar #8 - therealtjthemedic (08/29/2015) [-]
Still a weapon though... Like, you can't advocate against guns and **** for self defense and then carry around ******* chemical weapons with you.
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#11 to #8 - drewjitsu (08/29/2015) [-]
That's a false equivalence and has little to do with the post, which highlights the irony of the situation: They can carry loads of knives around with them everywhere but can't carry pepper spray because it's a weapon.
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#15 to #11 - ByeliVolk (08/29/2015) [-]
Almost all of their knives in Culinary school are kept in a case just not on person. So for them to use the knife it would mean sitting the carrying case down opening it and then pulling out your selected knife and stabbing somebody with it. Where as pepper spray can be carried around on a ******* key chain and needs no training to be used and anybody over the age of 18 can buy it and have it on them legally.

If you buy a taser or pepper spray you must first be subjugated to it in order to use it so that you may feel the effect on yourself before you subjugate it to another person.

Also that is not a false equivalent. Pepper spray is a chemical weapon that is banned in warfare but is okay to be used in riot control and self defense purposes. So saying "We should ban all guns because they are dangerous and really easy to use / get a hold of." the same can be said for Pepper spray and tasers and those are even easier to get than firearms and no one thinks twice when using them because they fall under the whole mindset of Less than Lethal alternative. So no, it is not a false equivalence but a different state of mind when in use.
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#16 to #15 - drewjitsu (08/29/2015) [-]
Okay we could break it down and pretend this is debate class, but it isn't, it was a joke. Aside from that, the false equivalence occurs when he draws parallels between guns and pepper spray. The assertion that you can't disapprove of firearms while condoning pepper spray implies that the two are equivalent, which they aren't. That's why it is a false equivalence.
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#17 to #16 - ByeliVolk (08/29/2015) [-]
But I have just said in the last statement that they are equivalent since both can cause death, Justify to me the use of pepper spray that you cannot justify the use of a firearm.

I get the joke but what you said does not hold up when you think about things logically.
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#45 to #17 - lolollo (08/29/2015) [-]
If I understand this right...you believe pepper spray can kill a man?
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#46 to #45 - ByeliVolk (08/29/2015) [-]
Yes it can. it is in rare cases but it can kill people. It can kill people through allergic means or through other ways. It has been reported to happen though rare.
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#114 to #46 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
Well, in that case, we should ban banana cream pies to the face because, in rare cases, it can kill a man with a banana allergy.
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User avatar #58 to #46 - lolollo (08/29/2015) [-]
Do you have sources for this? I'm just having trouble understanding the physical means it goes to kill someone. Capsaicin is an irritant, not an allergin.
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#43 to #17 - drewjitsu (08/29/2015) [-]
Pepper spray killing is rare. Gunshot wounds have a much higher mortality rate. Now pull your head out of your ass and stop trying to be a douche. You know damn well that guns =/= to pepper spray and that getting shot is much worse than getting sprayed. The differences are severe enough that considering them the same is fallacious.

Here's what you're doing: Pointy knives can kill people, so can pointy pencils. Therefore any rules/laws/regulation pertaining to knives should also be applied to pencils.

That's just ******* stupid.
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#47 to #43 - ByeliVolk (08/29/2015) [-]
The baseline question we had was this they are both weapons correct? if they are both weapons should they not have rules and regulation against them the same as guns. Both can cause deaths though one is more rare than the other. In no way did say that guns hurt less or more than pepper spray in anyway. Both are can be used to assault or defend one self. So the first argument is not totally invalid nor false equivalence both are weapons and both can harm a person.

Now insulting me does not help you at all. You use a straw man argument with pointy knives = pointy pencils and both can kill so they both need laws and regulations. What I am saying is that there needs to be more laws and regulations against pepper spray and tasers because of how easily they are obtained and how dangerous they are just like people say about guns. Its not about the kill counts its about how both are dangerous they are.
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#67 to #47 - drewjitsu (08/29/2015) [-]
I call you ******* stupid because you're comparing pepper spray to guns and pretending that they're the same. You know that they aren't, so you're just being intentionally thick. Studies have proven that many people would rather win the argument than admit they're wrong, and will continue to hold on to a wrong belief for the sake of winning. I think you're one of those people.

Lets just take a look at the gun vs. pepper spray thing. Almost all deaths involving pepper spray, the victim had a medical condition such as asthma. The deaths involving guns don't discriminate. A well aimed shot will always be fatal, whereas the best aimed pepper spray never will be unless your target is already sick. A gun can hold loads of bullets, but even with 8 you can get 8 targets if you're a good shot. Shoot up a school with a gun and you can potentially kill as many students as you have bullets until the cops show up. Do the same with pepper spray and you'll be arrested for assault and everybody would be wondering if you actually meant to kill them or had just lost your marbles completely and thought the pepper spray was a flame thrower. As for my "straw man," i'm mocking you, dude, doesn't have to adhere to logic precisely....like the joke in the content.
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#148 to #67 - ByeliVolk (08/30/2015) [-]
Okay ******* lets get one thing here. You are basically doing the same tactics everyone else uses to justify an argument and to prove they are right also. I think pepper spray is a weapon just like a gun. One is more severe than then the other but on a baseline both are ******* weapons. I am not dense I know guns are dangerous that is why I practice safe gun control and understand that it is a weapon that can harm or kill people if misused. I also think it is highly retarded to advocate gun bans but support the use of pepper spray and tasers for the use of self-defense since on the baseline they were developed for the exact same reason weapons of self-defense. Now can pepper spray kill an entire school that would be a no. Can a taser kill an entire school that would be a no. Could you kill an entire school with a gun? maybe but that is a lot of ammunition and hopefully not getting mobbed by people and beaten to death.

The only thing I am trying to get through to you is that they are not false equivalence both can cause deaths though one is much more rare then the other and both are weapons on the baseline regardless of what happens when used.
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#149 to #148 - drewjitsu (08/30/2015) [-]
Pepper spray and guns are different enough that they need different regulations. Regardless of your opinion, the fact remains that pepper spray and guns are not equal. What is the effective range of pepper spray? how about a gun? It is illegal to discharge a firearm in city limits (in my hometown at least), is there any reason that should also apply to pepper spray? All handguns must have a permit, does pepper spray need that as well? How much would that cost to implement? If they are truly that equivalent, we need to step up our pepper spray laws.

C'mon dude, stop being dense. Although, maybe I'm being dense and just feeding a troll here. I mean, who really thinks that an irritant and a bullet are the same?
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#156 to #149 - ByeliVolk (08/31/2015) [-]
Listen the baseline question to the initial argument was simply this they are both a weapon, both can be used in assault and in self-defense, both have been able to cause deaths. They are both designed to be weapons though I view the firearm more useful because it can be used to hunt and bring in meat to supply with food which Pepper spray cannot. I am not being dense in the least here. I am not arguing the factor that guns have a higher mortality rate than pepper spray nor did I bring up that fact at all that has been you. If everything was based on numbers and amount of deaths related to it than the were would be such an uproar about banning cars and greasy fatty foods which cause more deaths by themselves than firearms in America. Ultimately it is up to the user on how the damn things are used and it is not always used for its intended purpose regardless.

I am doing a simple x=y comparison which is gun=weapon and so does pepper spray=weapon so if both x's equal the same thing they are equivalent to each other. You are adding in ******* extra variables that are not even apart of the initial statement. On the baseline both are WEAPONS both of which can be used for self-defense. I find it idiotic to try and ban guns but keep pepper spray since both can be used to either assault someone or for self-defense.

Yes I do call for more stringent matters in the case of pepper spray and tasers. They are easier to get and even on college campus some groups go around and hand out the key chain ones like they are ******* candy. These have been used to quote unquote passify potential rapists but some people are so ******* paranoid or do not take it seriously and think nothing of it when they simply pepper spray someone because they felt threatened. Being hit with pepper spray for walking up to somebody and them spraying you because all are doing is asking a question is ******* ridiculous. I view we should have the same restrictions on them as we do with guns aka background checks before purchase the implementation would be extremely cheap and cost next to nothing to do. Also in the case of less than lethal weapons I view that you have to have it tested on you first so you can understand what you are doing to the person when using it just like I support the idea of going through a firearm training course in order to own a firearm. And in order to carry pepper spray and a taser which are both easily concealable I view you should have to have a concealed carry permit which is a more intrusive background check done by the police in order to own them. So what I am getting at is since they are both dangerous if used incorrectly they should both be subjugated to many of the same laws in order own, posses, and carry them just like we do with firearms.
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#158 to #156 - drewjitsu (09/02/2015) [-]
Here's where you're flawed. Guns = weapons and pepper spray = weapons, therefore they are equivalent. Here are some other weapons: Cannons, knives, halberds, bazookas, IED, hand grenade, flamethrower, tank, mortar, javelin, swords, axes, atlatl, rungu, bola....the list is huge. Anyway, all of these things are equivalent? They are the same? They all fall under the same category?

Lets just take two: Knives and guns, both weapons. Are they equivalent? No. Guns are projectile weapons that harness the power of miniature explosion to propel a hunk of metal through such things as skulls, hearts, windows, doors, walls and with the advances of modern tech, damn near anything you want them to shoot through. Knives are sharp metal. Capable of killing only at close range. Nowhere near equivalent.

Guns =/= pepper spray. Honestly this is common ******* sense, I don't know why I keep taking the bait.
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User avatar #18 to #8 - TheMather ONLINE (08/29/2015) [-]
Bit harder to kill someone with pepper spray than with a gun.
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#81 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** mfw someone carries lethally dangerous pepper spray
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#79 - totallynatedrake (08/30/2015) [-]
video related
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User avatar #117 - qwarthos (08/30/2015) [-]
just carry it anyway. I never understood these people who would rather be unprotected than risk having something confiscated
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#119 to #117 - anon (08/30/2015) [-]
because if you carry better protection you can get locked up in a small room by people who carry that same protection.
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#94 - kingderps ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-]
I hope your school also has those no guns allowed stickers, they stop would be mass shooters at the door.
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#93 - someoneforamoment (08/30/2015) [-]
You wouldn't dare use a culinary knife for self defense
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User avatar #110 to #93 - tolisk (08/30/2015) [-]
Sauce sounds interesting for that Gif. Please Gib if you happen to know what the anime is.
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User avatar #112 to #110 - iridium (08/30/2015) [-]
Anime is Mirai Nikki/Future Diary. It's good for the first maybe five, six episodes, and then just gets utterly retarded.
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User avatar #113 to #112 - tolisk (08/30/2015) [-]
Aright. Thanks for that sauce.
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#157 to #113 - someoneforamoment (08/31/2015) [-]
You were warned though.
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User avatar #26 - thelastamerican (08/29/2015) [-]
Ghost pepper extract
In a spray bottle
in my pocket
**** this mugger up
then stab him repeatedly with a fork or something
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User avatar #1 - corporate (08/29/2015) [-]
lol
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User avatar #3 to #1 - swigs [OP](08/29/2015) [-]
corporate plz
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User avatar #4 to #3 - corporate (08/29/2015) [-]
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User avatar #142 - lathyrusvii (08/30/2015) [-]
Nah man, that's a biological weapon, in some parts of space out there.

Squishy life be squishy, yo.
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