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PC is getting out of hand. Saw on Facebook. Apparently hugging family members needs verbal consent now. Since when has a grandma hugging a grandchild become som

Saw on Facebook. Apparently hugging family members needs verbal consent now. Since when has a grandma hugging a grandchild become some traumatizing thing we need to protect our children from?

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and .uhai Fem s will . .
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and aet. & child
hispter body belongs" .
His/ we CHOICE.
PERIOD.
Many of our US. friends are spending today
with family. Remember: your child' s body
belongs to her or him. if you force her to kiss
uncle bob, what message are you sending her?
That someone ELSE should tell her how her
body can be touched.
if you force him to hug Aunt Edna- what are you
telling him? That OTHER people know better
what to do with his -and someone else' s- body,
than the person whose body it is.

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#5 - anon (12/03/2015) [-]

You may laugh at this.
But you noodles don't know anything about child molesters. They often start with the kids in family.
It goes from "Give Uncle Bob a hug." in public. But when Uncle Bob is alone with your kid, Uncle Bob may tell them to kiss him. He may tell them to touch him. He may tell them much worse things. Since they don't know what the **** is going on, they will just sorta go with it, even though they do feel uncomfortable, they won't dare to tell Uncle Bob the **** off.

Children, especially the small ones, can't sense this form of danger. They don't know at which point they're allowed to resist Uncle Bob.

So tell them from the very beginning that it's their decision only who's allowed to hug/touch/kiss them. And that they should tell whenever somebody else does something they don't want, no matter what it is.

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#12 to #5 - praemium (12/03/2015) [-]

A legitimate fear sure, but it does sound like hysteria.

#30 to #12 - anon (12/04/2015) [-]

Well no. It happened to me, so, no.

Don't know about source here, but I thought that something like 90% of child molestiation happens within the family.

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#15 to #5 - xdiabolicx (12/04/2015) [-]

K but getting consent from a child so young that he/she can't tell if touching their relative is wrong sounds incredibly easy and therefore pointless. Children don't know any better and bringing any awareness like this does nothing to the molestation problem in families. Hell, most children won't even speak out if something does happen that they don't approve of.

#29 to #15 - anon (12/04/2015) [-]

Yeah, that's why you should tell them it's never okay if others touch them without them feeling okay with it. They shouldn't let others convince them.

It's about wording here.
"If others touch you, and you feel not okay with it, tell them to stop it and tell your parents. It is your right to do that." is a whole lot different from "Others are only allowed to touch you if you say it is okay."

The first one is the right one. Because yes, it is incredibly easy to get consent from a small child. But it is not possible at all to make them enjoy it or stop them from feeling uneasy.

But children can't differ between "Give your granny a kiss on the cheek, she will feel hurt otherwise" from their parents and "Lick Uncle Bobs dick, or I'll tell your parents you don't love me anymore." from Uncle Bob. They don't know what's okay and what's not, their only way for them to tell is if they feel like they don't want this. This post is about making it clear for the child that they should trust this sense and that parents shouldn't corrupt it.

#31 to #29 - xdiabolicx (12/04/2015) [-]

Sounds like trying to tell your child to watch out for themselves is going to do more harm than good. "You can kiss granny on the cheek but if Bob asks you to lick his dick don't do that". How do you explicitly tell a child "your family members might molest you"?

#32 to #31 - anon (12/04/2015) [-]

You don't need to. That's the great part about it.

It's easy to explain. You don't want it, you don't need to do it, that simple.

#9 to #5 - anon (12/03/2015) [-]

Teach them to like others, but no where does it say teach them which parts of their body nobody is to touch... And your logic is flawed because Uncle Bob can frighten the child either way...

Jesus, do you guys even have a family? I mean, don't force your child to do something they clearly don't want to but don't educate them in an asinine way. Then they grow up without any feelings and we wonder why they feel alone and hated.

#27 to #9 - anon (12/04/2015) [-]

Yes, I have family. I know how this works because it happened to me.

And yes, Uncle Bob can frighten them. But a pedophile, and even a child molester, isn't always a vicious beast searching to violently **** the **** out of child. Sometimes they fear getting caught or don't want to hurt the child or they just need the illusion of the child consenting, so they are able to tell themselves they are not doing anything wrong.
If the child starts to openly disagree, maybe scream, maybe pushing him away, then that illusion is broken. A good part of all the Uncle Bobs out there will stop at that point.

This is not about teaching them to like others. It has really nothing to do with it. I like a lot of people without feeling the need to touch them. This is about teaching small children that Uncle Bob doesn't have the right to "convince" them to touch him. Maybe he does it by promising you sweets, maybe he does it by saying "Why, don't you love me anymore?".

This just doesn't work if you were telling your kid to go kiss granny even though it didn't want to. The child isn't able to differ because it doesn't know about anything and it can't really tell what kind of kisses are okay and which are not. For a small child, almost every grown up has just as much authority as their parents, so why not kiss Uncle Bob if he tells me to?

The point is to tell a child that forced affection, no matter who wants to force it, is not okay. It is fine to tell others if you don't want to do something, and if they're not respecting that, tell your parents. It's their decision only who they want to kiss and hug. Why in the world would they grow up without any feelings knowing that?

#6 to #5 - rollfourexplain (12/03/2015) [-]

This really is important. A parent needs to encourage their child to show affection towards family while also being told in a completely different environment that it's unacceptable for someone to do XYandZ.

It's complicated for sure. The above picture is probably someone trolling (Poe's Law) but the real message should be about making sure the child knows when something is too far.

#28 to #6 - anon (12/04/2015) [-]

If your child is able to differ between that, sure. I have my own experiences. My mother told me and my brother to stay away from strangers. She told us to not take candy from anyone, she told us to tell if someone takes photos of you. She told us that we should not get near someones car if they're pulling up next to you. Even if they're just asking for directions, take a good three steps back.

Still got ****** by my 8 years older cousin, though. And it wasn't like an abduction or anything. It wasn't like he just physically forced me. My mother just sent me over to his room whenever we were visiting my aunt. It started with this weird form of kissing. I remember that I said no. He started "crying" and said things like "So you don't like me anymore?" whenever I did. It went further and further and further, and within two years or so he went from french kissing to ******* a little child.

I remembered when I was a grown up. I told my parents and they asked me why the heck I didn't say anything. The answer is that I just didn't know better.
I mean, sure, I felt really uncomfortable. I wanted it to stop. But hell, I have aspergers, so I really wanted a lot of hugs and kisses to stop, but this was ignored as well. So I sorta went with it. Plus, for a small child, every person older than you has a hell of a lot authority.

The same thing happened to a lot of victims of this kind of stuff.

The only thing I needed to do was scream. My mother was like, what, 10m away? But I didn't. Later, said cousin was blaming me because I didn't really resist. I think that maybe it was his only way to not feel like the ********* person on earth. Because he told himself that I sorta gave consent.

It wasn't a "completely different enviroment" like you said. It was the same family, the same household. All mothers tell their kids to stay away from strangers, but which mother tells their children to stay away from the chubby cousin she saw growing up? The cute little boy who's not so good with the ladies? She just thought we were playing or something while the grown-ups were talking in the kitchen.

It's almost impossible to tell a child what exactly "too far" is. At one second I should listen to Uncle Bob when he tells me to kiss his cheek, but in the next I should scream at him to stop? That's not an easy concept. When I told my parents, they were not able to believe that my cousin would do that, so how should child-me be able to get that what my cousin's doing is evil and I should stop it?

Do whatever the hell you want with your kid. But I'll tell you that you can't trust ******* anyone. You can't trust your father, your mother, sometimes you can't even ******* trust your husband/wife. And because you can't trust anyone, I will tell my child to ALWAYS tell if they're not comfortable with people touching/hugging/kissing them. No matter who it is, no matter what time, no matter what the other person says.

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#10 - flnonymousseven ONLINE (12/03/2015) [-]

I actually agree with this.

#8 - anon (12/03/2015) [-]

actually i agree. Some people find contact uncomfortable. parents forcing their wants on children is never good.

#11 - lwlarcopolio (12/03/2015) [-]

I actually agree with this. Just because someone is family, it doesn't mean a child likes them. Affection is ok, but not something that should be forced. It should be nurtured so the kid doesn't become a social retard, but yeah

#18 - sircool (12/04/2015) [-]

i'm disgusted by the people in the comments agreeing to this bull **** here.

this is quite literally demonizing simple affection between family members for the fear that some how, some way this gives the message of them for their adult lives, like any sane human being can't tell the ******* difference. This is nannying/babying to the ******* extreme, like calling to shut down a school cause some one drew a frowning face thus they're upset, thus might shoot up the school.

You compare this to child molestation, but this is no where near that ******* **** . "This christian bombed PP, BAN CHRISTAINS!" "This muslim killed people, BAN ISLAM" "This woman bumped into a guy on the subway, segregate the trains!"

Seriously, you chuckle ***** have a flurry of posts making fun of tumblr-tier pc bull **** , but when it's put in your face, you agree with it without a second thought.

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#23 to #18 - twiddlediddle (12/04/2015) [-]

No, to be honest people have to earn my respect and affectioñ. If the only time of year I see or hear from them is Xmas because it's Xmas then **** that. If they aren't going to make an effort then neither am I. As someone who grew up in a very large family an was forced to hug and kiss people I didn't know every year, I can agree with this content. Not on the grounds that a child needs consent but on the grounds that people need to earn respect and affection, not be entitled to it because of a distant or even close blood relation.

#24 to #23 - sircool (12/04/2015) [-]

my mothers side is extremely large and love getting together for any excuse majority of the time. Loved seeing them.

Father's side only gets together for christmass or funerals and is tiny. I love them to death.

If you're some edgy ass hole who just says **** family because reasons, you just tween edgy level of edgy.

Hell, seeing some one after so long should only make you happier to see them. My mother's family is extremely conflicted in their political ideals that I can totally see arguing in what with one group being the cliche upper-middle class blonde white family republicans, which is weird for new jersey, and the other side being new york liberal/socjust light. But they still get together and love each other because that's what families do. Least should do.

#25 to #24 - twiddlediddle (12/04/2015) [-]

I'm not saying it to be edgy. When your family alienates you for being the black sheep just for being born(my mother had an affair which split the family the she had 2 more kids with another man she's still with) it really makes you feel like the only people you can count on are the people who put the effort in to spend time with you or teach you something.

Family should act like family if they want to be treated like family.

#26 to #25 - sircool (12/04/2015) [-]

1. **** bro, sorry to hear that.
2. It's kinda **** if your mother's side of the family alienates you, but understandable from original husband's. Kinda **** cause, well she did sorta break a huge arrangement that, going off what is typically the norm of the situation of either A: Parents of both parties split the difference on a wedding or B: Kids only pay for it so i'm staying with A: of trusting her to be a good wife in return to a good husband and remain loyal to each other. Mean to forgive her, but hold it over her head rest of life. Husband's side should hate her guts, just saying.

#33 to #26 - twiddlediddle (12/04/2015) [-]

Thank you for understand my point of view. Her ex and her get along cordially for the sake of their children, they now live on opposite ends of the country. He likes me, bought me an original GT snow sled when they came out in the 90's lol He's a real good guy and love talking to him and his wife.

I'm glad that you had a functioning family, not many of my friends growing up had that (I probably just gravitated towards that crowd though) I now have a family of my own and aim to give them a relationship with their extended family that I never had.

Good talking to you bud!

#21 to #18 - plsremember (12/04/2015) [-]

I have to agree with you too. I think the reason 90% of funnyjunk is disagreeing with you is because they are legitimately autistic and don't want to be touched by others.

#19 to #18 - anon (12/04/2015) [-]

The people agreeing to this are doing so because they don't like being touched by their overly physical family members at family events, ie "Aunt bertha needs to clean her dentures and i need to go throw up". FYI this site is pretty much entirley anti-social teenagers/young adults. This is the same thing that happens when a feminist says "women should have the right to show their bodies just as much as men, they should be allowed to be topless in public!" and then a bunch of men say " ya I agree women should be allowed to be topless in public that's a good point. They agree with teh result not the ideology.

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#20 to #19 - sircool (12/04/2015) [-]

so they're the very things they constantly hate, the **** nuggets who nod away as the PC police hate human emotion in any shape or form.

#2 - thegreatmandalore (12/03/2015) [-]

To be honest, out of all the overly pc, feminist safe space transnoodlekin ******** of this day and age, i actually agree with this one. If a kid doesn't want to hug or kiss it's grandma, then it shouldn't have to ******* hug or kiss it's grandma.

#17 - ilovehitler (12/04/2015) [-]

And here I expected FJ to immediately be against this because it's being related to something PC.
This site surprises me every day.

#7 - anyonehavethis (12/03/2015) [-]

I agree completely. If the argument of "Oh but it's polite, be respectful to your elders" comes up, surley "Say hello to [insert family member] is sufficient. The kid then knows to be polite, but how they greet them is totally their choice.

"Oh ok, **** off uncle Bob"

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#1 - mintpeanutbutter (12/03/2015) [-]

Depends who your relatives are, I suppose.

#3 to #1 - lrojs [OP](12/03/2015) [-]

I mean obviously you should stop anything that could be deemed sexual, but getting up in arms about a basic hug during the holidays seems excessive and ridiculous.

#4 to #3 - mintpeanutbutter (12/03/2015) [-]

Yeah, I just like awkward situations.

#13 - vexeranhd (12/03/2015) [-]

Yeah, I actually think this is s good point.

#22 - twiddlediddle (12/04/2015) [-]

I ******* hated hugging family members I saw once a year. Who were they to me? What have they done for me or with me? No one could tell me.

It's all based on the "Family get what they want when they want and get away with anything they do because they're family" ******** . I have 4 half brothers and 2 half sisters and a couple more I haven't met. I'm a member of 2 of the largest native American families in Canada. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COUSINS UNCLES AND AUNTS THAT IS?! And very few of them bathed everyday.

I do belive family comes first but they have to treat you like family. They don't get a jail out of free card or instant affection card just because we're related.

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#16 - Denver (12/04/2015) [-]

This is actually something I really agree with. It was so awful seeing my little brother at his first family event being passed around constantly to be held and squeezed by all these strange people.