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The Roman Catholic Diocese of Carora (Latin: Caroren(sis)) is a diocese located in the city of Carora in the Ecclesiastical province of Barquisimeto in Venezuela. It was established from the Metropolitan Archdiocese of Barquisimeto on July 25, 1992.

In an online news story from the Catholic News Agency (CNA), posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012, it was stated,:

"Retired Bishop Eduardo Herrera Riera of Carora, Venezuela, who is suffering from terminal cancer, called on Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to repent of his “injustices” against the country.

“As a Head of State, you have the most gravest of obligations, first and foremost, to procure the peace and security of Venezuelans,” the bishop said in an open letter April 9. “Unfortunately, you have been very weak and negligent in confronting this most serious of problems.”

The controversial president has battled illness himself in recent years, traveling last month to Cuba in order to have a potentially cancerous tumor removed.

Bishop Herrera listed several ethical concerns as well as human rights complaints against the Venezuelan leader and urged him to repair damage caused if he wants to share in “eternal happiness in the Kingdom of our Lord and God.”..."[1]

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User avatar #2 - charagrin
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Yep. The one that pissed me off the most was the trans-womam(was genetically male) who sued her doctor for not acknowledging her as a female on medical forms. The kicker? SHE WON.

The doctor noted her as male because genetically speaking, SHE WAS MALE and thus needed to worry about genetic issues men are prone to such as prostate cancer, heart disease, and since she wanted to be female, even things like male pattern baldness. But she won, and now she is being treated medically as though she was male, and the doctor she sued is at best paying off a settlement and at worst no longer practicing due to having his license taken.

I hope she enjoys the prostate cancer her doctor misses because they aren't allowed to screen her for it.
User avatar #348 to #2 - hawaiianhappysauce
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In Massachusetts we had a similar thing with a prisoner. The prisoner wanted a sex change operation and threatened to kill himself if he didn't. The judge ruled that he should be given a sex change for his life's sake. The real kicker is that the lawyer for the trial and the operation are going to be paid by the taxpayer... Isn't that nice...
#360 to #2 - psykojet
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User avatar #549 to #2 - pwnigator
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It's not a male, nor is it a female, it's ****!
User avatar #10 to #2 - landartheconqueror
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i hate people...
User avatar #33 to #2 - manicekman
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Gonna need a source on that.
#144 to #33 - anon id: aee4cec3
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no seriously, because that whole story is a load of *********. that scenario as you described it would never happen, i hate when people make **** up like this and then make the law look like some backward archaic ********. that is not how the law works, this story is made up, and anyone with half a brain could figure that out.

to all of you that aren't familiar with the law and legal standards, let me explain something: rarely, if ever, do people get huge windfalls for doing nothing or for not having real and significant damage done to them. the law is designed to be reasonable and 99.9% of the time if you hear of something that sounds ridiculous then it is either completely made up or the person telling it is leaving out some significant facts that dramatically change the situation.
User avatar #153 to #144 - manicekman
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Indeed. The one thing college has thought me so far is definetly that I should never ever trust anything without a source. And that writing anything without a source is liek writing nothing.
User avatar #327 to #144 - tealcanaan
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dailycaller.com/2014/02/09/disgruntled-worker-who-is-not-a-female-or-a-male-sues-for-518682-over-pronouns/

Well there is this one , women?, who got mad because her coworkers would forget to call her they (even though that's awkward as **** to remember and say in a conversation) so she quit her? job. Now she is suing for lost wages and half a mil in "emotional damages". Also no one refers to you in pronouns when talking to you directly, so either ,she?, is listening in on others conversations or is making it up. Also she didn't even work their for long. She want'd special treatment and apparently the company failed to comply.
#346 to #327 - anon id: aee4cec3
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read the article carefully. the person has brought a suit for half a million dollars, but that in no way, shape, or form means that they will receive anywhere near that much. the way our legal system works is that nearly any claim, almost no matter how implausible, can be brought in a suit. it certainly doesn't mean they will win. this person will probably not survive a summary judgement motion. what they are doing is fishing for a settlement, hoping the owners will pay them slightly less then what the litigation costs would be.

but this illustrates my point perfectly. people read these stories thinking it means that the law entertains ridiculous claims like this when it really doesn't. it just gives the plaintiff what every citizen is entitled to: their day in court.
User avatar #350 to #346 - tealcanaan
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I know, I was just pointing out that these cases are not uncommon and frivolousness law suits still cost the system unnecessary money, but your right, she probably wont get ****.
#708 to #144 - anon id: 615cc630
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Yeah but the fact that this **** happens at ALL means that there's still too many idiots in this world. How many is too many, you ask? One.
User avatar #3 to #2 - ljxjlos
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*him
User avatar #5 to #3 - lotengo
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*it
User avatar #31 to #5 - deadmansdope
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*other
#16 to #5 - anon id: 36566a65
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Yes! They want a gender neutral pronoun? Well there IT is
#25 to #16 - anon id: b0018120
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Nope. The proper gender-neutral pronoun in the English language for a person of indeterminate gender is "one". as in, "One may be offended by your insensitivity toward one's gender."

"It" is reserved for non-human objects or lesser animals of indeterminate gender.
User avatar #314 to #25 - commontroll
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"It" refers to a specific person or object. "One" does not.
#664 to #314 - anon id: f154c69a
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Should one be glad we have no gender-neutral pronouns? I think it could have had some sour usage before today's current age.
User avatar #1 - fezzo
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By far the worst group imo are the white people that get "offended" because other people might get offended.
#6 to #1 - anon id: 15f69621
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Ahaha, yeah.
Once when I worked at a school I called a young girl "negro". I guess I asked her something like "you being a negro, do you get badly treated when whatever?" I live in Sweden so the word isn't loaded with Jim Crow baggage. The girl just answered my question, but an arab girl that overheard me FLIPPED HER ****. Girl one just told her "Relax. I am a negro."
#12 to #1 - anon id: 5c07eea6
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SJW that is all
#767 to #1 - anon id: 639594f2
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Leftists
#147 to #1 - dvdstvns
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Honestly I feel like that's a large chunk of fj's userbase
Honestly I feel like that's a large chunk of fj's userbase
User avatar #245 to #147 - hipickausername
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I don't think we really care about anyone else other than ourselves
#497 to #147 - aerosol
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>implying we don't make offensive jokes bcaue someone might get offended
User avatar #498 to #497 - aerosol
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*because
****
User avatar #310 to #1 - economic
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No, we just can't stand people bitching about how oppressed they are. Gets on your nerves when ******* complain about **** for 90 years +
User avatar #4 to #1 - ljxjlos
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You don´t even know this Horror until you´ve lived in Germany.
#29 to #4 - atomschlumpf
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One bad word - BAM Nazi
One bad word - BAM Nazi
User avatar #737 to #29 - fezzo
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Don't you just love it when they still hold something against you eventhough you had nothing to do with what your country did over 60 years ago
#552 to #29 - ljxjlos
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Exactly. Funniest thing was Mr Fischer in PE - do you remember? "What, you did score a point against the turkish team? - NAZI!"

also, enjoy, I found out that there is a combo picture out of my two favorites.
#777 to #552 - atomschlumpf
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No, I hardly remember that guy. ******* seriously??

also, **** you
User avatar #779 to #777 - ljxjlos
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Be happy - that guy was probably the worst human scum ever.

...but it´s so glorious!
User avatar #18 - youhei
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if you have a Y chromosome, you're a male. get the **** over it.
User avatar #30 to #18 - tmstyrant
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False, sex is determined by the SRY gene located on the Y chromosome. If it removed or has a defect you will be born and grow up a biologically normal female, if it is removed and put on the one of the two X chromosomes in a typical female genome then you will be born and grow up a biologically normal male. In both instances above you would experience some fertility issues but beyond that be fertile.

ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/SRY
#50 to #30 - sry
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#14 - whitenerdy
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You just insult them anyways.
What're they gonna do, Socially outcast you?

"but maaa, I can't play outside with all them transvestites."
#473 to #14 - anon id: 2f458ba0
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No, they are going to sue you.
User avatar #155 to #14 - fuckthepopo
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lawsuits
User avatar #179 to #155 - toosexyforyou
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You're a little bitch. Go ahead, faggot, sue me.
User avatar #244 to #179 - fuckthepopo
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You're talking to a black person.
You are so sued, cracka'.
#501 to #244 - aerosol
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Now I kinda wanna see this **** go down
User avatar #45 - hudis
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Picture yourself going through your entire life feeling like you were literally born with the wrong body and everything about you is just completely wrong, and there's almost nothing you can do about it because even with hormones and extensive surgery and therapy, you'll still live with that nagging feeling constantly with you. You might not have been so emotionally stable and thick-skinned either. Take a minute to try to properly imagine yourself in that situation.
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k
User avatar #324 to #45 - moldybreadcrumb
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At first i thought you were talking about being a certain race
#733 to #45 - sheepysquirrel
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I have always felt like I was actually a small child with elf ears in a mans body, but I'm not sensitive. I can't believe you'd even think I was sensitive!
User avatar #53 to #45 - nimbin
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Thank you.
User avatar #136 to #45 - duvallwhitey
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I'd probably see a psychiatrist.
User avatar #695 to #136 - hudis
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"even with hormones and extensive surgery and therapy, you'll still live with that nagging feeling constantly with you"
User avatar #821 to #695 - duvallwhitey
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Well **** thats too damn bad.
#49 to #45 - kanedam
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so what?
because you are ****** up someone else has to accept that you act like a jerk/bitch?
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#56 to #55 - kanedam
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i took the part of "easily offended" more into account...
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#60 to #57 - kanedam
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its not about how difficult it is.
and you are right. it is remarkably easy not to offend people.

i can get by with hetero, homo, liberal, communist, nazis, men, women, young, old, islamic fundamentalists, jewish zionists, believers, creationalists, scientists, musicians, artists... everyone.
the question is: do i really need to? and is it always the right choice to act in a way that doesnt offend someone?

i dont mean to hate on anyone, and i really dont care about the whole trans topic. as long as everyone has fun they can do whatever they want.
but idont see a reason why i should put "trans" on my database as gender in my company. or why someone should be offended just because i call them a male when they have male genitals.
its the same with blacks that hate their skin color, or whites that are ashamed of being white. why should people not be allowed to tell them what race they are, just because they dont accept it?
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#65 to #63 - kanedam
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i would rather say (i know this might sound cruel but its my honest opinion) if a fact about myself was my deepest and darkest shame then i should get some help, get over it or take a therapy.

i mean seriously... if it hurts me so much to be labeled a white man and I AM a white man, then its surely not the others job to make sure i dont feel bad about it but its my task to somehow get that topic settled.
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#73 to #67 - kanedam
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there are enough people that got called jews because they technically were but didnt feel affiliated with it.
there are enough people getting called capitalists eventhough they themself say they are communists.
there are enough people that get called nazis for the way they act and talk while not thinking of themself as nazis.

i fail to see your point.
and what they actually are needs to be defined.
i understand that you might say: you are whatever you feel inside... but there is a truth. no matter what you wish or longe for. a man is a man, a woman is a woman, a black is a black, a white is a white. thats it. its biology.
i dont mind anyone acting otherwise and such... but its a biological truth.
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#123 to #116 - kanedam
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yes you are right.
absolutely and i can say its 100% on point.

if you offended someone and you know the other person prefers (for example) to be called a woman you can easily do so.
i call people by what they want to be called. why should i care if something is dangling under the skirt? she wants to be called a lady, i call her a lady. period.

but screaming or cursing at someone just because he asks something like: "arent you a guy?" and then getting all furious is not right either.

thats just what i meant... (never meant, never in the whole thread to have no respect towards another person.)
#782 to #116 - phoenixactual
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Minimal convinience hell, If I or other trans women go into the mens restroom because assholes believe that's where we belong, we run the risk of getting raped. Really want to go there on that?
#74 to #65 - phoenixactual
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WHY THE **** DO YOU THINK SO MANY OF US ATTEMPT SUICIDE? Because we are raised to think that who we are is wrong, many of us don't see any other way out. Have you ever done a second of ******* research on this?
#80 to #74 - kanedam
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sorry... but you realise its not like the ******* only group that has suicidal people?!
#86 to #80 - phoenixactual
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I realize this, but it's one of the highest suicide groups out of the LGBT community these days, because it's not something you can just hide, and many of us just can't take the pain of being disowned by family when we're already getting hurt by misconceptions in the world
#91 to #86 - kanedam
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i understand its hard.
i dont mean to tell you "its nothing, stop whining". i understand it must be hard for you.

but i just mean bitching at innocent people is still not alright.

also it might be highest suicide rate in lgbt... but that doesnt mean its the highest of the whole population.
#95 to #91 - phoenixactual
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Nothing innocent about trying to make anybody seem less legitimate than anybody else. It's not right
#99 to #95 - kanedam
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so my comment that states "because you are ****** up (as already explained, in a sense that you bitch at innocent people just because others treated you bad) someone else has to accept that you act like a jerk/bitch?" was me making you less legimtimate than someone else?!
#103 to #99 - phoenixactual
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You called trans people were ****** up, for being trans. That in itself is dehumanizing, because you are putting personal bias before medically documented fact
#105 to #103 - kanedam
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i didnt say they are ****** up for being trans.
i said they are ****** up if they act like assholes just because they had issues
#111 to #105 - phoenixactual
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Saying we have "issues" is trying to say that it's just a mental thing, that we're wrong. Do you think you know who we are better than we do?
#112 to #111 - kanedam
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you really dont realise you live up the perfect stereotype of said people right now?

i meant having issues because people acted badly towards them! (as explained in other comments already to you!).
of course someone has issues if they get treated like ****, kicked out of family, ridiculed or what do i know.
but all of that still doesnt give any person the right to treat an innocent people badly.
#114 to #112 - phoenixactual
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Want to talk about issues in that case? I'd gladly debate that as well. Many of us have PTSD from years of abuse and harassment. All because people don't understand it, and can't have the decency to try. We get bullied so much in our lives, how can we be blamed when we stand up for ourselves?
#118 to #114 - kanedam
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i hope you dont mean its alright for people that got bullied to start bullying innocent people too?
i sure hope you meant to defend against the one bullying.

because (i'm slowly losing patience): AS I SAID! Acting like an ass to innocent people just because others bullied you is still not alright!
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"stand up for yourselves" lol
youre acting like a retard to a person who arent properly informed.
its people like you who give trans people a bad name to begin with.
#145 to #112 - phoenixactual
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Knowing trans people and being understanding of trans people to the point where you can understand that misgendering us is a major insult to who we are as human beings are 2 totally different things
#150 to #145 - kanedam
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you are starting to get annoying... sorry.
i know enough trans that are normal. maybe it seems strange because of the net and me not hearing your voice and such, but you just seem too whiny to me. i dont know your story and all but still...

that a person takes something as an insult doesnt mean it is one. thats all i can say to that. that you take it as an insult if i say "he's a man, but he feels like a woman..." doesnt mean i insulted you.
#137 to #112 - phoenixactual
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Difference between this^ and bullying: Bullying is an attempt to harass someone to make them feel bad about themselves, because of their own insecurities. This is an attempt to educate someone who, until today, likely had no understanding of what trans people really are (hint.. It's humans. It's always humans)
#141 to #137 - kanedam
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and again you are the one taking assumptions about me while i havent done that a single time about you.
btw: you also ignored that i have contact and know trans people...
#120 to #112 - phoenixactual
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Because this isn't bullying, this is an attempt to get some kind of understanding. Don't try to call yourself innocent, by the way, You opened yourself up to this
#128 to #120 - kanedam
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isnt that basically the argument all bullies use? "its your own fault" ?


but yes, you are right. you are not bullying me, we are discussing things.
but you stepped over the border of politeness a few times already. and also you consequently ignored the parts in wich i explained i treat trans equally, i dont mind them, i dont care about what a person wants to be and i understand its hard for them. ignoring all these parts and taking every comment the worst possible way possible was just fitting the stereotype stated above...
User avatar #668 to #120 - sursum
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So hold on. You will get offended when someone identifies you as a male even though they aren't attempting to insult you, it was just the use of the word "he" or "him" or something? Surely all you need to do is ask that the person refers to you as "her" or whatever and understand that the person wasn't misidentifying you out of malice but because its completely normal for him to do as he did.
#72 to #60 - phoenixactual
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It's about having some basic human decency, you sorry piece of ****. Have you never learned anything about having even a sliver of an open mind? You have no ******* clue what trans life is like, so don't pretend to be a ******* expert on it
#78 to #72 - kanedam
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you sure dont give a good example with your behaviour right now...

and what does decency have to do with it?
i'm not saying treat them liek **** or anything. as i said, everyone can do whatever they want.
but i dont see any reason to file in "white" in ethnicity if the person is black and tells me "yeah, but i feel that i am white!". sorry.
do whatever you want, i dont mind. but dont bitch around like that because someone like me (who hasnt done anything against you or has denied you the right to do whatever you want) says i got a database to have in my company and i need the gender. biological gender, not what you feel.
#83 to #78 - phoenixactual
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You're using arguments that have never happened in the history of humanity, except by people who were raised to believe that having a different color was shameful. That's not remotely like what being trans is. You're basically using the "I feel like a dog, so I'm a dog" argument, which has never, in history, been documented
#85 to #83 - kanedam
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now lsiten to me:

i KNOW people that are like this. a know a racist black "white-power" guy that has scarred a lot of his skin because he is ashamed he is black.
i know a half turkish half german guy who decapitated his turkish dad because he wanted to prove to the other guys he was a nazi and hates foreigners.
i know people that are ashamed of being white and even lie about having some skin disease.

so dont just go out and act all like "this has NEVER IN HISTORY happened." seriously...
#89 to #85 - phoenixactual
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1: Ashamed he's black. Why? Because of ******** like white supremacy. That's not the same as knowing deep down, at the pit of your soul, that you're white. Again, no historical documentation.

2: Nazi. Why? Because he thinks it's cool, and wants to fit in, so they don't target him. Not the same.

3: Ashamed of being white. See #1
#94 to #89 - kanedam
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so what, you are going to deny these people that they know what they are deep down?

isnt that exactly what people do to your group?
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Because there is no medical documentation. At all. Trans has thousands of medical papers. millions of hours of combined research. thousands of years of documented history in most of the known civilizations.
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still: what does it have to do with biological status?!


even if you are trans and feel like a man: you have the organs to get pregnant and its possible you get pregnant. so the insurance for your pregnancy-safety (the money you get if you get pregnant) has to be paid
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do you have a mental condition or something?
youre denying your own ******* arguments by now.
how do you know youre a woman?
what makes you any ******* different from his examples? they knew they were white, they knew they were nazi deep down.
if you start spouting some vague ******* medical **** youre just digging your own grave cause if that was the case you are technically a male thanks to your Y chromosome
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Nazi is a political party, not a mental condition, genius. You learn to be a nazi, it's not an ingrained ******* mentality. You have to be taught that ****. Nobody ever taught me I wasn't male.
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>implying everything you consider male isnt simply taught to you by society
>implying you would put this much weight in wether you wanna have a dick or not if you werent just aiming for social acceptance
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualism
www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html
www.apa.org/monitor/2013/04/transgender.aspx
studentaffairs.iub.edu/glbt/library/library-resources/academic-research/transgender-research/
A little light reading for you. 2 of these are legitimate scientific journals, the other is a research resource. Say what you want about Wikipedia, but the page wasn't written by trans people
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so youre trying to tell me, that you can feel theres something different with your brain. and that this little different feeling constantly urges you to change sex, this little brain abnormality knows that you feel strange about having something between your legs and thus must change this and dress in skirts
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Don't try to say it's ********, the science backs me up on this. Or did you just not read any of that? Either way, don't try to force stereotypes out of this, It's not about the clothes, it's about knowing who you are, and feeling comfortable as yourself, instead of living a lie, and being miserable for the rest of your ******* life. How is that remotely harmful to the world? It doesn't affect you, so why do you care? By medical science, I am a woman. the documentation proves it. I may not be genetically female, but who gives a ****? It's not like I'm going out into public, whipping my dick out in everybody's faces. I'm just trying to live a decent, semi normal life. Why can't you just accept that and let it go?
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but thats the ******* point, youre not a woman, you are what you think a woman is, and thats why i think its pointless. a woman really is nothing different, and thus you wouldnt need to change yourself to fit it, you just want to be what you and society considers a woman to be
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im saying it makes no difference if youre male or female.
all those things you do is just you wanting to conform the the gender roles.
it doesnt matter what gender you are, just be the person, stop trying to be something youre not cause you feel the grass is greener on the other side
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And again, this isn't about social acceptance. I gave up social acceptance from a vast majority the moment I decided to live to make myself happy
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Again, you can't understand it fully, because it's not something you've lived by. I don't live by stereotypes. I am a woman. I play video games, ride motorcycles, and can qualify expert in rifle marksmanship by military standards, with most semi auto weapons. I wear what I want, not what society expects me to wear. Seem to fit in with what you're trying to say? Cause what you're talking about is not changing things that I am miserable without changing
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again, youre putting to much weight into gender, it means nothing. dont see yourself as a woman or a man, see yourself as a person
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I see myself as I see myself. To deny myself the opportunity to live as the gender that I know at the core of my being I am causes me great distress. It's not a personal choice, I can't help it. It's easy for you to say something like that, you've never had to live the life a trans person lives. What you're talking about is gender noncomforming, which is totally different
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i never implied it was harmful, you on the other hand have constantly asked to be treated specially and implied you have the right to act like a dick if someone doesnt get your exact word of preference right.
youre putting to much weight in to your gender, it doesnt really mean anything about you, youre a person, do what you want but changing your gender doesnt change you or anything really
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I'm not changing my gender, though, that's the thing. Gender is who you are as a person. Sex is who you are genetically. Genetically, I will always be male, true, but gender wise, I was never male. As a person, I am a woman, so I change my appearance as such to feel more comfortable with life. Do you realize how many trans women kill themselves when they are denied the opportunity to do so? It's a very depressing life when you can't just be yourself. If you wanted some kind of decent answer about this, all you have to do is ask, but do so without misgendering, or sounding like a bit of a dick, that's generally what sets people off.
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Do you live in the US? Because by law, you can't tell trans people to **** off if they want to work as the gender they identify as anymore
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sorry if you misunderstood.
its not about telling them to **** off. and the worker can come as a guy/woman... doesnt really matter to the job anyway.
but we got to file the person to the state-insurance and need to label them as male or females. (different amount of money needed to pay and other laws applying)
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Different country, different law. Most of the civilized world is progressive enough to recognize literally thousands of pages of well documented medical research on the subject. They even have a cause possibly pinned down from before birth
#97 to #93 - kanedam
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so what?
what did that argument have to do with the biological status of the body?!
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Biological status of the body has a whole new meaning when there are a multitude of different recognized chromosonal patterns outside of the traditional XX/XY. Also, biological status doesn't impact who you are at the core of your being.
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and it does impact you in the core of your being what gender is signed in a database or your passport?
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Don't have a passport, but in the US, I can get every single document I have ever been issued since birth to recognize me as a woman. Including birth certificate, licenses, Social Security cards, passports, and everything else.
#110 to #107 - kanedam
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so what?
the usa isnt really the best thing as a rolemodel anyway...
#113 to #110 - phoenixactual
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Ok, England, then. Trans people can serve openly in the military, have all documents changed accordingly, and have state funded corrective surgery. Want more? How about Israel? Corrected ID, open service. Russia? corrected ID. Only trouble is the stupid anti LGBT propaganda law. Most of civilized Europe? See England, and Israel
#115 to #113 - kanedam
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you do know that the legal age gets changed but there still is a database with the old, biological gender? its just not accessible to public.
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No, there isn't. What does age have to do with any of this? Legally, I am a woman. By all laws of the US, my documentation is changed to female. By law, and by Identity, I am a woman. It's that simple
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you realise that i just said there is such a database. then you said "No there isnt". then i show you there is one. (taking the uk example you gave). and your reply is "yes there is one, but its a bad example".

seriously. are you just trying to be against what i say or are you reflecting on your replies?
#139 to #134 - phoenixactual
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I keep referring to the US, you keep referring to European countries. How the hell is anybody supposed to follow this argument?
#125 to #119 - kanedam
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Certain authorised agencies, with court permission, may have access to the Gender Recognition Register showing the links between these certificates, but the link will be invisible to the general public. This is the same way that birth certificates drawn from the Adoption Register work.
#132 to #125 - phoenixactual
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In the UK, not the US. Also, that's a deep underlying registry that has no public viewing option whatsoever, and is of no consequence to any civilian whatsoever. For government use only, in a situation where it will likely never be accessed, except for in criminal cases, is not a good example
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Ya, but your cock (or hole where it used to be) makes you a man to me, you can do what you want, but don't go around trying to trick normal people that your anything but a dude playing dress up. If what ever guy that wants to **** you does tell him that you are infertal and used to be a dude beforehand. Because if i had that happen to me I would be traumatized and questioning whats is real in this world. And if your into women but are trans-queer (whatever the **** that is) you are just being redundant, don't you think?
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Seeing as you blocked me, i'll reply to myself. Cool, have fun being the redundant, self-indulgent, special snowflake that you are. I really don't care that you have "lesbian" sex with your "feminine" dick, in fact most people don't. People just don't like it when you go around acting like its the most normal thing in the ******* world, it's not, it is actually pretty ******* strange, just keep your cross dressing fetish to yourself while you **** your girlfriend.
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That's a personal opinion, not scientific fact. Besides, I don't flash it around, it stays tucked completely between my legs pretty much 24 hours a day, unless I'm in the bathroom, behind closed doors, or in my own bedroom. And don't assume I **** guys, just because I'm trans, the idea of sex with a man just plain repulses me, these days. Lucky for me, decent women, at least lesbian women, can usually recognize me for who I really am, so your personal views about me aren't really of any consequence to me. Also, considering I have a partner now, and she is perfectly happy to accept me for whom I really am, I don't think I much care about anybody's opinion about me anymore. I don't do this for you assholes, I do it because it's the only way I can feel comfortable as myself
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oh, and no. not usa
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Where? Middle east? Europe?
#96 to #90 - kanedam
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europe, austria.
User avatar #698 to #49 - hudis
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No one said anything about acting like a jerk/bitch. My post was a response to the criticism that trans people are among the most thin-skinned and easily offended people out there.

However, to be honest, judging from the comments on this post (and the fact that I'm getting downthumbed to hell for the mere suggestion that one might try to empathise before making sweeping statements) I can't really hold it against trans people being cynical and bitter and occasionally jerky/bitchy. I'm not saying it's okay to act however you please just because you've suffered a lot in your life; only that sometimes, people aren't in full control of whether they are being assholes or not.
#790 to #698 - kanedam
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thats true.
of course people should try to be nice and polite to each other.
its a simple thing... try to act in a way you dont act like a jerk/bitch. that simply applies to everyone.
lets be honest: why should anyone care if someone feels like a man,w oman, dresses as the opposite and so on... let people do whatever they want. simple as that.
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We're only like that because ****** people like you think we're ****** up in the head. That kind of thinking is the main cause of violence around trans people, and yet we have no right to get pissed or offended when people are total dicks to us?
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i know tran people that are normal.

i talk about the bitches and the jerks... sorry, but no matter who or what you are: you can be an asshole! period.

and i surely wont excuse someones rude behaviour just because they have "issues". a lot of people have issues and go on without acting like assholes. (yes, even trans!)
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What kind of issues? Cause the only thing I ever see anybody complaining about on here is when people try to dehumanize us, of course we're going to get pissed
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again:
so what?
that someone offended you yesterday allows you to be a jerk to someone completely different today?

and just for you to reflect on: i didnt dehumanise you, and you still got pissed.
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sorry, but youve pretty much proved that you are ****** in the head through all your comments here.
that has nothing to do with your trans gender, youre just ****** in the head, youre a ******* idiot who constantly disproves your own points by acting like the people you apparantly despise
#780 to #759 - phoenixactual
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Go ahead and take a good long look at what people have been saying when I tried being polite. Still got **** all over for it.
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youre not polite and you act like people owe it to you to treat you specially.
#323 - Hawke
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Remember. Facts aren't real if they hurt your feelings.

Create your own ******** sexual identity, and anyone who calls you out on it is evil.
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User avatar #351 to #61 - skubasteve
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And neither is their acceptance that I base my vocabulary off of sound biological science. XY = Him XX = Her.
User avatar #500 to #351 - threeeighteen
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In the 21st century science is a social construct invented by white, heterosexual, cis men who want to oppress seemingly everybody. Czech your privileges.
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Then what exactly are the terms defining?
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Because they are already synonyms?
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Not according to websters. Gender is a state of being male or female. Sex is a term referencing being male or female.
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Because their is no black or white area. You are either male or female defined by your own DNA. What is the point of having a language if their is no real meaning to the definition of a word? Does it suck that they get upset by it? Yes. Is it warranted to change a words definition just to appease a very very small percentage of this worlds population? If we invented a gender neutral pronoun would you deny the fact that many of the trans community would be offended by it because they would be the ones it was designed to define, more than likely becoming a slur.
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It's getting to the point where you shouldn't even talk to people, in fear of hurting the little darlings feelings.
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It's ******* moronic though, society is getting too politically correct. Also, I consider myself part of the fifth gender, you should refer to me as a howomale or else you're a howomalphobe. Check your privileges.
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So if I'm born male and suddenly want people to address me as female then they have too? If they don't can I cry about muh oppreshuns?
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They don't HAVE to, but courtesy is widely accepted.
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User avatar #707 to #61 - reginleif
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Nope, I'm not obligated to change my speech just because it hurts your feelings, in the same way you're not obligated to change yours to spare mine.

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I myself almost exclusively use the gender neutral word they for people I don't know the gender (identity) of (except here where I default to he because this place is mostly male), but I still think the people who demand other people do so are complete dicks. Vocabulary is part of your identity, no one should have to change theirs to accommodate for anyone else's.
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Maybe think about what you just typed. Using the same rationale one could say its alright for bigots to use "******" as derogatory because its "part of their identity" as being bigots or ignorant. I don't think your argument here holds any merit. I would agree with sixroller's point here, well said.
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A derogatory term is still a derogatory term. Neither the words he or she are derogatory, so to have people cease to use them by default just because some people are inconvenienced by it is just meaningless self-entitled **********.
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Except it's not.
The use of they in singular is exclusively formal. It does not exist in informal speech so it goes beyond courtecy and prudence, which are about adjusting your behavior within the constraints of what can still be called your own behavior.

And a lot of people do demand it. Just look at those self-proclaimed social justice wariors who go about spouting **** as if they were entitled to have the entire world do their bidding.
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The words he and she do not hurt anyone. How is it any different from a female-to-male trans person to be called a she than it is every time some kid has referred to me as female because of my long hair?
It's not an insult and there's no ill intent behind it, so we just have to suck it up and correct them.

Besides, to make language itself unneccessarely prudent would bring only harm. It renders the prudence meaningless, reduces freedom of expression and interrupts the natural evolution of language.
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User avatar #302 to #61 - princessren
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I just watched that movie the other night
loved Merlin
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I understand perfectly fine that you can't change your sex, and I laugh at people who think they can change it.
User avatar #485 to #447 - anahbell
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Well, actually, you can. I mean yeah your insides will stay as they are.. but really sometimes it's not about changing everything.. it's just about changing what you can so that you feel happy with yourself. Laughing at people isn't the best way to go about it though, don't you think? I mean.. they're already dealing with alot.. why put them through more?
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You're born a sex, male or female, there is no changing this, it has already happened.
User avatar #515 to #510 - anahbell
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Not necessarily, nothing is set in stone.. and hell man.. sometimes whatever put on this world gets **** wrong. Got me wrong, made me a chick. My mind disagrees and I'm transitioning to being a dude. It's me, man. Nothing else but that. No matter what I've got in my pants, I am who I am.. I am a guy and my name is Jake. It's as simple as that.
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Okay Jake, I can see your point in you, on some mental and/or spiritual level, try seeing this from another perspective, a pharmacist perspective as an example.

Your chromosomes are basically zip files, containing millions upon millions bit worth of data in nucleic acids, that creates thousands upon thousands of proteins, peptides etc. These are basically the stuff, all these things are what builds your body up, and makes sure the right signals comes to the right parts of the bodies. This is a very very complex system, also with **** loads of specific data. What pills do, is they can go in and produce, or remove specific signals. So that they either stop, or work as a catalyst in specific processes. Even though the process in the body are mostly identical, No bodies are precisely identical on the quantity, this is why there are many medications with sometimes hazardous side effects, so pharmacists must make them as safe as they can, with the absolute minimum intake, so that everyone can take them without immediate death.

Now, I know this sounds harsh, but no matter what kind of gender you prefer, or feel like you are. Your body will not, and do not give a single **** about what you think of yourself, what kind of Hindu-Buddhist ******** you have been reading, not even about your sexual preferences unless it regards a hard on, or morning moist on your front lawn. Your body is, in the real world, biologically, what you always were, and always will be. No engineered magic meat pipe is gonna change that.

Life sucks, and then you die.

But hey, good news is if you wanna talk, act, and **** bitches. You can do that dude!
Just don't call yourself Jake, Tyler is a better name.
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I will do whatever it takes to be happy, I don't care if I die in the process.. I want to be free. Either freedom from my cage or freedom from this world, I'm gone. I've waited years and years for the moment that I get in 3 days from now, I'll be 18 finally and I'm going to take control of my life.. whether it means killing myself in the process or not.
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Actually, I was just using the pharmacist perspective to drag you into the perspective of you own biological being. I doubt you will die in the future unless you take very heavy drugs. The fascinating thing is that you make your own cage, what you perceive as wither it is man, woman, both or nothing is just your own 'software' going haywire with false information. I think Fightclub (1999) said it best.

You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your ******* khakis. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake, you the same decaying organic matter as everything else.

Having a penis or not, in your situation, since you can't procreate, is where you're peeing from. You make it matter with ********** spiritualism and magic faerie-tale friends that hugs you tight in your little wasted, and limited imagination. You're a waste product, perfectly healthy hardware with garbage software.

In a way, I feel sorry for you. Who knows, maybe if you had your head out of your ass you could have done something with your life, found a cure to HIV, AIDS or cancer. Saved millions of lives. But no, using all your energy on the deception wither or not its important to have a penis or not matter took too much energy, the only thing I can hope is that you will continue to live deep inside this deception, and try to contribute SOMETHING to society before you kick the bucket, because somewhere you know that you're just placing blame on your body, ignoring the real problem.

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I still may do something spectacular in my life.. you see, even you said it yourself. I'm not my job, money, car.. or anything like that. No matter what I do to my body I still may change the world one day.
User avatar #518 to #515 - lordmoldywart
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Call yourself Jake, call yourself a male, whatever. You're still a female. I just hope you're paying for the surgery yourself, which if you're American, you probably are.
User avatar #521 to #518 - anahbell
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I'm really not though, whats in my pants doesn't define whats in my heart. Yeah that sounded gay as ****, I know And yes, I am paying for my own surgery. I work hard and get paid well and soon it'll pay off when I'm able to get it done and I'm set free from my cage, basically. I'm really excited, I can't wait to be happy.
User avatar #765 to #521 - admiralen
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not to be a dick, but getting one wont change that much about you, you shouldnt expect it to.
User avatar #808 to #765 - anahbell
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It actually will though.
User avatar #810 to #808 - admiralen
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how would you know, you havent done it. and even then all that changes is whats between your legs
User avatar #814 to #810 - anahbell
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Actually, I'm not even looking to change that. All I want it to take testosterone and get my boobs chopped off, that's it. I'm a pretty nonsexual person so changing whats in my pants won't matter if I'm not even taking them off.
User avatar #816 to #814 - admiralen
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thats precisely why im not so sure things will change much
User avatar #817 to #816 - anahbell
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The little changes are what I need most. I want to be able to take my shirt off at the beach, or hear a lower voice come from me when I talk. That's the stuff that makes all the difference to me.
User avatar #818 to #817 - admiralen
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good luck then
User avatar #819 to #818 - anahbell
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Thank you.
User avatar #523 to #521 - lordmoldywart
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Ok as long as you're paying for it. Here in the UK they get it for free, which is wrong on all levels seeing as it's purely cosmetic.
User avatar #531 to #523 - anahbell
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I wouldn't mind getting it for free, how is it wrong for being cosmetic?
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User avatar #539 to #535 - anahbell
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I'd say that gender dysphoria does affect health, but only in severe cases. It's affected mine, that's for sure.
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User avatar #543 to #541 - anahbell
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..Is that a bad thing?
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User avatar #569 to #531 - lordmoldywart
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Because the general public's taxes shouldn't be going towards cosmetic surgery
User avatar #571 to #569 - anahbell
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Hmmm. I suppose you're right, but I see it as that.. if it affects ones health negatively.. it should be free, some people don't have the money for it and they're deteriorating inside slowly so that would help them out of a bad situation.
User avatar #573 to #571 - lordmoldywart
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Why would someone be deteriorating inside because of their gender alignment?

Is it really that depressing not having a penis? (or vice versa)
User avatar #585 to #573 - anahbell
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Surprisingly, yes.. I wouldn't expect someone who isn't trans to understand it themselves, but I'll try to explain it the best I can.

It's like, it's a constant reminder whenever you look down.. that you'll never be happy, never be comfortable, and never be able to have a relationship with someone and be satisfied. It's a grim reminder that you'll never be happy basically until you do something about it, and WHY it had to be 'gender' I don't even know.. but it's like depression of it's own category. You know that getting surgery won't fix it all, it never will.. just like you said. You'll always BE the gender you were assigned at birth but surgery is the closest we'll ever get and I'm sure as hell going to take it. I can't live like this, it's killing me. People actually do commit suicide because of things like this, and it just.. it sucks man.
User avatar #768 to #585 - admiralen
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im really sorry man, but youre projecting all your issues onto this one thing, gender isnt important. this is a thing a lot of people do, like feminists who think that everything that goes wrong in their life is because people look down on women, or fat people who think all their problems come from being fat. im not saying dont change, but dont expect to much, you will be let down
User avatar #809 to #768 - anahbell
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You don't understand it though, you're not in my place.. it's VERY important, to me at least and I'm absolutely done explaining it to people because theres no way that they'll ever understand how much I need this.
User avatar #811 to #809 - admiralen
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you might think you do, but you dont know if things will really change when you do
User avatar #812 to #811 - anahbell
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Of course not, no one knows for sure what the future will hold or if what they do will change anything for sure.. but I know that it's only up from here.
User avatar #813 to #812 - admiralen
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i really hope it works out for you, but im just saying dont expect to much
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I understand, and thank you.
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#791 to #515 - whitenerdy
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... Chromesomes
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User avatar #453 to #452 - lordmoldywart
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I was bringing forward my own point, not necessarily reacting to your's
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You as in 3rd person, not 2nd person. I was reacting to your image anyway, and was offering a new point
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Are you going to address my point or....?
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User avatar #507 to #483 - lordmoldywart
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Sex change was the focus in my point though. I mock those who think they can change their sex, which as you say, can not be changed.
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User avatar #516 to #513 - lordmoldywart
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They can glue whatever body parts they want onto their body, as long as they pay for the surgery. The problem is, people in the UK get sex changes for free, which I wholeheartedly disagree with, as it is purely cosmetic
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User avatar #575 to #524 - lordmoldywart
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I disagree that it's a serious health issue. It's a lifestyle choice. You could argue that women who want boob jobs should get them for free because their low self esteem (from not having the boobs they want) could be negatively impacting their health.
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I really hope that everything you've said on this thread is at least slightly sarcastic, because in this day and age, not even being able to slightly realize the importance to trans* people to get surgery to change primary and secondary organs, shows not only an upbringing of non-understanding, but also self intolerance to figuring out someone else's views. It's actually really, REALLY sad to see someone fight so valiantly to say "it really doesn't matter at all in the slightest." When it has been proven that people that go through the surgery actually have a lot better time than before. A lot of people that wouldn't be, get turned away because the Psychologists and what not they see can tell that it won't do anything for them.
tl;dr: omg chek ur prvlige
User avatar #836 to #835 - lordmoldywart
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Many people regret their decision also. Everything you just said could be applied to those wanting cosmetic surgery, and it should never be paid for with public money, I find it sad that you think people should pay for someone else's cosmetic surgery.
User avatar #312 to #61 - pokemonstheshiz
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i call even obvious chicks "dude" sometimes. Words should not offend you, only the intent should offend you.
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if you don't know them, you shouldn't be expected to change for them. If you're friends with them, you should be courteous to their feelings but at the same time they shouldn't expect you to change for them.
User avatar #54 - staticwolf
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Complains about gender labels existing.
Creates new gender labels to explain themselves.
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I know right? That massive preoccupation with labels and pronouns and wanting to convert the entire world to a context of thinking where they try to do everything with the biggest kid gloves imagineable. I get that it would be frustrating to be called he when you gender identify as female, but get over yourself.
User avatar #527 to #7 - imnotkickthecat
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I guess Brolette is kinda sexy...
User avatar #8 - SammieSama
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I completely agree =I I'm trans myself, but I hate a lot of trans people.

Personally, I don't ******* care. I'm just doing what makes me happy. Some people don't agree that I will ever be male, regardless of what I do to my body. That's fine, to each their own. Whatever. But the people who bitch and whine because they don't get 100% acceptance kill me. They make us look bad.

I want to be accepted, yes, but I know everyone's different. And I accept that, along with the fact that not everyone thinks like me.

My motto: You can't please everyone. So start with yourself and try not to hurt anyone along the way.

/end rant.