The point of terrorism is so that we get scared of them and succumb to their ways and ideologies.
Supporting France at this level proves that all of their efforts were meaningless.
I don't think their radical ways give a **** , It's kill or be killed for "the glory of Allah"
If their ******* prophet wasn't such a beta male, he could've been more forceful with the whole, "Don't idolize me to the point of attacking people who talk about me." Instead of writing it or saying it in such a vague manner that could be mistranslated....
That tends to happen with centuries old books written in old languages. Though I don't see the Quran as a cause, rather a tool for people to '''educate''' and coerce people to gain power in their ****** lawless kebab villages.
If anything, it's just supporting them by giving them more attention. It'd probably hurt them more if we were to just bury it and nobody knew what happened.
I'm sure you've seen the video about mass shootings, if you were to say that to me about that I would completely agree. Bury it to prevent copy cats.
I hope that the funerals and the weeping are not televised, as that is what fuels the terrorists.
People standing together arms tied strong just shows their efforts are futile. And they just might decide to question their own ethics if dying was actually worth it.
some people really do care though, one of my favuorite bands is eagles of death metal so i changed my cover photo to them with the french flag filter on it because i truly do care but yeah dont really know why im saying this
Go behead a Muslim and send it in the mail to the families of those who lost people in the attacks. It will let them know that something is being done.
Agreed. It was one thing to do the filter thing for gay marriage, a political movement that's all about garnering support to pressure those in charge.
It's quite another to do it when a bunch of people have died in a tragic event. Their families don't want a bunch of people with no idea what happened to put some silly filter on their facebook picture. They want justice for their loved ones, support for those grieving, and protection/prevention to keep such an event from happening again.
It is times like these where I remember Matthew 6;
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
"Take heed that ye do not your alms before men to be seen of men"? It means don't try to impress men by giving charity to the poor. It's something you should do from the humility of your heart rather than doing it only to make others think you're a good/giving person.
Well no, I was talking about number 8, the one he specifically mentioned. However, I was under the impression that "alms" meant "arms", like weapons. What does is mean?
Oh, well it's saying don't be like the people who pray using a bunch of words, repetitively and in vain, hoping to be heard by people that will be impressed by how devout they seem. Basically, pray humbly and in secret, because God already knows what you want before you even ask Him.
Also, alms means money/food that you give to the poor. Basically charity.
I do concur, and I agree that we should not support Paris to show off ourselves, but I do say that it is much easier to deal with tragedy when you know you are supported.
So let us not create a false dichotomy and say not to support Paris at all, but to do so humbly and with the intent to show them that we are all one people and that their pain and suffering will not go silently into the night, but will light the fires of passion in millions of souls as we unite as one world.
I do not suspect that everyone will suddenly join in this purpose, but that is truly what tragedies like this should do, bring us closer together. Too often we support to show that we are good, rather than for the good of those we support, but it is not always the case, and I believe we should not judge for we are not here to judge, but to love and care for our fellow man.
I'm no pure man, nor are any of us. But we all share in the same life and we should act as such.
I especially like the last three lines. When or if you pray, you shouldn't do say because you desire something. God, Allah, YHWH, Ik-Onkar, or whatever deity you believe in, they do not exist or interfere in human lives for the sake of giving you a new X-box or whatever. If you pray or meditate, you should be emptying your mind and thinking of your god, leaving nothing in your thoughts but the world and humanity.
FAGGOT ALERT WEE OOO WEE OOO
you're a ******* cocksucking loser for using that stupid grey text
also, you can take your religious ******** somehwhere else you ******* idiot, you think just copy pasting that **** makes you look smart
Was thinking of this chapter as well, here's the not-Shakespearean-English version:
1 Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2 So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,
4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
Yes, there is. It's called the New International Version (NIV for short). My church and most other Anglican churches (I think) use it. We also all serve free coffee for some reason (pic related).
And its people like you that make me remember Hosea 9
Or, "The Lord Will Punish Israel"
6 For behold, they are going away from destruction;
but Egypt shall gather them;
Memphis shall bury them.
Nettles shall possess their precious things of silver;
thorns shall be in their tents.
7 The days of punishment have come;
the days of recompense have come;
Israel shall know it.
The prophet is a fool;
the man of the spirit is mad,
because of your great iniquity
and great hatred.
11 Ephraim's glory shall fly away like a bird—
no birth, no pregnancy, no conception!
12Even if they bring up children,
I will bereave them till none is left.
Woe to them
when I depart from them!
13 Ephraim, as I have seen, was like a young palm planted in a meadow;
but Ephraim must lead his children out to slaughter.
14 Give them, O Lord—
what will you give?
Give them a miscarrying womb
and dry breasts.
16 Ephraim is stricken;
their root is dried up;
they shall bear no fruit.
Even though they give birth, I will put their beloved children to death.
The original comment said one particular set of quotes from the Bible were good words to live by. Never was it stated that the Bible should be followed in its fundamentals nor its entirety. It's like quoting your favorite author eventhough you acknowledge that some of his works send questionable messages.
k now lemme learn you a thing or two. The section you quoted is from the old testament, which is before Jesus and is considered more of a history of the faith actually i think the old testament shares a lot of its text with the Jewish "bible" (i don't know the term they use because I'm not highly educated on Judaism) but i could be wrong furthermore Hosea 9 is a story about condemning those who follow him but are very wicked and seeped in sin. Matthew on the other hand is from the new testament which is the life and teachings of Jesus and the effect he had. the chapter he quoted is literally telling people the way they should behave. I'm no theologian but this is just from my general understanding of the bible and simply scanning over the context of the two chapters. so its not following 'part of' gods word, because your part isn't even a part that is to be or even can be "followed". its a story m80.
The entire bible is stories you dense ************
Are you seriously conforming to the christian explanation that the old testament, full of hatred and disgusting **** , isn't followed any more just because they consider them stories now?
It's mentioned numerous times that the old testament is the word of God, and millions of people (including Jews) still believe this
Don't know what kind of ******* explanation you think you just gave me lmao
That's the whole point of Jesus! The whole reason for him coming and dying was to take all that "hatred and disgusting **** " and taking the punishment in our place, he wiped the slate clean and gave people a new way to live. That's the entire basis of the faith. you could argue that the old testament isn't even exactly Christianity because Christianity is based off of Jesus and all that was before he was born.
The old testament is accepted as canon in the Christian faith, but the new testament is the one that defines how Christians should live. As far as the disgusting stuff even then if you actually look at it this is how it usually went.
God:"Don't do the thing"
Humansdoes the thing*
God:"Stop it"
Humansdoesn't stop*
God:"please stop"
Humans:"nope"
Goddelivers punishment*
Well that's what we have logic for. When we see something, and upon thinking about it, even out of context, find something profound and enlightening, it's foolish to dismiss it just because of who happened to combine those words first.
Besides, it wasn't the word of God, it was the word of Matthew. The fact that he wrote them in the name of a perceived guiding entity does not take away from the fact that he was a wise man.
I was discussing Frollo's death in The Huncback of Notre Dame (the Disney version) talking about how the fact that he just randomly stumbles is a really easy way to avoid actually showing God's wrath on screen. The gypsies are pictured as bad guys until the very end, where they're suddenly redeemed for no particular reason. However, Frollo's struggle and the tragedy of the gypsies is thought provoking even despite these things.
I'm not making this comparison because of the religious aspect of Hunchback, but rather the fact that white it displays questionable morals and characters and even portrays them as good while taking easy outs with the really risky stuff, it's still worth looking into, analyzing, and learning from it. Just like every person has questionable morals and opinions of some things, that doesn't mean you shouldn't agree with them where you actually think they're right.
I'm not religious at all, but I think a lot of Christian scripture (heck, even some Muslim scripture) can be applied to real life when interpreted and applied to a more realistic context.
Sure there's parts that can be applied to our modern society, but we've moved on from the ****** stone age tier conditions from 2000 years ago, and most of it shouldn't be applied to us
And the fact that religious people constantly call their holy books the "word of god" and deny that there's disgusting **** in them really grinds my gears, especially when they say you have to interpret it as the complete ******* opposite
One counter "argument" I was given when I brought up the verses in the Quran and Bible on hatred of homosexuals was that "It was written ages ago when people had those beliefs, we don't do that any more". This person also claimed that ISIS are not true Muslims
Which is essentially saying, that the fundamentalist extremists of islam who actually follow the word of God, who actually follow what is written in their holy book, are not TRUE Muslims?
It's absolutely insane, no actual thinking person could possibly believe this
When its the fundamentalists who are the problem, maybe its the fundamentals of the religion that are the problem. I ******* hate the phrase "interpreted", its a cop out to try and erase the evil **** the Quran spews out
Everything should be viewed with a critical eye, which is where I agree with you; some people have been manipulated to the point where they lose the will and/or ability to view these things with any kind of varied perspective. The problem is that given how old these texts are, not looking beyond the written word means you'll be equally close-minded and conservative when acting out those words.
I don't believe you should ever follow something just for the sake of following it, but rather because there is something meaningful to the movement that makes it worth following. For the same reason, I won't disagree with something simply because it's part of religious scripture, because there's bound to be exceptions to everything. And even if the thought-provoking words of wisdom are the exception to the crazy stuff, I find it ignorant to not acknowledge that some positive messages were definitely present.
If you find something meaningful and spiritual behind the words of a holy book and follow it completely different to how its meant to be followed (western muslim culture and modern christianity) how could you possibly consider yourself a true muslim/christian?
Surely you have now created your own denomination?
I have acknowledged thee positive messages, but the majority of the books are not peaceful messages
I'm getting red thumbed no matter what I say so whatever
People are incredibly butthurt for some reason, I'm pretty certain those brainless drones don't even read what I'm saying and just thumb me down because I'm a stoopid atheist hat wearing fat nerd!!!
I agree that following every word of any kind of scripture is ignorant and possibly self-destructive. Heck, the entire folk church of my country (Denmark) has been watered down from the original texts to a point where nobody really disagrees with any of the messages, but rather just the authenticity of the stories.
Also, I think you're overreacting to anonymous negative criticism just a tad.
Here is one of my favorites:
Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV
I know people who had it yesterday and changed it back today already. I kinda think it's a stupid way to support instead of donating to charity. A transparent French flag on your FB profile means nothing.
Bro, all I see is hypocrisy and vanity.
I had family at the "Bataclan" concert who nearly died, and I can assure you I tend to lose my **** when people pretend to be sorry for the victims and supporting my country France on facebook and such. Half how them disrespect the country every single day and make fun of tragedies occuring in other countries but since everyone has to be sorry because of social reasons, they suddenly don't anymore and play very concerned and devastated.
All of those ***** try to get attention, nothing more.
The saddest part is that say actualy think they are sincere...
I'm glad everyone is upset and pissed off about this ******** (as they should be)
BUT One of things that has always bothered me about people,
is that they only seem to care when something happens close to home.
For me, ever since growing up from childhood and learning more and more about the horrors of our modern world I felt as if all of the suffering of the world, all the pain, anguish, was reverberating in my skull. I could see the blood, the betrayal and the pain. I could hear the screams for help.
I've been called a lot of things on this site, from "pretty cool guy" to "complete sociopath" but a lot of people just don't understand. I have, real, human, breathing empathy, and when I look at everything wrong with the world it drives me to want to correct it. When I hear those screams and see that hand reaching for some help I want to be the savior.
But one man can do little, it takes all of us, and that's what has left me more upset than anything.
You have to take some personal responsibility for your brothers and sisters,
For your species! But...
People just dont' give a **** .
Nobody thinks feels the suffering of the world or even thinks about it.
They are utterly and completely absorbed by their own lives.
And when disaster strikes on the home front, they "care" for what?
A few days?
A week?
A month?
And then everything is all the same again.
People say they care,
But nobody really cares
And I find that sadder and more infuriating than anything.
It's the effect of the internet.
Kony fad lasted for about a month.
Charlie Hebdo thing lasted about a week.
Cecil the lion lasted a couple of days (it's still an issue with our species, bite me).
Any tragedy or 'outrage' people will use to say things like 'RIP' or 'Pray for France' but very few actually mean it, most use it as an opportunity for 'good people points' and then forget about it.
There will always be something new to be 'outraged' about, people will leave comments about how terrible it is even though they have no idea what happened or what it's about and then they will forget about it, carrying on in their little bubble like the retarded sheep they are.
Man, I was almost convinced. Then I looked up at the name and realized it's you.
You spend a good chunk of your time doing nothing but flame people, berate and insult those who disagree with you, and reject any idea that is not your own. You're in nearly every comments section on the frontpage flaming SOMEBODY for SOMETHING, and not once have I seen you manage to have a respectful disagreement.
You've got one hell of a weird way of showing this 'empathy' you claim to have.
The world would be a depressing ******** if everyone was constantly praying and weeping over tragedies, because they happen every single day all over the world. It's just that a small fraction (read: the biggest) tragedies get the most media attention.
People slowly forget over time because they DO have their own lives to take care of, and they can't spend 100% of theirs wishing that everyone else gets better. They can rather use their time to go to work, go to school, in order to make the world a better place so hopefully this **** stops happening so often.
I don't really see the logic of how the "terrorists wins" if we give in to the hate? Their power level somehow increases if we fight back? Or is it if innocent Muslims families get caught up in it Allah smites us? It's just nonsense. The message of don't hate all Muslims cause of what some did should be enough by itself.
Also more than a hundred people were just killed on open street a Saturday night in the capital of France. If we stay 'unmoved' by the medias "panic inciting propaganda" will we develop an immunity to bullets or what? Cause this could more or less have happened to anyone in Europe.
The whole reason the people were killed was to generate a response of fear, it's in the name "terrorism". Actually dealing with the instability in the region is the only correct response.
The war isn't just about people. Right now, both sides have more then enough bodies to throw at each other.
The war is about ideas and emotion. And in their case, it's about fear and scare-tactics. They believe they are winning because they are successfully inciting fear and panic in us, and that motivates them to continue their actions.
Put it this way. There's this big thing over there that you believe is a monster coming at you, and you've got a gun with a bunch of ammo. You turn around and fire the gun and the monster screams in pain. What do you do? You fire more bullets.
Now, same situation, but the monster doesn't react at all. It keeps coming towards you as if the bullet did NOTHING. Do you keep firing? No, you turn back around and start running.
THANK YOU..
I've been trying to put words onto how I have been feeling about Facebook and
all that **** after the attack..
It's feels like people go "uhh yay time for me to show that I care, by writing this tiny little thing or change my profile picture. It will make me look like a good person"
I know it's not all that, but I really feel this fakeness over everyone
I did this drawing after the Charlie Hebdo terror attack.
I did that whole profile picture filter on FB because even if no Parisian ever sees it, they'll know that it was something countless people did and knowing that in a time of duress like this one that the hearts and minds of so many go out to you and your people. Well, I'd like to imagine that it's a small comfort. Not much, but something.
That's how I feel about it. On Snapchat there was a Pray For Paris thing going on, and I did see Parisians posting small videos thanking people for support in that way. I know I can't do literally anything to help them, it's up to my county's government to take action and help out. But hopefully the people affected by the attack can take some small comfort in going on Facebook and seeing literally millions of people sending their love over the Internet.
Raising awareness is one of the best and simplest things anyone can do for a problem. Millions of people go on Facebook everyday, way more than the average views any newspaper or news station gets, so it's the perfect outlet to raising awareness of a tragedy.
Sometimes the best thing you can do to help the enemy is to keep quiet and let their unjust acts go unseen.
As an American, what could I possibly do? I know there is no way for me personally to help those affected by this tragedy, it's up to my government to do something. I just feel like it could be some small comfort in people directly affected by it going on Facebook and seeing millions sending their love. If nothing else, it shows that you care. Not saying that if you don't do it, you don't care. It's just something immediately obvious going on Facebook
Showing support is perfectly ok and welcome, raising awareness is just stupid. Everyone is aware it's happening. Showing support is kind and may even raise awareness in the process.
If you are raising awareness, you aren't pretending to do something, you are actually doing something. Sure every person knows bombing is an issue, but I highly doubt everyone knows that there was an issue in France.
I'm sorry your cynical ass is upset about people trendhopping, but let it be if it actually does some good, which raising awareness, as insignificant as it may be, does.
Learn the different between being cynical and telling the truth. Band wagons aren't really doing anything for the actual cause, it's people looking for any reason to pat themselves on the back for doing next to nothing. Raising awareness made sense for things like ALS, no one knew what it was. But things like depression and bombings, everyone is aware of those.
my thoughts on the matter are that a human is an intelligent being people as a group are idiots
keep the media out of war and it becomes more civilized
less panic
less clean up
less blood shed
dead men tell no tales
My brain can't comprehend the ******* fallacy that this is. All those ******* idiots on facebook spewing up this **** . Their stupidity is beyond believe, their hypocrisy can not be put into words.
And no you ******* twats, I'm not talking about the people that did nothing else than just click two buttons to modify their profile picture in order to show empathy to one of the greatest hits on the western civilziation (of which most of you are part of you dickheads), I'm not talking about the very few that are really so stupid that don't know why people do it and just follow the example to fit in, or the other small majority that really thinks like you think they do, that somehow appearing to be empathetic will somehow win you popularity points. Idiots in small amounts are acceptable. BUT ALL OF YOU ******* THAT CLAIMED THAT EVERYONE CHANGING THEIR PROFILE PICTURE ARE ATTENTION WHORES CAN SUCK MY DICK.
I really shouldn't have to explain to you why you are wrong, if I need to explain to you you probably wouldn't want to get it, so I won't even try.
P.S. That ******* meme is used for unpopular opinion, " **** the attention whores' is the most popular opinion on the internet, OP you fag.
I wonder what Jesus would have thought about the pray for Paris thing
Matthew 6:5
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
Those that post on social media saying "My thoughts and prayers are with you" are really saying "I know everyone's concerned about the big tragedy, but don't let it distract you from me. You should still give me attention."