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#15 - dudewitshirt (09/21/2015) [-]
And if you get stumped in the argument it doesn't mean you're an idiot.

Maybe you need to do more research on your stance or maybe the other stance makes more sense and your opponent has just now helped you realize that

We need to realize that just because we were proven wrong doesn't make us an idiot. What makes us an idiot is continuing to fight a battle that you know you've already lost.

Take some time to chew on the facts and decide if you should continue to hold the same view or if you need to more research
User avatar #152 to #15 - skrelt (09/21/2015) [-]
you make more sense than that black guy, here, take a thumb
User avatar #219 to #15 - thegrimpoe (09/21/2015) [-]
thats true but it also means you have an overall weaker arguement and conviction. For example in the debates Trump really had nothing new to add, he just brought up one or two prepared examples. Rand Paul had a straw man arguemnet going but overall he had his partly lines and he knew his position and his defense
#270 to #219 - anon (09/27/2015) [-]
Weaker argument, yes. Weaker conviction, no. You have less information, but that doesn't mean you believe in your position less.
User avatar #272 to #270 - thegrimpoe (09/27/2015) [-]
i meant convincing others that your convictions are right and should be accepted as the right way to solve an issue
#276 to #15 - anonoon (10/05/2015) [-]
God damn. This post eases my jimmies.

I originally hate debating because of fear of looking like an idiot. Considering back in high school, you'd get laughed at no matter what you do; I shouldn't have cared.

Now I'm kind of older, and unwilling to take retarded ******** anymore, it made me more wanting to talk to others and understanding their points of view. The problem with me is; being opinionated without truly understanding what I know.

But thanks for the clarification.
#184 to #15 - LarsGoes (09/21/2015) [-]
i've seen a tedtalk from a guy that said the more arguments he has, the more arguments he "loses", and then explains that argueing is not about getting the other person to believe your standpoint but (for each side) to learn more about the topic and the different views.
#183 to #15 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
We are all so afraid of knowing nothing, we'll pretend to know everything
User avatar #150 to #15 - severepwner ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
I hate it when the person that's right does end up winning the argument, but he's a complete cunt even when you admit you're wrong.
User avatar #57 to #15 - hudis (09/21/2015) [-]
I think that's a lesson sites like funnyjunk could learn a lot from. Maybe then the discussions on this site would actually work reasonably well without constantly escalating into heated conflicts with both sides refusing to back down and eventually resorting to calling each other autistic.
User avatar #112 to #57 - SemiAnon (09/21/2015) [-]
Well if they'd just stop being autistic they'd realize I'm right
#71 to #57 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
I see an equal number of posts either becoming immature arguments or ending with people admitting they were wrong and accepting a new point of view. Part of the reason why i like this site. Also for some reason OP has blocked me.
#125 to #71 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
It's because you bested him in an internet argument once.
User avatar #249 to #125 - jamesisawesome (09/21/2015) [-]
No, OP probably just can't handle red pinkies.
#271 to #57 - anon (09/27/2015) [-]
The thing is, if you hit a wall with your argument you can research and come back to finish the conversation later. Lack of information is not a problem with internet arguments. Calling the other parson a name usually means that the argument is already over. Name calling pretty much just means you can't come up with a real counter, and you loose.
#34 - pebar ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
a university professor was fired for saying basically that

www.thefire.org/cases/marquette-university-faculty-member-facing-loss-of-tenure-for-opinions-on-blog/


y'all have no idea how bad it really is
User avatar #165 to #34 - heartlessrobot (09/21/2015) [-]
So, why not make laws against punishing people for speaking out like that?
#169 to #165 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
it's called the constitution
User avatar #170 to #169 - heartlessrobot (09/21/2015) [-]
The constitution applies to government, not to private businesses and non-government.
#197 to #170 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
the question that prompted the president to say this was what he thought of Ben Carson's proposal to cut off funding to colleges that demonstrate political bias. So if my tax money is going to a college that punishes freedom of speech that's borderline treason.
User avatar #198 to #197 - heartlessrobot (09/21/2015) [-]
Ah. Then I stand corrected, the colleges have no business punishing freedom of speech.
#269 to #198 - anon (09/26/2015) [-]
Dude, I wish I could thumb up your comment twice-it is a rare thing to see someone say "I stand corrected". Cheers.
User avatar #215 to #170 - pebar ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
public universities are government and are bound by the constitution

private universities are bound by contract. If a uni claims to support free speech, and students come under that assumption, and then unis don't honor their claims, then they can be sued for violating their contract.

private universities that don't claim free speech, usually religious colleges, can do whatever they want.
User avatar #224 to #34 - Shiny ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Because universities have some kind of grey area of special legal jurisdiction, which started when they claimed to need "more freedom of association" to kick out the damned reds during the several pathetic scares of the twentieth century.

You reap what you sow!
User avatar #220 to #34 - justinsane (09/21/2015) [-]
hey, a fellow FIRE-ee
#28 - cobrafan (09/21/2015) [-]
I may not agree with some of our President's politics, but damn! He hit the nail right on the head this time!
#11 - misterfail (09/20/2015) [-]
Here we see a tumblrina waiting to get home and complain to the internet that the president of the United States oppressed and triggered her tonight.

Last pic, right side.
User avatar #240 to #11 - brawlerboi (09/21/2015) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZVCbW63lc
OBJECTION!

she does clap
at least a little
User avatar #212 to #11 - elcreepo (09/21/2015) [-]
There's a LOT of white girls in that audience staring daggers at him

I can't tell if it's what he's saying or if it's because he's Obama
#133 to #11 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
Watch the video, she has just "that face". Bitchy resting face it's called I think?
#145 to #133 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
Resting bitch face
User avatar #173 to #145 - hudis (09/21/2015) [-]
Face resting bitch
#252 to #191 - cisdroidcommander (09/21/2015) [-]
nice to see another loyal member of the CIS
#147 to #11 - jackleeswagger (09/21/2015) [-]
Here's another one
User avatar #225 to #147 - sonatadusk (09/21/2015) [-]
It feels like it says " white.gov " to me.


I know it's whitehouse.
#60 - triggerlitch (09/21/2015) [-]
then the title xi diversity administrator came up to the stage a said that any one that was triggered by the president's speech could cry it out with coloring books and cat videos in the safe[ brain washing room ] space
I hate my countries colleges I want and need to go but they likely kick me out if I sneezed in the wrong spot does not help I'm white and not gay sorry truth shrugs
User avatar #3 - cloakndagger ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Huh. I'm agreeing with someone Obama is saying. Time to build an underground bunker to live out the rest of my days in. The world's ending.
User avatar #196 to #3 - emptysuperman (09/21/2015) [-]
Sounds like you're the opposite; a conservative that blocks out liberal dialog. I'm sure there's lots of things Obama says that you would agree with. I'm pretty left and have agreed with somethings that even G. Bush and Trump have done/said.
User avatar #43 to #3 - AnomynousUser ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
He's a decent person. He just fell for the wrong political and economic ideas. Just like Bernie Sanders - seems like a nice enough guy; I'm just not going to support more socialists.

inb4 people assume I'm voting for Trump even though I can't stump him, no matter how hard I try
User avatar #121 to #43 - SylverSlayer (09/21/2015) [-]
idk bro i live in canada and socialism is working out pretty well despite having a complete d-bag of a PM
#167 to #121 - economicfreedom (09/21/2015) [-]
www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Canada has more economic freedom than the US
User avatar #179 to #167 - toensix ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Which proves that socialist policies(NOT socialism!!!) and economic freedom aren't mutually exclusive.
User avatar #267 to #179 - economicfreedom (09/22/2015) [-]
although, there is a thing called "the second fundamental theorem of welfare economics" that does imply that pseudo-socialism is possible from an economic point of view as long as it maintains private property, free trade, and minimal regulations.
User avatar #266 to #179 - economicfreedom (09/22/2015) [-]
not really, it only proves that the US is less economically free than people think

Hong Kong, arguably the closest economy to unrestrained capitalism, is still ranked 1, even though it's been having government problems lately
#260 to #179 - parishailsatan (09/21/2015) [-]
North Korea needs to get it's **** together. Last place by a huge ******* margin to cuba
User avatar #199 to #167 - lean (09/21/2015) [-]
>>#179, Yeah, we have dropped 3 places since 2009. Things like increased use of eminent domain, restrictions on businesses as well as federal spending and quantitative easing devaluing the dollar are contributions. Mr. Obama's Dodd-frank act to "protect the consumer" failed to do so, did not end too big to fail, and placed restrictive burdens on start ups and small banks, inhibiting growth. You know how many banks no longer offer free checking without meeting certain criteria- that is because of this bill. It gave a bunch of oversight to federal regulatory commissions on practices that typically are guided by open market. If that isn't a socialist practice, idk what is. These rules in essence prevent large scale corporations from financial crisis by setting a process by which they asses investment risk and inhibit growth/ start up of smaller companies who have to jump through the same hoops without the financial bankroll.
User avatar #175 to #121 - bigmanfifty (09/21/2015) [-]
M8 Canada is hardly socialist
User avatar #128 to #43 - OsamaBinLadenz (09/21/2015) [-]
What's your reasoning against Sanders' socialism? Not looking to start an argument like some, but I'm just genuinely curious because I haven't really had a chance to ask anyone who wasn't being a douchebag about it.

Personally, I'm against traditional socialism, so when I heard about his platform, I wanted to do some research. I was pretty impressed, actually. Democratic socialism in the U.S. seems like it would be a good change, because democratic socialism is more like Scandnivian countries, and I they are pretty well regarded, so I think if Sanders became president and made those changes, we wouldn't be so much of a laughing stock anymore.

I'd like to hear your input, though. It'd probably better shape my own opinion to hear an opposing one.
#158 to #43 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
"more socialists"

Obama isn't a socialist, ******* . And so far, every socialist country has a higher standard of living than America.

Socialist, not communist, because I'm sick of drooling morons mixing them up. Socialism is Scandinavia. Communism is Stalin.
User avatar #166 to #158 - elenalkarnur ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Obama is a socialist only along race and sex lines. Other than that, he's corporatist as **** .
#274 to #166 - zanybruh (09/27/2015) [-]
what? how is one socialist about race and sex? I'm fairly certain socialism is an economic ideology.

please educate me, I'm confused.
User avatar #275 to #274 - elenalkarnur ONLINE (09/27/2015) [-]
It means he's for government programs and policies that end up transferring wealth from disproportionately white and male taxpayers to disproportionately black/non-white and female tax consumers / welfare recipients / government employees.

For example, the "Obamacare" is not socialist as in across-the-board socialist. It is corporatist because healthcare industry lobbyist defined its terms and had the president sign it. It's corporatist because it uses the government to force citizens to get healthcare whether they want to or not. This is guaranteed and artificial demand for the private healthcare industry's services. It's corporatism.

But it is also socialist along sex lines, because it forbids heath insurance companies from charging different premiums to men and women (but only when the premium would be more for women), even though women for example get expensive procedures such as abortion that men do not get by design. Health insurance, of course, can't do magic and offer that service to women for free. This means that the insurance premium for men will have to be jacked up to cover the costs of what women get (e.g. abortions). IOW, men are being forced to pay for women (who they do not have sex with) and subsidize their promiscuity and extra-marital sex.

Other examples include WIC, Section 8 (I think) housing, all the single mother aids and benefits, taxpayer-funded contraception and abortion, school assistance... All these benefits disproportionately go to women. In fact, they nearly exclusively go to women.
But they are all paid for by taxpayers which are disproportionately male and white.

The net result is whites and males disproportionately put more in to the system, while they disproportionately get less out of it. And blacks/non-whites and women disproportionately put too little in the system while they disproportionately get too much out of the system.

An example of socialism along race lines is when Obama passed laws to have long an unemplyed person can stay on welfare and receive other government benefits. The "reforms" effectively prolonged that period indefinitely. In short, taxpayers, which are disproportionately white, now are forced to pay to welfare recipients, which are disproportionately black, to sit on their asses (and bitch about racism and discrimination against black people).

Previously, unemployment benefits acted as a temporary safety net for a few short months while you looked for another job. It wasn't indefinite and it shouldn't be.
User avatar #228 to #158 - Shiny ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Actually, both of those are socialist. An idea can be properly and improperly implemented; Pinochet was a capitalist, after all, and so was Franco, but these don't have bearing on better capitalist nations.

Communism is the supposed goal of a transitory socialist state, but Stalin pretty much went his own route of industrialized gulag ******** .
User avatar #73 to #43 - failtolawl (09/21/2015) [-]
Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean it's wrong. It sounds like you are being exactly what the president is speaking against.
User avatar #75 to #73 - AnomynousUser ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean there's anything wrong with what I said. Am I not allowed to vote the ways I want to now..? I even said they seem like decent people.
User avatar #76 to #75 - failtolawl (09/21/2015) [-]
"He just fell for the wrong political and economic ideas"
User avatar #99 to #76 - italianfrosttroll (09/21/2015) [-]
He never said the president should shut up or mind his privilege though. Maybe you should go read the content.
User avatar #77 to #76 - AnomynousUser ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Yes. In my view, it was the wrong ideas. Just because you disagree on what's right and wrong doesn't mean it's wrong.
User avatar #107 to #77 - kurtislloydb (09/21/2015) [-]
The way I see it, we all want the same outcome, but we all have different ideas on how to get it. There are some issues that are better handled liberally, while there are others that would be best solved through more conservative methods. Two sides of the same coin, neither side is 100% right or wrong. We just need to find a balance.
#113 to #107 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
If we didn't have the bipartisan liberal/conservative system, and instead had individuals who ran for their own beliefs, not the beliefs that will give them the most votes, we'd be in a better place. Too many people adhere so strongly to their party that they won't accept any avenues of thought that differ.
Personally, I think anyone who has purely conservative, or purely liberal, ideology is a detriment to society.
User avatar #115 to #113 - kurtislloydb (09/21/2015) [-]
Also, most people aren't purely one way or the other, fortunately. It's just an appeal to the masses.
User avatar #114 to #113 - kurtislloydb (09/21/2015) [-]
I agree with you wholeheartedly, unfortunately, dissolving the two-party system right now is a little naive. Our generation or our children's generation might be able to do it, but right now, we have to work with what we got.
#263 to #43 - nosensephenom ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
It would be a shame if we had more socialist-type policies like, I don't know, police or firefighters. That'd be crazy.
User avatar #264 to #263 - AnomynousUser ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
I believe in a government that provides police and fire departments, military, arguably roads, things like the FDA, and that's pretty much it. Very minimalistic.
User avatar #148 to #3 - keatontheghostfox (09/21/2015) [-]
Obama seems to be a great guy but not a good president.
User avatar #189 to #148 - mopeye (09/21/2015) [-]
Don't know why you're getting thumbed down for this. Obama is a pretty good guy. He just wants to help people. Unfortunately he has no idea how to actually do that effectively and has resorted to just printing and handing out money. His intentions are good but his methods suck and to be a good president you have to be good at both.
User avatar #238 to #189 - quoterox ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Funnyjunk in a nutshell, everyone.

Same idea expressed twice, one gets greenies, and the other gets the shunning hand of Reds.

You were right PostingLoudly
User avatar #244 to #189 - greyhoundfd (09/21/2015) [-]
The issue mainly lies in congress. Congress itself is supposed to be the legislating body, but due to campaign finance issues and an overall focus on "What the doners want" versus "What the people want", it's almost impossible to get anything through anymore. The original ACA was ******* fantastic, before it was declawed and defanged by Congress, and openly destroyed by the news media who didn't like it. This is really what has been happening with the presidency for the last two decades or so Incidentally, I originally wrote decade singular, because I thought that that would go back to the mid 90's. It's so hard to believe that it's been 7 years since Bush left office . People wonder why Obama has had to resort to Executive Orders, and it's because the Congress is so ******* corrupt that there is literally no other way to get the legislation wanted and needed by the country into effect.
User avatar #259 to #244 - CupcakeMaster (09/21/2015) [-]
Truth.
User avatar #242 to #148 - postingloudly ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
YOU HIVE MINDED AUTISTS SEE RED AND ATTACK LIKE BULLS I SWEAR, I THUMBED YOU UP BUD
#159 to #3 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
I always said that I'd agree with the President the day pigs **** the Prime Minister of the UK. I'm now agreeing with Obama
#171 to #159 - uberbunk (09/21/2015) [-]
Black Mirror is decent. Like most decent British shows, however... needs more episodes.
#202 to #171 - detroitshanker (09/21/2015) [-]
You may not have heard the most recent news. Davie boii Cambo put his nuts in a pig's mouth Allegedly I'll just say its true anyway, **** the police.
#149 to #3 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
You know the whole PC thing has gotten way out of hand when liberals are turning on it.
User avatar #44 to #3 - synthane (09/21/2015) [-]
I've actually noticed I'm agreeing with quite a bit of the stuff he has been saying and doing the past two or three months. Weird. Maybe it is because the candidates for next president look so terrible.
#48 to #44 - bann (09/21/2015) [-]
He's also out of ***** to give anymore
User avatar #49 to #48 - synthane (09/21/2015) [-]
Yeah, that too.
User avatar #85 to #44 - captainrattrap (09/21/2015) [-]
I dunno, Obama's pretty moderate for a two-party legislator.
User avatar #111 to #44 - SemiAnon (09/21/2015) [-]
He can't run again so there's no reason for him to speak for votes. Which, ironically, means he'll say things that aren't stupid.
User avatar #55 to #3 - hudis (09/21/2015) [-]
There are so, so, so many issues that a president or any leader of a country is responsible for to a greater or lesser extent, man. You're bound to agree with them on something regardless of your ideological differences.
User avatar #59 to #55 - cloakndagger ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
This is true. I guess I'm just so used to not agreeing with him that it surprises me when something he says is agreeable. It had to happen sooner or later.
#4 to #3 - partycats (09/20/2015) [-]
I'll bring the blindfolds and lotion, you know so jerking each other is less gay.
User avatar #6 to #4 - cloakndagger ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
You mean gayer than saying someone instead of something? You know, that bugs me more than it should, considering it will probably take this comment for some people to even notice the mistake right away.
#7 to #6 - partycats (09/20/2015) [-]
Huh, did not notice that at all.
User avatar #19 to #6 - viridiandusk (09/21/2015) [-]
I noticed
User avatar #52 to #19 - cloakndagger ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
I don't believe you.
User avatar #265 to #52 - viridiandusk (09/22/2015) [-]
I'm judging you.
User avatar #268 to #265 - cloakndagger ONLINE (09/23/2015) [-]
Well. Then I'm judging you judging me.
#42 - hoodini (09/21/2015) [-]
**hoodini used "*roll picture*"**
**hoodini rolled image**And now, we can honestly say, Thanks Obama.
User avatar #208 to #42 - hazardpay (09/21/2015) [-]
So you can drink javascript?
#47 to #42 - solarisofcelestia ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Thanks, that's informative.
#16 - ldnelson (09/21/2015) [-]
Remember classical liberalism that was predicated on personal freedoms and individual liberty?
#116 to #16 - satoshimiwa ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
When I was on high school, we were taught that "liberals" were those that wanted economic laissez-faire and to limit the power of the government to influence our daily lives. It's funny how now "liberal" means basically the opposite.
User avatar #122 to #116 - thatguyontheright (09/21/2015) [-]
well that is what Liberalism actually means. Libertarians are supposed to be hardcore Liberals as the root word of Liberal and Libertarian is liberty. Conservatism is dedication to law and control.

So in the US, Conservatives are Liberal, and Liberals are Conservative...all by definition. This may be because both ideals switched parties in the early 20th century. Democrats used to be the conservative party, and Republicans were liberals.

Around prohibition, such things began to change as the GOP began to support Prohibition and the Democratic party opposed it, causing a shift, the liberals who did not support prohibition moved to the democratic party, and the cons who supported it moved to the GOP.


Now a days, it's all the same. The only legit politicians are the independents.
User avatar #192 to #116 - christmouth (09/21/2015) [-]
That's what it actually means, but Americans have changed the definition.
#29 to #16 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
To be fair, the same could be said for Pro-Life (except the same people are pro-death penalty, pro-war, and anti-health care
User avatar #32 to #29 - pebar ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
anti-healthcare?
what does that even mean....

do you imagine these people lobby the government to forcibly prohibit people from accessing healthcare?
User avatar #53 to #32 - renespar ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
only for the non-affluent
#67 to #53 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
affluent being earns more than 30k per year, maybe.
User avatar #124 to #32 - thatguyontheright (09/21/2015) [-]
I've talked to some people who feverently say we need to abolish the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, which says that a hospital must treat someone even if they can't pay.

While this action won't be the government barring the poor from hospitals, it would be the hospitals themselves doing it.
User avatar #188 to #124 - economicfreedom (09/21/2015) [-]
Blocking Access to Birth Control?! ‌‌ - Lee Doren not forcing someone to provide things for you is not the same as forcibly preventing you from having something
User avatar #256 to #188 - thatguyontheright (09/21/2015) [-]
These days, I imagine you'd be forced to bring a tax form, latest check stub, etc before the doctor would see you if EMTaALA was repealed.
#230 to #79 - taniv (09/21/2015) [-]
Reallocate the money that's already being spent. Tweak the current system so Health Care isn't ridiculously expensive because medical costs are disproportionately large in the States due to a number of factors, including poor industry regulation.
User avatar #236 to #230 - containlettersonly (09/21/2015) [-]
The costs aren't high due to not enough regulation
User avatar #239 to #236 - taniv (09/21/2015) [-]
Canada's health care uses the government as the negotiator between consumer and product and uses contracts to regulate the price and quality; our Health Care costs are lower per capita as a result. You should look up our system, it prevents companies from charging outrageous amounts because they have to compete with each other for a region wide contract instead of charging a desperate individual out the ass.
User avatar #178 to #16 - hudis (09/21/2015) [-]
To be fair, I don't think people are gonna keep the planet hospitable by their own initiative. Climate awareness pretty much needs to be enforced by a government.
User avatar #187 to #178 - economicfreedom (09/21/2015) [-]
like communist China, right
arguably the single largest polluter on the planet

don't trust government to be so efficient
User avatar #229 to #187 - taniv (09/21/2015) [-]
"Communist" China also has more lax labour laws and poor regulation of industry, so whose the true capitalist?
User avatar #223 to #187 - failtolawl (09/21/2015) [-]
you say communist china like it doesn't have some of the most economically free places in the world.

So much so that explosions from zero regulation start killing people

well done great example.
#226 to #187 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
It doesn't need to be efficient, it needs to be effective in telling people who are efficient what to do if they don't want to be jailed for harming others.
#62 to #16 - epicactual (09/21/2015) [-]
Thats what I value the most, I just don't call myself a liberal anymore because of the stigma
Thats what I value the most, I just don't call myself a liberal anymore because of the stigma
#100 to #62 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
The stigma that only exists among the basement dwelling faggots of pol and FJ
User avatar #74 to #16 - failtolawl (09/21/2015) [-]
Regulated freedom to promote fairness.
#101 to #74 - brainbug (09/21/2015) [-]
"Regulated freedom" sounds like an oxymoron.
User avatar #105 to #101 - Shadow Guardian (09/21/2015) [-]
It really does, but it depends on the context. Thomas Hobbes was real keen on a big, federalized government because people are too psychotic to trust to rule themselves. He said that the natural state of humanity is absolute, unlimited freedom. Freedom to kill, rape, and destroy without consequence. Life was "nasty, brutish, and short." So human beings created society by sacrificing the freaky parts of freedom for the stability of a government.
User avatar #185 to #105 - economicfreedom (09/21/2015) [-]
for the last hundred years, government has been the most unstable part of the economy

just because anarchy is bad, that doesn't justify the extent that many people want government
User avatar #103 to #101 - failtolawl (09/21/2015) [-]
It does. But the best example is our constitution. As far as International trade goes, the WTO.

Anarchy doesn't really allow freedom to happen, as people can take advantage of others against their will.
#104 to #103 - brainbug (09/21/2015) [-]
True enough, I suppose.
User avatar #186 to #74 - economicfreedom (09/21/2015) [-]
"fairness" is entirely arbitrary
User avatar #68 to #16 - vorarephilia (09/21/2015) [-]
I'm of the despotic party myself. I want total government control over everyone and everything except me.
User avatar #72 to #16 - mrselfdestruct (09/21/2015) [-]
I hate liberals because I want to drink alcohol in peace
I hate conservatives because I want to smoke pot in peace

Therefore, I love Libertarians
#24 to #16 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
Smoking shouldn't be on that list. Unlike every single other thing, there is literally nothing about smoking that could even remotely be considered a positive. Except that it assuages your addiction, which is quite frankly absolutely pathetic. It is harmful to the smoker and everyone around them. You don't get to have freedom of choice when it involves things that can do very real physical harm to others around you who have NOT made that choice.
#261 to #24 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
jawohl mein fuhrer
User avatar #45 to #30 - synthane (09/21/2015) [-]
I'll admit that I hate being "that guy" but the fact that the article you posted came from Forbes means that it is not worth any credit.
#51 to #45 - pebar ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
would you prefer salon?
#54 to #45 - economicfreedom (09/21/2015) [-]
you're retarded...
User avatar #21 - krasnogvardiech (09/21/2015) [-]
It's goddamn embarassing that any group of people need to be told this by their leaders.
#10 - captaingrif (09/20/2015) [-]
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User avatar #8 - madvulcan (09/20/2015) [-]
In the video, the students behind him look really uncomfortable.
User avatar #14 to #8 - needsauceadmisblan (09/21/2015) [-]
they are their highschool-college and they know they will be seen on tv.behind the president.
User avatar #41 - wyrddarcnyzz (09/21/2015) [-]
No matter what you think about his politics, you gotta admit, the guy still gives really good speeches. Fairly sure it's one of the bigger reasons he's in office.
#82 to #41 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
so do you often state the obvious or just this once?
User avatar #102 to #82 - wyrddarcnyzz (09/21/2015) [-]
It tends to make me giggle a bit.
#36 - tck (09/21/2015) [-]
I'm... at a loss for words. Never expected to hear an opinion I agree with from Obama.
#20 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
Even though he heavily helped create this Politically Correct monster over the years. I guess the SJWs finally got to far out there for him and now he doesn't like what he helped make.
#2 - anon (09/20/2015) [-]
Oh wow, this is probably the smartest thing I've ever heard from Obama in his entire 8 years as president.
User avatar #5 - norwegiansnowman (09/20/2015) [-]
mah *****
User avatar #254 to #5 - tarabostes ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
No , he's mine , get your own
User avatar #146 - elenalkarnur ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
Oh so when FJ has been saying the same thing for ages, we're edgelords, ********* and we should "go back to /pol/", but when a black president says it, suddenly all the liberals on here don't have a problem with it.
#232 to #146 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
>Implying FJ isn't full of edgelords and ********* anyway
>Implying that FJ has any sort of power to spread opinions

Half the people outside of FJ who know what it is are TheOatmeal fan whores who hate us because their lord and savior told them to.
User avatar #221 to #146 - gotohemp (09/21/2015) [-]
can't remember any one specifically calling themselves a liberal followed by supporting censorship, or for that matter anybody on funnyjunk supporting that. Don't know where you got that idea from

do ya mean the SJW 'progressives'?, since this falls under them very heavily
User avatar #250 to #146 - jamesisawesome (09/21/2015) [-]
There's a difference between "Hey, you can't censor others" and "SHUT THE **** UP YOU ******* LIBTARD CUCK!!"
User avatar #181 to #146 - thebrownbomber (09/21/2015) [-]
well yeah, we're just a bunch of circlejerkers who give virtual thumbs up to dank may-mays and he's the president
User avatar #180 to #146 - fozzoul ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
They're liberals, were you really expecting something else?
#155 to #146 - burytia (09/21/2015) [-]
well said
well said
#119 - darcabyss ONLINE (09/21/2015) [-]
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**darcabyss rolled image** So, fun story time from a friend of mine.

She goes to a university about half an hour away from where she lives, and is taking psychology classes. For one assignment, the class was required to survey students about how much they knew about mental disorders and the like. Apparently, most students were very interested, but one teacher, another psych teacher no less, got really pissy about the surveys, saying they were offensive and intrusive to other students. Nevermind that this entire survey was done exclusively in the psych building, and if students weren't interested, they were allowed to walk away with no trouble.

Meanwhile, a bunch of random students had posted photos of dead babies and aborted fetuses in hallways, yelling a bunch of pro-life/anti-abortion **** and pestering students. Pretty much all over campus. Ask them to be quiet, and they shriek about freedom of speech.

College isn't what I expected it to be. And random image as thanks for reading this.
#129 to #119 - anon (09/21/2015) [-]
Just rest easy knowing they will fail out and waste all Daddy's money
User avatar #136 to #119 - herecomesjohnny (09/21/2015) [-]
shrieking about freedom of speech is the fjer way anyway
User avatar #163 to #119 - heartlessrobot (09/21/2015) [-]
Tell them anti-abortion is anti-choice and is fascism.
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