Sure, because there's a war in Turkey... or Greece, or Macedonia, or Hungary, or Serbia. Only Germany and Sweden has no war that's why all the refugees are fleeing there.
Remember though, ******* millions are going to the nearest place they can.
And while I'm here, lets point out the fact that of course people are going to try to get the most out of their situation, because I don't know they're ******* human beings?
But no, lets hate them for ******* trying to make the best of a raw deal.
but they're refugees. The countries take them in because it's the right thing to do, and some just want to take advantage of it. Instead of staying somewhere close that's safe, they're going the furthest they ******* can just for some benefits.
Seriously, it'd be nice to help everyone in the world, but not at the expense of our own countries. If bringing in these refugees causes them to increase rape, murder, theft, etc., then to hell with them. Let their own country take care of them. If it can't, then it shouldn't be the US' or Europe's problem.
You inhumane basterd. Refugees are a cost, but citizens pay taxes. Do you not realise what kind of money a country could make off this situation if one only got a solid integration system going? Do you not realise that if we don't help these people, history will look at us in shame? The **** man. Either we help them or they die.
Then let them die. Survival of the fittest. Helping the natives of other countries can only work in a world of infinite resources and a Utopian society with hard-working individuals.
Yeah guys let's put our family at risk sailing to Italy and Greece; killing probably half of our family. Then when we land, keep walking and avoid border patrol on our way to Germany. Also riot when we can't settle where we want to and blame Europe for inaction and discrimination.
No, you're right. I'll live in fear for the rest of my foreseeable future, the fear that fanatic rapists and murderers will storm through our door in the middle of the night and ******** my infant daughter and tear her to pieces, cut of my wifes titties and make me watch
because pssst theres a small chance the ******* boat may sink so staying is worth it
And don't act like Europe isn't treating these people like **** , they have every right to be vocal about it. Half of Europe wants to send them back to that hell. Yes, Europe is struggling a bit, but we have it a million times better than the Syrians. We need to show some ******* humanity and help them. They're real lives for gods sake
Europe isn't treating the refugees like **** . Just because your comment is getting down thumbed, and the comments against refugees in wealthy European countries are getting a lot of up thumbs, doesn't make that the world situation. like I've said before, saying stuff like this in public will get you chastisized BECAUSE everyone is so welcoming to the refugees. It's the politicallly correct way to think.
yeah don't worry about how the media is portraying him (in that they're not portraying him at all), he's really looking like the only option that won't completely **** everything up, so still vote if you can.
In big part it's to do with the fact that she represents the most 'politiciany' of politicians. Her donors are some of the biggest corporations in the country, the biggest banks, she receives donation from Syria where women have little civil liberties and she is supposed to be the figurehead of women's rights. She's hidden things from the country like her email scandal and basically did the equivalent of the Nixon peace-sign-wag-and-leave shindig when asked to explain it (the whole "how do you even wipe a server, like with a cloth? haha").
But I understand that these are big speedbumps that might have been overhyped by media, and that it's a possibility that the information she hid was for the good of the country, but it's just really hard for people -and admittedly me- to trust someone with those qualities.
Sounds fair. I'm gonna look into it. She doesn't seem like the ******** we have in trump, but thats not hard to beat. But even with that in mind she seems kind of terrible. I'll put my hopes in Bernie, even though he's pretty much chanceless.
So, you've f the belief that if you vote for him, it will be a wasted vote? And, by extension, it would be the same to not vote or vote for one of the other candidates?
That's a terrible viewpoint, and one that the 2-party candidates are counting on to avoid getting a 3rd party candidate in the office/in any office.
We have a prime-minister who sort of runs the country, and monarchy doesn't do jack **** .
So most of the time I can't be bothered by the elections because I don't know what a real leader is like
just do what australia does and bash them in the media if you dont like them, it will make someone else take over, believe me it works, ask keven rud, gillard and abbot
Our current president had an approval rating of below 40% for like three months in 2014. The previous president had a rating below 30% for about a month in 2008. Nothing happened. The last president to be at risk of removal was clinton during the lewinsky scandal in 1999. He was acquitted by congress, knowing that he was getting blowwies in the oval office from an intern. (Note: during the impeachment trial not one democrat voted him guilty)
Nothing ever changes. Just bear it out for another 4 years.
Obama had a far more aggressive campaign aimed at low info voters, Romneys campaign was Obama is a good guy but a bad president. Obamas campaign was Romney is literally Adolf Hitler
The president really only has executive power and even then it's limited. The most he can do is send troops now and then he has to explain later why or risk impeachment.
He doesn't write bills, he only can sign them into law. His signature can be vetoed and his vetoes can be overturned.
Literally our president's power is kept so in check that even though all the candidates suck in one form or another, they can only help or try to stop things from ******* up worse, they can't actually do much in terms of ***********
We were ****** for a LONG time to begin with because it's the senators and congressmen who are actually pulling the strings
And nobody pays attention to their elections, despite the fact that it's congress that holds the most legal power in this system.
That's not saying the president affects **** , just that his power is way more limited than everyone who panics over a bad presidency seem to understand.
What we need is someone to grab congress by the balls and make them LISTEN, and then try to persuade them towards things like what Clinton did with improving the economy and **** .
Or they can just continue to sit around and do **** all except mess things up worse, which really isn't different from the last three presidents we've had.
Also, I agree with you too extent. I was the anon. Decided to log in for notifications. However, the president has the huge power of implied powers of Article II. Just had this debate today at college. I mean the president can send us in a downward spiral. Much like Busch did economicry with his big spending on medicare. Things that don't need to be approved.
He still has to explain all the **** he does and if congress doesn't like it, they can impeach him.
He can INFLUENCE **** , but he doesn't really have the power to CAUSE **** .
Even the medicare spending did have to be approved before he was allowed to proceed. Can't just spend a ton of the budget without consulting the proper people.
The president can not. The HOUSE has to start the impeachment then it has to go through senate. Just like president impeachment. President can't impeach a supreme court judge, just elect
President can elect, but if the house doesn't like him because of corruption and scandals and **** , the judge can become impeached, and even be convicted.
If they **** up something to the extent where the public is hollering for blood and there's pretty clear indications that this judge can't do his job properly or morally, the house can remove.
I'm not saying the president doesn't have the power to make things worse. But as far as ******* over the country? The president can't **** the entire country over by himself.
It's congress that is ******* us ultimately. Obama's idea of healthcare at the very start was not a bad concept, yes it could have used some honest debate and a few good changes, but lobbyists and republicans pretty much turned it into a nightmare.
Congress can **** the president over and make him their bitch, as we saw with Obama. And congress can be bought out, so very ******* easily. Same with the House. THAT'S the problem.
It isn't so much Obama's shortcomings of which I am perfectly biased to believe he has very, very many as literally everything he tries to do Congress dicks about with and then ends up changing for the worse.
But no, it's all entirely Obama's fault, because nobody wants to admit that they didn't pay nearly enough attention to their elections and whatnot.
The president's only absolute power is in regards to the executive branch. And while yes, this can ******** up very badly, it also can be held in place by the fact that executive orders have to be explained after the fact.
If trump goes and sends troops to china or mexico without good reason other than "because this country can't take anymore debt/immigrants" congress can impeach him, easily. So he won't.
And only Congress can declare war. The president can send troops all he wants and explain away all the reasons for it, provided they're good. But the President himself cannot even declare war.
He can't write laws, he can only suggest them. He can veto laws, but congress can veto his veto. Even in terms of budget he has to get permission or at least explain his actions. If he doesn't keep on good terms, or at least is not respected by, congress they can make everything he tries to do impossible, with the exception of sending troops places.
It is not therefore the president's entire fault that this country does or does not go to hell. He's a major influencer, but he's not actually the one in control of it all. There is nobody to blame but, literally, the people who elect these schmucks into office.
Well it does slightly matter because if that person who sits in the "big chair" manages to have the leadership attributes so as to tell congress to shut the **** up, stops them from accepting bribes from lobbyists by exposing the corruption and listen, maybe then they could persuade congress to do good things.
Jackson had a prominent means of doing this, usually by saying "if you can't work together than you're all idiots and don't deserve to be here" and shaming them into at least compromising.
Also I wouldn't call them so inactive since they do get **** done, it's just **** that makes everyone hate obama more because it supports the interests of the wealthy and ***** over the poor most of the time
Because if its one thing congress can agree on, it's that money belongs to them.
I honestly don't see that happening with anyone who is elected, except for Bernie Sanders but he is (from what I've heard) a socialist, so it seems unlikely that congress will listen to him at all. I haven't been paying much attention to any of the candidates, but none of them seem like someone I can see eye to eye with so far
Plus I've looked at his points, and he's literally just reiterating the same things all politicians do.
It's his speeches man. It's like each generation of the bush family gets a partial lobotomy and with each generation they increase the size of the grey matter removed...
**** you, I hate all these ******* doomsayers on this site. There are plenty of good candidates if you would pull your head off the internet and listen to what they say. Try listening to the GOP debate tonight, don't just say "oh God no one is good, we are all doomed" without actually listening to them
Really, you have listened to all 16 of the republicans running and all 6 of the democrats and you have thought about all of their arguments separately and all of them are horrible. Really, that is ******** . Stop spreading your negative false snippets of doom and open your eyes
I don't bother looking at everyone. I look at who I know is going to be a forerunner for presidency. I'm not impressed in the slightest. Hillary flip flops every five minutes, Bernie doesn't have a convincing economic argument(it needs more than just taxes), Romney is too disconnected from the middle class/poor to do his job properly and Bush I fear takes after his father. Trump is just Trump.
No candidate is perfect, no doubt in my mind, but I'm not very impressed with this year's presidential candidates.
I'd vote for him, but only because he's got more PR-related spine than most media characters these days.
Other people mutter something under their breath in a leaked sex tape that was recorded 15 years ago, and they're apologizing for it profusely
Trump just publically says " **** mexicans" and firmly stands by it. That I appreciate, even if he is racist.
First off. Even if you were correct, he is still going to be running as an independent.
Second off. If Donald Trumps approval ratings keep rising as they have been since the beginning of these nominations. Then Donald Trump is definitely going to be Republican nomination. I understand that we're still miles off from nominations and that is a big "IF". But "no matter how popular he is" is a drastic overstatement.
He signed an agreement stating he won't run as an independent. If he does, people will view him as untrustworthy and won't vote for him anyways. Also, Trump's doing great at capitalizing on voter satisfaction, sure, but he's a pretty terrible candidate in a lot of ways. Not a bad dude overall, but he has no concrete plans for what he claims he's gonna do. And though he's appealing to a lot of disenfranchised mainstream voters, he's pissing off nearly every minority group for obvious reasons. So I'm pretty sure he'll burn out quickly, especially now that Ben Carson is offering a much more well-reasoned, thought-out alternative for dissatisfied voters.
I know the chances are slim of him becoming president. Even if he does get a nominee, Hilary Clinton is still going to bash him as a womyn hater and get sjws even more riled up and **** . But I'm still saying there's a possibility of him becoming nominee and then becoming president. It could be 1% chance. It could be 50%. But still, it's wrong to count him out of the race just yet. Even now when his approval rating is leading at 30%
"He signed an agreement stating he won't run as an independent."
Doesn't mean much. All he has to say is "Yeah I lied to the RNC, they lie to the American people all the time about shrinking government and reforming entitlements. It's time to show them how it feels to be lied to, and in the process how to win a national election." then proceed to tear up the agreement in front of all of his roaring fans.
No one in the Republican party will vote for Trump as nominee. The people may like him, but the Republicans don't. He doesn't represent the business interests of those who back the republican party specifically because he doesn't need donations. As such, they are gunna vote for someone who does, like Jeb Bush.
Trump may stand as an independent, but an independent actually becoming president is wildly unlikely. Most republican voters that support Trump will still vote republican even if Trump stands independently, because otherwise they risk dividing the republican vote and keeping the democrats in power.
The points you make are not without merit, however keep in mind that the money people in the republican party (who I agree don't like him) are a small minority of the people who vote in the republican primary. They tend to like illegal immigration and such, which is part of the reason they don't like him. The thing is, he doesn't need their money, and he doesn't need their votes to win. That's how he's unique in this race. His immigration police is the one that the majority approves of, not the one the minority with money approve of.
Even so. If he does increase in popularity enough, the republican party will either lose to Hilary Clinton or have to vote Trump as nominee. I mean in their eyes, isn't it better to have a Republican in office than to have a Democrat in office?
I'm not saying that it will definitely happen. I'm saying it's a possibility. There's a certain percentage of chance (greater than 0) of it happening.
No, no, no no. We WANT him to get the nomination. That way, when he goes up against Bernie Sanders, it's an easy win, and our country can stop being **** .
If Donald Trump gets into office, I am moving the **** out of America so I can watch it crumble on the news in whatever other ******* country I move to.
Apparently everyone read my comment, and didn't quite get that I meant that Bernie Sanders would have an easy win. Subtlety isn't funnyjunks strong suit, apparently.
TV outlets do little original reporting. Mostly they talk about stories other people have written. It's up to you to do the research themselves, because nobody wants to be an actual reporter anymore. Now people go into "reporting" or "news" to become minor celebrities.
i dont mind a republican or a conservative candidate, but i don't want trump even for a second, anyone who thinks he is a viable candidate either has a screw loose, is easily emotionally triggered, or is doing it as a joke.
the ideal candidate is one who is willing to work with the other party, regardless of affiliation. (won't ever happen though, both sides equally hate eachother and **** gets torn down and rebuilt as soon as one gets enough power).
I don't know where people get this idea that an ideal candidate is "one who is willing to work with the other party". That's actually NOT the case. Our government was designed with a lot of breaks put in place. We WANT checks and balances. An ideal candidate is one who would say NO to all the stupid ideas that come out of Washington and try to push forward legislation that actually improved things a bit.
The best boss I've ever had I never really appreciated until he was gone. I always liked him as a person, but never understood what he did that was so great. He basically just did what we're already supposed to do, with little variation. When he was gone though, all his underlings were able to push through their stupid ideas about how to change things. The weak manager after him approved all sorts of dumb ideas. Finally I realized that the reason my former boss was so great was because he constantly said no to the idiots below him.
>i dont mind a republican or a conservative candidate, but i don't want trump even for a second, anyone who does not think he is a viable candidate either has a screw loose, is easily emotionally triggered, or is doing it as a joke.
www.nbcnews.com/id/49701718/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/why-percent-americans-wont-vote/#.VflOexHtlBc en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
2015 estimate : 321.605.012
60% Vote: 192.963.007,2
No need to read the sources, didn't read them either. Just picked out the above mentioned statistics (voting people count).
Now i don't agree with Trump either but i would argue that 1 Vote out of 192.963.007(,2) votes isn't really enough to bet your life on. I guess one could go into more detal like argueing about the probability of him getting the majority in your state but overall that is a heavy cost for a ridiculously small probabilty of pay-off.
I wouldn't vote for Trump to save your life either. However I would vote for him because he has the best immigration policies of any of the viable candidates.
It doesn't matter for a second if a candidate is willing to work with the opposing party. Obama started out willing to offer just about any compromise the republicans asked for in order to reform our healthcare system. He even based his reform on a proposal from the Heritage Foundation, the premier Republican policy think tank. And from the day he was elected the Republicans refused, in complete lockstep, to even negotiate with him because they believed that denying him the appearance of bipartisan support would cause the public to turn against him. And to some extent it worked- they succeeded in making the most partisan republican voters hate him. But ultimately their policy of maximal opposition made them look completely unreasonable and they hurt themselves in the public eye, leading to Obama's reelection. And in terms of actually running the government they abandoned their responsibility leading to repeated brinksmanship over the budget, risking US credit rating, shutting down the government, and doing significant damage to the economy while failing to achieve any policy objective.
"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." -Senate (at the time) Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. Not make the country better. Not compromise to move Obama's policies in a more conservative direction, as is the norm for a party acting as the loyal opposition. Just "burn it all down" as long as the democrats are in charge.
Making Obama a one-term president would have made the country better. Obama is one of the worst presidents at compromise in the history of the US. He would constantly make threats to work unilaterally and make an end run around Congress.
If Hillary gets into office I'm guessing we're on the road to being Europe. If Trump gets in we're looking at Idiocracy IRL in a few years. At least we'll be able to have a laugh while ****** burning down.
Well.
The us had a massive part in causing the recession
the US helped to destabilize the middle east, causing the immigration
in this economically linked world its stupid to think that the problems Europe faces are entirely its own fault.
That or we like our system, our system has let us do far more than Europe in the same amount of time. Europe style system doesn't work here for the same reason you can't build a skyscraper beyond a certain height, it would collapse under it's own weight. I wish libcucks would understand that they can try and make their own **** state into Europe but that can't work nationally, name one national program in the US that actually works. The way our system was designed was to create the smallest government ever, it has instead turned into the largest and this seems to escape people.
Our central government was supposed to be small. We're supposed to be the united STATES. That means our state governments act independently. However corporations prevent that.
When states try to ban certain products or corporate actions, corporations sue the states on the basis of federal law. Maine and Colorado could be socialist, but corporations want to only have to corrupt one government.
I still find it amazing when I hear an American say that socialism is extreme and communist. I've lived under socialism, and it's basically just normal life.
Thanks for reminding me how ****** this world is. I like to think there is a future where we can rid ourselves of this ever devouring consumer society, but i don't know if the transition from where we are today will ever be made. Inevitably though the pillars that maintain our way of life as it is will fall sometime in the near future, so guess we just wait and see what happens
My hope for humanity is that we achieve interplanetary colonization. That way, if we **** up one planet there will be other planets to choose from. I think it's possible.
It seems like a cool idea and might work in theory, but i doubt its possible to sustain human life outside our planet. Humans are extremely complex beings and there are so many factors that go towards securing our well being and having stable lives. You might think all you need is oxygen, energy, nutrition, water and solid ground under your feet. That may be enough for a plant or microorganisms, but i doubt it's that simple for humans.
It took billions of years before we evolved into the creatures we are today that are fully compatible with this earth. I imagine it would take a long long time before we could adapt to life outside our home planet.
Im just speculating though, don't have much to back this up. But if you look at astronauts who have spent some time in space, arriving back on earth they have several small illness. Not lifethreatening but not it's definitely not healthy over longer periods of time.
But that's a result of zero gravity conditions and lack of atmosphere. I think lifespans will likely be shorter, but all we need is 20-30 years per person right?
I guess, but that kind of thinking isn't very humanitarian. I agree though, if you had to chose between a short lifespan or extinction the choice becomes obvious.
Trust me with our election your not much better off, i'm terrified were going to be stuck with ******* Trudeau Not saying any of the other candidates are good, just lesser evils If he wins I have no idea what i'm going to do, my backup plan was England but now we have this refugee crisis
**mmfan used "*roll picture*"** **mmfan rolled image**But... multiple parties, a prime minister elected by the cabinet and complete dissolution of said cabinet when a proposed bill is shot down. I went to high school in Vancouver and I just found everything to be...better. I'd move sooner but I'm working on my AA right now.