Need lvl 1. .. This is one of the reasons I prefer how they handled magic in LoTR over Harry Potter. Rowling somehow managed to make magic seem mundane. It's kind of hard to t gandalf LOTR
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#23 - AnonymousDonor (08/07/2014) [-]
thats right you ****

go be a dragon somewhere else
User avatar #42 to #23 - leafonthewind ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
bruh
its a nazgul
dost thou even tolkein
#58 to #42 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Nazguls are the ring wraiths, or the black riders. The "dragons" are called fell beasts, hell-hawks, or nazgul birds, which the nazgul ride. Obviously you dont even tolkein
User avatar #60 to #58 - azraelthemage (08/07/2014) [-]
A better question would by "why did Peter Jackson make them look like Dragons when they clearly aren't".
User avatar #91 to #60 - abeam (08/07/2014) [-]
It was described as a naked beast, with no fur, that looked similar to a bat, with a long neck. The only thing different was in the books they were black, and in the movie they were dark grey...
User avatar #323 to #91 - azraelthemage (08/07/2014) [-]
My problem with it is that they look reptilian when they should be mamalic If that's a word. .
#302 to #60 - ripgeckosncherios (08/07/2014) [-]
There is apparently a book to the video with trivia and **** , and in the movie they are half dragon half giant snake.
In the actually books they are the "king of monsters, created through millenia of breeding" or something similar.

I know this because I KNEW they weren't dragon and amde a bet on it. Yeah **** you Peter Jackson, you made me lose my bet
#279 to #60 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
To me they look more like Wyverns than dragons
User avatar #98 to #60 - kosicandavid (08/07/2014) [-]
They remind me more some giant bats than dragons...
User avatar #339 to #58 - leafonthewind ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
I have shamed myself
User avatar #29 - antzell (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore is just a very powerful wizard. Gandalf on the other hand is one of the most powerful beings in middle-earth, he is forbidden to use all his power while on Middle-earth.
#40 to #29 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore was 'the' most powerful wizard. Arguably the most wisest and cleverest man ever to walk the Earth as well.
User avatar #54 to #40 - Tusura (08/07/2014) [-]
No where in anything Rowling has written that I know of, does it say that Dumbledore was the most powerful wizard.

Dumbledore may have been a great wizard, and extremely powerful; but making a generalized statement that he was THE most powerful is absolutely ludicrous at best.

These are two entirely different realms being compared, and as such, they come with difference.

Some could say that Harry Potter was more powerful than Dumbledore, because he transcended death and defeated Voldemort, which is something Dumbledore was unable to accomplish.

Everything needs a reference.
User avatar #81 to #54 - charagrin (08/07/2014) [-]
Indeed, Merlin was implied along with Flamel as being stronger than Dumbledore in their own ways, but I do not believe any wizard is the "strongest" because they are humans and humans have flaws. There is always a way to get around someones power.
#261 to #81 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
I don't think it was ever implied that either Merlin or Flamel was stronger than he was.

Regardless, Dumbledore was definitely known to be the most powerful wizard of his time, and was well-known as a prodigy since he was a child, and he was at the top of many prominent organizations- Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot, Chairman of the International Confederation of Wizards, people wanted him to be Minister for Magic, he had a First Class Order of Merlin, defeated the greatest Dark Wizard of his time even though Grindelwald had the most powerful wand in existence, and became the arch-nemesis of the other, discovered twelve uses for dragon's blood, and spoke the languages of a lot of other sentient creatures.

Flamel discovered how to become immortal and turn lead into gold and almost nothing is known about Merlin, aside from the fact that he was one of the most powerful wizards of all time. I'd say that he and Dumbledore would be pretty equal.
User avatar #303 to #40 - angelious (08/07/2014) [-]
even if he was gandalf was pretty much a demi god....so yeah gandalf takes the point
#259 to #40 - akselrk (08/07/2014) [-]
Most powerfull? No. Voldemort was stronger than him no doubt. In the 5th there is a figthing seen between Voldi and Dumbledore. Dumbledore had the elderwand and Voldy had already lost horcruxes (Which probably affected him in some way idunno really but it would make sence though). Even though Dumbledore showed his rad skills sometimes Voldy was simply stronger than him.
User avatar #321 to #259 - Mr Unsmiley (08/07/2014) [-]
Nowhere is it stated that Voldemort is more powerful than Dumbledore. In fact, the opposite is true: Voldermort fears Dumbledore, as he's the only one powerful enough to pose a serious threat to him. If Voldemort, who's capable of taking on multiple elite wizards by himself, wants to avoid a duel with Dumbledore, that should tell you something.

Also, in the books, Voldemort isn't remotely affected by the loss of the Horcruxes. He has to go on a journey throughout the latter part of Deathly Hollows to be sure that they're even still there. He's taken by surprise when he finds out that most of his Horcruxes have been destroyed, and he doesn't show any adverse affects until they're almost all gone.
User avatar #298 to #259 - butwhynot (08/07/2014) [-]
Plus if Dumbledore was stronger than Voldemort he would have simply defeated him to begin with.
#8 - thechosentroll (08/06/2014) [-]
This is one of the reasons I prefer how they handled magic in LoTR over Harry Potter. Rowling somehow managed to make magic seem mundane. It's kind of hard to take it as something amazing and incredible, when people are using it to wash their socks and stir their coffee. Meanwhile, Gandalf casts a spell once in a blue moon and everyone in a 10mk radius ***** themselves in excitement.
User avatar #172 to #8 - kyorochan (08/07/2014) [-]
It's hard to regain your mana after using the most difficult magic, while using little magic like washing dishes and other things doesn't take too much.
People from London are just grinding trying to lvl as much as they can, though I don't think they can get higher levels than Dumbledore.
Gandalf is better because he's fighting in wars, whereas Dumbledore died so that Malfoy wouldn't get his hands dirty.
User avatar #254 to #172 - stefanovic (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore probably died to give Snape some extra exp.
User avatar #249 to #8 - Kairyuka (08/07/2014) [-]
Also Gandalf does the whole "magic staff" thing right, wands are ******* pussy staffs
#262 to #8 - arreatface (08/07/2014) [-]
only image related I have
User avatar #304 to #8 - uzzwick (08/07/2014) [-]
that's part of what's so good about harry potter.
User avatar #312 to #8 - greendroid (08/07/2014) [-]
You telling me if you had magic you wouldn't use it to do that **** ?
I do agree however but still
User avatar #70 to #8 - undeadwill (08/07/2014) [-]
Maybe because there are only a few wizards and a sit ton of other classes? Who knows why the wizard class kicks ass.

Also it had to appear mundane because it sucks you into not a world of magic but mystery as a outsider because you understand that magic is their life in this world. If they made it appear wondrous the big stuff would lose its value.
#27 to #8 - booblesboobles (08/07/2014) [-]
Gandalf has also got that demi-god swagger going for him, whereas Dumbledore will always just be a guy who read a lot of books n stuff...
#11 to #8 - anon (08/06/2014) [-]
yeah but that was what i like it about it, to me , the whole point of the harry potter series was to incorporate magic into real life and make it kind of realistic, so it didnt feel too far away for the kids, and even adults reading it.
User avatar #13 to #11 - thechosentroll (08/06/2014) [-]
Yes, but that's why I only bothered reading the first book and didn't even watch the last 5 movies. The first book was about the amazing adventures of a young boy in a world of wizardry. The rest were the usual cliche "Oh, how will I deal with my life AND responsibility? Oh woe is me, being a teenager is hard." **** we've had for decades with a bit of magic and murder thrown in as if they were an afterthought. Then again, that's also the reason the series was so successful - a generation of angsty teenagers grew up reading about a magical angsty teenager going though the same **** they do...................... give or take a murder or two.
#38 to #13 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
You clearly haven't read book 3-7. But that's the secret beauty of Harry Potter right there. The people who are in fact annoying teenagers (ala you) won't ever read past the first two books and get to enjoy it for what it really is, an incredibly dark and elaborate story.

But then again, the point you're trying to make doesn't even pertain to the original argument anyways. That is to say, whether HP or LotR did the whole "magic" thing better. Instead you opted to act like the exact kind of people you were trying to smear. The only difference is that the way you formulated your response makes you out to be some annoying elitist.
User avatar #258 to #38 - awesomanium (08/07/2014) [-]
If you're going to act like you're reasonable and intelligent one, don't make an argument ad hominem.
For me it just makes you seem like an elitist because the rest of the argument just seems like you're trying to say "You're just an annoying teenager and therefore not smart enough to percieve the nuances of this dark and elaborate masterpiece"
#64 to #13 - shiphotel (08/07/2014) [-]
i get the feeling you might have been ************ your way through most of that speech
#244 to #13 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Why criticize something you haven't bothered to read?
Why criticize something you haven't bothered to read?
User avatar #253 to #244 - imofcnotharveydent (08/07/2014) [-]
I don't wanna read mein kampf, the fans have informed me enough
User avatar #156 to #13 - greyhoundfd ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
The fourth and fifth movies do that, and it made them hard to stand, but the sixth and seventh movies were some of the greatest I've ever seen. Magic is definitely handled better in LoTR, but that's because it's a significant part of the plot. It's the instigator in Harry Potter, but that's it.

Bear with me. It's not significant because it can be replaced. The kind of magic that exists in the Lord of the Rings movies is significant because it is capable of doing things that can't be done using anything else in the plot world. 90% of the magic in Harry Potter could be replaced with something else that existed at that time. For example, wizardly magic combat? Most of it can be replaced with firearms or tazers and you would get nearly the same effect.

Meanwhile, in medieval fantasy setting, what are you going to use to replace a fireball or the Balrog? There's no possible way to replace those things without it breaking the immersion of the story. The Lord of the Rings wouldn't have been the same if, when the fellowship is attacked in the forest past Moria, Aragorn pulls out a tommygun and screams "SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND" before blasting away all the Uruk-hai.
#90 - dwarfman (08/07/2014) [-]
Gandalf fought and defeated what is essentially a fallen angel made of fire.
#291 to #90 - datmine (08/07/2014) [-]
So its basicly a bloodthirster.
User avatar #225 to #90 - fuzzyballs (08/07/2014) [-]
didn't he die in the end? it was more of a tie
and then he was brought back, so basically he's a zombie wizard!
User avatar #235 to #225 - greyshirt (08/07/2014) [-]
It's all about getting back up man.
User avatar #282 to #225 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/07/2014) [-]
Gandalf is a Maia which is like a demigod so death isn't really the same thing for him
User avatar #285 to #282 - fuzzyballs (08/07/2014) [-]
I know
I'm just trying to annoy people, guess it didn't work
User avatar #286 to #285 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/07/2014) [-]
yeah it didn't work that well if your going to troll be more obvious and annoying about it like learmy because eve though its obvious as **** your still going to get more reactions
User avatar #290 to #286 - fuzzyballs (08/07/2014) [-]
I don't think you understand how this works
User avatar #292 to #290 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/07/2014) [-]
your wanting to troll right?
#114 to #90 - tehavatar (08/07/2014) [-]
gandalf is essentially a guardian angel made of old man
#241 to #114 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
i would like to know how do you obtain the ingredient old man
User avatar #257 to #241 - TimBisley (08/07/2014) [-]
Ask him nicely.
User avatar #305 to #241 - commontroll (08/07/2014) [-]
Give him viagra and tug away.
#6 - galgawine (08/06/2014) [-]
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#246 - checkemtrain (08/07/2014) [-]
another point,at least gandalf survived his series.

take that tumblre fags
#260 to #246 - akselrk (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore was suppose to die
#319 to #246 - Mr Unsmiley (08/07/2014) [-]
You realize that Gandalf died in the first book, right?
User avatar #327 to #319 - checkemtrain (08/07/2014) [-]
I wouldn't say he died so much as he was sort of reborn
User avatar #331 to #327 - Mr Unsmiley (08/08/2014) [-]
Except that you can't be reborn if you died. True, his essence didn't die, but he as a physical being did.
User avatar #332 to #331 - checkemtrain (08/08/2014) [-]
I guess.But at least He didn't end up like that old fake ass "u'r a wazrd huri"
#333 to #332 - Mr Unsmiley (08/08/2014) [-]
You mean Hagrid?
#334 to #333 - checkemtrain (08/08/2014) [-]
No,im more or less referencing the series.
#335 to #334 - Mr Unsmiley (08/08/2014) [-]
Then that just shows that your bias influences your argument.
#336 to #335 - checkemtrain (08/08/2014) [-]
Maybe,but facts can't be disputed. Gandalf was easily the better wizard,and much cooler because he didn't fight with a panzee wand,he fought with a sword and staff
#56 - justbeinabrony (08/07/2014) [-]
Harry Dresden is best wizard
User avatar #76 to #56 - kingreptar (08/07/2014) [-]
who
#59 to #56 - azraelthemage (08/07/2014) [-]
Dresden Files mentioned. Swell with magic.
User avatar #2 - fezzo (08/06/2014) [-]
Merlin is best wizard
User avatar #9 to #2 - galaxyguy ONLINE (08/06/2014) [-]
***** please, Dumbledore woulda turned the Fell beasts into chintz armchairs.
#278 to #2 - crim (08/07/2014) [-]
hes right you know!
#61 to #2 - BloodyTurds ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_(TV_series)
I actually enjoyed this series, and its whole outlook on magic.
Magic being part of the soul, and its use consuming the essence of the caster...
User avatar #87 to #61 - satansferret (08/07/2014) [-]
You might like the Magister trilogy.
#136 to #87 - BloodyTurds ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
Thanks, ill check that out
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I don't even remember saving this...
I don't even remember saving this...
#269 to #82 - arreatface (08/07/2014) [-]
Always had this one on my folder too, only got to use it one time or two
Always had this one on my folder too, only got to use it one time or two
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#83 to #82 - evictedone (08/07/2014) [-]
Funniest, personally.
Funniest, personally.
#84 to #83 - allcontent (08/07/2014) [-]
Im trying to collect the best reaction folder pics again, mine got deleted long ago.

it was so beautiful..
User avatar #85 to #84 - evictedone (08/07/2014) [-]
Haven't really filled up my reaction bin. I got a new computer recently, and barely take the time to save new or interesting pics. You can imagine the big, white, emptiness that prevails over my computer's files...
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You started something beautiful with this comment
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Best one ive seen all night
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#92 to #82 - pineapplechunkss ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
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#197 to #82 - greyhoundfd ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
I think this one is "butthurt".
I think this one is "butthurt".
#236 to #197 - allcontent (08/07/2014) [-]
lol gross.
#5 - lean (08/06/2014) [-]
Well, Gandalf is both #1 and #2 on dorkly's best wizards ever rating.
Just hear me out- if you put Thoros of Myr in the competition, he is the only person of magic in the fight who successfully brings people back to life. Repeatedly.
User avatar #62 to #5 - mcrut (08/07/2014) [-]
He is a necromancer then and not a wizard, two totally different things
User avatar #125 to #62 - gamagoriira (08/07/2014) [-]
Necromancy is generally a sub-school of wizardry.
User avatar #47 to #5 - hairyforcekin (08/07/2014) [-]
Moqorro's the only one who gives people fists made of lava. I think that's cooler than resurrecting people to a shell of what they once were
User avatar #12 to #5 - IAmManbearpig (08/06/2014) [-]
No, the Red God brings them back, he's just the lucky drunk that says the words.
User avatar #287 to #12 - frozenworld (08/07/2014) [-]
The power is attributed to the god, but it hasn't been revealed if its a type of magic or if there really is a god doing it.
#273 - jeitron (08/07/2014) [-]
It's kinda dumb to compare two characters from a different story's power to each other since the power is scaled differently for each world, and i'll just turn into a fanboy debate anyway but I digress.

Harry Potter's magic fights = Using the wands to shoot balls of light and once in a while have a beam-of-war battle with someone else.

Lotr magic = Gandalf using his magic to nuke a battle field.
#276 to #273 - karvarausku ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
**karvarausku rolled image** Pika pii.
User avatar #284 - reggaemortis (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore may not be an immortal or some **** but I'm pretty sure he'd give Gandalf a decent fight.
Albus Dumbledore's Firestorm (HQ)
User avatar #315 to #284 - fjacctfucku (08/07/2014) [-]
Agreed.

Duel in the Ministry Atrium (Dumbledore Vs. Voldemort)
#21 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
In the Battle for Middle Earth computer RTS game Gandalf was broken as **** . I remember my first match I went with the Witch King as my first hero even though he was one of the pricier ones and the enemy guy rushed Gandalf, not as his first hero, as one of the earliest things total. Each hero had a few skills and Gandalf's Light of Ishtar ONE SHOT the Witch King. No matter what, he one shot the friggin witch king. I was so mad.
#245 - anonymoose (08/07/2014) [-]
MFW a gif I made is uploaded.
MFW a gif I made is uploaded.
#89 - lucaslegacy (08/07/2014) [-]
wtf, r u kidding gandalf is NOTHING compared to dumbledore didnt u watch when he went to the cave with harry he drank WATER from a BOWL
User avatar #243 to #89 - capslockrage (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore>gandalf
#15 - scootabot ONLINE (08/06/2014) [-]
Come at his face and say that.
Come at his face and say that.
User avatar #16 to #15 - ssheinrich (08/07/2014) [-]
source on that gif?
User avatar #17 to #16 - scootabot ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
It's Dumbledore fighting off monsters in Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince.

Sauce
harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Firestorm
#18 to #17 - ssheinrich (08/07/2014) [-]
i knew it seemed familiar, thanks brah  but i still think gandalf would have won a 1v1 against dumbeldore
i knew it seemed familiar, thanks brah but i still think gandalf would have won a 1v1 against dumbeldore
#86 to #15 - riseandfightfj (08/07/2014) [-]
Fire?   
>Gandalf faced Balrog   
>Blarog demon of flame   
>Balrogs fire is hell fire   
>hotter than hell   
>Hellfire hotter than dumbldore's lame wand fire   
#rekt
Fire?
>Gandalf faced Balrog
>Blarog demon of flame
>Balrogs fire is hell fire
>hotter than hell
>Hellfire hotter than dumbldore's lame wand fire
#rekt
#22 to #15 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
k.
k.
#24 to #22 - scootabot ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
Bring it on, 			******		.
Bring it on, ****** .
#25 to #24 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
Call me when you come back to life.
Call me when you come back to life.
#57 to #25 - laseneph ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
Well technically gandalf never actually died... as a Maia he's actually indestructable as he is after all a divine spirit. It's just his veil form can be temporarily 'killed'.   
   
I really like lotr lore   
   
 Also the fact that Gandalf has Narya the ring of fire just adds to his OPness
Well technically gandalf never actually died... as a Maia he's actually indestructable as he is after all a divine spirit. It's just his veil form can be temporarily 'killed'.

I really like lotr lore

Also the fact that Gandalf has Narya the ring of fire just adds to his OPness
#66 to #57 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
HEY EVERYONE, THIS USER'S A HUGE NERD!
#67 to #66 - laseneph ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
oh...
oh...
User avatar #71 to #67 - qwarthos (08/07/2014) [-]
It's okay we love you
#26 to #25 - scootabot ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
I don't need to come back to life. I've trained my underlings correctly.   
   
I did everything I needed to in ONE LIFE.
I don't need to come back to life. I've trained my underlings correctly.

I did everything I needed to in ONE LIFE.
#28 to #26 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
Is that what you tell yourself, does that comfort you ?
Is that what you tell yourself, does that comfort you ?
#30 to #28 - scootabot ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
Oh, breaking out the sarcasm already?   
   
Bravo. Have you already ran out of tricks?
Oh, breaking out the sarcasm already?

Bravo. Have you already ran out of tricks?
#32 to #30 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks you witless fool.
Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks you witless fool.
#34 to #32 - scootabot ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
Lol!
Lol!
#35 to #34 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
I don't recall why we're arguing. Hehe.
I don't recall why we're arguing. Hehe.
#36 to #35 - scootabot ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
We were arguing?   
   
No! We are fellow enthusiasts of the Fantasy Genre!   
   
 (Plus Gandalf kicks some major ass.)
We were arguing?

No! We are fellow enthusiasts of the Fantasy Genre!

(Plus Gandalf kicks some major ass.)
#37 to #36 - venegal (08/07/2014) [-]
Cheers to that!   
   
 Kudos to Dumbledore as well.
Cheers to that!

Kudos to Dumbledore as well.
#31 to #30 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Gandalf's enemy: demons and demi-gods
Dumbledore's enemy: a bad wizard who kills people.

gandalf was fighting against a being who was making a capable attempt at taking over the world. Dumbledore was fighting a man who was essentially a magical klansman

sauron killed more guys with a few swings of his mace than Voldemort killed in the entirety of the books.
#44 to #31 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Voldemort wasn't even human in the books you know? He was essentially a walking abomination in humanoid form, but nothing more. As for his motives, they are pretty much the same thing. Both Voldemort and Sauron wanted to take control. The thing with Sauron though is that his motive is never elaborated upon, while Voldemort's is made pretty evident.

Not that either book series is bad, but I really do detest these sort of conversations where there's a whole bunch of people who try to wring out arguments against books they've clearly have no knowledge of. And to even claim to know anything about LotR you'd have to have read the Silmarillion. Unfinished Tales, and the Hobbit. Which unsurprisingly most people I've met haven't. And honestly I don't blame them, the Silmarillion is probably one of the worst books I've ever had the misfortune of reading purely because of how it was written. I find Shakespeare far more enjoyable a read than the Silmarillion.
User avatar #191 to #44 - greyhoundfd ONLINE (08/07/2014) [-]
According to the Silmarillion, Sauron is implied to be something along the lines of a puppet for Morgoth, who is a power hungry maniacal wizard whose experiments resulted in orcs, Uruk-hai, trolls, and just about all the nasties that Middle-Earth has ever seen. He's also dead, which throws a bit of a wrench into his plans, but Sauron has pretty much taken up the mantle of evil-thing-that-no-one-wants-to-piss-off.

Silmarillion is more of a history book than an actual novel, which is probably why reading it feels like grinding sandpaper against your nether-regions.
#51 to #44 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
why compare it to shakespeare's work? they're pretty different
User avatar #277 to #44 - hammarhead (08/07/2014) [-]
Actually, Sauron's motive is explained clearly in some parts. In the creation of the world, Morgoth added a hint of corruption into the world, because he disagreed with the one, and the others, he wanted it created in his vision alone. Sauron was simply his lacky to get that done.
#33 to #31 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
not to mention that the spell moldy butt was using to be so evil was a spell pretty much everyone could use, they just didn't want to. his only advantage was his willingness to kill people.
#39 to #33 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Clearly you didn't read the story. The only way wizards can use the killing curse to it's fullest extent is if they feel the utmost hatred and malice for their target. Something only the most vile of people would ever feel, and thus, it is only they who can use it to begin with.
#68 to #39 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
you're thinking of the torturing curse. there are no varying degrees of killing someone. either they are dead or not and the books never elaborated on that either way. Something they did elaborate on was that the killing curse delivers a quick painless death. That does not sound like the utmost malice one can inflict on another. Like did you even read the books? You're literally throwing in your own ideas into it.
#289 to #31 - anon (08/07/2014) [-]
Dumbledore was fighting a motherfreaking LICH, dude. A lich with an army of wizards, giants, and physical manifestations of fear at his disposal. Don't sell him short.
#297 - awkwardjew (08/07/2014) [-]
Get on Dresdens level.
User avatar #301 to #297 - asick (08/07/2014) [-]
Dresden files is one of my greatest reads yet, and I still haven't even finished all the books yet.
#325 to #301 - awkwardjew (08/07/2014) [-]
You're in for a treat, every book just gets better and better, what one you on?
User avatar #326 to #325 - asick (08/07/2014) [-]
I read a bit into changes, but then life started happening and I haven't had the time.
#337 to #326 - awkwardjew (08/08/2014) [-]
Thats probably my favourite one, its so good, you'll enjoy it when you get round to it
User avatar #294 - babyanalraper (08/07/2014) [-]
Gandalf is a god (Maia) and Dumbledore is but a man. Besides have different types of magic and thus being hard to compare, you need to consider that Gandalf in Middle Earth is just an avatar without his full power. When he "died" he was sent back with more power. Would Dumbledore defeat Gandalf the Grey? Maybe. Would he defeat the White? Probably no. Would he be able to destory Gandalf in his true form? Never.
User avatar #295 to #294 - iamtheceej (08/07/2014) [-]
The Maiar are more angelic than god-like, but other than that I agree with you
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