Most American Thing I've done today
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bobtombobbob (10/10/2015) [-] but that's a Russian gun!
Look at that front site post and bayonet
Look at that front site post and bayonet
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Einsty (10/11/2015) [-] Do not mistake it with legal citizenship. Nationality bears little actual meaning in practice because muh equality.
It led to a couple of funny moments after the last census. 13k gypsies (actual minority) and 15k Jedi knights (now also a thing apparently). The field "nationality" is completely optional to fill out on the forms.
It led to a couple of funny moments after the last census. 13k gypsies (actual minority) and 15k Jedi knights (now also a thing apparently). The field "nationality" is completely optional to fill out on the forms.
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theattackmaster (10/11/2015) [-] Tell me how we lost that war? Because I seem to remember differently. I remember for all the years America was directly involved in it, we were winning. The North only began to win after America pulled her troops out, and even then, it still took 3 years after we ended combat missions for the North to capture the South.
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EFGsBrother (10/11/2015) [-] Alright, so we went in without a clear objective besides "Stop the Commies" and couldn't stop the commies. Seems like we failed our objective.
Meanwhile the VC's objective was to survive. The south was not happy under the current regime, so by just waiting it out they would win eventually, just like how they beat the French before. They survived, and the government of the south as soon overrun. Seems like they met their objective.
At the end of the day, 58,000 American men died and many more were wounded/MIA for no real gain.
Meanwhile the VC's objective was to survive. The south was not happy under the current regime, so by just waiting it out they would win eventually, just like how they beat the French before. They survived, and the government of the south as soon overrun. Seems like they met their objective.
At the end of the day, 58,000 American men died and many more were wounded/MIA for no real gain.
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theattackmaster (10/11/2015) [-] For the entirety of the time we spent there, we stopped them. People usually think we lost when they think of the Tet Offensive, when in fact, the Tet Offensive was a huge victory for us. It destroyed whatever manpower the VietCong had left, leaving only the North Vietnamese Army to do the fighting. Again, it was only 3 years until after we ended combat missions in Vietnam did the North Finally take it over. But I will agree that 58,000 Americans died for truly no real gain.
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theattackmaster (10/11/2015) [-] Exactly, to stop communism from taking over the world was our goal. You can literally name off all the communist countries left on one hand, I'd say we got the end result we wanted from it.
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theattackmaster (10/11/2015) [-] Please, how did we lose that one? Our goal was to stop communists from taking over Vietnam, and for every single year we fought there, we did it. We almost broke the north, in fact, we did, we even forced them to sign a treaty. And with that, we left, having now won the war. In fact, it was known as VV day (Victory in Vietnam Day) in Washington. South Vietnam would continue to fight what was left of the VietCong. And 2 years after we left, 2 years after we signed the treaty ending the conflict, the north invaded the south. Without the overwhelming American support, they crumbled, years after we left the war. So tell me, If you're playing a sport with friends, and you are beating them the entire time, beating them so badly, you come to an agreement to end the game, so you head home. Hours after you leave, they begin the game again, now outnumbering your town, and win because of it, did you lose? No, because you had already won, they simply began a new game and won that.
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vladi (10/11/2015) [-] Well then if they went back to how they were beore the war, then it wasn't a victory now was it? More like a draw. And it looks like America just gave up after that. That's a loss in my book. If Vietnam was captitalist today, call me wrong all you like and you'd be right.But this time you're just wrong.
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theattackmaster (10/11/2015) [-] "gave up" would be somewhat correct. Politically, we were tired of fighting and dying in some asian country for no real reason, militarily, we were doing better than ever. With a kill death ratio of 10 vietnamese per every one american, we were doing fine. And of the 5 communist nations left, very few can be considered "communist". North Korea is far from it, Cuba will be capitalist in 20 years, Vietnam and China become more and more capitalist by the day, with Vietnam already having adopted multiple forms of capitalism into their society, so yeah, I'd say we still won.
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] pyrrhic victory: a victory obtained through such high casualties that it can't really be called a victory.
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] Most history books call it a defeat, just like how history books call Russia's victory against the Finns in the winter war a defeat.
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] Yeah, but the goal in mind was to take all of Finland, something they Red Army failed to do.
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vladi (10/11/2015) [-] Obejective: don't let Vietnam become communist. Did they meet that objective? No. Jeez how hard is that to understand? If three people were playing baseball and one just left in the middle of the game and the other person beat the remaining person. Who won? Not the guy who gave up, that's for sure.
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] Objective: Stop as many nations as possible from falling to communism. Result: success, only 5 communist nations left on the entire planet. Allied Victory.
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] That's all the conflict was, one smaller battle in a much larger war. It would be like saying because the Americans and British lost the battle of Operation Garden, then they had lost the war. Operation Market Garden was a small battle on the entirety of ww2. And that is exactly what the cold war was. Because, if you knew anything about the cold war, then you would know the entire conflict was divided into many smaller conflicts, Korea (Allied Victory) Vietnam (Vietnamese Tactical Victory, US decisive victory) Cuba (Cuban victory), etc etc
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] If we are going to discuss just the vietnam war, and nothing before and after that, then yes the North won, but that was not the issue at hand. Vietnam was part of a larger conflict, the cold war, and in the grand scheme of things, the victory belongs to the us and her allies, but yes, if we are simply talking about the Northern Vietnamese against the Southern Vietnamese, then yes, they won.
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theattackmaster (10/13/2015) [-] I'll take you thumbing my comment down as a sign or submission, thanks.
#84 to #82
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theattackmaster (10/12/2015) [-] of course, but are you willing to admit Russia's loss in Finland during the winter war?
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AnomynousUser ONLINE (10/11/2015) [-] They may have won the war, but we won the battles.
...wait.
...wait.
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rellergert (10/11/2015) [-] I do believe that's an SKS, sir.
They're similar, but the front sight is open on an AK.
They're similar, but the front sight is open on an AK.
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anonymoussarcasm (10/10/2015) [-] They say without a spring it's known to discharge randomly
